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    Sulaiman, What a King! What an Assembly!
    Sura 2 Verse 102

    They, in the Kingdom 1 of Sulaiman followed only the inducements of shaitans. Sulaiman had never been a rejecter of God; only the shaitans were the rejecters; and it is them who taught men the sorcery. And that which has been sent down with the two angels 2 Harut and Marut in Babyl ? The two said, ?Surely we are a test unto you and do not be 3 the rejecters of this warning? before they taught 4 that to any of them. Despite this, they learnt from them that could 5 cause division between husband and wife. Yet, without the permission of Allah none shall cause any evil upon anyone with this 6. Therefore they learnt that which should only cast curse upon them and avail them naught a good; and they know well that that which they have bought for a price would provide them no good for the future. What they bought losing out on their souls is outrageous evil, if only they knew.

    1. The Kingdom of Sulaiman was profusely studded with the powers of varying order from the skies to earth. The birds, the ants, the termites and many more and their languages were taught to Sulaiman and was in full control of them and had the wisdom to communicate with and command them individually; and the mountains bowed to him; and the iron would become soft and brass would melt by his will; such and many more with Sulaiman that Allah alone knows what they were. And Sulaiman?s assembly included the angels, the jinns, the living martyrs ? the ones who completed their lives in this world as His Signs; such of them are those who were raised as the truthful, as the believing, as the good doers, as the helpers in the cause of Allah. We shall not call them dead for they are all alive as His Signs, as witnesses, as helpers, and as proofs who were studded in the assembly of Sulaiman?s Kingdom. Sulaiman was using all his means at his command with his wisdom to make them know and believe Allah so that they may take to the luminous way wishfully. But he never used physical force (2.256) upon his people to make them comply with his will, for force is not the Right Path to Allah. That was perfect Islamic Rule by Sulaiman in his vast empire full of shaitan-induced disbelievers. Sulaiman?s Kingdom has been the only Islamic Nation the world could ever see, and for all time to come. This could have been mis-propagated as Sulaiman had been soft on disbelievers and had fallen to them. But Allah ascertains Sulaiman had never been a disbeliever. But the people were who followed only what shaitan had whispered to them.

    2. In his empire there was this city called Babyl infested with the people involving in sorcery and black magic. Since Sulaiman was never to use force, which is un islamic, he wanted to prove to them the Sign of Allah is truthful and should beat out the black magic. Sulaiman chose two angels from his assembly of malayika, namely Harut and Marut and were commanded by Sulaiman to descend on the people of Babyl. And they descended on them in perfect human forms. The Sign of Allah they possessed with them is the wisdom to unite the divided family. But the miscreants, the sorcerers and the disbelievers could use the same wisdom to divide the families too. There was a severe test for the disbelieving people in what the angels Harut and Marut brought with them.

    3. And when the sorcerers and the disbelieving people came to know the fast spreading names and the power of ?the two people? in the city who were merging and bring together the divided families, their minds calculated the misuse they are capable of doing, if only they possess the knowledge of Harut and Marut. The sorcerers and the miscreants approached the two and pleaded with them to teach them their powers.

    4. The angels knew them well and warned them of the evil and their doom if they ever misused it. Yet, they gave false promises to the angels Harut and Marut, and forcibly learnt it from them.

    5, 6. Finally what they learnt could cause them no good and they became the victims of their own vices. What an outrageous evil that they had learnt selling their souls!

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      5.83O God, Identify To Us Our Messenger!

      And when they listen to what is revealed to the messenger, their eyes will overflow with tears because they realized the Truth. They will say Our God, we believed. Inscribe us as among the witnesses. 5.83

      Here, this ayat speaks to all people today as to the way the people of faith and gratitude will be moved, by their hearts when they happen to listen to the Truth through their own messengers by the leave of Allah; each community and each nation of the world would identify its messengers chosen of them all by Allah; and with thankfulness they remember their God in their hearts dearer than ever, tears overflowing because of their God?s Mercy, Wisdom and the Light bestowed upon them.

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        Salaam brother Fazl,

        The Arabic 'rasuul' word literally means someone is a beacon towards someone and is not supposed to be taken fleshly/worldly, like the rest of what the Author inspired, as a concrete message. The Quran and what other prophets taught was a consciousness and that was the consciousness of Allah.

        Nabi on the other hand means a person who is enlightened literally. He has insight into the realm and it only depends on one's own spiritual ascension and how near one becomes to the Sustainer. It is an earned condition and not assigned randomly.

        The lesson towards people with understanding is that the world is not to be treated as a physical reality at all but as an affinity. We all and all matter belong to a grand consciousness called Allah and we should give up our separate (fleshly) rebellious egos and exist in Allah instead.

        Salaam brother

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          Salam
          Brother,
          Man of Faith.

          Quran is not for fleshy living alone, but to attain the kingdom of the Arsh which in essence is the virtual life, by the leave of Allah. Therefore what I want from you now is the virtual meaning of Rasul and of Nabi. Let me listen to what you have to say beyond literacy, as you know I have a very special disregard for the literacy. And I want to hear a little more clearly about. "one's own spiritual ascension".

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            Salaam brother Fazl,

            Quran was composed by a person assimilated in Allah and its language is very forth telling even when used "literally" because the Arabic used carries a strictly abstract rather than concrete and the words should never be taken to refer to the "fleshly illusion".

            I thought I conveyed myself clearly in the previous post, but I can make another effort. In all I am not your opponent but we have a similar understanding of the faith. I am not at all bothering with sectarian terminology or definition but rather follow the spiritual meaning implied by their author.

            You need a distinction between abstract literacy and concrete literacy in what I say or what the words in Quran say. Quran works entirely on an abstract level and this is why a majority of people cannot understand it no matter how hard they try. Words in Arabic convey a spiritual message, particularly out of the intricate meaning of each letter which are as abstract/spiritual as they can be.

            Example is asema "Be consciousness thereof be", obviously referring to the realm.

            Since the Arabic language does not have an overwhelming amount of letters you can say it only works around with nearly 30 letters carrying a highly spiritual meaning to convey what they like to say. Yet a combination of those nearly 30 letters can have a root combination of 3 different variations forming a sea of meanings which can used in many contexts. And also some words only used 2 letters and even one letter as in the first letter of chapter 38 and 68.

            Okay. Over to your real questions and not just randomly rambling wisdom. I will change into the spiritual meaning disregarding the temporary flesh.

            Nabi - "One With Substance " the sequence of letters speak for themselves, it refers to a person who has joined the abstract realm of Allah. He or she is inside the narrow gate (allegorically speaking), and can "channel" knowledge and wisdom from this depository.

            Rasuul "Concrete Consciousness To" worldly people regard it as messenger while people with insight would say beacon and who show the way to the realm/kingdom. There is no concrete message to have the word messenger to be any efficient term but each light is abstract. Jesus did never write any book but he fulfilled a vision of another 'nabi' (person within). Quran is the same, it is also a vision to be fulfilled. Quran teaches a mode of preaching and is a vision for someone to fulfill.

            Salaam

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              Salaam,

              Spiritual ascension is when you have the important factor nearness to Allah which implies up to a condition when you are totally assimilated in the phenomenon Allah. The guidance, knowledge and wisdom of the real nature of existence will come as a result of that merging and surrender to the phenomenon Allah.

              And to stand a chance of succeeding in the above nearness you will have to struggle for affinity and assimilation. An important measure is dealing with ego and worldliness and give that up for merging with Allah.

              Salaam

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                Brother Man of Faith,
                Salam.

                No. You are not at all my opponent; rather I do not consider any as an opponent for we are all for Allah. Brother, please exchange your views and opinions unmindful of me or how I take it; I only opt to take the best of the exchanges 39/18. As Allah says we either shall ponder all alone or look up to Allah; or discuss in twos with fear for Allah 34/46. Here are my views in submission

                Quran is being inspired to every individual who is self-conscious and who values and fears His conscience, an inbuilt, original software in one's own mother tongue, in each one's soul, or in the Ruh of Allah. A hard copy of it is given in parts to various prophets and finally in its wholesomeness, the attested hard copy, the Quran is given to the last prophet, The Muhammad, by Allah. The prophet was inspired with and authorized for the Quran; and he, 'The Muhammad' certainly is not the author of Quran 29/48.

                I need to know what you mean by the two words opposites in nature abstract literacy. And especially when your assertion is - "Quran works entirely on an abstract level". Up to this level I want to exchange our views, before we move further.

                Nabi - "One With Substance " the sequence of letters speak for themselves, it refers to a person who has joined the abstract realm of Allah. He or she is inside the narrow gate (allegorically speaking), and can "channel" knowledge and wisdom from this depository.

                Rasuul "Concrete Consciousness To" worldly people regard it as messenger while people with insight would say beacon and who show the way to the realm/kingdom. There is no concrete message to have the word messenger to be any efficient term but each light is abstract. Jesus did never write any book but he fulfilled a vision of another 'nabi' (person within). Quran is the same, it is also a vision to be fulfilled. Quran teaches a mode of preaching and is a vision for someone to fulfill.

                With regard to Nabi and Rasul more clarification is needed, which I wish to take up later, as we proceed with the discussion.

                Salaam
                drfazl

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                  594Beware of your brute force

                  O you who believe! Allah will surely test you to a degree with what you hunt by your hands and spear@ that Allah makes known those who fear Him in secret. And those who transgress after this, they shall suffer a painful torment.

                  @ Hunting by hands and spear Hunting by hands indicate your ?physical? strength which urges you to subdue the weak people; and the spear denotes here the sharpness of your ?physical? brain by which you outsmart, overreach and trample the humble and honest ones. Soon Allah will make known their secret plan and transgression in open perchance they repent; but after this they continue in their dishonest devising Allah shall make them taste a painful and disgracing torment.

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                    Salaam brother Fazl,

                    I did not ignore your previous request but I waited for more time to brainstorm what exactly you like to read because my previous attempts were not sufficient as it appears. Still not sure if I can convey something sufficient on a topic this abstract but like you already know the visual "world" that we see is not as physical as it seems but is only just a materialized illusion (what looks and feels physical). When you like to discuss the true nature of Allah and the realm then you have to take into consideration that fundamentally the realm, including Allah, is entirely spiritual, abstract, so if we like to get to the bottom of it we have to think and reason such as that the visual "dimension" we live in does not really exist except that it works like a grand consciousness. But it does not end there, but there are also two options to choose in that ONE consciousness and that is being an ally of nothingness and an illusive mass which appears to be the shattered spirit of Shaitaan who seems to somehow be absorbed into this illusive reality and our fleshly apparitions are drawn towards indulgence in what our primitive body's desire for.

                    The best weapon against ourselves, to save ourselves, is to struggle hard to detach ourselves from those desires for they are only in vain and through various measures (mentioned in Quran) deepen our spirituality. When we think concretely we are at risk of losing our minds to the fleshly trap, so we must always find a way to think beyond the illusion. And that we can do through joining the consciousness of Allah which is definite although will not let you in unless you give up the flesh plus the consciousness of Allah will not be (abstractly) perceptible until one is separating the mind from the body, and through body means all the flesh combined including your own body.

                    The illusive body your have you are unfortunately stuck with, but as assimilation goes into the realm of Allah then the dependency will feel felt to be reduced and you will feel detached from Earthly mass and also the visual delusion so you can feel in a semi-trance state and to wander in the spiritual detachment. It is incredibly hard to describe in words because words always have their limitations, but considered your personal progress I suspect that you already know the feeling of this condition.

                    The optimal condition is when you feel you do not really exist on your own but you exist in the consciousness of Allah because you could absorb your ego in Allah and through Muslim's favorite term, so-called absolute submission. The difference is that Allah is never separate from yourself but it is you who should exist in the Oneness that is the only true existence, but if you worship Allah like something separate then you have missed the point. The best worship is to do the will of the Rabb and be realized in Allah. No neanderthal Pagan rituals required because that is too only talking but the one who does the will of the Rabb is the one who shall prevail.

                    Allah did never prescribe any ritualistic prayer but what was prescribed (or recommended) was to stay near the image of Allah, to maintain the connection (Nearness and Guidance), although salateh is the wrong word people are looking for because that word only refers to the individual's own ways, their path-taking, perception. But it is clear that the one treads that path should do it in assimilation with Allah, to keep affiliation rather than succumbing to the illusion of this world. The one who is wise and knowledgeable, gained by goodness, shall see that abstaining from their own bodily pleasures and the illusive world will boost this abstract absorption into the realm of Allah. Because man was made to tread in the image of Allah, but the flesh tempts the man and the instincts prevent him if he lets the body rule.

                    Now I did not exactly answer your questions about nabi and rasuul, but I will if the Rabb permits do it.

                    Nabi seems to be the perfect assimilation state which I mentioned above, but not many people reach that far in the distraction of this world. One is granted access to a depository of Knowledge and Wisdom and can perceive the world beyond its illusive borders. One may even see the force/spirit/energy which keeps the illusion intact. What the Rabb wills they can do because the Rabb will prevent too profound signs for the hypocrites must not realize about Allah and the wisdom is with the Rabb. If the Rabb willed everyone could obviously have realized very easily about Allah, but now that is not the point. But the Nabi is more than realized about Allah but also inside a greater consciousness beyond this illusion to mass.

                    The rasuul, abstractly, is like a beacon, showing the way with its light. The light is conveyed and not recited and it is through the exemplary assimilation the person is to be followed.

                    Not sure if you are contented with that brief elaboration. Can you please ask specific questions so I know where to pick up the thread?

                    Salaam

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                      The PlatterThe IgnorantThe PunishmentAnd just a plate of food

                      5.112
                      When the disbelievers said, ?O Isa, son of Maryam, can you make a platter descend down upon us from the sky?? He said, ?Fear Allah, if you are believers.?

                      The ignorant are these who cannot least understand that the plates upon which their foods are at this moment is from the greatest of all plates, the earth, created by Allah as only a platter.

                      5.113
                      They said ?We wish to satisfy our hearts and to know for sure that you spoke the Truth by eating thereof; and that we wish to be witnesses to it.?

                      Every day?s food we consume is from the earth?s surface which is the grandest, greatest and vastest of all platters in which the seeds gather, germinate and grow into food and also serves as all provisions for us; all created by Allah from nothingness; yet the ignorant ask for a small platter as food directly from the skies for them to see to believe that Allah creates all food from what they know not. Let us be aware of it that every plate of food from this entire platter of the whole surface of the world by the only Creator, to Whom we should show our gratefulness by distributing them all among the mankind; if we do so, each day shall be a festive day and a feasting day for the entire world population till the Last Day. Allah has thus created us as honored guests by making us born in this world; but shaitan introduced the money and the finance for the food and the feast from Allah became fasting and starving without even a plate of food for the households for days; this is a deterrent punishment for those who sell foods; and we see billions and billions of people in the world starving, begging and laying on the pavements - a sure punishment from Allah; today we shall awaken to this ?Truth come true? from Allah and fear Him; it is time we formed a government and vote leaders into power who have sense not to sell foods and their provisions; if we do not stop selling the foods and their provisions from this day, then listen to what Allah says in the following verse 5/115.

                      5.114
                      Isa, son of Maryam said, ?O our God Allah! Send down upon us a platter; it will be a grand sign from You and a food festival for us, and to our fathers and to our descendants; and fulfill our needs; and you are the best in fulfilling our provisions.?

                      Isa, son of Maryam is left with no option but turn to Allah for the sake of ignorant who are to be shown His Signs to their very material sight. Yet Allah warns before accepting Isa?s submission. But they did not distribute the platter of the world, the foods of Allah to the people; instead the governments and their chosen leaders are such that they finance the food, control the food from reaching the public and clandestinely plot against the people, to make the people as slaves. Even the so called Muslim nations are touching and grabbing the forbidden trees which is meant for the entire world. This is the reason why Allah has chosen to punish the muslim nations to begin with, with starving and disgrace. Soon Allah shall seize the world as a whole with even severer punishment, if the people of the world continues to choose shaitans as their leaders who touch the trees and grab the provisions of it.

                      5.115 Allah said, ?Surely I will send it down; but after this whoso of you become a denier, I will seize him with a torment that I had never seized anyone with in the world.?

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                        Indeed the Rabb created food and all matter, but originally it was not intended that we would be part of the mass. Shaitaan beguiled us into indulgence.

                        And the "marathon" fasts, so-called Ramadhan, are clear whispers of Shaitaan. Yet they feast in the evening for what they lost during the day. Such is not healthy.

                        It is okay to eat, for we need to keep the flesh alive, but we should only eat as much as the body needs. And excess love of food and drink, without conscious consumption, is a danger to the succumbing to Shaitaan just as the invented long fasts.

                        Yet Shitaan does not want us to die but love the material illusion and so we should suffer and then indulge in a lot food at a feast in the same evening. And this kind of eating is bad for the health too.

                        Salaam

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                          Brother MoF

                          Is it a response to my post or are you sharing your opinion in general? I think it is your general opinion. I regard it.

                          salam.

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                            Salaam brother Fazl,

                            It was a response and own input.

                            Salaam

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                              Salaam brother Fazl,

                              Still not sure if I can convey something sufficient on a topic this abstract but like you already know the visual "world" that we see is not as physical as it seems but is only just a materialized illusion (what looks and feels physical). When you like to discuss the true nature of Allah and the realm then you have to take into consideration that fundamentally the realm, including Allah, is entirely spiritual, abstract, so if we like to get to the bottom of it we have to think and reason such as that the visual "dimension" we live in does not really exist except that it works like a grand consciousness.

                              Allah is the wholesomeness of all and endless of His attributes, the qualities necessary for a boy or a girl, or a man or a women to be a Human; whereas a man is considered to be a physical one, a Human is considered to be considerable in nature and attributes of Allah by which standards billions of men and women elevate as individual Human beings. Allah is with every Human being; His attributes are the treasures of His gardens of this world and the world next - the unseen and the unknown nature of which treasure is known only to the Creator, the Knowing.

                              But it does not end there, but there are also two options to choose in that ONE consciousness and that is being an ally of nothingness and an illusive mass which appears to be the shattered spirit of Shaitaan who seems to somehow be absorbed into this illusive reality and our fleshly apparitions are drawn towards indulgence in what our primitive body's desire for.

                              Conscience i.e., the Scriptural encryption in a Human's soul, is all inclusive God-Endowed Potential with Exclusive Power against the spirited shaitan; the more we ponder in our God's Qualities, the more we imbibe the same in us as our unseen natural wisdom and power, by the leave of Allah. Every material visible, and every force invisible will be under our command from heavens to earth and everything in between by the leave of Allah. We will be able to detach ourselves from the business, laboriousness and hardship of the man invented material way of living to easy, cozy and rosy life 29/2, by Allah's leave.

                              The best weapon against ourselves, to save ourselves, is to struggle hard to detach ourselves from those desires for they are only in vain and through various measures (mentioned in Quran) deepen our spirituality. When we think concretely we are at risk of losing our minds to the fleshly trap, so we must always find a way to think beyond the illusion. And that we can do through joining the consciousness of Allah which is definite although will not let you in unless you give up the flesh plus the consciousness of Allah will not be (abstractly) perceptible until one is separating the mind from the body, and through body means all the flesh combined including your own body

                              Revive the Conscience, by reminiscing all the glad-tidings of the past and the present as only from Allah, which is possible only by shedding the pride and humbling before the Almighty and the Unknown Highness. Only at this point the fleshly parts of us and of the entire universe fall in submission to the Power of Mind, the Commander in abstractness. The fleshly parts will be absorbed into the Soul, the Ruh of Allah in us. This is living by soul and flesh together, flesh submitting to the soul. In this way the flesh is as good as non-existing.

                              The illusive body your have you are unfortunately stuck with, but as assimilation goes into the realm of Allah then the dependency will feel felt to be reduced and you will feel detached from Earthly mass and also the visual delusion so you can feel in a semi-trance state and to wander in the spiritual detachment. It is incredibly hard to describe in words because words always have their limitations, but considered your personal progress I suspect that you already know the feeling of this condition.

                              Quran is Conscience - Allah's Command, Edict and Vivid Expression in man's poor, literal, material, smattering arabic - in order that it is easy to get into pondering and get the better expression and perception of it. Allah has chosen arabic because it is the most docile of all scriptural languages. The more superfluous a language is considered by a population, they will be too arrogant and hardcore to be flexible to attain higher perceptive quality. They will never rise above their literacy.

                              The optimal condition is when you feel you do not really exist on your own but you exist in the consciousness of Allah because you could absorb your ego in Allah and through Muslim's favorite term, so-called absolute submission. The difference is that Allah is never separate from yourself but it is you who should exist in the Oneness that is the only true existence, but if you worship Allah like something separate then you have missed the point. The best worship is to do the will of the Rabb and be realized in Allah. No neanderthal Pagan rituals required because that is too only talking but the one who does the will of the Rabb is the one who shall prevail.

                              Allah did never prescribe any ritualistic prayer but what was prescribed (or recommended) was to stay near the image of Allah, to maintain the connection (Nearness and Guidance), although salateh is the wrong word people are looking for because that word only refers to the individual's own ways, their path-taking, perception. But it is clear that the one treads that path should do it in assimilation with Allah, to keep affiliation rather than succumbing to the illusion of this world. The one who is wise and knowledgeable, gained by goodness, shall see that abstaining from their own bodily pleasures and the illusive world will boost this abstract absorption into the realm of Allah. Because man was made to tread in the image of Allah, but the flesh tempts the man and the instincts prevent him if he lets the body rule.

                              Now I did not exactly answer your questions about nabi and rasuul, but I will if the Rabb permits do it.

                              Nabi seems to be the perfect assimilation state which I mentioned above, but not many people reach that far in the distraction of this world. One is granted access to a depository of Knowledge and Wisdom and can perceive the world beyond its illusive borders. One may even see the force/spirit/energy which keeps the illusion intact. What the Rabb wills they can do because the Rabb will prevent too profound signs for the hypocrites must not realize about Allah and the wisdom is with the Rabb. If the Rabb willed everyone could obviously have realized very easily about Allah, but now that is not the point. But the Nabi is more than realized about Allah but also inside a greater consciousness beyond this illusion to mass.

                              The rasuul, abstractly, is like a beacon, showing the way with its light. The light is conveyed and not recited and it is through the exemplary assimilation the person is to be followed.

                              Not sure if you are contented with that brief elaboration. Can you please ask specific questions so I know where to pick up the thread?

                              Salaam

                              My addition and input to this comes later on.

                              Salam
                              Brother MoF.

                              drfazl

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                                Thanks brother Fazl,

                                We basically think alike with different words and minor other differences. Blessed be all in Allah (for those who choose that path).

                                Salaam

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                                  Revelation Of Quran - Testifies What Is In The Soul Of Man
                                  Prophets Bring Quran As Witness To The
                                  Soul Of Man 6.18

                                  Say "Which is of most weight in testimony? And say Allah is witness between you and me; this Quran is bestowed upon me through wahi - inspiration thereby to warn you and those who were bestowed with it@. Do you have proof there are deities besides Allah? I bear no witness to it; verily He is the only God; and I am quit of that you associate.?

                                  @ 13.43 and 6.18 stresses the Truth that the Quran is a Spacial Expression of Creation to those who reflect upon their very presence and existence in the vastness of space. The prophets are chosen to explain to them and the others clearly in communicable language, about the Truth in their souls. Before Quran is physically expressed time and again through the chosen Prophets and Messengers, it is inscribed in each one?s soul at birth. There are people who live by it; there are people who can remember when they are reminded of it - such are the witness to Quran; and there are people who have rejected the Quran, thereby their very souls forever, living defiantly all through their lives.

                                  Quran is clear explanation, verification by way of its revelation in the life of this physical world as you live as mortals; and a revelation helping you to ascend to the throne of the metaphysical world as immortals. Quran is not for literal reading incorporating man invented lexica and morphemes. Quran is the communicable language between the Soul and the mind; and not for linking the clay-pot brain to the material world.

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                                    Dear Dr Fazl,

                                    I give here the highlights for me from your post #438 in this thread.

                                    Allah is the wholesomeness of all and endless of His attributes, the qualities necessary for a boy or a girl, or a man or a women to be a Human;

                                    Allah is with every Human being; His attributes are the treasures of His gardens of this world and the world next

                                    Conscience i.e., the Scriptural encryption in a Human's soul, is all inclusive God-Endowed Potential with Exclusive Power against the spirited shaitan;

                                    the more we ponder in our God's Qualities, the more we imbibe the same in us as our unseen natural wisdom and power, by the leave of Allah.

                                    The fleshly parts will be absorbed into the Soul, the Ruh of Allah in us.

                                    Quran is Conscience - Allah's Command, Edict and Vivid Expression..

                                    Beautiful!! It gives me a feel close to my heart.
                                    I accept. I submit.

                                    Beyond doubts, questions, word wars,
                                    Beyond words to feel.
                                    Beyond facial expression to spacial expression.
                                    Beyond body to mind.
                                    Beyond earth to seven skies.
                                    Beyond visible to the unseen.
                                    Beyond explained to inexplicable - known only to the Creator.

                                    My prayer
                                    O the Complete! O the Wholesome!
                                    Help me to be Human. I handover the responsibility to you.
                                    All glory be unto you.

                                    Gita

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                                      The fleshly part you will be detached from. It is nothing permanent unless you fail the purpose.

                                      Salaam

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                                        Normally people have and ask these questions

                                        1. What is Faith healing?

                                        2. How can any one cure another of his diseases if it is from God as a test or as a punishment?

                                        First let me tell you the very important fact, 'I do not treat a patient, but God does cure one when we turn to Him soulfully without setting up partners or associating things with Him viz. the doctors, the men and their knowledge.' If you are a believer in God you also believe that He is almighty and there is nothing He cannot do. Whenever we fall ill He is the One and the first to give us the glad news, "You shall be ok!" Thus He proposes to us in the very first instance as a Command as well as a Blessing enlivening up our heart; and our hearts respond reverberating with a dearly feeling, overwhelmingly accepting and submitting to His Command, 'Yes, I should be ok!'

                                        In other words our hearts are echoing the Command of God with a blessed and power generated feeling of belief, 'I shall be ok!' Thus to a believer who believes in God's words - for him the creative power of God begins from within his heart as life rejuvenating force. As this force builds up in strength with the belief, the worry regarding the disease wears out 'By the Hour', and we tend to forget very often that we have an illness - this state of mind indicates the disease force in our system has started weakening; and the life force is growing stronger as long as your belief and patience stands the test of time. The rejuvenated life force starts pervading the circulating life energy driving away the disease force from our system. A believer thus shall maintain belief and patience as long as it takes to kill the disease force for good.

                                        So you should have understood by this time what I do. I strengthen your belief with the following questions. Try to understand the questions and answer them carefully. You should verify your own answers to the questions and see if your answers tally with my answers. Let us go to my questions and your answers

                                        Q Do you believe in God?

                                        A Yes.

                                        Q Do you believe in that He has power over every thing?

                                        A Yes.

                                        Q Do you understand any good feeling in your heart is the blessing, a glad tiding and promise from God?

                                        A Yes.

                                        Q Do you understand that when you earn any evil, it is God's words "You shall be ok," that soothes your heart?

                                        A Yes.

                                        Q Are you sure without His allowance there is no blessing upon or God's creative force in you; and nothing moves in the good direction?

                                        A Yes.

                                        Q Is it right if at all we should survive, our livelihood shall have to come only from God?

                                        A Yes.

                                        At this point we come to know our duty is to be aware and well receive the revelation from God as He sends down His blessings upon our hearts. For example, whenever we are ill or seized with some misfortune, the very first words of blessing from Him is Get rid of it! If only we lower our ears to it,- this is not only a blessing, but also a command from the Almighty. Believe and surrender to His Will; His Will be done! It is He who will deliver you from all your adversities; thenceforth the lives of such believers will be blossoming without major hitch or hinderance. This is God's creative power in the heart of a believer, reassuring and enlivening. It is worth living when we abide by such commanding life force. This is believing in God. This is living by the leave of God! God cannot be seen; God cannot be heard; Godliness has to be felt in the fullest measure as His blessings descend down upon our hearts - with a sense of absolute surrender, free from suspicion caused by the worthless and objectionable human knowledge, say, the hopeless medical knowledge. When we use our brain abreast of God's wisdom embedded in one's heart as His Will, the worst of all evil befalls us; we tend to brush aside the wisdom of Allah, and fall a prey to the 'possessed-knowledge'.

                                        Suppose a medical knowledge says you are suffering from third degree cancer and you will die in 3 months, - and if we believe in any such nasty utterances of these inglorious 'specialists' - we fall from the Grace and Mercy of God. Let us be mindful now which words to believe those that which is revealed to your heart by His Grace or the fraudulent words of the ignominious doctors upon whom you confer the specialist status when in truth they are ignorant to the core? If you consider the doctors are specialists who then is God to you? This means He is nothing! Thus God is despised, disregarded, ignored as a mean thing! Hence the ignorance shall be ruling over us as we brush aside His mercy and forgiveness while holding our knowledge with pride and arrogance high above the wisdom of God.

                                        Whereas the knowledge has to develop for all time to come until the end of the world and thus it is always ignorant, the wisdom of God is absolute. Whatever is revealed is knowledge; and what is yet to be revealed is of the wisdom. In other words the knowledge we possess is the ignorance; and what we need to know is the truth. Knowledge is what is seen of things; while the truth is the invisible wisdom from which the living comes into being. Thus the knowledge is an outdated self destructible thing but the wisdom is the truthful unseen life force that creates and originates. So which of these do we believe in The unseen invisible wisdom of God? Or we believe only in the visible self-destructible human knowledge that shall destroy us too in the end? Believing in the Wisdom is believing in God; and believing in knowledge is believing in Satan. Only one of these two can exist in your heart either belief or disbelief; liveliness or self destruction.

                                        God is boundless and free from any boundary we make for Him; so you cannot shape him within a boundary line either imaginatively or unimaginatively; He is finitely infinite that you cannot define and bound Him within the boundary of the knowledge of human beings. It is important to know at this juncture that God is a feeling of blessing; and not a thing. Thus your heart is the sanctum sanctorum that conceives the godliness as blessings. In your case you have conceived God's blessings such as "You shall be free from your diseases!" Now your belief in God alone makes the conceived grace to develop into visible creation; and so keep up your belief until the maturity is complete and reaches full term; never get disheartened at any point of time and fall from your belief to disbelief, and so neither shall you abort what you have conceived of God or can you afford to caesarian deliver it through the cutting edge of the human material knowledge lest you should say God has forsaken you!

                                        From this moment, your heart alone is your temple; the blessing you have conceived in your heart is the sanctum sanctorum; and you have to keep the conceived blessing sanctified - without the disbelief ever touching it i.e., without encountering it with the human knowledge, until the blessing reaches its full term and is delivered to you in the pristine pure manner and form. This is how you are delivered from your diseases and adversities.

                                        This is my way to Allah. There is no God in shape or form but there is the Godliness i.e. the feeling of Blessings from God in each of us. If you understand that you should have belief in God in the manner I have clarified above; and if you shall be steadfast in the belief until conception period of His Blessings reaches full term; and that you shall not slacken in your belief during its course, then my prayer shall be of definite support to the belief you have in what your God has sent down upon you - until the word of God is delivered to you and you become alright. So I do make my point clear that I am not curing any of his diseases; but strengthen his belief in Godliness so that he cures all by himself by His Mercy, with a bit of steady and prayerful support from me. We will never know how long it will take before you are cured; for the Time of Term is with God. For a believer he shall never be hasty. They shall keep in contact with me whenever they need support to their belief. Once a week contact for the prayerful support is good enough until they gain their own faith by the leave of Allah.

                                        salam
                                        drfazl

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                                          Ibrahim, His Descendants, The Indian Subcontinat

                                          6.75 And We showed Ibrahim the ruling of the skies and the earth so that He is certain
                                          6.76 Thus when the night covered over him, he saw a star; he said, ?This is my God!? But when it set, he said ?I do not like that sets.?
                                          6.77 And when he saw the moon rising, he said ?This is my God!? Then when it set, he said ?If my God does not show me I will be of the misguided!?
                                          6.78 And then when he saw the sun rising, he said ?This is my God; this is the biggest!? And when it too set, he said ?O my people, I have rejected all that you associate to God.

                                          From 6.75 to 6.78 Allah reveals how He was teaching and guiding His servant Ibrahim slowly over a period, to make him gain His wisdom above the earthy knowledge of the people of his community who were then as different tribes worshiping the Stars, the Moon and the Sun as their Gods. Yet by Allah, Ibrahim was applying his personal scrutiny, the criterion to determine his ?belief-course? and passed through all the stages one after another, such as the Star, the Moon and the Sun successfully that he ultimately after years of time discerned for good that none created shall be gods but the One Creator of all that is in the heavens and in the earth, The God. Thus Allah teaches Ibrahim about Himself, Allah. Be all praise to Allah, the God of all the worlds.

                                          Like the yesteryears this day, we find the Hindu society as belonging to the descendants of Ibrahim?s religion such as idolatry, the various deities; worshiping the Stars, the Moon and the Sun and Everything on the earth and in the skies as their Gods. And like Ibrahim they constantly are shifting between one belief to another and finally there are innumerable people who take to Quran for the guidance, believing in Allah. The true and real descendants of Ibrahim are presently here in the Indian sub-continent.

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