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    drfazl
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    In Sura Jinn, it is evident form many verses there are muslim jinns and kafir jinns, as we see in the mankind. Allah's promise is that He would make hell the abode for the disbelievers among the Jinns and the Mankind.

    Salam

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      Man_of_Faith
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      Peace drfazl, brother.

      The reason is because many so-called "Muslims" are hypocrites, so they are Jinns too. That is a faithless person, i.e. lives in the flesh and has not found the spirit. A kafar is a person who is having perverted ways and is likely to conjecture. Allah dislikes both.

      One is not safe from Hell just because they say they have faith but one has to delete their own identity and live in Allah or they simply cannot pass through the narrow gate of Allah's realm. One must be so humble before Allah and also act humbly across the lands.

      Be LIKE Allah in spirit and you may be assimilated enough to slip through the gate.

      Be safe

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        amin
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        I believe Jinns are viruses and microorganisms that infects us some are not curable until we change our ways to be balanced.

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          Man_of_Faith
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          Well. Indeed one can call being a Jinn is having a virus which continues to contaminate the soul. The only cure is to get a dose of spirituality and to use reasoning.

          Salaam

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            drfazl
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            Peace drfazl, brother.

            The reason is because many so-called "Muslims" are hypocrites, so they are Jinns too. That is a faithless person, i.e. lives in the flesh and has not found the spirit. A kafar is a person who is having perverted ways and is likely to conjecture. Allah dislikes both.

            Brother, Man of Faith

            A hypocrite is one who is full of lies, or an opportunistic liar whom Allah condemns to hell; a 'kafir' is a hypocrite, related from a different angle i.e., one who rejects the truth, and opts for conjectures to gain worldly pleasures and he is bound to be doomed too. Both these categories are one of the other and one leading to the other in a vicious cycle; both these are human characteristics. Allah dislikes both for they are one and the same in the end.

            Allah says the two creations mann and jinn created from two different sources.

            Now who is Jinn?

            salam.

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              Farabi
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              Peace Farabi,

              I accept your point of view on the subject, mine is not the only explanation, but let me ask you,

              1. Are the jinn Invisible?

              God bless you

              peace

              Yeah, he is invisible. Im still confusing about my experience. I think I was once communicate with them, but maybe just my halusination.

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                Man_of_Faith
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                Peace drfazl,

                We have to stop thinking fleshly. Allah speaks of spiritual affinity and not of flesh or concretely. The Jinn spirit indulge in the flesh and you would say that the doctors you propagate against in your thread about "MM" are Jinns. They find that this delusion can avail them when the Rabb controls all energy which is disguised as flesh. Just like the Jinn in the narration about Solomon they can only think as far as their eyes wander, if you understand me?

                I know you think very little fleshly and so more than me on that matter and it is good. You may be a real nafs and naas.

                If we die and are assimilated in Allah while departing, then it is a blessing. Every assimilated person looks forward to the day they die, so better live spiritually and let ourselves die if we contract a disease if this is the Rabb's will than pervert ourselves in the flesh.

                Have you not heard of latest news reports of people who wake up in the grave or when they have declared someone as clinically dead in hospitals and they wake up after their heart has been silent for a long time. These are clear signs from Allah, but people still doubt about Allah, why?

                Have faith

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                  hawk99
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                  Peace Farabi,

                  Im still confusing about my experience. I think I was once communicate with them, but maybe just my halusination.

                  Interesting, what happened, if you decline the opportunity to tell what occurred, I'll understand.

                  Yeah, he is invisible.

                  Agreed

                  Now If you do not mind I will ask you a second question.

                  1. Is the soul invisible?

                  Ok thanks for the clarification hawk99. You have basically understood what a Jinn is. Congratulations.

                  Thank you, praise God

                  I would say a Jinn is a faithless person, one without a spiritual link to the Creator.

                  The Jinn can be believers

                  `Some of us are righteous, and some are less than righteous; we follow various paths.

                  `When we heard the guidance, we believed therein. Anyone who believes in his Lord will
                  never fear any injustice, nor any affliction.

                  `Among us are the submitters, and among us are the compromisers.' " As for those who
                  submitted, they are on the right path.

                  God bless you

                  peace

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                    Man_of_Faith
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                    Good rhetorical question hawk99!

                    Have faith

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                      drfazl
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                      Peace drfazl,

                      The Jinn spirit indulge in the flesh and you would say that the doctors you propagate against in your thread about "MM" are Jinns

                      Brother, Man of Faith

                      Nice to hear that back again from other than me. God bless all.

                      If we die and are assimilated in Allah while departing, then it is a blessing. Every assimilated person looks forward to the day they die, so better live spiritually and let ourselves die if we contract a disease if this is the Rabb's will than pervert ourselves in the flesh.

                      HumdAllah.

                      We have to stop thinking fleshly. Allah speaks of spiritual affinity and not of flesh or concretely.

                      The whole universe is Allah's design in flesh and it will all be over in a flash; and about the flesh - these creations are there as visible to or invisible to man's naked knowledge; mann is placed as the highest manifestations of such creations in flesh, with a fixed life term in the fleshy universal habitat. The philosophies, concepts, ideas, theses and facts and figures are born out of this fleshy brainstorming think-tanks. You are right, we should stop this fleshy thinking. I fully endorse it.

                      The mann, the mind of man must cleave asunder the universal atmosphere and shall enter the space, from where the entire universe is created, to explore the creative powers where only Allah is our Guide, Enricher, Provider. Though the mann is living within this fleshy universe on the earth below the seven firmaments, he is bound to gain his liveliness from the spaciousness of God endowed Creative Powers of the Space, beyond universes. And the other fleshy creation on par with the men is that who is invisible to man's sight, the creation of Jinn. And they too have the brute fleshy powers like the brain of men. Of the two, man has more subtle, yet most powerfully enlivening mind created by God to have their say over the universal nature, if only the mann uses the God given wisdom, his mind, to gain superiority over the brainstorm. Our whole life shall involve in disgracing the fleshy knowledge of the brain, and in enriching the mind to cross the seven heavens to enter the spacious life in space. Our fleshy body shall remain in the world while our minds individually explore the heavens for the splendorous life of its flesh on the earth as a Sign unto the mankind. In this way we shall lead a life of honour and dignity in this world and in the world next with flesh and mind together with mind ever gaining mastery, by the leave of Allah.

                      Have you not heard of latest news reports of people who wake up in the grave or when they have declared someone as clinically dead in hospitals and they wake up after their heart has been silent for a long time. These are clear signs from Allah, but people still doubt about Allah, why?

                      Hospitals are ghost infested grave yard structures. People and patients dread to go there and they are dead alive in it. The ebola scare they spread with such orchestration around the world is dead and gone with the wind already; this is God's grace that the spread of another ghost disease is decimated.

                      salam

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