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Nearness and Guidance -> Knowledge and Wisdom = Peace and Prosperity

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    Man_of_Faith
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    Hail to you all,

    I have been studying chapter 36 traditionally referred to as Ya-Siin and made a full reinterpretation over a few days and made astonishing discoveries. First of all, the traditional translations are not even close to what the real interpretation says. It is not fair to the original Arabic text even remotely. I have a very literal translation made at this time which I will refine and publish extracts from.

    The chapter covers

    Several parables which are present in the Bible
    The name of Isaiah in 3620
    A famous saying of Isaiah about that if one sins they will face of adversity to the equal magnitude of the sin
    That we are part of a "sifting" process
    That we are in symbiosis with the Sustainer (Rabb) if we become perfected
    Similar teachings that Jesus uttered
    That we currently are in the progress of fulfilling an old prophecy by Isaiah when "The Compilation" (as GOD puts it) will be orderly perserved.

    Be well

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      good_logic
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      Peace Man Of Faith.

      The word " " is a verb in 3620 .It is not a name?

      There is a similar word in 2820

      It is not "Isaiah".

      GOD bless you.
      Peace.

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        Man_of_Faith
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        It is a name. Isaiah is spelled like that in Arabic. Semitic tradition names can both be standard words of the language and names, hence why it may be difficult to recognize if it is a proper name or a normal word, if you are unfamiliar or unskilled at deciphering the passages.

        If you use diacritical markers to recognize if it is a name I have to disappoint you that those are not native with the original manuscript.

        Isaiah's name is hidden in the context of an extremely poorly interpreted text which makes me disappointed with how deluded people are.

        Straight after the word is mentioned a famous quote of Isaiah is written out talking about sins and that the consequence is exposure to something of the same proportion.

        Obviously you miss out on that if you read it with the mainstream knowledge and perception of Arabic. Are you going to argue about such then you can have your perception and I have mine.

        Even if theoretically was not Isaiah's name it is pronounced the same way as in Semitic ancestry which is quite peculiar.

        The word is mentioned six times in Quran.

        It is also strange that the famous and important figure Isaiah was not to be mentioned in Quran considered he prophesied the coming of multiple prophets including Jesus, John, and an unknown prophet. Well, now you have the answer, if your mind is receptive enough to absorb it.

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          good_logic
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          Peace Man Of Faith.

          Are you serious?

          And you want us to read your threads and benefit from your research?

          I was trying to help you see your error.
          I give up.

          Carry on then with your own made up,wrong translation.

          GOD bless you.
          Peace.

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            Man_of_Faith
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            I am serious and it is you and the rest of deluded who are wrong and I cannot but pitying you for not perceiving it. You cannot get me discouraged and stop my work you know, but I feel sorry for you living in an interpretation that deluded people alluded totally. And you say you want to help me. Help yourself.

            You are living the Pagan delusion.

            is Isaiah and the qoute straight after is his saying.

            Perhaps you do not benefit from my research, but perhaps someone with a receptive mind will. Anyway I deem that my work will be more convincing now that I am getting versed with the real Arabic language of Quran.

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              FreedomStands
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              I am serious and it is you and the rest of deluded who are wrong and I cannot but pitying you for not perceiving it. You cannot get me discouraged and stop my work you know, but I feel sorry for you living in an interpretation that deluded people alluded totally. And you say you want to help me. Help yourself.

              You are living the Pagan delusion.

              is Isaiah and the qoute straight after is his saying.

              Perhaps you do not benefit from my research, but perhaps someone with a receptive mind will. Anyway I deem that my work will be more convincing now that I am getting versed with the real Arabic language of Quran.

              I wouldn't want you to stop your work, I think it will make a really great contribution.

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                Man_of_Faith
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                Freedomstands,

                If you only knew.

                Quran was revealed by an unknown prophet who wrote it and it has not been properly deciphered until now except that a bunch of deluded sectarians have tried, not caring for more than "validating" their deluded doctrine in an innocent context inventing phenomena such as salat as a ritual prayer etc for it was already in use by the sects so it had to be forced to confirm it.

                Deciphering it properly is a tedious work but not impossible (nothing is impossible except for the weak-minded) and the correct definitions are already in ancient Arabic definitions albeit corrupted to signify that Arabic words have multiple meanings while an Arabic word has only one general meaning due to that it speaks out from its combination of letters.

                Salat, for example, means to consciously follow something and in ancient lexicons there are examples with horse races and this is exactly what the word means, i.e. to follow.

                Be well

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                  good_logic
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                  Peace Man Of Faith.

                  Look brother if you are saying " "in 3620 means Isaiah, then "" in 2820 also means Isaiah.

                  This is not possible anyway since 2820 is dealing with Moses, Isaiah did not exist then?!!!.

                  But I am fine with you accepting whatever you wish. Why would I want to stop you anyway.

                  Brother ,carry on,but use the same reasoning with yourself as you would want others to use for you.

                  Would you want us to accept the truth,but you are exempt?

                  GOD bless you.
                  Peace.

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                    unknownuser
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                    His work will be interesting though, correct or not. To every person's mind, his own thinking is correct. I say it will be interesting because we will have another piece of work that can be compared to existing work, and then we should follow the best of them~.

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                      good_logic
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                      Peace AW.

                      I agree.

                      Everyone contributes .

                      We learn from one another.
                      GOD bless you.
                      Peace.

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                        Man_of_Faith
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                        I will go to that passage in time and look at it, but the same phrase is used saying Al-madinateh Jes'aia marking "The community of Isaiha" as far as I have been able to decipher the language. It is likely a reference that they utter like those said in the community of Isaiah.

                        The answer could be simple because Moses never slayed a man since qat-ta-lam does not mean slay or kill but to master/defeat which does not in itself mean kill l but more that you subdued the one you contest with and it can be both verbal and physical. Q-t-l can thus mean you are in a verbal conflict with someone and master this debate and persuade them thus defeating them in debate or simply defeating their arguments so that the crowds will walk your line.

                        It is only the account of the Bible and the worthless interpretation of Quran that says Moses kill a man. Josepheus, a prehistoric historian, mentions a completely different story to the event. And my ability to decipher the Arabic text has revealed that Moses tried to defeat his opponents arguments when they conspired against him and his claimed prophethood. Moses was then forced on the run due to persecution, met the two women at the well, married one of then, worked for the father-in-law for several years, and when he was free he met with the light of GOD who taught him things and strengthened his self-estem and because Aaron (Harun) was skilled with his tongue and influential in their community GOD also made Aaron enlightened with the same as Moses knew.

                        When he returned he could convince the Bani Israel that he indeed was a prophet and avert the plot against his life. After gaining support he opposed Pharaoh.

                        To retell more of the true account I need to get into those passages of Quran on my reinterpretation project.

                        I understand your objection since Isaiah did not live before Moses so it sounds strange, but the text could also make a parallel to Isaiah since Quran is a teaching book with many parables. It also appears that Quran takes it that the community of Isaiah were great sinners, but not as much as in this era.

                        However in 3620 it is very clear that it refers to the famous prophet Isaiah as per my interpretation work.

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