Al Jumu'ah
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Sura 63 verse 9 O you who believe, when the Congregational Prayer is announced on Friday, you shall hasten to the commemoration of God and drop all business.
Are there any free minds or reformist Muslims in UAE or neighboring countries who are interested in participating in Jumu'ah salat via skype?
Also I'm interested to know how do other free minders, who interpret salat as ritual prayer, engage in salat Jumu'ah? I know there are free minders who don't interpret salat as prayers, sermons or Quran readings. Do you do anything specific on Fridays?
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Salaam,
I do not interpret that it needs to be a "Friday" but the Sabbath is every 7th day and chosen depending on the convenience of the community. But if you speak of my 7th day I do not work and I may sacrifice myself to do something for others. I may occasionally visit a mosque/temple.
And I do not interpret "salateh" to mean prayer, connection or whatever people claim. If I call unto the Rabb it is using the term du'a which is the rightful word for "to pray/call (for)".
Regarding connection (nearness) it is something that is permanent between you and your Rabb if you have managed to appeal, have affinity and merge and not done sporadically or in some strict timed ritual. Join the realm and you have a permanent connection.
Sermon at a temple is done as a mode of teaching by a person who has insight in the realm but is useless if the person preaching has no knowledge and wisdom. If it was good and helpful to a person and they make a realization they can use the old semitic term "amen", which means "realize/make real" and literally "Be Thereof One/Entity". The word can be used differently depending on context but it always connotes on 'realization'.
It does not connote "belief".
Salaam
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Peace Lena,
The word ?Friday? (or Frigg-day after the Norse goddess Frigg) is never mentioned in al-quran. "Al-jumu3at" is a common noun and "yawm al-jumu3at" means "time/period of THE gathering" as used in al-quran and is not the name of a day of the week. Most likely it refers to the time/period of the gathering for hajj.
For origins of "Friday" please see
http//en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frigg
Frija or Frigg is the same goddess as the Roman Venus (Veneris or Venus day is Friday in Latin), the Greek Aphrodite and the Arab Allat (5319). No wonder sectarians who idolize Allat's black cube and black stone took the fertility goddess's day as their holy day.
The current seven days week is completely arbitrary. In fact, the week was not always seven days. Ancient civilizations such as the Egyptians observed a 10 day week. So when Friday occurs depends on when the seven day week was widely instituted and which day it started with. Those two factors are completely arbitrary.
May the infinite Creator guide us to the truth.
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Salaam,
I do not interpret that it needs to be a "Friday" but the Sabbath is every 7th day and chosen depending on the convenience of the community. But if you speak of my 7th day I do not work and I may sacrifice myself to do something for others. I may occasionally visit a mosque/temple.
I agree totally with Man of Faith. It is the day in a week, or in a month, or in a fortnight 62/9 - depending upon the convenience and the decision for the meeting by the like minded people - a small or a big gathering. The date and the time is likely to change for the next meeting. Salat is remembering God with thankfulness and the congregation is for the further purification of our souls. Ritual salat is weird to Quran; what Quran discarded of the worshiping practices by the pagans had been brought back into the mainstream Islam by the hadith mongers. And the gathering may be as gathering your own self or in twos 34/46.
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The word ?Friday? (or Frigg-day after the Norse goddess Frigg) is never mentioned in al-quran. "Al-jumu3at" is a common noun and "yawm al-jumu3at" means "time/period of THE gathering" as used in al-quran and is not the name of a day of the week. Most likely it refers to the time/period of the gathering for hajj.
Salam truthseeker11
I also think the same. So many concepts/rituals were woven around Qur'anic verses in the past 1400 years or so totally disregarding the context. It might refer to hajj but it could also be any day when leader of a community want to gather people to follow certain mutually agreed actions to manage a crisis/situation.
6210 says when salateh is decided, disperse in the land........So here salateh looks like an action plan.
Wherever salateh is mentioned in Qur'an it is asking to follow what is mentioned is the context.
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The number seven often symbolize 'several' as well and not literally seven. This is the reason for the strange seven of a lot of things while it is meant to say several.
Same goes for 40. It is also meant to mean 'many' and not strictly 40 everywhere it is used.
Salaam
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When in the history of Islam, did ju'mah come to be translated and interpreted as Friday? When did traditional Muslims first start doing a congressional prayer on a Friday?
Good question. You may find this work helpful
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9601303.msg261133#msg261133 -
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62-09 {O ye who believe! When the call is heard for the Salaah from the day of The Assembly (Al-jumu"ah ) haste unto the Dhikr of ALaah and leave Seals (Al-bay"a ع That is better for you if ye did but know.}
62-10 {And when the Salaah is done , then disperse in the land and seek of The bounty of ALaah ( Fadl ALaah ) , and remember Allah much, that ye may be successful.}
62-11 {But when they see some trading ( Tigarah ) or amusement they break away to it and leave thee standing. Say That which ALaah hath is better than amusement and than trading , and Allah is the Best of providers}
The verses above is mainly speaking about the call to Salaah from the day of assembly for trading , the concept of trading in a appointed day is very common in ancient civilization and still for today , they call then "the weekly market " in our place still for today every community or region have a appointed day for trading, every trader bring the goods and the store to be fixed in early morning , once the market ( souq ق is finished the trader takes his store with him.
So the point is that people when they went for trading in ordinary market they woke up early to fixe the store and place their goods also people come to that assembly for trading from other regions and villages so they woke up early .
Notice the verse say { from The day of Al-jum"ah/ assembly }
The word "Al-jum"ah" was mentioned with AL which is referring to a known day to them , the word Al-Salaah also with AL which mean its known to them , it's not about a new commande regarding a new version of Assalaah , the verse is speaking about the same Salaah , and it's time Miqaat to be rised up in is also already known along with its timing Mawqet .The commande in that verse is about instructing them to not ignore the same known call for the same known Ssalaah in the same known time when they assemble in the appointed known day for trading
The word "Idha / When " in { - }
62-09 {O ye who believe! When the call is heard for the Salaah from the day of Al-jumu"ah , haste unto the Dhikr of ALaah and leave Seals (Al-bay"a ع That is better for you if ye did but know.}In Arabic tongue "Idha / When " mentioned in 62-09 is always referring to something that happen most usually and inevitably will happen unless the word " If " , so this mean that the verse is talking about a very usual common Call for Sallah it happen very often .
The day of Al-Jumu"ah is not an exception from that point , the only exception in that day is the assembly for trading .
Note Dhikr of ALaah in 62-09 is refering to some of the Qur'aan attribut , see for reference 38-01
