Is quran really easy to understand?
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A certain levels we have our own level and we cannot get things that pertain to higher levels of spiritual enlightment and wisdom, so there each perosn is limited by his or her own development limitations.
HOWEVER, where it comes to clear questions, clear injontions, the Qur'an is anything but unclear. It is crystal clear. No ambiguity. I doubt there is anything lcearer than the Qur'an. Where people have been unable to absorb the clarity of Qur'an they have come up with their own muddledness, but it is their interpretations which many times runs to phantasy and ridicule, but that is not because the Qur'an would be unclear bit it just does not match people axigences or expectations. Proof 4.34. The meetin og croos purposes where the Qur'an clarity is confronted with peoples expectations of self delusion.
Salaam
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Quran is easy for each one if he individually turns to God for guidance through Quran. Whatever he understands from within himself is from His self and clear in vision. Quran is intuitive and purely subjective to one's own self; and it does not fit to common understanding. When Quran is brought on to a common platform it is only to exchange one's guided experience through his own comprehension. Thus except the applied Quran, the translations and interpretations are out of context and idle talks.
Turn away from 'self-styled muslim' identity, turn away from the mosques and the clergies and become a human being, then there is Allah to teach each of us individually, the easiest guidance through Quran. If we do not call ourselves as muslims, Allah will make us live and die as Muslims.
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The core guidelines, e.g. be honest/charitable etc are simple to understand by anyone and are rarely, if ever, debated. Apply the core stuff, then continue to study etc, and apply as you learn.
No point in trying to run if one cant walk. Development is a gradual process.
Please bear in mind 37
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The core guidelines, e.g. be honest/charitable etc are simple to understand by anyone and are rarely, if ever, debated. Apply the core stuff, then continue to study etc, and apply as you learn.
No point in trying to run if one cant walk. Development is a gradual process.
Please bear in mind 37
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Salam Wakas.
I support this understanding. It also appeared to me that the generic topics that concern everyone (e.g. honesty, charity, mercy, respect for others etc.) are covered with verses which are easy to understand and use simple metaphors (if any). On the otherhand matters relating to finer theological argument (matters relating to afterlife, nature of God and the soul, prophecies etc.) or matters that the leaders of the community are primary owners (e.g. war related topics, intestate inheritence, punishment for crimes etc.) have been covered with more sophesticated metaphors, and indirect arguments. As long as the intension is honest (to seek guidance) - the Qur'an is easy to understand according to every reader's individual appetite.
May Allah guide us all to the straight route.
Regards,
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Harmony be with you,
The Quran is perfectly understandable.
Is it?
95 So when the restricted months have passed, then you may kill the polytheists wherever you find them, and take them, and surround them, and stand against them at every point. If they repent, and they hold the contact prayer, and they contribute towards purification, then you shall leave them alone. God is Forgiving, Merciful.
912 And if they break their oaths after making their pledge, and they challenge the authority of your system; then you may kill the leaders of rejection. Their oaths are nothing to them, perhaps they will then cease.
The traditional and commonly accepted translations also advocate beating of wives, polygamy, misogyny, cutting of hands etc etc.
So is it "perfectly understandable"?
This is an objective property/quality of the Quran. It contains verses coming from an intelligence (God) that is infinitely superior to man. It contains no contradiction, no error nor falsehood.
That is not entirely true. The one who assimilates that of God this person is as superior as it. Qur'an contains no error or falsehood because it is written by a person who was of affinity with God and assimilated in the realm. That does not mean that another text written does have to contain errors, falsehood or contradiction.
And another text can convey the same knowledge as Qur'an does, in another literary sense. It is the literary sense Qur'an says it is inimitable. A prophet who came, a man like Jesus, could convey information just the same as Qur'an conveys, and the man said "My words are not my own but of the one who sent me".
Does this mean every man/woman can understand the Qurans true message? No. We are perfectly capable of misunderstanding anything even the simplest of texts or even sentences. This is a property/quality of human reasoning and language. Not of Quran.
Seconded.
The disputes about its meaning are a product of human shortcomings and limitations. They are fabrications of our limited minds.
Yes. Basically it is the (derived) conjecture that humans are disputing about.
If you are looking for truth, it's always there to be found in Quran. Don't listen to others, we don't know what their agendas or misunderstandings are.
This is not always applicable. To be able to comprehend Qur'an we need to be able to read it. If we listen to translations or interpret it using man-made interpretation of words then we do listen to others even if some may argue this means not listening to others. The truth is in Qur'an, but you need to be able to interpret it first.
I would even dare to say the Quran is this intelligent in design, the perfect clear verses can be interpreted as proof of the contrary of its true meaning if your heart is not opened by Gods will. This is not by mistake. It's designed to catalyze the believer from the disbeliever even during the process of reading it.
Well most people have even derived a completely different faith system from the text so I tend to second that.
Have faith
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Harmony be with you,
Is it?
95 So when the restricted months have passed, then you may kill the polytheists wherever you find them, and take them, and surround them, and stand against them at every point. If they repent, and they hold the contact prayer, and they contribute towards purification, then you shall leave them alone. God is Forgiving, Merciful.
912 And if they break their oaths after making their pledge, and they challenge the authority of your system; then you may kill the leaders of rejection. Their oaths are nothing to them, perhaps they will then cease.
The traditional and commonly accepted translations also advocate beating of wives, polygamy, misogyny, cutting of hands etc etc.
So is it "perfectly understandable"?
That is not entirely true. The one who assimilates that of God this person is as superior as it. Qur'an contains no error or falsehood because it is written by a person who was of affinity with God and assimilated in the realm. That does not mean that another text written does have to contain errors, falsehood or contradiction.
And another text can convey the same knowledge as Qur'an does, in another literary sense. It is the literary sense Qur'an says it is inimitable. A prophet who came, a man like Jesus, could convey information just the same as Qur'an conveys, and the man said "My words are not my own but of the one who sent me".
Seconded.
Yes. Basically it is the (derived) conjecture that humans are disputing about.
This is not always applicable. To be able to comprehend Qur'an we need to be able to read it. If we listen to translations or interpret it using man-made interpretation of words then we do listen to others even if some may argue this means not listening to others. The truth is in Qur'an, but you need to be able to interpret it first.
Well most people have even derived a completely different faith system from the text so I tend to second that.
Have faith
Brother, you know the people who created these interpretations. I feel it was intentional. brickwall And yes, how many Sunnis and Shias truly read Quran without commentary from hadith books?
Only Quran only Muslims want to understand Quran without being plugged to matrix.
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Hi everyone, This has been bothering me a while. As I see it there are various interpretations and understanding of the quran. From translations to the true locations and everything in between there seems to be different opinion. Even for those who seek the truth the confusion is only growing. If quran was made easy to understand why is this so? What is the essence of the message? Why is that instead of uniting quran creates more division ? What truly was the purpose of such a venture?
Peace Shogunsami,
Is the Quran easy to understand? Is a physics book easy to understand? Is a biology book easy to understand?
It depends on the one reading the Quran that will determine if it is easy or not!God bless you
peace
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Is it?
95 So when the restricted months have passed, then you may kill the polytheists wherever you find them, and take them, and surround them, and stand against them at every point. If they repent, and they hold the contact prayer, and they contribute towards purification, then you shall leave them alone. God is Forgiving, Merciful.
912 And if they break their oaths after making their pledge, and they challenge the authority of your system; then you may kill the leaders of rejection. Their oaths are nothing to them, perhaps they will then cease.
The traditional and commonly accepted translations also advocate beating of wives, polygamy, misogyny, cutting of hands etc etc.
So is it "perfectly understandable"?
It is perfectly understandable. You don't have to take my word for it. This is what Quran says about itself. I don't see what point you are trying to make by citing distorted meanings. Those aren't Quranic citations. They are corrupted translations ripped out of context. It's perfectly fine to admit we don't always understand Quran but Quran is perfectly understandable. Do you see how those two things next to eachother are not contradicting?
That is not entirely true. The one who assimilates that of God this person is as superior as it. Qur'an contains no error or falsehood because it is written by a person who was of affinity with God and assimilated in the realm. That does not mean that another text written does have to contain errors, falsehood or contradiction.
Well in my opinion any human book contains error, falsehood or contradiction. Feel free to think differently. But I think you are overestimating human capabilities to deal with objective truths. We discriminate subjectively by nature - it's how perception works.
And another text can convey the same knowledge as Qur'an does, in another literary sense. It is the literary sense Qur'an says it is inimitable. A prophet who came, a man like Jesus, could convey information just the same as Qur'an conveys, and the man said "My words are not my own but of the one who sent me".
It can't. If you think it can please bring your proof. It's a void statement Jesus would have been able to do the same if God chose to do so. Fact is God didn't chose to do so and all we have is this Quran. So what non-existing book are you talking about that can match Quran?
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Hi everyone, This has been bothering me a while. As I see it there are various interpretations and understanding of the quran. From translations to the true locations and everything in between there seems to be different opinion. Even for those who seek the truth the confusion is only growing. If quran was made easy to understand why is this so? What is the essence of the message? Why is that instead of uniting quran creates more division ? What truly was the purpose of such a venture?
It depends..
It's easy to understand by it's intended audiences..It will be hard for a chinese (for example) to read the Quran, first it's not in their tongue or script, second they don't recognize the characters being mentioned in the book (Which are mostly Jewish), third they're not aware of any cultural context or nuances on the story being told in the book.
The next question will be Does a chinese really need to understand or even be aware of a book named Quran?
The answer is NOSo what's really the "Essence of the Message"?
I left you to ponder on that question... -
It depends..
It's easy to understand by it's intended audiences..It will be hard for a chinese (for example) to read the Quran, first it's not in their tongue or script, second they don't recognize the characters being mentioned in the book (Which are mostly Jewish), third they're not aware of any cultural context or nuances on the story being told in the book.
The next question will be Does a chinese really need to understand or even be aware of a book named Quran?
The answer is NOSo what's really the "Essence of the Message"?
I left you to ponder on that question...That question is very easy to answer. It is a reminder. We humans tend to return to our bad habits and forget about God.
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Don't we all?
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Don't we all?
Not all.. only some... that's why there's an 'intended audiences' of the book..
As when the reminder is being ignored there will be consequences...
Electrical company will sent out a reminder to pay the bills only to those who do not pay the bills..
For good subscribers who always pay the bill in time, they shall not received any reminder.
The reminder is being written as such that it will be easily understood..... by those who forgot to pay their bills.
If the reminder is being ignored, then they will stop receiving the electricity as a consequences..
And such consequences is also being written out within the reminder.... using words that can be easily understood.... by it's intended audience.. -
In my opinion the perfect human being doesn't exist. We all have our sins and shortcomings. Therefor the audience includes each and everyone of us. What an electrical company expects of you is you to pay in time. God expects a lot more from us. I don't know anyone, including myself that never sinned in his or her life against one of those standards set out by Gods decree.
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It is perfectly understandable. You don't have to take my word for it. This is what Quran says about itself. I don't see what point you are trying to make by citing distorted meanings. Those aren't Quranic citations. They are corrupted translations ripped out of context. It's perfectly fine to admit we don't always understand Quran but Quran is perfectly understandable. Do you see how those two things next to eachother are not contradicting?
Well. In ways I tend to agree with you, but only if you read it the way it was intended to be read. Then it is easily understandable.
You are right. I was citing distorted meanings, but it is also testament to how easy it is for certain people to not understand it. The original Arabic is perfectly understandable, unless you follow pretenders who turned interpretation chaotic. If 99.9% of translations are inaccurate and gravely misrepresenting the message, then I do not call it perfectly understandable, if you get my point. The Qur'anic Arabic needs cleansing, if you comprehend what I mean, like washing the surface of a dirty stone tablet with an inscription on it, which is is barely readable.
Well in my opinion any human book contains error, falsehood or contradiction. Feel free to think differently. But I think you are overestimating human capabilities to deal with objective truths. We discriminate subjectively by nature - it's how perception works.
It is all depending on the author, his/her spiritual ascension and how honest this person is, and how careful this person is. A reviewed text does not need to contain error or contradiction, nor falsehood. And it was a person who wrote Qur'an once upon a time and not God, a prophet who prophesied and not God, even if this person stood in contact with his Sustainer.
But this is not really the point, it is the literary style which is supposed to be inimitable. The inimitable statement is quite implicit, you need to know why states that.
It can't. If you think it can please bring your proof. It's a void statement Jesus would have been able to do the same if God chose to do so. Fact is God didn't chose to do so and all we have is this Quran. So what non-existing book are you talking about that can match Quran?
You do not understand the concept of God. Jesus said that he was in the Father and the Father was in him. A person who is assimilated and enlightened by God is expressing knowledge as if it could have been the same level of wisdom as God. Jesus expressions in the Biblical Gospels can match the wisdom of Qur'an, simply because the wisdom comes from the same well.
An error that you recite is that you choose to pick 'ketaab' as a physical book and hence cause Qur'an to be thereby, but that word refers to knowledge.
And Qur'an is not all that we have; we have abstract knowledge and a possibility to get assimilated into the spiritual realm. Qur'an is a guiding source, but it is not the only way as long as you emulate the same kind of spiritual insight, and a person who has gained the knowledge and wisdom of the Lord can show that on an equal level. A person who knows the 'Commandments', or as I call them 'Guidelines', of nearly 4000 years ago have with a spiritual ascension the same possibility as the man who has Qur'an, because they point in the same direction both of them.
And if the man with Qur'an trusts people, who have claimed to have insight in the interpretation of Qur'an, it cannot help him at all. Most people know about the list of guidelines, and Jesus elaborated upon them and as one of authority, and showed the spiritual nature of those lines. There is immense wisdom to be held without ever in your life opening Qur'an.
So what non-existing book are you talking about that can match Quran?
I talk about that book which may be in your head.
In my opinion the perfect human being doesn't exist. We all have our sins and shortcomings. Therefor the audience includes each and everyone of us. What an electrical company expects of you is you to pay in time. God expects a lot more from us. I don't know anyone, including myself that never sinned in his or her life against one of those standards set out by Gods decree.
It all depends on how much you indulge in the flesh/your beast. You could theoretically be a very good person if you became fully assimilated in the spiritual realm. But verily, God, the foundation, is the only perfect entity.
Usually the struggle is to keep sinning at minimum. One of the more difficult guidelines is the one about lying, because it can be tempting to lie instead of having a complicated discussion. It is possible to avoid getting in the situation in the first place though that creates the situation where you feel inclined towards lying.
Have faith
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Well. In ways I tend to agree with you, but only if you read it the way it was intended to be read. Then it is easily understandable.
You are right. I was citing distorted meanings, but it is also testament to how easy it is for certain people to not understand it. The original Arabic is perfectly understandable, unless you follow pretenders who turned interpretation chaotic. If 99.9% of translations are inaccurate and gravely misrepresenting the message, then I do not call it perfectly understandable, if you get my point. The Qur'anic Arabic needs cleansing, if you comprehend what I mean, like washing the surface of a dirty stone tablet with an inscription on it, which is is barely readable.
Beside the point Quran is still perfectly understandable. You are only proving people are capable of misunderstanding.
It is all depending on the author, his/her spiritual ascension and how honest this person is, and how careful this person is. A reviewed text does not need to contain error or contradiction, nor falsehood. And it was a person who wrote Qur'an once upon a time and not God, a prophet who prophesied and not God, even if this person stood in contact with his Sustainer.
Who wrote Quran is irrelevant. The author is God. There is not one line in Quran that comes from the prophet Muhammads mind.
But this is not really the point, it is the literary style which is supposed to be inimitable. The inimitable statement is quite implicit, you need to know why states that.
You are completely misunderstanding the challenge. It is not talking about literary quality at all.
You do not understand the concept of God. Jesus said that he was in the Father and the Father was in him. A person who is assimilated and enlightened by God is expressing knowledge as if it could have been the same level of wisdom as God. Jesus expressions in the Biblical Gospels can match the wisdom of Qur'an, simply because the wisdom comes from the same well.
How much you feel I understand God or not is irrelevant for me but I do find the statement rather offensive. Fact remains Jesus did not produce a scripture that is still intact today like Quran is. So what you are saying is nothing but speculation and hypothesis.
An error that you recite is that you choose to pick 'ketaab' as a physical book and hence cause Qur'an to be thereby, but that word refers to knowledge.
Please dont put words into my mouth. I know better how I define 'ketaab' and its not only a physical book. But 'ketaab' still corresponds with the Quran in book format we have today. Maybe you are misunderstanding, it's irrelevant if you consider it being a physical book or not. They are identical.
And Qur'an is not all that we have; we have abstract knowledge and a possibility to get assimilated into the spiritual realm. Qur'an is a guiding source, but it is not the only way as long as you emulate the same kind of spiritual insight, and a person who has gained the knowledge and wisdom of the Lord can show that on an equal level. A person who knows the 'Commandments', or as I call them 'Guidelines', of nearly 4000 years ago have with a spiritual ascension the same possibility as the man who has Qur'an, because they point in the same direction both of them.
Sure Quran is not the only source. But it's the best reminder we have available to us.
It all depends on how much you indulge in the flesh/your beast. You could theoretically be a very good person if you became fully assimilated in the spiritual realm. But verily, God, the foundation, is the only perfect entity.
Usually the struggle is to keep sinning at minimum. One of the more difficult guidelines is the one about lying, because it can be tempting to lie instead of having a complicated discussion. It is possible to avoid getting in the situation in the first place though that creates the situation where you feel inclined towards lying.
Well that's all nice and well but fact is, ever since Quran was revealed not one such person has risen up and produced a similar Quran.
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Harmony be upon you, running
Beside the point Quran is still perfectly understandable. You are only proving people are capable of misunderstanding.
So be it. But it does not matter how "perfectly understandable" it is in case no one is able to not misunderstand it.
Who wrote Quran is irrelevant. The author is God. There is not one line in Quran that comes from the prophet Muhammads mind.
It may not have come from the prophet's mind that way, but it came through the use of his finger which finger is controlled by the central nervous system which reacts upon impulses from the brain, so the prophet's mind was still involved. He was assimilated with God.
You are completely misunderstanding the challenge. It is not talking about literary quality at all.
It says, in traditional interpretation, that they should provide a surateh like that. What other than literary quality can it boast? You can provide the same information and knowledge through taking up a pen yourself in case you possess the knowledge and wisdom required to do the job.
How much you feel I understand God or not is irrelevant for me but I do find the statement rather offensive. Fact remains Jesus did not produce a scripture that is still intact today like Quran is. So what you are saying is nothing but speculation and hypothesis.
I am sorry if you took it as offensive when I was frank. Jesus' mission was not to write a scripture. He was there to provide knowledge and insight. His conveyed knowledge and wisdom is quite well relayed by the Biblical Gospels written by his disciples despite linguistic interpretation errors or errors of scribes.
Qur'an does not hold 100% integrity either, even if basically every letter is in its right order. Verse numbering is poor and there are versions of Qur'an which contain scribal errors, plus some person took the liberty of adding diacritical marks (despite that one can easily pronounce and understand it without them). Apart from that it is intact, yes.
No matter literary quality, no interpreted text becomes more understandable than its interpreter.
Besides I think you fight the wrong man, I am an interpreter of Qur'an and profess that it is written by a prophet who was assimilated with God in the realm. I want the truth and not a lot of declarations that Qur'an is this or that. It is a source of guidance and can you have it help you towards that aim then it has fulfilled its use to you. Then you have absorbed its knowledge and hopefully understand. But as Qur'an looks now does not even half-way give the right representation of the truth, and I constantly highlight inconsistency in interpretation.
Please dont put words into my mouth. I know better how I define 'ketaab' and its not only a physical book. But 'ketaab' still corresponds with the Quran in book format we have today. Maybe you are misunderstanding, it's irrelevant if you consider it being a physical book or not. They are identical.
Ketaab does not equal to Qur'an; it equals to abstract knowledge. Qur'an may or may not bring you knowledge, depending on your interpretation skill, but it is not the only source of knowledge. And Qur'an does speak in a way that you can clearly see that Al-Qur'an was something which was already present with people even before the advent of Qur'an. In fact Al-Qur'an does not mean anything other than knowledge of some kind as in insight. You can form that knowledge using customized words in a written or non-written discourse when you possess the knowledge. The quality of this discourse depends on how well you assimilated the knowledge to begin with. And abstract data needs an abstract mind, so the message of the knowledge of God needs a spiritually attuned mind.
Take these example, while retaining the erroneous regard of ketaab as book.
253 And We gave Moses the Book and the criterion, perhaps you would be guided.
287 And We gave Moses the Book, and after him We sent the messengers. And We gave Jesus, son of Mary, the clear proofs, and We supported him with the Holy Spirit. Is it that every time a messenger comes to you with what your souls do not desire, you become arrogant? A group of them you deny, and a group of them you kill!
345 And the angels said ?O Mary, God gives you glad tidings of a word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary. Honorable in this world and in the Hereafter, and from among those who are made close.?
346 ?And he will speak to the people from the cradle and to middle-age, and is from among the upright.?
347 She said ?My Lord, how can I have a son when no human being has been with me?? He said ?It is thus that God creates what He wills, when He decrees a command, He merely says to it ?Be,? and it is.?
348 And He teaches him the Book and the Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel.So do you claim that ketaab equals to Qur'an? Was that even revealed during the time of Moses or Jesus?
Not only does it yield inconsistency to your claims but it also gives justification for a man to follow Jesus' teachings without any problem since he conveyed the Book, as you claim. Or I could follow Moses, if I follow the Book he received.
Now I know better and I know ketab refers to knowledge. This is because constantly throughout Qua
Sure Quran is not the only source. But it's the best reminder we have available to us.
There is a lot of interpretation work remaining until it would become the "best reminder".
Well that's all nice and well but fact is, ever since Quran was revealed not one such person has risen up and produced a similar Quran.
Well such person produced Qur'an. And such person could produce another one.
Have faith
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Harmony be upon you, running
So be it. But it does not matter how "perfectly understandable" it is in case no one is able to not misunderstand it.
You seem unable to distinct these two things. Quran is understandable. People misunderstand. People misunderstand Quran. Quran is still understandable. It only takes one correct understanding to prove that, rendering all the misunderstandings as traits of people, not of Quran.
It may not have come from the prophet's mind that way, but it came through the use of his finger which finger is controlled by the central nervous system which reacts upon impulses from the brain, so the prophet's mind was still involved. He was assimilated with God.
That's a highly controversial opinion if you ask me. It contradicts where Quran tells us if the prophet would have changed one letter to it, God would instantly kill him. This means he still had control over his own fingers. The only thing that occurred was he recited Gods words. There is no proof of further assimilation. The idea you are propagating gives fuel for those who want to divine the prophet. To me that is setting up partners to God, equal to how some christians have done and are doing.
It says, in traditional interpretation, that they should provide a surateh like that. What other than literary quality can it boast? You can provide the same information and knowledge through taking up a pen yourself in case you possess the knowledge and wisdom required to do the job.
Other qualities universal truth, power to convince at least two witnesses, non-contradiction to name a few. If you think you can produce a surah like that verbally, while reciting with no previous study then please do so and try to convince two witnesses. You don't understand that challenge is not a written one. It's challenging them to recite like prophet muhammad recited Quran.
I am sorry if you took it as offensive when I was frank. Jesus' mission was not to write a scripture. He was there to provide knowledge and insight. His conveyed knowledge and wisdom is quite well relayed by the Biblical Gospels written by his disciples despite linguistic interpretation errors or errors of scribes.
They are highly suspect.
Qur'an does not hold 100% integrity either, even if basically every letter is in its right order. Verse numbering is poor and there are versions of Qur'an which contain scribal errors, plus some person took the liberty of adding diacritical marks (despite that one can easily pronounce and understand it without them). Apart from that it is intact, yes.
No matter literary quality, no interpreted text becomes more understandable than its interpreter.
Besides I think you fight the wrong man, I am an interpreter of Qur'an and profess that it is written by a prophet who was assimilated with God in the realm. I want the truth and not a lot of declarations that Qur'an is this or that. It is a source of guidance and can you have it help you towards that aim then it has fulfilled its use to you. Then you have absorbed its knowledge and hopefully understand. But as Qur'an looks now does not even half-way give the right representation of the truth, and I constantly highlight inconsistency in interpretation.
Don't worry I'm not fighting anyone. For me this is only a debate. Quran is not representing the truth? It still does. I don't know how anyone can even doubt that. Are you saying God has allowed us to change Quran so much it's impossible to understand? Did God not keep his promise of protecting it from just that? Please explain.
Ketaab does not equal to Qur'an; it equals to abstract knowledge. Qur'an may or may not bring you knowledge, depending on your interpretation skill, but it is not the only source of knowledge. And Qur'an does speak in a way that you can clearly see that Al-Qur'an was something which was already present with people even before the advent of Qur'an. In fact Al-Qur'an does not mean anything other than knowledge of some kind as in insight. You can form that knowledge using customized words in a written or non-written discourse when you possess the knowledge. The quality of this discourse depends on how well you assimilated the knowledge to begin with. And abstract data needs an abstract mind, so the message of the knowledge of God needs a spiritually attuned mind.
I don't claim Ketaab means Quran only. But the contents of Quran still correspond entirely with the original Ketaab mentioned in Quran. It's the only physical book that has this property, thanks to Gods protection of it.
Take these example, while retaining the erroneous regard of ketaab as book.
253 And We gave Moses the Book and the criterion, perhaps you would be guided.
287 And We gave Moses the Book, and after him We sent the messengers. And We gave Jesus, son of Mary, the clear proofs, and We supported him with the Holy Spirit. Is it that every time a messenger comes to you with what your souls do not desire, you become arrogant? A group of them you deny, and a group of them you kill!
345 And the angels said ?O Mary, God gives you glad tidings of a word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary. Honorable in this world and in the Hereafter, and from among those who are made close.?
346 ?And he will speak to the people from the cradle and to middle-age, and is from among the upright.?
347 She said ?My Lord, how can I have a son when no human being has been with me?? He said ?It is thus that God creates what He wills, when He decrees a command, He merely says to it ?Be,? and it is.?
348 And He teaches him the Book and the Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel.So do you claim that ketaab equals to Qur'an? Was that even revealed during the time of Moses or Jesus?
I don't claim Quran is the only ketaab. Most likely ketaab means Bible and Thora respectively in this phrase.
Not only does it yield inconsistency to your claims but it also gives justification for a man to follow Jesus' teachings without any problem since he conveyed the Book, as you claim. Or I could follow Moses, if I follow the Book he received.
First of all, you were assuming I use ketaab as a synonym for only Quran which I dont believe is true. Second, you can't just follow the ketaab of Jesus nor Moses since it is lost for eternity as a result of human manipulation and corruption. Furthermore the ketaab called Quran informs you about this fact.
Now I know better and I know ketab refers to knowledge. This is because constantly throughout Qua
There is a lot of interpretation work remaining until it would become the "best reminder".
There are many issues with your interpretation as you illustrated yourself 348 And He teaches him the Wisdom and the Wisdom? Right!
Well such person produced Qur'an. And such person could produce another one.
Quran is Gods ketaab not prophet Muhammads. Prophet Muhammad is dead and not coming back.
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Hi everyone, This has been bothering me a while. As I see it there are various interpretations and understanding of the quran. From translations to the true locations and everything in between there seems to be different opinion. Even for those who seek the truth the confusion is only growing. If quran was made easy to understand why is this so? What is the essence of the message? Why is that instead of uniting quran creates more division ? What truly was the purpose of such a venture?
Qur'aan is the only text that facilitates reading and comprehension. Which text is the best for reading pleasure? Reading involves visual fixation on successive locations across the page. The par excellence text is therefore that which might control saccades rapid jerk-like movements of the eyes that direct the gaze to a new location and redeploy the region of high visual acuity centered on the fovea.
Reading is an intensive process in which eyes quickly move to assimilate text. Very little is actually seen accurately. Around the fixation point of gaze only four to five letters are seen with 100% acuity. Please peruse a little text of Qur'aan. Did you notice that there is no fixation point of gaze where there are more than five letters on a single location? The text of Qur'aan is superbly arranged with choice of words that the fixation point of gaze has only four to five letters. Where there is a cluster of more than five letters, the syllable system of Arabic and the provision of vowel between boundaries of words with consecutive vowel-less consonants, help retain 100% acuity at every fixation point of gaze. Thereby the text of Qur'aan controls the saccadic eye movements of the reader to subserve vision by redirecting the visual axis to a new location.
Humans also do not appear to fixate on every word in a text, instead fixate to some words while apparently filling in the missing information using context. The notable exception is when one is in smooth pursuit.
Grand Qur'aan is rendered easy, open and facilitative for reading, comprehension and saving in memory to recall, take lesson and to relate
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@Mazhar Very interesting stuff you're posting here. It raises a question though. Can someone who only reads translations of Quran and uses arabic references to research dubious parts of the translation never reach full comprehension then?
I would find that hard to believe. I'm not denying what you are saying is a plausible mechanism intrinsic to Quran, but I'm questioning how crucial it is to help you comprehend it. I think there is more to it.
