Time To Change Your Paradigm
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Perhaps someday if we're ready.
I did not say that I do not have fear, but it doesn't mean that I would deny something that I recognized as truth.
However... your post seemed to suggest that you "acknowledge" that Pazuzu told something true, but you don't want to admit it because you're afraid of those occultists.
What I acknowledged if you read me carefully is that these "occultists" have something to hide... that's their business, I don't care what it is so long as it does not interfere with my integrity and safety.
The rest about Flat Earth is that it is not convincing to me or any of the Scientists from very varied backgrounds and expertise I have ever known or come into contact with, and I have as I used to be a project co-ordinator for a seed technology investor.
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As Hezbollah are a Shia group, I can neither be a sympathiser, nor a member, but I acknowledge them for their efforts to help in Lebanon and Palestine against Zionism and also Syria against Daesh (aka ISIS), who are worse than any group, as I consider them Satanists in fact.
ISIS are definitely Satanists, funded by Satanists.
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Do you think my username is cryptic?
Well pazuzu's definitely is, what I mean is a username that does not give a clue as to whom you are.
It ceases to be cryptic when you unveil your ID, not that it will bother NSA or GCHQ to easily find out, btw.
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Peace
At least you make some efforts at humility, instead of just dropping the Earth is Flat, as some Flat Earthers do..
Until then, enjoy your speculation and sofa discussions.
Quite funny
I made an effort to stop you from asking irrelevant question regarding this thread.But my bad.It seems that some one is asking like, okay if earth is flat then Why Does Superman Wear Red Underwear Over His Costume?. Bro,just do a simple task,review your all post in this thread and you will see who is busy with enjoying his own speculation and sofa discussions.All the time you were asking evidence but when brother Pazuzu through you this
Here's a simple experiment you can try
The fact that the earth is flat can be observed using a telescope with a series of lenses, of various magnifying power.
Stand on the beach, and watch a ship (at your eye level) slowly sailing away towards the horizon, until it disappears from your eyesight completely. Then, pick up the telescope and look into it. You will see the ship again. Keep on looking at it until it disappears a second time, and pay close attention to how it disappears. You will note that due to your perspective (the vanishing point), it will disappear by sinking straight down. This is how the human eye perceives objects at a great distance. But the truth is that the far away object is not below the horizon. It is still there.
Now, attach an even stronger lens and look through it. The ship will appear again. And again. And again. And again. Repeat the experiment 100 times, with 100x the magnifying power, and you will keep on seeing the ship, even though you are still at the same eye level, and no matter how far the ship is on the open sea.
If the earth was a ball, this experiment would fail, and you would not be able to see the ship once it has disappeared completely below the horizon, no matter how much you magnify, because it is now UNDER your eye level. To see it again (on a curved surface), you would have to climb to a higher elevation, to increase your field of vision. Furthermore, if the earth was curved, (8 inches of curvature for every mile), the mast of the ship would not sink straight, but would curve inwards as it disappears.
Now, go and try this, if you truly have the sense of scientific discovery, as you claim.
Then you started asking
Did you do that experiment with a telescope and a ship sailing, or you just read about it.
Instead of asking this question why don't you take your ass off from sofa and prove us wrong? So when you claim your Ball earth is revolving, should we assume that you were in International Space Station? Bro you can believe whatever you want,but when you are involving yourself within a debate you should abide by the law of debate.Okay. Lecture apart
According to your fancy imaginary Planetary System A lunar eclipse occurs when the Earth passes between the Moon and the Sun, and the Earth's shadow obscures the moon or a portion of it.(From Google) In other word during lunar eclipse The sun, earth and moon make a pretty 180 degree straight line. Here is a artistic visual
http//i.imgur.com/IFjYA8j.png
On August 16 1989 a lunar eclipse occurred during day time while both sun and moon were visible in the sky,What is not possible according to your planetary system.Now what do you think about it,or how will you explain it?
http//i.imgur.com/BgWarxp.jpg
This webpage has an explanation http//www.trivalleystargazers.org/gert/sunset_mooneclipse/sun_moon_eclipse.htm
Check this out and see if it goes with your reasoning.z.neion
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Has anyone ever considered the word in Quran used for earth may not always refer to 'planet earth' but has a rather broad linguistic meaning of 'land/soil/ground/terrain' as well?
In my understanding its even used more encompassing in some verses as 'matter', being opposed to non-matter. Especially in those verses where it is mentioned in contrast to 'the Heavens'.
Peace
Yeah, we're made out of carbon matter, and there wasn't so much of a concept of a "planet" back in the day when it came to Earth, so the people generally would have understood that word to mean the ground or land, which is the same in Hebrew too and the Semitic languages where it just means the land, the ground, and there wasn't so much of an idea of a thing flying in space that would immediately come to mind which is a modern way of thinking.
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Truth is, there are no real photos of Earth from space, and all you see are composites. NASA itself admits that they are composites.
How can you so confidently state "Truth is" on this matter?
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z.neion
Not interested in your gibberish, I was trying to salvage pazuzu from you crazy Flat Earther lot, as I respect his work on South West Arabia gathering of info and insights.
I will refrain from visiting this thread anymore.
Good luck pazuzu.
Peace.
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Pazuzu is not a demon.
Don?t fall for the hype of the biased ?archeologists?, who unearthed ancient tablets from Mesopotamia, and instantly became ?know-it-alls?. Don?t fall for them when they flash their lizard smiles at the camera, as they ?interpret? the culture which they have been stealing and obliterating. The yare the true demons of this world.?Pazuzu? was the personification of a natural phenomenon (storms and locusts), no different than Enlil, Enu, Lamashtu, Adad, etc...
https//rennyo01.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/exorcist-misconceptions-addressed/
Peace.
I know, but I was saying that in the exorcist movie, from which your picture is from, it is considered a demon that is possessing the girl, and they call it Pazuzu. Of course, to be more specific, the picture in your display is thought by many academics to be a man in make-up.
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Your obsession with the paedophile Stanley Kubrick is disconcerting.
I laughed.
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@pazuzu salaam,
further, 3 points
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since the "renaissance" and the current implementation of modern Science, there has been an acceleration in development of means to marshal the environment, this is how I appraise a paradigm, its practical success, the church with its clinging to old models of nature failed, this current model we are using has been a success.
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that Antarctica matter, why does it have to be what Flat Earthers are advocating, i.e. the rim boundaries of the supposed dome, there might be other things they are hiding they do not want the public to see.
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if there was a rim wall of ice, do you believe Allah is behind it? whereas he made it clear to Moses that we cannot get to see him ever, until JD, and besides, whatever model and reality, Allah said clearly that those who do not believe will never do whatever you show them, and he specifically talked of an ascension to the heavens, with a day 50,000 years of what you reckon, so so close, but takes 50,000 years to reach?
Try better and harder, but do you have the means of your ambitions, or just second hand reports?
I don't think anyone ever can "see" Allah, whatever they see would always just be information of some sort particular to that person in whatever way they are receiving it, but Allah is literally like nothing, no image, no form, no body, no limitations, no shape, no dimensions, no information, except rather than purely nothing, is able to generate information.
The big joke is, all information can be considered a "flat" layer, which is a real scientific model too.
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Perhaps someday if we're ready.
I did not say that I do not have fear, but it doesn't mean that I would deny something that I recognized as truth.
However... your post seemed to suggest that you "acknowledge" that Pazuzu told something true - but you don't want to admit it because you're afraid of those occultists.
lol I really don't think the Occultists have a problem with something like the Flat Earth theory. They are the same people behind making fools of Christians by promoting humans riding on dinosaurs and whatever else in order to mock Christians while funding those programs of misleading people.
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Do you think my username is cryptic?
I thought the Java in your name might refer to Indonesia or something.
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The Earth is Flat, now what?
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Freedomstands!
You have to come and save me!!
I am nearly falling off the edge here!
Help!
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Freedomstands!
You have to come and save me!!
I am nearly falling off the edge here!
Help!
Made me laugh but I'm running and laughing and now I'm slipping because you're on the ice part! I thought I could save you but I can't control the slide, now I might bump you and we'll see what lays beyond this magnificent, strange, wirld we live on. Not world, since that has too rounded of a sound.
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Maybe if I call people on the other side of the world and tell them to all stand on the other edge (carefully) we might be able to tilt ourselves back, but then the whole oceans might spill on them and push them off too, unless the water freezes before reaching them, making a huge ice wall for them to get past in order to return home. Too bad we can't film this event from outer space though, but maybe we could shoot up a harpoon into the sky and hang from the ceiling for a few black and white photos.
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Freedomstands!
You have to come and save me!!
I am nearly falling off the edge here!
Help!
https//m2.behance.net/rendition/pm/770792/disp/17653287faba6e45bde199c138b5685f.jpg
No worries if you fall of the edge.. make sure that you keep hanging on to the gigantic turtle below..
He's the one who bear the burden of the world (literally) on his back..
By the way, have you seen him yet?
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I was trying to salvage pazuzu from you crazy Flat Earther lot, as I respect his work on South West Arabia gathering of info and insights.
So you have concern for him, that's nice.
However, it seems that Pazuzu has more confidence than me regarding the flat earth.
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So you have concern for him, that's nice. )
However, it seems that Pazuzu has more confidence than me regarding the flat earth.
I think you're in a better state than him then, one should never be too over-confident I think.
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I hope people do not judge Pazuzu from his profile picture.
If they know him enough, inshaAllah, they will find him as a kind and righteous person.
When he was claiming that the earth is flat, he is not deluded.
I think he has ability to understand things which most people don't able to understand.