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    huruf
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    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places (Ephesians ? 612)

    ?Government? (English) compound word derived from Latin gobern (control) and mente (mind).
    Government = mind control.
    Full stop, end of the story.


    The following excerpt is from an e-mail I exchanged with a friend, a few days ago

    That's a good answer. You have a point there. But before I reply to you regarding the paradigm issue, I would just like you to know that throughout the years, I have learned to differentiate between two kinds of science

    1. empirical science the kind that gives you information and facts that you can easily verify for yourself, using relatively simple tools.

    2. politically correct science, or occult science the kind of science which enforces upon the masses certain ideologies that have no evidence whatsoever, or that rely on false evidence, fake evidence, or evidence that is intentionally made to be so spectacularly intricate and complicated, that the layman like you and I cannot understand it, and will eventually become discouraged from looking into it. In other words, pseudo-science.

    This second kind of ?science? tricks people into believing certain things, and eventually ends up shaping their entire consciousness, in order to make them slaves to the controllers. This second type is the ideology that becomes dogma, and induces a knee-jerk reaction of mockery towards anyone who speaks against it. It is no different than blind, religious beliefs.

    Examples of the first type of science

    1. Water evaporates at 100 degrees. You can confirm this yourself, by doing the experiment with a thermometer, in your own kitchen. Check.

    2. Hot air is lighter than cold air. Try going up in a hot air balloon. Check.

    3. The air gets thinner as your altitude increases. Try climbing to the summit of Everest, and see if you will have trouble breathing. Check.

    An example of the second type of science In 1969, rocket compulsion technology allowed three American astronauts to walk on the moon.

    Or did it?

    What would your reaction be if I told you that NASA belongs to the second type, and that their so-called ?astronauts? (or should I say Astro-Nots) are mostly shit-eating Masonic occultists who not only staged the moon landing, but never even went up into space to begin with, and that their so-called ?international space station? is nothing but a hoax, whose theater is actually the interior of an airplane?

    I know what you're thinking already here comes another "conspiracy nut". This is the understandable knee-jerk reaction from those who think that reality is what they see on television, or what they hear on the radio.

    But the fact is that the Apollo 11 moon landing was shot inside a studio, using cameras and equipment developed by the military, who made them available to director Stanley Kubrick, who in turn made use of them to shoot his 1968 film ?2001 A Space Odyssey?, wherein he used never before seen camera techniques. The catch was that Kubrick, in exchange for military assistance, would help the government stage the moon landing and keep his mouth shut. This is why those who actually saw the movie in the theaters, and who still have early editions of the film (in video tape format) could see, in the credits at the end, the names of dozens of military persons and institutions. These names caused many audiences to wonder as to why they were mentioned. Later, the shit-eaters of NASA decided to remove these names, so they do not appear on later editions.

    Kubrick eventually had a crisis of conscience, and began inserting subtle clues and coded messages in his films which exposed the hoax, plus other imagery that certain people up in the high echelons did not like. They decided to dispose of him in 1999, shortly after his film ?Eyes Wide Shut? came out.

    The proofs you require that the Earth is flat do not need to be extraordinary. It is because the LIE that the Earth is a sphere has been backed by such extraordinarily false and devilish evidence (Hollywood magic) that it has blinded us from the truth that has been right there, under our noses, up until the 16th Century. And if you think this is a silly ?church? fantasy, you better think again. Because the facts show that, until the 16th century, it was scientists, not priests, who wrote books and drew maps and diagrams based on a conviction that the earth was indeed flat and stationary, and that it was the sun and the moon that circled above it, in a plane. The church simply went along with them and adopted the creed, for political reasons that you will discover soon.

    Later on, when the idea of the global (spherical) earth appeared in the writings of the Copernicus, the church was initially very apprehensive of the idea and began brutally prosecuting the proponents of this new ?blasphemy?, until they eventually gave way and were forced to indoctrinate it into the creed, again for purely political reasons.
    Keep in mind that when you live in a world of deception, where your perception of reality constantly shifts according to what paradigm the controllers want you to live in, and where lies become the norm, it is only then that you have to prove the truth, because the truth becomes the exception.

    But this doesn?t need to be the case. The truth should be so obvious ? but only when you learn to see it with your own eyes, and not through the lenses of occult magic, trickery and glamour that they have installed over them.

    The earth is flat, and stationary.

    Mankind cannot reach space, and NASA never walked on the moon.

    So have fun with the videos I promised, my friend. Have as much fun with them as the NASA shit-eaters do when they go up there and smile through their teeth, while mocking the general stupidity of the brainwashed masses, all to the glory of their occult masters.
    These videos should keep you occupied during those long Ramadan nights.

    P.S. Try not getting distracted, or diverted, and watch the videos in the logical sequence I have proposed. You will see how it all makes sense, and how the pieces of their devilry all fit together.


    NASA hoax the International Space Station does not exist, and their so-called ?space walks? all take place under water.

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5d7tXEVW9o


    Random NASA space station ....err...underwater tank...err...airplane fuckups (includes water bubbles in space)

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X0HgFWsNlk


    BUSTED! (note the crooked smiles and facial expressions of the shit-eating bastard liars)

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp9Y8I6v_Ds


    The Lie of artificial communication satellites

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLMRWvXuc5U

    Of course, once you find out the Earth is flat, then it all makes perfect sense. No satellites needed.


    NASA?s fake spherical planets...the romantic magic that humanity has fallen for

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8tIm-fxE_s


    We are not living on a planet, but on a plane covered with a dome. This dome is mentioned in the Bible as ?The Firmament? and in the Quran as the ?Raised Ceiling?. This is the dome that the occultists, with their rockets, reached in the 1950?s, and saw the thing that scared the shit out of them.

    It is high time we realize that we are being deceived by governments that are profoundly evil, profoundly corrupt, and profoundly perverse, by a league of individuals who do not give a damn about God, humanity, or the truth, and who care about only one thing manipulation and control of the masses, by whatever means possible.

    It?s time we woke up from the dream

    The truth that each human knows and feels in his subconscious, no matter what Barack Obama says

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzw9pIxK09M


    This also explains why airplane routes in the southern ?hemisphere? are so skewed, and passengers all over the world keep scratching their heads, wondering why there are no direct connections. The planes have to stop to refuel (sometimes even moving seemingly absurd distances northwards) before continuing south again. This is because the distances are much longer than they have brainwashed us into believing. It is because the Earth is flat.

    Airplane routes expose the great deception of the ages

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNVgzk3tbl0


    It also explains why planes mysteriously ?disappear? from GPS when they are over the southern oceans and seas, only to ?miraculously? appear again once they approach their destination (wonder why those Malaysian flights ?mysteriously? disappeared and could not be tracked? Ask yourself which part of the ?planet? were they in?) You want to know why planes don?t fly over Antarctica?

    Because Antarctica is not a pole in the south. Such a continent does not exist. We have been lied to

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g-SsXIJp80


    Independent (non-NASA) hot air balloon shows you that the Earth is a perfect plane. The horizon is completely flat

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnzUgKZ8m2k


    The Antarctica Treaty, signed by the Occult World Powers in the 1950?s, to cover up their matrix of deception

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8skhK2tMpjk


    And here is a series of videos from which expose the blasphemy perpetrated against humanity (incidentally, listen to the pathological, godless liar named Obama, as he rambles about another myth to the brainwashed sheeple around him ?GLOBAL warming?)

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=djgPdJ9u4hE

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0nHCP_yVEI

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mfJXp4ePu0

    And finally, this complementary video discusses the psychological and social aspects of having people wake up to the truth, and why the powers are scared shitless of the consequences. It begins with a 20 minute introduction about an American explorer by the name of Richard Byrd who made several trips to Antarctica, and the cover-up conspiracy which suddenly, out of the blue, decided to stop all exploration there despite Byrd?s assessment of the enormous economic benefits that could be obtain from that ?giant landmass larger than America, and whose further reaches no human has seen?. It shows you how they hide the truth in plain sight (you can skip the first 20 minutes if you want).

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9-kswobjfI


    Peace.

    There are only videos on this? Nothing written?

    Salaam

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      FreedomStands
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      That's no answer to my question!

      Ps. Next time, try waiting 5/10 min - for me to edit my post/s - before you can quote me.
      Mind you, I'm sort of a perfectionist.

      Though I personally believe it mentions the round Earth, people would choose some other interpretation if it was believed the Earth is flat, people will likely try their hardest to choose the interpretations that match up with reality the best (apologetics).

      There is the whole "egg-shaped" thing that people mention as a "Scientific Miracle" of the Qur'an, while the very same stuff is used by enemies of Islam (maybe Christian Evangelicals) and those who believe in the flat Earth to say there is a flat Earth.

      Ultimately though, I think the issue is not important at all, because Allah can make the Earth Flat or Round in an instant, can make everyone convinced it was always that way or make them believe a shift occurred, they can suddenly find things in the Qur'an that seemed to never have been in there before and remember having seen them all their life or it might appear they were somehow added.

      So we're just dealing with the moment, whatever Allah is making us think or see at this time. To some people, Allah makes the Qur'an seem like absolute trash, to others Allah makes it seem profound, to some Allah shows some words, to others Allah shows no words. That is the power we're dealing with, all we can do is pray for ourselves and hope for the best.

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        Salam, huruf.

        There are hundreds of articles and links online. You can simply use any search engine. But the reason I posted videos is because the visual aids there convey the idea far better.

        If you prefer reading, here are some examples

        http//www.debate.org/debates/Scientific-evidence-overwellmingly-supports-a-flat-earth/1/

        http//www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

        https//www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/flat/flateart.htm

        http//www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Experimental+Evidence

        http//www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2014/11/the-flat-earth-conspiracy.html

        Check these books out

        http//www.amazon.com/Zetetic-Astronomy-Earth-Globe-Forgotten/dp/1605064173/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1433959310&sr=1-2&keywords=flat+earth

        http//www.amazon.com/Flat-Earth-Bible-debunks-minutes/dp/151234673X/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1433959349&sr=1-3&keywords=flat+earth&pebp=1433959351549&perid=ECDD8BCA120A4165A5BA

        http//www.amazon.com/Flat-Earth-News-Award-Winning-Distortion/dp/0099512688/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1433959349&sr=1-6&keywords=flat+earth&pebp=1433959382154&perid=ECDD8BCA120A4165A5BA

        There is the whole "egg-shaped" thing that people mention as a "Scientific Miracle" of the Qur'an, while the very same stuff is used by enemies of Islam (maybe Christian Evangelicals) and those who believe in the flat Earth to say there is a flat Earth.

        There is no egg-shaped fantasy in the Quran, ANYWHERE. This is another stinking example of those who resort to acrobatics, and twist the meaning of the Quranic terms to make them fit with the pseudo science of the shit-eaters.

        Unfortunately, FreedomStands dos not understand the implications of this paradigm they have created, and seems to take this issue likely.

        I will return to this thread and show you what the goals behind it are. Maybe then it will open your eyes to the truth that this is not a matter to be taken lightly.

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          Salam, huruf.

          There are hundreds of articles and links online. You can simply use any search engine. But the reason I posted videos is because the visual aids there convey the idea far better.

          If you prefer reading, here are some examples

          http//www.debate.org/debates/Scientific-evidence-overwellmingly-supports-a-flat-earth/1/

          http//www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

          https//www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/flat/flateart.htm

          http//www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Experimental+Evidence

          http//www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2014/11/the-flat-earth-conspiracy.html

          Check these books out

          http//www.amazon.com/Zetetic-Astronomy-Earth-Globe-Forgotten/dp/1605064173/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1433959310&sr=1-2&keywords=flat+earth

          http//www.amazon.com/Flat-Earth-Bible-debunks-minutes/dp/151234673X/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1433959349&sr=1-3&keywords=flat+earth&pebp=1433959351549&perid=ECDD8BCA120A4165A5BA

          http//www.amazon.com/Flat-Earth-News-Award-Winning-Distortion/dp/0099512688/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1433959349&sr=1-6&keywords=flat+earth&pebp=1433959382154&perid=ECDD8BCA120A4165A5BA

          There is no egg-shaped fantasy in the Quran, ANYWHERE. This is another stinking example of those who resort to acrobatics, and twist the meaning of the Quranic terms to make them fit with the pseudo science of the shit-eaters.

          Unfortunately, FreedomStands dos not understand the implications of this paradigm they have created, and seems to take this issue likely.

          I will return to this thread and show you what the goals behind it are. Maybe then it will open your eyes to the truth that this is not a matter to be taken lightly.

          You believe the Earth is flat? I'm just wondering.

          Yeah, I do take the issue very lightly, but I'd like to read more about it, maybe in small chunks, because even though I write big posts I can barely tolerate them from others (hypocrisy and other diseases).

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            faruk
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            Salam Pazuzu.

            I'm really disappointed with you. Till today I regarded all your posts of highest quality except one thread of first man's birth from earth directly and following all your posts. How a sane man in 21st century can think of a flat earth? I'm sorry if I hurt you with this comment.

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              I did some research on flat earth theory and was not convinced simply because in the sky all other stars, our moon and planets look round. Ours won't be exceptional because it too resides in their universe. I agree that a vast number of so called scientific facts are questionable. But this one is a bit too empirical.

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                I did some research on flat earth theory and was not convinced simply because in the sky all other stars, our moon and planets look round. Ours won't be exceptional because it too resides in their universe. I agree that a vast number of so called scientific facts are questionable. But this one is a bit too empirical.

                I'd like to walk right off the Earth!

                I saw a google maps car today, the one that takes pictures of the streets. I wonder if some of them have never returned once they hit the edge of the map and fly right off into space.

                In some depictions they show the edges of Earth have giant waterfalls, the water which falls out into space or something I guess, and I suppose water just perpetually gushes from somewhere without being recycled, or maybe it sucks it back in a giant hole.

                Some depictions show the Earth as flat but circular, just like the moon and the sun are flat circles in the sky, or how people have 1 dimensional personalities.

                In fact, I may be one dimensional myself, since I've never actually seen the back of my head with my own eyes.

                Speaking of which, when I'm flying in a plane and I can see the curvature of the Earth, I think how far reaching this conspiracy is, that they would even put fake video screens on the airplane windows just to fool me.

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                  I personally don't care much if the Earth is flat or not, moving or not, I think the people on it are kind of horrible regardless of its shape, size, or weather.

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                    This is too much to say the earth is flat at this scientific age.

                    There are scientific people who questioned things, giving answers to those too and warn people of problems in society these are real messengers of modern era which we need to heed. But some people just want their ideas of religion to be ever truthful these are idolizers and their minds are closed.

                    There are also hyped up and hoaxed things spread in this world by some to maintain supremacy and these are yet again existing because of the people who believe everything others say, those will never stand time and will be exposed.

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                      I think this is why sectarians for long propagated that the Earth is flat despite that EVEN the Biblical Scriptures confess the Earth is a sphere, and so obviously also Quran also in its current tainted condition.

                      I wonder about what those scientists who observe the universe are observing when they say it is expanding and starts implode and observe the births of galaxies. GOD must have a sense of humor by placing video screens around the Earth playing fiction motion pictures.

                      Be well

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                        reel
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                        I saw a google maps car today, the one that takes pictures of the streets. I wonder if some of them have never returned once they hit the edge of the map and fly right off into space.

                        http//www.sherv.net/cm/emo/happy/rolling-on-the-floor-laughing-smiley-emoticon.gif
                        That was a great smart catch.

                        Speaking of which, when I'm flying in a plane and I can see the curvature of the Earth, I think how far reaching this conspiracy is, that they would even put fake video screens on the airplane windows just to fool me.

                        if you sit hours at night and keep your eye just in one star you will see it move like a curve. It perhaps is an illusion because its the earth that is rotating. I believe there would be a big difference in seasons' pattern and sun light if the earth was truly flat.

                        There are also hyped up and hoaxed things spread in this world by some to maintain supremacy and these are yet again existing because of the people who believe everything others say, those will never stand time and will be exposed.

                        Some are intentionally planted to make real conspiracies look false. The idea is that two false can destroy one truth. But the one you are talking about matches the case of Dajjal. Oh boy, I wasted many nights reading about it.

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                          I'd like to walk right off the Earth!

                          You mean like in the following picture?

                          http//i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb386/Gorefiendel/flat-earth_zpsjbnfi3vh.jpg

                          That is a fantasy. This is the stuff the church used to scare people with, in the dark ages, to discourage the spirit of adventure in them. They would tell the people something like "Don't bother trying to cross the Sea of Darkness (Atlantic Ocean). You will fall off the giant waterfall at its edge".

                          With all due respect to your opinion, I didn't come here to propagate such crap.

                          The Earth is enclosed. It has a boundary. This is the thing that they don't want you to know.

                          When you have done enough reading on this subject you will find peculiar and suspicious reports of ships (in the old age, when the ships had sails), braving the catastrophical cold and icebergs of teh so-called "South Pole", only to find a "mysterious" island of ice that they could not breach no matter how hard they tried. They would circle it for months, and not find any crevice or crack through it. So they would give up, turn back and sail away to where they came from, and then they would write in there reports that there is simply no "end" to this island. But the fact is that it is not the polar island continent called Antarctica that they stumbled upon, but the actual ice boudary of the Earth. The Ring or Wall of Ice which surrounds our world.

                          The United Nations knows this for a fact, and they are hiding it from us. This is why, in the 1950's, when the cold war was at its peak, and despite the nations of this staged and fake world all being divided into "Communist" vs "Democratic" axis, and all that crap they teach us (it's all a giant play, I assure you), you find out that they all "miraculously" came together and signed a treaty to make the so-called "South Pole" unaproachable, and off bounds. If you have seen the last video link, you find out that no human being on this Earth can approach that region without getting a permit. No private company can. It is forbidden. They have military ships placed there, all around the perimeter, equiped with radar, which will turn back any stray airplane that approaches the region. If the pilot does not comply, they will shoot the plane down.

                          You don't believe me? Look up the Antarctica Treaty. They hide the truth from you by claiming this bullshit that they are "preserving the south pole to conduct scientific experiments for the good of mankind" (because they are benevolent angels who truly care for humanity).

                          THERE IS NO SOUTH POLE.

                          The Earth is surrounded by a gigantic wall of ice. This is why they turn airplanes away. It is because the powers that be, the occult masters of this world, who will go to any length necessary to mask the reality of the Creator from the sheeples of this world, found the edge of the Earth.

                          The map you see below is false. It's a lie.

                          http//i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb386/Gorefiendel/Antarctica_zpsdvtewwlc.gif

                          Let's think a bit. Why do you not find any south polar flights from South America (Chile, Argentina, for example) to Australia? We have hundreds of north polar airplane routes, but not one commercial plane in aviation history can boast that it has crossed the south pole from South America to Australia, eventhough the route would be much shorter and practical than the twisted and absurd route that they actually follow. If you ask them, they say "Oh, it's too cold. Airplanes can't handle it"

                          See, when you trying to pass your bullshit on the world, you must continuously invent more bullshits to defend your original bullshit. That's how it goes. This is why a famous Egyptologist once said "They must find it difficult, those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than the truth as the authority". It is because teh false paradigm that they have imposed on humanity has to be perpetually propped up with lies. But you discover the ploy, it's all over. The game ends. Their deception is exposed. Such is the ploght of Iblees.

                          This is what the Earth looks like, with its perimeter, the real Ring of Ice, guarded by the military

                          http//i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb386/Gorefiendel/cvb_zpsm7onufie.jpg

                          The United Nations of Satan even adopted the true shape of the Earth, and put it on their flag, as a kind of mockery. It's right there, hidden in plain sight

                          http//i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb386/Gorefiendel/thSFZFQE0J_zpsgl54a84u.jpg

                          I urge again to watch these two videos, which will show you just how messed up and absurd all flight routes are in the Southern Hemisphere, and why no planes are allowed to be tracked on GPS south of the equator. They are not long videos.

                          https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNVgzk3tbl0 (12 minutes)

                          (Note how Hollywood tends to give you subliminal messages in their films. It's almost as if the yare teasing us)

                          https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g-SsXIJp80 (6 minutes)

                          You see, in a flat world, there are no short cuts. So can you explain why someone who wants to travel from Sidney, Australia to Buenos Aries, Argentina, for example, has to make a stop in Los Angeles, USA first?

                          Imagine you are a passenger in an airport, and want to book such a flight. You might think of the simplest routes, which could be as follows

                          http//i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb386/Gorefiendel/sydeze_gc_zps4dlptqfa.gif

                          Or, better yet, why not take a south polar route?

                          http//i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb386/Gorefiendel/untitled_zps970owh0r.png

                          The fact is, neither of these two flights exist. Instead, you get the following

                          http//i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb386/Gorefiendel/WTF_zpsc2yvdkc3.gif

                          You can try this experiment yourself by calling any flight agency, and booking a flight from anywhere in Australia, to anywhere in South America. I guarantee, that you will find no logic in the flight path. And if you ask the agent why it;s like that, he will have no clue.

                          Does the airplane need to refuel perhaps? And if so, why stop in Los Angeles? Why divert to the north "hemispehere" and then south again?

                          Look at the flat Earth map, and you will find out the reason for this light path.

                          http//i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb386/Gorefiendel/flat-earth1_zpswchjy6r0.jpg

                          It is because there are no hemispheres. The Earth is flat.

                          Now, you ask me what happens if you somehow bypass the angelic military and reach the edge? What will you find? The Creator, whose exitence the Occult Powers are trying to mask (these are the same shit-eaters who gave you the theory of evolution), purposely designed this Earth in such a way to discourage you from thinking of going near the edge. How so? Well, first of all, the weather becomes colder and colder (even colder than the north centarl circle), you will encouter violent winds, icebergs, and finally, if you somehow make it to the end (as some reosolute captains have done in the past), you will reach the ends of the earth. The giant Ice Wall.

                          This is what you will see

                          http//i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb386/Gorefiendel/antartika_resimleri_03_zpsmurr9tzc.jpg

                          As to what lies beyond tha wall, and what the Quran actually says, this will be continued...

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                            https//36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0ubl0eirZ1qie94xo1_500.jpg

                            Hollywood tends to give you subliminal messages in their films. It's almost as if they are teasing us

                            Their job is to trick the people's eyes/perceptions .

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                              seekingtruth1111
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                              You see, in a flat world, there are no short cuts. So can you explain why someone who wants to travel from Sidney, Australia to Buenos Aries, Argentina, for example, has to make a stop in Los Angeles, USA first?

                              Imagine you are a passenger in an airport, and want to book such a flight. You might think of the simplest routes, which could be as follows

                              You can try this experiment yourself by calling any flight agency, and booking a flight from anywhere in Australia, to anywhere in South America. I guarantee, that you will find no logic in the flight path. And if you ask the agent why it;s like that, he will have no clue.

                              Does the airplane need to refuel perhaps? And if so, why stop in Los Angeles? Why divert to the north "hemispehere" and then south again?

                              Peace Pazuzu

                              Actually there is no direct flight from australia but there is direct flight from Auckland to Santiago on LAN Air/Air NZ. around 11 hours direct flight. No need to go via LA.

                              http//www.lan.com/en_au/sitio_personas/destination-guides/

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                                Peace Pazuzu,

                                It's easy to prove whether the earth is flat or sphere in shape. Do you have telephone? call a friend or relative in Singapore and New York , USA. If the earth is flat in both places it is either day or night. If the earth is sphere , in one place it is day and in other place it is night. Hope your friend or relative is not colluding with NASA.

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                                  hicham9
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                                  http//wiki.tfes.org/images/7/70/SunAnimation.gif

                                  Day/night cycles according to TFES.
                                  They consider our (distorted) perception of sunrise and sunset to be caused by perspective effect, &c.!

                                  3640


                                  Flat, or Round?
                                  Which Earth does the Qurn support, I wonder!

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                                    l-Qurn, Sreh 3640

                                    CU Neither is the sun supposed to reach the moon, nor doth the night overtake the daylight, and each floats in a spindle?

                                    ? ie. a pivot, or fulcrum
                                    N.b., the qurnic locution for "each in a spindle" is a palindrome K L P Y P L K ( ) ...
                                    I see 7 graphemes, the median of which is a one-off! The rest are twains!

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                                      Man_of_Faith
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                                      How does a compass work then if the world is not spherical?

                                      Be well

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                                        Thanks @ hicham.

                                        Although this diagram you have shown is a bit too primitive, it does give an idea. The moon and the sun are actually not in the same plane. The Sun is farther out (which explains eclipses) but I assure you that the sun is NOT 93 million miles from the Earth, and is NOT larger than the Earth, as they have deceived us into believing. The rabbit hole goes very, very deep, and at the end of it lies Satan, crouched in a fetus position.

                                        Let any one of them come forward now, and show me where in the Quran does it say that

                                        1- The Earth rotates around an axis
                                        2- The Earth is egg shaped
                                        3- The Earth revolves around the sun

                                        It doesn't say that. What we are dealing with is a WAR against our percerption. They have declared WAR on our very senses. They not only want you to disbelieve 17 centuries of observation and empirical science, but to go as far as to disbelieve your own eyes, and to take their CGI, computer animations, and camera tricks as the truth. Yeah, let's film the Earth with a wide-angle bird's eye camera lens and then show the world that it's a sphere.

                                        The Creator (whom they are seeking to mask) made this Earth fixed and firm for you, and put up two lamps, one for the night and one for the day, then covered the earth with an invisible firmament, and then challenged you to pierce it. They KNOW for a fact that it exists, because their rockets cannot breach it. So what do they do? They film rockets taking off, and almost always, the launch is by the sea. Ever wondered why they choose such locations for their pads? (Cap Canaveral, anyone?). Look at the fake Chinese space program, do your research, and see where they launch the rockets from. It's either from sea side, or deep in deserted areas, so no one can watch. So that no spectators can see the rocket going in an arch and then landing back on Earth. So no one can see them defy the Creator and fail at it (until now, I maintain, no human has gone to space).

                                        WE HAVE A LIFT OFF!!

                                        Enjoy the bullshit here

                                        https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=spSedU5qO7M (10 minutes)

                                        https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvMlAqC4bm4 (4 minutes)

                                        After the rocket falls back to earth (or the sea), they then transport you, through their trickery, to the outer space, where they stage fake shows (either in underwater tanks or on board airplanes doing areal tricks), and the astroNOTS are always laughing. You ever notice this? Look for videos of live chats with astroNOTS and you will see them always goofing off and playing with something, with big smiles on their faces. They are supposed to be in a very dangerous environment, potentially lethal, where even the minutest mistake can spell their end, and yet they are laughing. You want to know why? It's because they are laughing at us.

                                        How a sane man in 21st century can think of a flat earth? I'm sorry if I hurt you with this comment.

                                        No offence taken, I assure you. I am insane.

                                        @ Seekingtruth1111

                                        You should know, by now, that not all listed flights actually take off. The gentleman in the video showed you this. 90% of flight discrepencies, puzzles and anomalies (weird, unexplained delays) are encoutered in the southern part of the Earth, not to mention the fact that planes aren't tracked by GPS there.

                                        It's not just the Pacific Ocean flights. But also in the Atlantic. A north Atlantic flight from New York to London is pretty straight foreward. Now try boarding a South Atlantic flight. As an example, take a trip from Rio de Janeiro (Brazil) to Johannesburg, South Africa, and see where the plane will take you (a stop in some meditteranean city is almost certain). You find passengers always wondering why that is so. Look at the flat earth map and see why it doesn't make sense.

                                        http//maps.bpl.org/id/15442

                                        Also, you should remember that a direct flight isn't necessarily a no-stop flight. The two concepts are not synonymous. From a legal perspective, an airplane going from point A to point C can stop at point B to refuel, or even to load / unload passengers, and still be considered a direct flight from the point of view of the passenger who stayed on it (because he / she is still in on board the same airline).

                                        So, even if we assume that the Auckland-Santiago flight is not a phantom listing, and is indeed direct, it most probably stoped in Honolulu (which is where most southern flights from NZ stop) to refuel. Or maybe there's something else that they aren't telling us?

                                        When you heard the news of those pacific Malaysian flights that mysteriiously disappeared from radars, didn't you find anything suspicious about this? Why would a plane take off, be visible for a while, then as soon as it reaches open water, it dissapears from tracking? Is there something they're hiding from us?

                                        How difficult do you think it would be for these demonic entities and master liars to cover up true data regarding any airplane flight south of the equator? And why do we not encounter these anomalies in the northern part of the Earth?

                                        There is plenty more stuff to come.

                                        More important than the deception though, is the motive behind it. Why are they lying to us? What is their goal?

                                        This video will give you some clues

                                        https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AKA6h7QZtw (50 minutes)

                                        @ huruf

                                        Here's another link for you 100 proofs the Earth is Flat (you will have to wait for the pages to load)

                                        https//archive.org/stream/onehundredproofs00carp#page/12/mode/2up

                                        To be continued...

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                                          How does a compass work then if the world is not spherical?

                                          Oh, you mean the compass that always points to the magnetic north?

                                          Well, if the Earth truly is a magnet, then you should do some reserach on flat, disk magnets. Can you guess where the poles are on such magnets? The positive pole is in the center, and the negative is all around the edge.

                                          The Earth is flat.

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