Time To Change Your Paradigm
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Round earth,gravity,mission mars,cosmic swim,moon landing,sun's distance,its perimeter everything work absolutely fine as long as we bow our head(way of thinking) before them
Peace, neion.
I agree. They have to invent theoretical concepts in order to pass their deception on the world. They invented "gravity" to explain how the water of the ocean can curve and stay together at the "bottom of the globe". So they made us believe in this theoretical force from the Earth which pulls objects towards it, and called it gravity.
When you lift up an object and release it from a height, it falls because of its own mass and density with respect to the air around it. The force that makes it fall is within the object itself, not in the Earth.
No one is denying science, nor technology, nor the benefits (and harms) they have done to humanity. But when you use your knowledge of real, empirical science (which can be verified using simple means) to deviantly sneak in pseudo-science (which relies on optical tricks and theoretical concepts) that's a totally different issue.
Regards.
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When you lift up an object and release it from a height, it falls because of its own mass and density with respect to the air around it. The force that makes it fall is within the object itself, not in the Earth.
Sir,
Objects that have mass, why do they fall at all?
Mass is not same as weight. Mass is just a heap of molecules. Why would everything that has mass (all objects, including air) move on their own? And why would they choose the same direction (downward as we see it)?Density is not really a factor here. The density just determines the "priority" in falling downward. Denser things have more "power" to fall downward than less dense objects. This is why a mixture of air "has priority" to be as low as possible (closer to ground) than e.g. a region of helium (contained in a balloon. That helium has less density than air is just because helium atoms are lighter than the atoms that make up air. One balloon of helium has less mass than one balloon of air, and thus less density.)
What sort of force are you referring to that is intrinsic to all objects (all mass)? Isn't this force more mysterious than even gravity? If we have an attractive force that acts between centers of mass (e.g. a spherical Earth and an apple), at least there is no question about the direction of this force (gravity), but if all apples have individual forces, how come they are all directed in exactly the same direction?
What is a force anyway? It's a relationship... something that connects.... an interaction. Forces are known through their effect. If the "downward force intrinsic to apples" actually originated and emanated from the apple, what is it acting on? Itself? A force just sitting in one place hiding, makes no difference or action. A force acts of something.
Isn't it that the word gravity is rejected for the very reason that it supports (or at least is used to support and explain) a spherical Earth? Isn't it a bit like sunnis first celebrating the 19 code as a miracle of the Quran, and then vehemently rejecting it when it turned out it is used to show how false hadith and sunna is as divine instruction? I mean, apples DO fall to the ground. SOMETHING makes them fall to the ground, and it has to be a force acting on BOTH the apple and something else, whether it be the center of the Earth mass (in the spherical model), or something else (in the flat Earth model). Perhaps it is not so much about gravity itself, or code 19, but rather their implications.
Peace
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Sir,
No need to use such titles.
Please read this
http//ncse.com/rncse/27/5-6/gravity-its-only-theory
Gravity is a theory. Mass is reality.
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NASA has a huge contribution in science.So we should believe every word they say. P what a saying. I am not a NASA hater. I hate the bullshit they utter. Cristian missionary doing some good work in poor countries.So should we believe that Jesus is the son of GOD?
Given the fact that Christian missionaries are a disease and that they don't contribute anything of value to the poor countries but infact ruin them there is no reason to believe any words they say especially when their religion is bullshit were there is no evidence of their Jesus. I never said that you should believe every word NASA says because of their contributions however if you hate NASA then why enjoy their inventions? But you stated that you don't so I understand. It seemed like some people actually hates NASA mostly because its findings contradict their religion or traditions. The fact remains that NASA has contributed more to planet Earth than the religious. I'm glad that you admit that NASA (assuming you did) is a huge contributer to science. I really don't understand how you can still believe in the flat Earth myth given the fact that others space agencies (Not only NASA) have acknowledged that it is a myth. The Muslim austronats (Both from the side of the Soviet and the US) never complained
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_astronauts
Muhammed Faris flew as a Research Cosmonaut in the Interkosmos program on Soyuz TM-3 to the Mir space station in July 1987, spending 7 days 23 hours and 5 minutes in space. He did not mention anything about a flat Earth. No austronat has whether it be from the Russian side or the US side who both still hate each other ever since the Cold War. The ones who are spreading this misinformation is you and many other religious. If NASA was lying (especially on this) as you keep claiming it would have been leaked out a long time ago especially given the fact that Russians have a space agency too and so do the Indians. And then you have the European space agency. The Chinese have one as well.
Most videos that tries to 'expose' NASAs videos are often uploaded by Christian apologists whom makes no sense at all. It is one of the reasons to why I do not take these videos seriously. Their religion has already been knockedout by science. Religious people like these will always be primitive. There is no contribution they themselves have brought to Earth. They think their religion which has caused many dead is a 'contribution'. Until then they will remain primitive.
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No need to use such titles.
Please read this
http//ncse.com/rncse/27/5-6/gravity-its-only-theory
Gravity is a theory. Mass is reality.
Brother,
Ok I read it.
This blog also says that Round Earth people have great problems explaining why airplanes can fly. Really? Is the existence of air molecules fake? Does something with wings fly better, same or worse that something without wings? They operate under the same circumstances. What ha this to do with gravity? Anyhow.
"There is, indeed, evidence that the Theory of Gravity is having a grave effect on morality. Activist judges and left-leaning teachers often use the phrase "what goes up must come down" as a way of describing gravity, and relativists have been quick to apply this to moral standards and common decency."
This above quote smells like emotional religious propaganda, using generalizations and stereotypes to issue moral judgement. Where's the science? Anyhow.
I'm still confused as to what exactly it is that is being rejected here (when talking about gravity).
I hope people are not rejecting the fact that apples do fall to the ground. They do!
Why use the fringe application of the theory of gravity to dismiss all about gravity? This is not about judging gravity as a package. Of course, there are so many things in science that we don't understand, but why reject an entire concept?According to flat Earth theory, what makes apples fall to the ground?
Does the flat Earth theory say that there is something that dictates what is up and what is down? It must be some sort of force. Is there a name for the phenomenon of things falling to the ground?Peace
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If mass determines why an object falls to the ground, what makes the objects falling down accelerate with increasing velocity? There is obviously a force acting on the falling object, pulling it back towards the ground even when there is air resistance.
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There is, indeed, evidence that the Theory of Gravity is having a grave effect on morality.
There is, indeed. At least since 1993.
What I don't understand is that for these "occult leaders" to maintain such a deception at such a scale, almost the entire world would've had to be involved. It's kinda crazy, anything whatsoever that disallows the flat earth to retain it's graceful pancake shape is thrown out as lies. Weird motivations are built up to explain these lies that quite frankly are offensive to anyone's intelligence. No one is denying that governments and people lie, they lie quite often, but for pity's sake...to consider a conspiracy on a global scale, which this is, at least present coherent, realistic, and quality evidence. One thing at a time. Not a sudden deluge of everyone being wrong, lying, brainwashed or a reptilian shapeshifter.
Instead we have things like phantom flights (even when people actually used them), eyes playing tricks on all, shoddy cameras, illusions, mirages, all science being wrong that denies it and only the science that maintains it is right (ironically), lies, military surrounding the entire earth (heck even the crows could hardly maintain a small area of the ice wall which was way more realistic than this), occult overlords and earth domination. And that's just a teaser apparently. Hardly good enough to be taken seriously even if one were to put aside all that they know and jump on this bandwagon heading into the icy expanse to nowhere.
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Where in the Qurn does it say G-D made the earth a "sphere"!?
What question is that?
It's like questioning why the Quran doesn't tell us that a sphere is a sphere.. brickwall
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YzeGRFDIms
Did you already watch the vid that debunks your theory dear brother?
Well done flat earthers having an open mind btw...
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Peace Pazuzu.
2788 is in the present tense. just like 2782 and 27 86 before it,these verses are dealing with now. There is a mix in this sura of present and future "verses" that deal with now "this life" and the future "next life".
Go back brother and read from 2776 ( This Qoran settles many issues for Beni Israeel ( and everyone else),issues that are still disputing."
Up to 2793( And say Praise be to GOD, He ( No gender..) will show you His proofs/ayaats... until you recognise them. Your Lord is never unaware of anything you do.)
Like I said before ,pasting biased links one way or the other is never proof .
Come on brother, it is easy to find out what shape the earth is!!!!!. We can climb to a decent enough height using our present technology and see it, clear and simple for all to see.
We do not even need reasoning or intelligence or debate. A simple go and see for yourself is enough.
Some have reached "our mind is made up" state. A dangerous state indeed.
As for the distance of the sun from the earth, brother ,if it was the distance you claim,everyone and everything would have burned alive!!!!!!
I am just amazed at your claims brother, no offence intended. I expected better evidence from you.
GOD bless you.
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https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Asian_national_space_programs
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Ye cherish what the Maj. believes because it gives you a (false) sense of security ...
Even though ye know you've been conditioned (since childhood), and ye know ye are getting your strings pulled (by your furtive masters, & their minions) still, YOU'VE GOT NO BALLS TO FACE IT!
Ye (dumb sheeple) have lost track,
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I already pointed out the different seasons of theyear in both hemispheres south and north.
Also the thing about the phenomenon of bodies standing on earth and not suspended or flying sideways or up and down on all the earth's surface. There is something that makes them stick to the surface and stay put there unless something is done to make them move in any way. If the earth is flat then it must have something like a magnet to make them stick to the ground all over any point on the surface. It is logical if it is a more or less spheric body that bdies would stick to the surface equeally on all points of it. But on a flat slice all of it should be able to bring down all objects to any point of it ssurface what is it? Mass can exist as much in mid air as in mid earth, what makes them fall and stick to the ground, and in water to go down if they wieght more than water. Resistance of water should be the same going upwards as going downwards or to the sides.
Salaam
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YOU'VE GOT NO BALLS TO FACE IT!
Nothing wrong with being feminine. I'd advise you however to keep further talk about balls and sheeple to the sport and agricultural/recipe threads respectively. Unless there is a combined thread dealing with both. And if there isn't, there should be. Many thanks. -
Nothing wrong with being feminine.
How about cowardice?
Is global cowardice all right!?
I'd advise you however to keep further talk about balls and sheeple to the sport and agricultural/recipe threads respectively. dealing with both. And if there isn't, there should be. Many thanks.
Keep your (silly/biased) advice to yourself.
I didn't insult a specific person! I'm criticizing the Majority (for their ad populum).
If you cannot tolerate me expressing my personal view/s then, be my guest and ban me!
Ye cherish what the Maj. believes because it gives you a (false) sense of security ...
Even though ye know you've been conditioned (since childhood), and ye know ye are getting your strings pulled (by your furtive masters, & their minions) still, YOU'VE GOT NO BALLS TO FACE IT! Ye (dumb sheeple) have lost track, for ye are worse astray than cattle (2544)!Where in the Qurn does it say G-D made the earth a "sphere"!?
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To summarize and where this eventually seems to lead to is the understanding among flat earth adherents that you disbelieve in God if you think that the earth is not flat and you follow the devils/occults by way of adhering to the theory that the earth is not a flat plane. And so the entire basis of salvation and acceptance of you in God's eyes is the flat vs sphere theory - at least that's what it appears to be from what I have been reading here so far.
In my humble opinion, we are completely deluded by arguing about this anyway. The Quran stresses believing in The All-Mighty and the day of judgement and to do good to mankind.
This whole flat vs sphere vs egg vs cylindrical nonsense is only creating a divide between believers even when it is a non-issue.
The Quran stresses morality, that is a big issue, why is everyone keen to argue over something that has no basis in morality?
If the earth is flat so it's flat, if it's spherical, so it's spherical, if it's egg shaped - so be it, I personally have no problem with it being whatever, because it does not make any difference to what real issues are.
This is like the 19 code thing all over again where you are guided if you accept Dr Khalifa and his claims, and you are a kaffir or infidel or disbeliever if you don't.
Salaam,
That's interesting.
Thank you.
Peace.
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So flat vs sphere has become a matter of identity. Too much emotions... like in politics, religion, nationalism and sports. Science-Objectivity has left the building, and Indentity-Emotion has taken over.
It would be nice if both the Flat side as well as the Sphere side of the debate would compile a list of say 10 questions that the opposing camp would answer. Like "How do you explain xyz". It'd be nice for a comparison. Then everyone can judge for themselves on a limited number of issues.
Peace
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How about cowardice?
Is global cowardice all right!?
Yes that's right, you can sit there proclaiming you're lugging the biggest virtual e-spheres around all day, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, when the sun goes down over that horizon, and it's light somewhere else in the world because the globular earth is spinning around on its axis, it just looks really whiny..."I'm right and everyone else is a brainwashed coward afraid to face the truth because they can't handle the truth"...but then again, don't think you care how it comes across, you're too busy believing you've got the truth figured out, good luck with thatKeep your (silly/biased) advice to yourself.
Let's do the Hicham9 no, no you keep your silly biased opinions to yourself.I didn't insult a specific person! I'm criticizing the Majority (for their ad populum).
Of course, whoever falls in that category would include a good chunk of the people here so...what's your point?If you cannot tolerate me expressing my personal view/s then, be my guest and ban me!
If only you could keep it to your personal opinions and not extend your abrasive attitude like the suns shadow at 4 in the afternoon while the globular earth is spinning on it's axis causing said effect in conjunction with the big ball of fire in the sky...it would be amazingly beneficial to your tenure on this forum. You do want to make friends don't you? The flat earth journey is long and never ending apparently, don't go alone.