Time To Change Your Paradigm
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Where in the Qoran does it say the earth is a sphere?
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He made the earth egg-shaped.*The key word in the above verse is dahaha. In Arabic, there is a phrase, idha dahaha which means when he throws the stones over the ground to the hole. The hole is called Udhiyatun. Almadahi signify round stones according to the size of which a hole is dug in the ground in which the stones are thrown in a game. Almadahi also signify a round thing made of lead by the throwing of which persons contend together. So there is a signification of ROUNDNESS in the root of the word dahaha. According to some etymologists, the word for the egg of an ostrich also has the same root as dahaha. They also take from this that the earth is of the shape of the egg of an ostrich. Latest science findings confirm that the earth is not exactly spherical but the earth is an ellipsoid, i.e. flattened by its poles,.
Nice try @GL
Too bad the emitic, verbal root dy/e/a (ى confirms a flattened earth!
At least you tried!
But There is not a single place in Qoran where there is any indication of the earth being flat or straight shaped. The word faraash in 222, 5148; the word wasia in 497, 2956, 3010; the word mahd in 2053, 4310, 786; the word basaat in 7119; the word suttihat in 8820; and the word tahaaha in 916, all may mean, , to expand " Habitable"or to extend ...with slight differences in their connotations but none signify the earth being straight-shaped or flat.
I don't buy it.
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I think the number of "flat earthers" is increasing pretty fast. Praise be to Allah. )
I like this quote THE TRUTH CANNOT BE STOPPEDRather than turning this discussion into worthless "believe bashing" and "name calling" let's turned this into beneficial cultural and historical discussion.
"Flat Earther" used to be the majority on this earth..
A millennium ago all people in the "Central Country" (Chinese Zhong Guo), which constitute among the 'majority' on this planet due to their high population, think that the universe is something like this.http//i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--MHwhtgYj--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18myou0kz7ujejpg.jpg
The 'center' of the world is NOT located in Yemen but... yep you guessed it... China..
That's why they refer to their own country as "Central Country" (Zhong Guo)
The center of everything.."Heaven takes its body from the Yang, so it is round and in motion. Earth takes its body from the Yin, so it is flat and quiescent"
--Zhang HengFrom the "Central Country".. the belief of "Flat World sitting on a moving giant turtle" quickly spread to the entire world... to India... Aztecs and other central american kingdom.... Persia, Egypt, Greek and Roman.
Thus it was quickly become the belief of the majority..Although they made a mistake on the 'shape of the earth' but they did made a correct prediction regarding the shape of the heaven..
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Peace Hicham 9
Brother, I was hoping the previous post would be my last one in this thread, but never mind I try once more?
Linguistic evidence to the "dahu" (egg-shapping) of the Earth
The "dahu" in the Arabic Language means to extend and even out. It is said "daha" the thing; "yad'hu dahwan". These terms can mean he either evened out and extended it or he threw it and rolled it. It is also said "the rain daha the stones from the face of the earth," which means it rolled it and washed it away. It is also said "The horse passed by yad'hu dahwan," which means he is beating his foot on the ground and yad'hu its sand. Also, the ostrich's mad'hi means its laying of its eggs, and "ad'hiha" is the nest where its chicks are born.
So as we clearly see, all of the above Arabic words that are derived from "daha" mean
1- To extend.
2- To roll.
3- To even out.
4- Causing to become egg-shaped or creating, making or producing eggs (see the ostrich's mad'hi example above).
All of these meanings perfectly apply to our planet Earth and the stages that it went through!
Also, due to the tidal gravitational pulls, the earth bulged and became EGG-SHAPED before its impact with the iron-rich asteroid that was sent down to it, and collided with it and formed our earth's iron core. And the tidal gravitational pulls do also contribute to the shaping of our earth today, it is egg-shaped
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Brother,the Glorious Qoran declares that the earth is
1- Spherical.
2- Suspended in Space.
3- Rotating around itself. (emphasis on dahaha and its derivatives)
4- Is traveling in Space.5- Also, all celestial bodies are Yaa'rujoon (traveling in orbits) in space. The countless orbits in the Universe, and the day-layer reveals the sun's brightness.
Verses 325, 342, 574, 703-4 and others, and the Arabic words , , and that all refer to "going in an orbital and curvy path" of these spherical "Kawkabs". .According to
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Lisan Al-Arab dictionary , Book 2, Pages 215-218.
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Lisan Al-Arab dictionary , Book 8, Pages 236-238.
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Al-Muheet dictionary , Page 1179.
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Al-Muajam Al-Waseet dictionary , Pages 272-274.
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Al-Mawrid dictionary Arabic-English section , Page 537.
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Arabic-English dictionary the Hans Wehr dictionary , Page 273.
Daha means
(daha) (dafa'aahu wa ramaa bih) Caused it to move, pushed it, or threw it.
? (The Qoran, 378-9) And they're cast away from every side, repulsed, for they are under a perpetual penalty.? Daha the boy the rolling toy, means the boy pushed the rolling toy.
? (dahraja) to roll, roll along, to roll down.
GOD bless you.
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When you are revolving at an approximate speed of 1670 KM/h and fail to feel the spinning in your head,I think that's the ultimate stage of brainlessness.
Not to mention that we are hurtling through space at 67,000 miles per hour (that's 30 times times the speed of a rifle bullet)
And yet we have to resort to gymnastics to make this insane model somehow fit with the Quran.
It is the SUN and the MOON that move, causing the shifting of night and day. The Quran is clear on how the SUN follows its pre-programed path. All this is clearly described from the perspective of a stationary and flat earth.
There are a couple of events that took place in the 1950's which cannot be ascribed as being coincidence. These are the beginning of the end of our perceived reality.
@jafar.
Put your mockery aside, for once, and understand that the old legends are symbolic tales built on truth. For over 7000 years, humanity, in one shape or another, believed in the flat earth and the solid firmament above us. I will stick to what I can see, feel, and confirm with simple evidence + the clear Quranic hints, rather than take the word of some deluded magicians and pseudo-scientists who want to erase 7000 years of knowledge with one stroke of a pen. The signs of God do not need the theory of relativity nor rocket propulsion to be understood. They can be seen with the naked eye, and felt easily.
Go stand on top of a mountain, look at the horizon, and tell me if you see any curve in it, or if you feel youself spinning at 1000 mph and flying at 67,000 mph.
To hell with NASA and their deceptions.
Get this straight, once and for all no one goes to space. NO ONE.
Peace.
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Peace Hicham 9
Brother, I was hoping the previous post would be my last one in this thread, but never mind I try once more?
GOD bless you.
Peace.As I told you, waste of time,
you cannot challenge a belief system,
they have settled in their minds for a flat earth,
that's what they will believe,
unless a space agency takes them to the ISS for a tour,
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And here is for those who are not reasonable
Earth spins on its axis once in every 24-hour day. At Earth?s equator, the speed of Earth?s spin is about 1,000 miles per hour (1,600 kph). The day-night has carried you around in a grand circle under the stars every day of your life, and yet you don?t feel Earth spinning. Why not? It?s because you and everything else ? including Earth?s oceans and atmosphere ? are spinning along with the Earth at the same constant speed.
Think about riding in a car or flying in a plane. As long as the ride is going smoothly, you can almost convince yourself you?re not moving. A jumbo jet flies at about 500 miles per hour (about 800 km per hour), or about half as fast as the Earth spins at its equator. But, while you?re riding on that jet, if you close your eyes, you don?t feel like you?re moving at all. And when the flight attendant comes by and pours coffee into your cup, the coffee doesn?t fly to the back of the plane. That?s because the coffee, the cup and you are all moving at the same rate as the plane.
Now think about what would happen if the car or plane wasn?t moving at a constant rate, but instead speeding up and slowing down. Then, when the flight attendant poured your coffee ? look out!
Likewise, Earth is moving at a fixed rate, and we?re all moving along with it, and that?s why we don?t feel Earth?s spin. If Earth?s spin were suddenly to speed up or slow down, you would definitely feel it.
The constant spin of the Earth had our ancestors pretty confused about the true nature of the cosmos. They noticed that the stars, and the sun and the moon, all appeared to move above the Earth. Because they couldn?t feel Earth move, they logically interpreted this observation to mean that Earth was stationary and ?the heavens? moved above us.
With the notable exception of the early Greek scientist Aristarchus, who first proposed a heliocentric (sun-centered) model of the universe hundreds of years B.C.E., the world?s great thinkers upheld the geocentric (Earth-centered) idea of the cosmos for many centuries.
It wasn?t until the 16th Century that the heliocentric model of Copernicus began to be discussed and understood. While not without errors, Copernicus? model eventually convinced the world that Earth spun on its axis beneath the stars ? and also moved in orbit around the sun.
Bottom line Why don?t we feel Earth rotating, or spinning, on its axis? It?s because Earth spins steadily ? and moves at a constant rate in orbit around the sun ? carrying you as a passenger right along with it.
http//earthsky.org/earth/why-cant-we-feel-earths-spin
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As I told you, waste of time,
you cannot challenge a belief system,
they have settled in their minds for a flat earth,
that's what they will believe,
unless a space agency takes them to the ISS for a tour,
but why would they care to indulge deluded people?Have you ever seen the "ball earth" with your own eyes @theNabster!?
Or does it only exist in your head!?
Personally, I see a flat earth (with a fixed horizon) when I'm up in the sky!
http//3.bp.blogspot.com/-EWbfc34a1QY/UMjVn4UgRJI/AAAAAAAASMo/JClGf42ZfKY/s1600/IMG_0151.jpgAt what exact altitude does it become visually apparent that the Earth is a "sphere" @theNab!?
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Have you even seen the "ball earth" with your own eyes @theNabster!?
Or does it only exist in your head!?
Personally, I see a flat earth when I'm in the sky!
At what exact altitude does it become visually apparent that the Earth is a "sphere" @theNab!?
Why don't you find out for yourself, instead of making a fool of yourself.
The Earth is flat locally for a human observer, find out the distance needed to start seeing a curvature. You challenge a system and you don't provide decent mathematical proof, or evidence, the onus is on the one challenging, I am happy with the heliocentric theory as a decent map of the cosmos.
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Why don't you find out for yourself, instead of making a fool of yourself.
The Earth is flat locally for a human observer, find out the distance needed to start seeing a curvature. You challenge a system and you don't provide decent mathematical proof, or evidence, the onus is on the one challenging, I am happy with the heliocentric theory as a decent map of the cosmos.
Didn't think so either, Flat head.
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And here is for those who are not reasonable
http//earthsky.org/earth/why-cant-we-feel-earths-spin
Peace,
When you Ball earthers provide a link, that surprisingly become a jar of wisdom and reason.But ours are nothing but bullshit and full of nonsense. What a judgement! Bro, We don't have Stanley Kubrick or Carl P(s)agan to show you flat earth. As bro Hicham said,Go & explore.
Let me ask you a quest Does the plane that are flying also revolve with your ball earth? -
Peace,
When you Ball earthers provide a link, that surprisingly become a jar of wisdom and reason.But ours are nothing but bullshit and full of nonsense. What a judgement! Bro, We don't have Stanley Kubrick or Carl P(s)agan to show you flat earth. As bro Hicham said,Go & explore.
Let me ask you a quest Does the plane that are flying also revolve with your ball earth?And when you throw a ball inside a plane, does it fall down?
Have you heard of what pressurised means, we have an atmosphere, it is pressurised as the inside of a plane travelling in the air, our air is the space surrounding us, and our cabin is the earth with its atmosphere.
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Very worrying this flat earth business, this is why the Muslims remain backwards, they are very prone to crack pot theories, so long as they get tricked into thinking the Quran is for it
like the Ottomans not investing into Science, forbidding the Gutenberg press, because hadiths and Quran never described them, result, they lost their Empire.
What will you get from proving or disproving a flat or round earth, pray tell me?
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And when you throw a ball inside a plane, does it fall down?
Tried once,but they said its not allowed. P
Have you heard of what pressurised means, we have an atmosphere, it is pressurised as the inside of a plane travelling in the air, our air is the space surrounding us, and our cabin is the earth with its atmosphere.
Provide a one word answer Yes or Not.
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Provide a one word answer Yes or Not.
Reply to what?
The Earth is a Planet, it is not flat, its atmosphere is pressurised and that's what gives the impression it's stationary while it rotates on its axis, around the sun, and the sun around the centre of our galaxy, all expanding.
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Allah created everything, including our ability to understand some of what he allows us and asks us to understand,
this is how we live and progress, by marshalling what he has given us, then we die.
Well, you can choose to live in a cave, and forget about all the creatures' comfort afforded to you by science, engineering and technology, you still will need to feed and clothe yourself, so I guess some rudimentary means, like cave men, no? is this what you want?