Time To Change Your Paradigm
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If there are no satellites, where are owners of satellite TV equipment aiming their discs?
If one knows the technology they know the LNB receives microwaves from the satellite which are reflected by the disc and unto the LNB receptor area. If there are no satellites it means they magically receive satellite TV out of the blue.
And it is not possible to talk that away by saying it is deception because many people know the technology and how it works and I know it briefly myself. They are not receiving a signal from the Earth's surface because it is a logically impossibility because the reflector area is clearly facing the skies.
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Hail freedomstands,
Trust me. If you had my interpretation and translation, and in your right mind, you would not look for another, after I finish it.
Right now it is a long way to go I have only finished a part of chapter 2 and chapter 36 and I have to edit the translation so it sounds more fluent because right now the word order is very Arabic thus literal and English does not feel very coherent to read that way.
Be well
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All Flat-Earth believers So what do you think about Felix Baumgartner that jumped at a 128k feet? The planet obviously looks round https//youtu.be/7f-K-XnHi9I?t=1m15s
Here is a better footage
https//youtu.be/ZyIVaZXDhho?t=5m8s
https//youtu.be/FHtvDA0W34I?t=50s
I really don't understand how people can still believe in the flat Earth myth. Even if NASA was lying about what it does other space agencies would be the first to report that. NASA isn't the only space agency that exists. The Russians have one too and so do probaly the Indians. And then you have the European space agency. The point is? Even if NASA was lying it would not be able to get away with it. I'm 100% sure that NASA is NOT lying about anything. Everything it says is TRUE. You can't lie about these things.
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Hail freedomstands,
Trust me. If you had my interpretation and translation, and in your right mind, you would not look for another, after I finish it.
Right now it is a long way to go I have only finished a part of chapter 2 and chapter 36 and I have to edit the translation so it sounds more fluent because right now the word order is very Arabic thus literal and English does not feel very coherent to read that way.
Be well
Sounds good, I'm glad you're working on it at least!
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@FS, plz don't F. quote me while I'm still editing!
Further, What is this supposed to mean!?
Why would I rely on others' "translations" when I can read the original language myself!?
Because it appears that the concept of "spread out" seems to be prevalent and that it seems unnecessary to insist that the only possible meaning of that verse is that the Earth is a flat disc.
I didn't know you were editing, but how would I have even known you were editing? Does it say somewhere? I just saw the post and replied to it, the quote was automatic or whatever and I didn't remove it. Please let me know if there are some tips to know if you're editing or not once you have posted.
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Because it appears that the concept of "spread out" seems to be prevalent and that it seems unnecessary to insist that the only possible meaning of that verse is that the Earth is a flat disc.
I didn't know you were editing, but how would I have even known you were editing? Does it say somewhere? I just saw the post and replied to it, the quote was automatic or whatever and I didn't remove it. Please let me know if there are some tips to know if you're editing or not once you have posted.
You could have just copypasted your link (beneath my post) ~ no need to quote/reduplicate (for no reason)!
That said, I am truly NOT interested in wasting my time confuting your fallacies. So, plz keep your distance. -
You could have just copypasted your link (beneath my post) ~ no need to quote/reduplicate (for no reason)!
That said, I am truly NOT interested in wasting my time confuting your fallacies. So, plz keep your distance.I'm in Vancouver, is that far from where you are? Maybe not too far if the Earth is also fold-able.
Please do let me know though, with a loudspeaker if possible due to my great distance that I am to keep, what fallacies I might make in order that I might correct myself. It is your duty, isn't it, according to the Qur'an to help me out where possible? I do claim to be a fellow Muslim Hanif like you. I never said the Earth was round or the Earth was flat, I just pointed out that many people refer to the meaning of that verse as "spread out" whereas the Earth as it appears to us visually is not literally flat or level but does appear spread out and vast at least. As for a specific "flat" disc shape, I don't know, this is maybe some of the only times I've heard of such a thing and the Qur'an didn't seem to say anything so specific anyway, which is what I was trying to point out.
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I can't see how anything spread out, stops being spread out if the surface at a big scale turns out to be curved. A hammock is curved but still it is spread out. And seen from a human point of view of human size scale anything one can manage in normal life if it has any curvature it is so wide that for all purposes, acept for thos exacting very minute precision flat.
And so that nobody should be offended, I am not making fun of anybody and would not in any case want to. We are all entitled to get at things the way we see most proper and differences are not harmful but arrogance is, and for sure this question gives rise to examine things more closely and attentively and not to take anything for granted because so and so says so or most people say so or whoever says so.
On the other hand, it would not be very surprising that NSA would be hiding something and others got along for their own reasons, if they are not altogether.
Salaam
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O Collectivity? of Coverts? and Overts?
if ye should be able to escape from the confines of the heavens and the earth, then escape.
Ye shall not breakout,
save by sanction
CU
Sreh
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? or, Society
? ie. Privateers
? ie. Commoners, aka. the Public.
ie. the borders or boundaries
lit. except with an authorization.Will they not then look
at the camelus how was it proportioned?
And/or, at the sky how was it lifted?
And/or, at the mountains how were they erected?
And/or, at the earth how was it flattened?
CU
Sreh
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The Qurnic vb. st (ت stems from the Arabian, emitic root s/ () which can denote Flattening!
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All Flat-Earth believers So what do you think about Felix Baumgartner that jumped at a 128k feet? The planet obviously looks round https//youtu.be/7f-K-XnHi9I?t=1m15s
Here is a better footage
https//youtu.be/ZyIVaZXDhho?t=5m8s
https//youtu.be/FHtvDA0W34I?t=50s
I really don't understand how people can still believe in the flat Earth myth. Even if NASA was lying about what it does other space agencies would be the first to report that. NASA isn't the only space agency that exists. The Russians have one too and so do probaly the Indians. And then you have the European space agency. The point is? Even if NASA was lying it would not be able to get away with it. I'm 100% sure that NASA is NOT lying about anything. Everything it says is TRUE. You can't lie about these things.
Brother, the video you linked was captured by fish eye lens. It was a GOPRO camera.Please google it to see its lens type.
http//imageshack.com/a/img661/125/gNUe1W.pngnow see this.
http//imageshack.com/a/img912/2881/xlZ4Oi.pngDepending on these images you are saying that we are at wrong side?
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Salam brother, nice finding.keep going.
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Brother, the video you linked was captured by fish eye lens. It was a GOPRO camera.Please google it to see its lens type.
http//imageshack.com/a/img661/125/gNUe1W.pngnow see this.
http//imageshack.com/a/img912/2881/xlZ4Oi.pngDepending on these images you are saying that we are at wrong side?
Sorry bro but I really don't understand your point. The screenshots you posted proves that the Earth is indeed round. Looking at it from different angles will not change that fact. Watch the entire video- There are no cuts only the entire video running clearly showing how the planet is NOT flat. Cherry-picking, i.e. screenshoting some clips is honestly a bad id?a. Earth never changed shape in the second image. He is looking at it from a different angle.
I have noticed that some hate NASA. NASA has actually contributed more to Earth than teh religious. The technologies created and developed by NASA
https//spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2008/tech_benefits.html
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologiesCompare the technologies created and developed by NASA to the religious. NASA is not lying anywhere and its contributions are real and well acknowledged.
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What is the point in proving that the world is flat or round?
Focus on helping yourselves instead by doing good deeds and getting the animal you out of yourselves.
The world whether round or flat, or a disc, is just an illusion made of energy and part of a program for GOD to wait until the sprouts have fully grown to reap those of good quality and discard the rest. It is a sifting process, so show the better part of yourselves and enhance the spirit and get rid of some baggage that you can pass through "The Door", narrow as it can be. Only light - weight passengers are allowed to embark on the bus. The meshes of that sifter are very fine you know.
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Sorry bro but I really don't understand your point. The screenshots you posted proves that the Earth is indeed round. Looking at it from different angles will not change that fact. Watch the entire video- There are no cuts only the entire video running clearly showing how the planet is NOT flat. Cherry-picking, i.e. screenshoting some clips is honestly a bad id?a. Earth never changed shape in the second image. He is looking at it from a different angle.
I have noticed that some hate NASA. NASA has actually contributed more to Earth than teh religious. The technologies created and developed by NASA
https//spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2008/tech_benefits.html
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologiesCompare the technologies created and developed by NASA to the religious. NASA is not lying anywhere and its contributions are real and well acknowledged.
This is not so hard to understand. The fact is in front of your eyes. The round or spherical view that you are seeing highly depend on the lens.Brother,free your mind from preconceived idea and watch that video carefully. You will get the truth.Then what about NASA's fake moon landing drama? Do you really think that man stepped on moon as NASA stated?
Here is a non-NASA video clip.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnzUgKZ8m2kI cropped images to highlighted the lens fact. There is no dis-info in above images.
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Will they not then look
at the camelus how was it proportioned?
And/or, at the sky how was it lifted?
And/or, at the mountains how were they erected?
And/or, at the earth how was it flattened?
CU
Sreh
8817-20This verse can also mean, that the earth is round, but again so flat like most of the people believe except for the one who don't. Which is indeed a miracle. Because imagine yourself walking on a sphere.
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What is the point in proving that the world is flat or round?
What can I say? Only 1.5 billion so called Muslims are practicing wrong Islam so it become our headache,and we open forum to enlighten them. And while 7 billion out there are being deceived, you my wise brother asking "What is the point in proving that the world is flat or round?"
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This is not so hard to understand. The fact is in front of your eyes. The round or spherical view that you are seeing highly depend on the lens.Brother,free your mind from preconceived idea and watch that video carefully. You will get the truth.Then what about NASA's fake moon landing drama? Do you really think that man stepped on moon as NASA stated?
Here is a non-NASA video clip.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnzUgKZ8m2kI cropped images to highlighted the lens fact. There is no dis-info in above images.
Please use logic thinking. If the planet was flat he would be the first to see it given the fact that hes helmet that doesn't have a 'fisheye lens' and therefor this would have been exposed a long time ago. The camera does not really change anything. One can still notice that the planet is ROUND with or without the fisheye lens.
Brother,free your mind from preconceived idea and watch that video carefully.
Ok Jesus I will free my mind from the 'preconceived idea'.
Then what about NASA's fake moon landing drama? Do you really think that man stepped on moon as NASA stated?
Oh dear, you're right. It is Illuminati. Everything NASA says or do is fake. That includes its contributions. Yes FYI I do believe in the moon landing as well as the big bang. Russia, China, India and the European countries run their own space agencies. NASA is not the only space agency. The point is? Even if NASA was lying as you keep claiming it would have been leaked out a long time ago especially given the fact that Russia nor China likes the US. Criticism to NASA mostly comes from the primitive religious that do not contribute anything to planet Earth.
The Americans haven't been the only ones who visit space. The Russians have been great at this too. Muhammed Faris flew as a Research Cosmonaut in the Interkosmos program on Soyuz TM-3 to the Mir space station in July 1987, spending 7 days 23 hours and 5 minutes in space. He did not mention anything about a flat Earth. No austronat has whether it be from the Russian side or the US side who both still hate each other ever since the Cold War. The ones who are spreading this misinformation is you and many other religious.
Even Muslims never complained
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_astronauts