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Time To Change Your Paradigm

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    good_logic
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    Peace All.

    I cannot make out whether this is serious or a joke.

    How can we prove the earth is whatever shape it is?

    Do you think internet links can ever be a "proof"? Is this not what everyone is doing?

    For example

    http//www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae535.cfm

    Have I proved to you the earth is spherical?

    No?

    Then I give up. By the way I have nothing to do with the "Illuminati"!!! What goes around comes around,perhaps it is round.

    GOD bless you all.
    Peace.

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      hicham9
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      What did our Master say?

      If we disagree over anything, we do what? (459)

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        theAlchemist
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        I agree that they never went to the moon! I agree that NASA manipulates the images and videos!

        But what about the physics and chemistry? What about the mechanisms through which the sun releases its energy? What about the earthquakes? What about the deepest point on earth, the Mariana Trench?

        Actually, there is a dome around the earth and that is a magnetic shield provided by earth's rotation!

        and about the flights not taking the shortest path over Antarctica, it may be because in case the planes fail or crash they would have a hard time sending rescue forces to those cold, stormy regions so they take the safest routes!

        I find it too hard to accept that all around the Flat Earth there are military forces preventing people from reaching the edge! How many forces and infantry would we need, considering the vastness of the earth?!

        Salam Brother,
        Then what was the hidden purpose of NASA to stage a fake moon drama? I am not denying physics and chemistry. Gravity is an important part of physics as they claim..But the fact is gravity does not exist.You can prove that with a simple helium balloon.Does the sun's energy release mechanism has anything to do with earth shape? Yeah earth may have deepest point.We are not talking about earth thickness.May be its huge.

        Yeah you are right. They are not circling around the earth.They have technology.

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          Zulf
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          I find it odd when someone says that gravity doesn't exist. Doesn't the apple fall to the ground?? What makes things fall downward in a flat world??? Even in a flat world there'd need to be gravity. Or?

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            hicham9
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            O Collectivity? of Coverts? and Commoners,

            if ye should be able to escape from the confines? of the heavens and the earth, then escape.

            Ye won't breakout,

            save by sanction

            CU
            Sreh
            5533


            ? or, Society
            ? ie. Privateers
            ? ie. the borders or boundaries
            lit. except with an authorization.

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              reel
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              Gravity
              Disproof of Gravityhttp//www.gsjournal.net/old/science/guerami.pdf
              Seven things that don't make sense about gravity http//www.newscientist.com/special/seven-things-that-dont-make-sense-about-gravity
              "Gravity Doesn't Exist" --Is this Fundamental Phenomenon of the Universe an Illusion?http//www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2012/11/gravity-doesnt-exist-is-gravity-an-illusion.html

              When science shakes hand with marketing great lies can be shown as complete truth.

              Then what was the hidden purpose of NASA to stage a fake moon drama?

              Competition with Russia

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                runninglikezebras
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                Tin foil hats for everyone!

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                  OussamaNL
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                  Thank you dear God, my brains did a nice worked after reading this thread.

                  Greetings from The Netherlands. May God increase our Knowledge.

                  Peace.

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                    Man_of_Faith
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                    Hello mmmm,

                    What is wrong with communism? Have you read the ideology behind it and not just what you have read about it of propaganda? That is the most conforming ideology with GOD as it can be. Everyone is cared for under a real communism. It is only selfish people who like to have the systems we have now, but in GOD's kingdom it will be fully implemented communism so I wait for that.

                    You have probably only watched the excuses for communism in the world which was only a charade. Soviet/Russia, China or Cuba are not exactly communism but dictatorships under the guise of communism. Talk about having hijacked Karl Marx's philosophies.

                    Many former working classes and poor families today could have reasonable advancement under the revolution of the workers that happened in the 19th and 20th centuries with the creation of unions. You can thank the partial implementation of communism for that which is called socialism, which is at least a good way to go and sufficient.

                    It is basically good vs. evil, communism vs. conservative and it has always been and many are fooled into voting for those backwards conservative parties who talk about liberty while the real liberty is more towards the socialistic direction.

                    If communism was fully implemented in a nation no one would ever go hungry and it would prosper technologically and more love would be among the citizens as less people are outcasts, as long as the nation functions with its economy. Unfortunately people have the wrong idea about this concept.

                    But the most important would be to change the mentality of man to be less greedy and more tender.

                    Be well

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                      unknownuser
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                      The best we can say, is that we don't know. Unless you can actually get a bird's eye view of the entire earth - you can't "prove" anything.

                      In any case it matters not whether the land we reside on is a plane or spherical or egg shaped or cylindrical. Any manifestation of Earth proves The All-Mighty's existence. Whether there is a sheet of ice surrounding the Earth's rim and a bio-dome/protective layer (which I think exists in any case) or all of the planets orbiting their star, it still proves a Creator's existence.

                      The Quran is a book of guidance on morality and that we will be accountable for it to our Creator one day. Let's not ignore that. The Quran is not a product manual on the sizes and shapes and speeds of physical objects (although it does refer to scientific aspects on several occasions). We should not be arguing with each other on what the shape or size of anything is, because remember, all these current physical manifestations are temporary and will vanish one day. On that day we will know the truth in anyway so lets focus on what's important, belief in the Creator and the last day, and to do good to mankind.

                      That being said, I agree that the human lunar landing was sheer nonsense as are a lot of other things that NASA spews out. It probably was a hoax. Their own photographs prove it. It was nothing but an Egoistic endeavor - a very laughable one at that.

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                        Man_of_Faith
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                        Some kind of gravity exists or otherwise you would not be sucked towards the Earth's ground whenever you jump but bump your head in the ceiling of that theory of yours.

                        Magnetism exists because the Earth contains a magnetic field which various apparatus can measure.

                        Then we also can ask ourselves what it is we see in telescopes when you behold planets and galaxies. Is it large video screens showing prerecorded material?

                        If you look beyond the horizon over an ocean it will say something.

                        Anyway, I am not into the astronomy business except reading science magazines, but I favor those studies over these.

                        What happens when meteors hit the Earth? Are GOD throwing down rocks?

                        Be well

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                          Jafar
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                          The best we can say, is that we don't know. Unless you can actually get a bird's eye view of the entire earth - you can't "prove" anything.

                          There has been many people who actually has seen the 'satellite view' of the entire earth using their own eyes.

                          And in the very near future travelling to space will be available in such low cost and everyone can see with their own eyes.

                          It's much better to spent the effort to solve the following

                          • How to make space travel efficient and low cost
                          • How to travel to another solar system or galaxy efficiently

                          Rather than debating on the 'shape of the earth'..
                          (Which is actually obvious for those who has decent mind)

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                            runninglikezebras
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                            During the 8th-10th century muslims were the pioneers in many sciences. Lightyears ahead of Europe. In 2015 we are again confronted with muslims claiming the earth is flat. It's depressing to think about.

                            Peace

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                              runninglikezebras
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                              And (the) people of Nuh before indeed they were a people defiantly disobedient. And the heaven We constructed it with strength, and indeed We are surely its Expanders. And the earth, we have spread it how excellent are the Spreaders.

                              Quran is telling us how the universe is Gods creation, expanding, just like the big bang theory describes. Then Quran goes on to tell us how the Earth was created; from a flat protoplanetary disk. The Quran uses the word l-mhidna, also used for bed, cradle. Clearly, Quran is speaking about the creation of earth - proto-planetary disks are the cradles of planets.

                              One unresolved issue with the current scientific model is that it cannot explain how the initial orbits of the proto-terrestrial planets, which would have needed to be highly eccentric to collide, produced the remarkably stable and nearly circular orbits they have today.

                              Of course science does not take into account God when dealing with proto-terrestial planets.

                              Peace

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                                Man_of_Faith
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                                The curse of religion and the (separate) god delusion.

                                Be well

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                                  GODsubmitter
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                                  An interesting article about medieval mentality that influences scientific thought nowadays, evolution et al, and why, perhaps, we are not even supposed to "know" everything...

                                  http//wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/19230126p01.html

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                                    FreedomStands
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                                    Salam Brother,
                                    I personally think the globe model of earth has been well Established when man stepped on moon for the first time.They got a visual of round earth for the first in human history. But it has been proved that moon landing is nothing but a Hollywood movie directed by Stunley Kubrick. There are so many things out there that does not satisfy me to believe in a globe model of earth. There is a relation between Illuminate,CERN,New World Order, reptilian shapeshifter,earth dome.

                                    You are a globe earthiest,right? So why do you think that the earth is more likely a globe?

                                    I don't tend to think about the Earth being a globe or flat much, usually I'm just walking around doing other things, but when I look in the sky or in a telescope, the other heavenly bodies all appear to be round, like the moon, and the sun, and the stars, and they seem to be globes, so one can assume that the Earth might also be in space like those objects and might also be a globe like them rather than an entirely different shape, but it isn't really important to me anyway, and I don't know what the benefit would be for the evil cabal to really need to convince people of this, like if the Earth is a globe or not, what difference does it make?

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                                      reel
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                                      If communism was fully implemented in a nation no one would ever go hungry and it would prosper technologically and more love would be among the citizens as less people are outcasts, as long as the nation functions with its economy.

                                      The idea of no one going hungry reminds me of UAE. They probably even don't know what homeless means. They don't have communism, but prince government. A patriotic leader is what a nation needs to keep poverty and hunger at bay. Every system of government is bound to fail in the hands of corrupted people. Doesn't matter if it is democracy or socialism.

                                      Some kind of gravity exists or otherwise you would not be sucked towards the Earth's ground whenever you jump but bump your head in the ceiling of that theory of yours.

                                      Magnetism exists because the Earth contains a magnetic field which various apparatus can measure.

                                      I agree. It can be possible that whatever the thing is (aka gravity) did not get a proper explanation for which some phd people have began questioning its authenticity.

                                      Then we also can ask ourselves what it is we see in telescopes when you behold planets and galaxies. Is it large video screens showing prerecorded material?

                                      Thats the reason why I am not convinced about flat earth theory.
                                      https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hAOP6Dnrl8

                                      It's much better to spent the effort to solve the following

                                      • How to make space travel efficient and low cost
                                      • How to travel to another solar system or galaxy efficiently

                                      Agree!

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                                        FreedomStands
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                                        Thank you dear God, my brains did a nice worked after reading this thread.

                                        Greetings from The Netherlands. May God increase our Knowledge.

                                        Peace.

                                        That is a pretty display picture you have there, do you have a link to a larger version?

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                                          FreedomStands
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                                          Peace All.

                                          I cannot make out whether this is serious or a joke.

                                          How can we prove the earth is whatever shape it is?

                                          Do you think internet links can ever be a "proof"? Is this not what everyone is doing?

                                          For example

                                          http//www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae535.cfm

                                          Have I proved to you the earth is spherical?

                                          No?

                                          Then I give up. By the way I have nothing to do with the "Illuminati"!!! What goes around comes around,perhaps it is round.

                                          GOD bless you all.
                                          Peace.

                                          I'm a top notch Illuminatus and I say the Earth is muddy and very wet!

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