Perhaps THIS ANSWERS YOUR QUESTIONS!? (Regarding Allah,Islam,Reality,Everything)
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Despite the thesis, you still failed to answer the question.
You really need to learn to be more concise and succinct.
Peace.
P.S. Don't bother me with yet another irrelevant answer. I get the gist!
You appear to be kind of rude.
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Peace es.
Every time a "wave" disappears ,another one comes and so on....
Remember "Al-Amir"? Now we have FreedomStands...and so on...
I have nothing against anyone preaching/giving information...etc Also I do not know them or their intentions GOD only knows their motives..
What I disagree with, is their claim of authority ! Let me explain
When anyone takes on the role of helping others understand GOD s word/guiding/leading..others and they have no authority to do so, it becomes an issue.
GOD says He alone guides and Him alone we should seek. No intercessors and no intermediaries.
All we can do here, all of us, is give our opinions/views... People can then take the best and check everything . The matter of salvation should be left between the individual and GOD.
Of course this is only my opinion. People do as they please.
GOD bless you.
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Peace es.
Every time a "wave" disappears ,another one comes and so on....
Remember "Al-Amir"? Now we have FreedomStands...and so on...
I have nothing against anyone preaching/giving information...etc Also I do not know them or their intentions GOD only knows their motives..
What I disagree with, is their claim of authority ! Let me explain
When anyone takes on the role of helping others understand GOD s word/guiding/leading..others and they have no authority to do so, it becomes an issue.
GOD says He alone guides and Him alone we should seek. No intercessors and no intermediaries.
All we can do here, all of us, is give our opinions/views... People can then take the best and check everything . The matter of salvation should be left between the individual and GOD.
Of course this is only my opinion. People do as they please.
GOD bless you.
Peace.Yes, I'll be gone soon, just like the clouds. I have no authority to guide or teach, and everything I am saying may be entirely wrong and evil, and I may be a Shaitan for all any of you know, so if you are able, read the words, and if you find anything of value in them, take it, and if you do not, then so be it.
I do find your comment to be a little bit rude as well though. Did you read what I wrote here? What do you think of it? Comforting people that I'll be gone soon indirectly is not really the nicest thing, could you instead perhaps contribute more by letting me know what I've said you think is right or wrong?
I like what you've said about the Qur'an and your story of coming to Islam, but I became a little shaky when I saw perhaps a little too much support for the 19 stuff (which I am not denying, except you posted a video that suggested that two verses in the Qur'an, two very nice verses, are additions to the Qur'an in order to prove this 19 thing in every conceivable way, and I feel that is taking 19 over the Qur'an and Allah's promise that Allah adds or substracts, Allah causes to forget, Allah compiles and all that).
You know, and this is not meant to be a threat to anything, but I really feel I could kill people when they say they want to remove things from the Qur'an (not you, but if someone militantly wanted to change the Qur'an, I would be on the side of those who would want to slaughter them for that). I'd likewise feel the same passion if someone said they want to burn all copies of some book, or make the Bible cease to exist, or change something historical.
To me it seems an obvious "proving point" of who will be led into this trap of thinking its absolutely necessary that in every conceivable way the number 19 "must" be there, and that Allah "must have" done something, and then taking the word of the Hadith or evidence from the Hadith to try to remove two verses which specifically are about good things and people like that ironically, and verses which do not praise Muhammed as the guy claimed (but ironically the verse in between the two does, which the guy doesn't say to remove).
So such are the various delusions Allah leads people into. I may be under a delusion myself.
So please, instead of comforting people that I'll be dead soon on this forum, why not contribute something nice? Perhaps you can read what I wrote and help me out and tell me where I'm wrong?
Neither Rashad Khalifa, nor I am your guide. If I provide something, it may be lies, and I may be a devil, but how would you know if you don't even read it? If you do read it or if you have read it then please let me know if what I am saying you think is right or wrong, and thereby help me and those others who might come upon it so that we are not misled.
I was going to make you a gift! A Happy 2000 posts thread! I was just waiting for you to reach 2000 posts! I still might do it as I continue to read your work, but I don't know, it seems you want me to leave the forum or are comforting people that I'll be dead on this forum soon? Yeah, I agree, I will be gone, but that isn't a very nice thing to say to people.
If I go look across a table you are sitting at and say to someone else "Remember that guy who is gone? Now we have FreedomStands, he will be gone too" lol so rude.
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It is not they who are rude it is God who is rude! Have you forgotten your doctrine, Freedom?
Salaam
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Salaam 'good_logic',
Nice to hear from you. I trust you are keeping well.
Peace es.
Every time a "wave" disappears ,another one comes and so on....
Remember "Al-Amir"? Now we have FreedomStands...and so on...
I have nothing against anyone preaching/giving information...etc Also I do not know them or their intentions GOD only knows their motives..
What I disagree with, is their claim of authority ! Let me explain
When anyone takes on the role of helping others understand GOD s word/guiding/leading..others and they have no authority to do so, it becomes an issue.
GOD says He alone guides and Him alone we should seek. No intercessors and no intermediaries.
All we can do here, all of us, is give our opinions/views... People can then take the best and check everything . The matter of salvation should be left between the individual and GOD.
Of course this is only my opinion. People do as they please.
GOD bless you.
Peace.It's the arrogance with which I take issue with more so than anything else. And completely reminiscent of 'Al-Amiyr'. I've still not understood to this day why these proselytisers do not preach on their own websites where they can incorporate as many interactive features to satisfy their egotism. That makes more sense to me.
Peace.
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Peace,
You appear to be kind of rude.
Well, I'm not going to debate this or take any responsibility for it. After all, my rudeness is Allah's responsibility.
In any case, you mustn't take issue with my rudeness. After all, you did openly encourage me to insult you in every post you directed towards me.
Take care.
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Salaam MoF,
It is not they who are rude it is God who is rude! Have you forgotten your doctrine, Freedom?
Salaam
I just read what you wrote! Haha, true!
'FreedomStands',
For 'good_logic' to be referred to as "rude" is a joke. In your post, you've just twisted his words and started talking about him wishing you "death" on this forum. It becomes much more disconcerting when you talk about wanting to kill certain people because of their belief system.
Get a grip.
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It is not they who are rude it is God who is rude! Have you forgotten your doctrine, Freedom?
Salaam
Is it really that you misunderstand it so much? Or do you understand, and you knowingly try to make it seem like a cause of mockery? When Allah made Musa achieve something, was it Musa who achieved it, or would the humble Musa say it is Allah who caused him to achieve it? Likewise, nothing happens without the will of Allah bringing it into existence, and the will of Allah is the only will, there are no partners (which is shirk), why is this so difficult to understand and a cause of mockery? The bird is flying, but it does so by the will of Allah who is creating that whole event in every facet of how it exists. So yes, the rudeness is information created by Allah, and my perception of it being rude, and whatever else is from Allah, how many times have I shown you the verses from the Qur'an that say "All is from God" and even if the Qur'an never said any of what it does, it doesn't change the truth in this matter that All is from God Alone.
So that includes everything, but that doesn't mean everything is good for you, just like Allah can create the man that suffers or the child that is diseased. Allah creates whatever Allah wants to create, is this what you want me to stop saying? Would you rather I say that you have the power to create what you imagine even in your mind? You don't.
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Salaam 'good_logic',
Nice to hear from you. I trust you are keeping well.
It's the arrogance with which I take issue with more so than anything else. And completely reminiscent of 'Al-Amiyr'. I've still not understood to this day why these proselytisers do not preach on their own websites where they can incorporate as many interactive features to satisfy their egotism. That makes more sense to me.
Peace.
Do you own this website? Am I doing something wrong? You're almost acting like the people of Mecca who wanted to expel the Muslims. For what cause? What am I doing that is so frightening to you? That I am saying that Allah has all the power? Why does that cause so much distress here, of all places, on a Muslim website?
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Peace,
Well, I'm not going to debate this or take any responsibility for it. After all, my rudeness is Allah's responsibility.
In any case, you mustn't take issue with my rudeness. After all, you did openly encourage me to insult you in every post you directed towards me.
Take care.
I am continuing you to encourage you to insult me and lay out your arguments and mock me and do all those things. Did I say that I won't respond to it and won't call it rude or mockery? Why is it that so many of you seem not to think very far before you say anything? I made this area for you to argue with me, insult me, mock me, and you are free to do so throughout the whole forum, and I will respond and I will say if I think something is rude or if you are being rude or that you are insulting me or whatever, where did I say I wouldn't respond or I wouldn't say anything about it? I am encouraging you to do it, and I will respond, that was the whole point and that is how this form of intercourse works generally.
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Salaam MoF,
I just read what you wrote! Haha, true!
'FreedomStands',
For 'good_logic' to be referred to as "rude" is a joke. In your post, you've just twisted his words and started talking about him wishing you "death" on this forum. It becomes much more disconcerting when you talk about wanting to kill certain people because of their belief system.
Get a grip.
Why do you join in laughter and mocking (haha I know I told you this is the place for that, and please enjoy and continue if you wish)? Why not bring up the points you object to also? Who is this guy you keep comparing me to? Why do you all think I'm preaching? I didn't come here preaching initially, I just noticed some people were saying some things and I wanted to show them some other things that might put into question what they were saying or claiming, but I enjoy talking about this stuff, and if you have some real objection to what I am saying, then please bring it up here so I can explain.
They keep mocking me by saying "so Allah did it" and I show them the Qur'an, that yes, Allah creates whatever Allah wants to create, that doesn't mean "some things are created by Allah, some things there are other creators for" it means all information, all of this is just information created by Allah, but that doesn't mean the experience of struggling to achieve things no longer exists, that too is an experience given by Allah, and you should absolutely strive to do good, and that is the appearance of the immediate level, and on the ultimate level Allah is accomplishing whatever Allah wills and creates, so big deal, why is this such a matter of contention and dispute?
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Get a grip.
What is it that I don't have a grip on that I must get a grip on? It was definitely rude seeming to try to comfort you that I'll be gone soon, I didn't say he was making a death threat, I was saying that what was being implied in order to comfort you was that soon I'll be "dead" on this website, as in my activity will die down or completely stop, like this earlier herald you all keep referring to (Did he say good things? Did you even pay attention to what he had been saying? Was what he was saying even really comparable to what I am saying? I don't know, I haven't looked it up or anything).
So what is it that I need to get a grip on? Is it that you perceive my posts as somehow hostile and arrogant? Could that be a reflection of your own mindset?
I make no claim to humility, in fact I'll say the following to confirm your concerns regarding me
I am full of pride and arrogance and consider myself the least humble of all of you.
There, now you don't have to worry about that, I've said it myself, may I bring your attention then to my request that you let me know what problem you have with my actual writing and its content?
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Peace FreedomStands.
You said
I was going to make you a gift! A Happy 2000 posts thread! I was just waiting for you to reach 2000 posts! I still might do it as I continue to read your work, but I don't know, it seems you want me to leave the forum or are comforting people that I'll be dead on this forum soon? Yeah, I agree, I will be gone, but that isn't a very nice thing to say to people.
Is this the post you are talking about? The best gift you could offer me is to read my posts as a whole,check what I said again.
It seems you forgot to read the bit where I said I do not know what your real intention is,only GOD knows.
So how was I being rude ?
Also, you are right this is a public forum . It belongs to "GOD" as you might say. Stay as long or as short as you wish( GOD knows exactly how long you will stay!) But please shorten your posts a little ,I am spending twice as long reading on the forum! If you want.GOD bless you.
Peace, -
Peace es.
I am fine . Thank you.
Happy 2015. Three years have gone fast?I hope you are keeping well.
GOD bless you.
Peace. -
Peace FreedomStands.
You said
I was going to make you a gift! A Happy 2000 posts thread! I was just waiting for you to reach 2000 posts! I still might do it as I continue to read your work, but I don't know, it seems you want me to leave the forum or are comforting people that I'll be dead on this forum soon? Yeah, I agree, I will be gone, but that isn't a very nice thing to say to people.
Is this the post you are talking about? The best gift you could offer me is to read my posts as a whole,check what I said again.
It seems you forgot to read the bit where I said I do not know what your real intention is,only GOD knows.
So how was I being rude ?
Also, you are right this is a public forum . It belongs to "GOD" as you might say. Stay as long or as short as you wish( GOD knows exactly how long you will stay!) But please shorten your posts a little ,I am spending twice as long reading on the forum! If you want.GOD bless you.
Peace,No, I am still in the process of making the gift, it takes a little time, I'm on page 160 or something from working backwards, now you're at 2002 posts though.
The part I perceived as being a bit rude is to "talk past me" as in "talking to es in order to comfort her" by saying "remember so and so who is gone now? Now there is FreedomStands who is like that person who is gone now" implying that I am like whoever this character from the past was (and it seems people didn't like him and wanted him gone and he is something of a joke maybe) and then implying that I will be gone too. That seemed a bit rude. I was just pointing out that it seemed kind of rude to be like that, like if someone did that at a banquet or something it would be rude as well.
Remember so and so that person with home derision is associated but is all gone now? Well now we have "good logic" and these things come and go like waves.
See? Kind of rude, especially when I'm right here and a person is like talking past me.
Can you perceive maybe how that might be rude? Maybe you can't, that is alright, but it is actually something that might be considered a bit rude by people. That is not to say I might not be perceived as rude myself, I was just pointing out that it seemed rude and also a bit ironic that it was your 2000th post when it was my plan to make a thread dedicated to you on that occasion. I am still doing it, but its taking a while due to the amount of posts I am going through and reading. So starting from the back I'm on page 160 and moving towards the front, when I reach it Insha'Allah I will post it the thread congratulating you on your 2000th post.
I'll then go through some of these other members maybe since another member wanted me to read their work (noshirk, Pazuzu, etc) and I might post things on them as well.
Finally, I might make a collection of my favorite speeches on Free Minds (before I depart, so I don't know when that might be). I am still responding to so many people so that I don't want to make the "Best of FreedomStands" or anything while there is still so much productivity going on.
If you have any objections to how you may have perceived my ideas, please bring up the points so I can adapt or respond or whatever.
See, I'm learning through my own dialogue, and what the things are that people react to badly, for example people really get disturbed when they think of predestination and the loss of free will, and though they vastly seem to misunderstand what I am presenting, I get to see what really particularly the issue might be, like I realized that for one guy it was because he was very focused on "time" and "time perception" and in the case of most others its a matter of their taking issue to "justice", while many other people take issues for whatever other reasons, I get to discover these things about human nature and reaction.
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Salaam 'good_logic',
Peace es.
I am fine . Thank you.
Happy 2015. Three years have gone fast?I hope you are keeping well.
GOD bless you.
Peace.Happy New Year to you too!
Indeed time has gone so fast. It is something I have been giving a lot of thought to of late. The last 3-4 years seems to have passed in the blink of an eye!
Take care.
Peace.
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Salaam 'good_logic',
Happy New Year to you too!
Indeed time has gone so fast. It is something I have been giving a lot of thought to of late. The last 3-4 years seems to have passed in the blink of an eye!
Take care.
Peace.
No happy new year to me? Well happy new year to you! Hmph!
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Peace FreedomStands.
I stand for freedom also.
That means what you do is up to you. You have free choice and we are not responsible for each other.
So please yourself. Be my guest. I do not mind in the slightest.
If you feel I have been rude, I apologise.
GOD bless you.
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Peace FreedomStands.
OH, Happy new year to you.
Sorry for forgetting.
GOD bless you.
Peace.