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If "Only Allah", then "Allah Alone" is our watchword

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    drfazl
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    The Truth (comes) from Allah alone; so be not of those who doubt.

    6.17 And if Allah visits thee with affliction none can remove it but He; and if He visits thee with good, He is powerful over everything. 360 This Truth (comes) from Allah alone; so be not of those who doubt.

    Interpretation

    If Allah afflicts you with a disease no doctor but He can avert it. If Allah cures you, He has power over ill hospitals, ill 'specialists' and their medicines.

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      drfazl
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      But emotional outbursts do not help in any way.

      Drfazl suggests a lifestyle concept, not a must.

      Be well

      Absolutely Man of Faith. I do not think it is 'emotional outbursts' but it is "vomiting sickness" due to the products of conception in the breast of wrongful ideas.

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        FreedomStands
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        6.17 And if Allah visits thee with affliction none can remove it but He; and if He visits thee with good, He is powerful over everything. 360 This Truth (comes) from Allah alone; so be not of those who doubt.

        Interpretation

        If Allah afflicts you with a disease no doctor but He can avert it. If Allah cures you, He has power over ill hospitals, ill 'specialists' and their medicines.

        If you are hungry, no food can cure your hunger. If you are thirsty, no water can slake your thirst, yet as Allah wills and makes it so, and so you eat and drink, and similarly, some people take antibiotics that attack infections. Allah can do it other ways too, but can also do it that way, just like you eat when you are hungry, and drink water when you are thirsty.

        In your case though, I highly recommend you stop food and drink altogether, and rely on "Allah alone" and reject the gifts of Allah, and surely you will survive in this manner for a long time, until Allah determines your death.

        Also in answer to your other annoying stuff, I already answered, I never said what you claimed, I simply said they do not appear to have an incredibly strong knowledge of the Qur'an (because they say that Allah does not determine things, just like you also tend to say).

        Nor can a joke make you laugh or a tragedy make you cry, except as Allah wills, and All is from God, the causes and the effects and whatever Allah makes it appear as.

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          drfazl
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          We Are The Guardians For The Wisdom of Quran, The Zikr

          15.9 Surely We sent down the manifest wisdom and verily, We are@ its guardian.

          Note

          @ We are- Allah and those messengers who are endowed with the wisdom of Quran are sufficient proof that the Revealer is a Messenger 13/43 from Him who may be in any part of the world, at any point of time and their Wisdom on Quran, and the Revelation by them, of the Wisdom of Quran to the world, for all time to come. Thus the ?zikr? the wisdom of Quran, is well guarded as promised by Allah.

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            FreedomStands
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            Absolutely Man of Faith. I do not think it is 'emotional outbursts' but it is "vomiting sickness" due to the products of conception in the breast of wrongful ideas.

            So these breasts that I was conceived in have written all inside of them "Allah alone is the Ultimate" and these are "wrongful ideas"? Drmushrik?

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              drfazl
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              If you are hungry, now food can cure your hunger. If you are thirst, no water can cure your thirst, yet as Allah wills and makes it so, and so you eat and drink, and similarly, some people take antibiotics that attack infections. Allah can do it other ways too, but can also do it that way, just like you eat when you are hungry, and drink water when you are thirsty.

              In your case though, I highly recommend you stop food and drink altogether, and rely on "Allah alone" and reject the gifts of Allah, and surely you will survive in this manner for a long time, until Allah determines your death.

              Also in answer to your other annoying stuff, I already answered, I never said what you claimed, I simply said they do not appear to have an incredibly strong knowledge of the Qur'an (because they say that Allah does not determine things, just like you also tend to say).

              Will you give your sensible interpretation to 6/17 and then talk based on that instead of prattling? I have given my example as to how to interpret.

              Regarding the second question the answer still remains to be answered. Did you simply said it and in this way They do not appear to have an incredibly strong knowledge of the Qur'an Where is the question of raising this comment at all if you are a surrenderer to the ayats 3/7, 20/114 and 17/85?

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                Man_of_Faith
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                I hope drfazl can withstand derogatory titles.

                Regarding food, with Faith much less is required. It's actually only an illusion you eat. If God willed and supported it, a human could go on without eating or drinking for a long time, because an affection on the atoms is all which is required.

                And with faith, much less can do much more.

                And with Faith you could turn water into wine.

                Be well

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                  drfazl
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                  So these breasts that I was conceived in have written all inside of them "Allah alone is the Ultimate" and these are "wrongful ideas"? Drmushrik?

                  Please write short and brief or give a summary of what you want to convey. Allah alone is the Ultimate is a confusion and it is wrong conclusion to stop half-way.

                  Instead write this way Allah alone is the Ultimate in Forgiving, in being Merciful, as the Judge of all Justice, as the Knower, as the Remover of Evils you earn against the wish of Allah, as Bringer of Good despite your wrongs, the Relenting, as Redeemer, as Helper, as Protector and so on and so forth.

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                    FreedomStands
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                    I hope drfazl can withstand derogatory titles.

                    Regarding food, with Faith much less is required. It's actually only an illusion you eat. If God willed and supported it, a human could go on without eating or drinking for a long time, because an affection on the atoms is all which is required.

                    And with faith, much less can do much more.

                    And with Faith you could turn water into wine.

                    Be well

                    Seems you're lacking Faith.

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                      FreedomStands
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                      Please write short and brief or give a summary of what you want to convey. Allah alone is the Ultimate is a confusion and it is wrong conclusion to stop half-way.

                      Instead write this way Allah alone is the Ultimate in Forgiving, in being Merciful, as the Judge of all Justice, as the Knower, as the Remover of Evils you earn against the wish of Allah, as Bringer of Good despite your wrongs, the Relenting, as Redeemer, as Helper, as Protector and so on and so forth.

                      You managed to make me laugh! Haha. Very funny.

                      "Ultimate in Forgiving" not in every other regard? "Against the wish of Allah" Oh we can act against the wish of Allah? Certainly, mighty are we!

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                        FreedomStands
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                        Will you give your sensible interpretation to 6/17 and then talk based on that instead of prattling? I have given my example as to how to interpret.

                        Regarding the second question the answer still remains to be answered. Did you simply said it and in this way They do not appear to have an incredibly strong knowledge of the Qur'an Where is the question of raising this comment at all if you are a surrenderer to the ayats 3/7, 20/114 and 17/85?

                        You do this repeating garbage every time, it is very annoying when you keep asking over and over and I have already answered it now. You want some particular answer and my answer is not fitting what you want, so answer it yourself then, but I already answered you and told you I did not say what you are implying, I only said the individual did not appear to have a strong knowledge of the Qur'an (same with you), because you and him both say that Allah is not the determiner of everything absolutely, the Qadiruun, you are both therefor blasphemers and liars with a weak knowledge of what the Qur'an says and a weak knowledge in general of why whatever is Ultimate is the Absolute Determiner, and if you say Allah is not, then you are merely saying something else is Ultimate other than Allah, even inadvertently.

                        I've told you, stop repeating the same question over and over, you've done this in all our arguments in the past, it is extremely annoying.

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                          drfazl
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                          You managed to make me laugh! Haha. Very funny.

                          "Ultimate in Forgiving" not in every other regard? "Against the wish of Allah" Oh we can act against the wish of Allah? Certainly, mighty are we!

                          They can as Allah leaves them astray for their continued arrogance and aggression beyond the period of decree stated for them Here is the verse 4/50 Look how they invent about Allah untruth, and sufficient is that as a manifest sin.

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                            Man_of_Faith
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                            Seems you're lacking Faith.

                            And your proof is what?

                            A man that says "Everything is possible nothing is impossible" and lives up to the motto can surely not be without Faith, can he? Do you know what the word means? Confidence, security and acknowledgement.

                            It is like holding the hand over a pitcher of polluted water and saying "be you clean" and it comes pure. If it does, did that one lack Faith? No, I would not think so.

                            Iman is security in yourself which is security in God. Confidence is everything, but also humbleness to avoid arrogance which comes with confidence without humbleness.

                            But I have noticed you have derailed emotionally completely. This is detrimental for you, but hopefully you will eventually grow out of it. You still have time.

                            Be well

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                              drfazl
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                              I've told you, stop repeating the same question over and over, you've done this in all our arguments in the past, it is extremely annoying.

                              Seek patience from Allah; Allah does not create haste for you but patience; do not get annoyed; Allah will change your mood to righteousness. Now answer to my query regarding 6/17 and to the next question from me to you based on 3/7, 17/85, 20/114. Write the ayats, and then your interpretation, and then your justification to your own statement.

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                                unknownuser
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                                But does this person (I refer to FreedomStands) worship the All Mighty/ The Ultimate as he claims?

                                See
                                1690 ?Indeed, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and forbids immorality and bad conduct and oppression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded.?

                                But does this person really honor this order and command? If you think he does, then look at all of his speech and intentions, you will find precious little signs of it.

                                Iblees/Satan, devils and his following recognize the All Mighty as the One and Only Power too, but what does Iblees, the shayateen and his followers call to/ tempt/whisper/encourage/employ? The very opposite of what is in 1690.

                                So your lord of darkness and evil, is a false idol that you worship with no power at all except to call to every injustice, to every perverted and disgusting speech and deeds, to oppression and bad conduct. To make the human believe that it can never choose between right or wrong, and whatever you do are not your deeds because God is responsible for your disobedience/obedience and so you in-fact, end up denying the judgement and trial and the All Mighty.

                                6112 And as such, We have permitted the enemies of every prophet?devils of mankind and Jinn?to inspire each other with fancy words in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications.

                                6113 That is so the hearts of those who do not believe in the Hereafter will listen to it, and they will accept it, and they will take of it what they will.

                                6114 ?Shall I seek other than God as a judge when He has sent down to you the Book fully detailed?? Those to whom We have given the Book know it is sent down from your Lord with the truth; so do not be of those who have doubt.

                                Then do you worship the Lord of the worlds as you claim?

                                Refer to the Quran

                                711 And We created you, then We shaped you, then We said to the angels ?Yield to Adam;? so they yielded except for Satan, he was not of those who yielded.

                                712 He (God) said ?What has prevented you from yielding when I have ordered you?? He said ?I am far better than him, You created me from fire and created him from clay!?

                                713 He (God) said ?Descend from it, for it is not for you to be arrogant here; depart, for you are disgraced.?

                                714 He (Satan) said ?Grant me respite until the Day they are resurrected??

                                715 He (God) said ?You are granted.?

                                716 He (Satan) said ?For that which You have caused me to be misled, I will stalk for them on Your straight path.?

                                717 ?Then I will come to them from between their hands, and from behind them, and from their right, and from their left; and You will find most of them unthankful.?

                                718 He (God) said ?Get out from this, you are despised and banished. As for those of them who follow you, I will fill Hell with you all!?

                                Satan/Iblees disobeyed, and blamed God for it. Disgraced is he who follows in these footsteps.
                                Curse? You are already cursed, but you perceive not.

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                                  FreedomStands
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                                  I am replying on the phone. You made claims about faith in the post I was replying to. Can you do those things? No? That is what I was commenting on. That you said one who has faith can do such and such so I said it looks like you are lacking in faith since you can't apparently do such and such. I haven't derailed emotionally. Don't worry. I am just seeing how people respond to what is being said and how it is being said.

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                                    FreedomStands
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                                    I am responding on my phone to you A.W.

                                    I am saying the Ultimate is all I call God. You are claiming God does not determine but things can go this way or that way and God doesn't know and chance determines the outcome. You are saying I am false and saying false things. You are saying it is false that Allah is determiner and you are saying you are the determiner and you can freely do this or that so chance determines the results which Allah also doesn't know. You are saying I am cursed for believing and stating Allah is the sole determiner. You are saying Shaitan could turn around and not be outcast regardless of Allah. You are implying I am like Shaitan and very likely Shaitan's follower ny saying Allah is the sole determiner while you say you determine and chance dwyer ines and Shaitan can determine too. You think I will be punished for saying Allah is the sole power and creator of everything and you will be spared for saying Allah is lacking in knowledge of what will happen and what will be done and relies instead on chance and follows after what people determine by chance. Do you really think you are right? Do you really think there is a source of anything at all in existence but Allah? I say that everything whatsoever in the Universe and on Earth is created by Allah entirely and Allah alone determines and creates what Allah wills and you are claiming no and that I am Satanic for saying Allah created everything whatsoever and that includes good and evil and not everything is necessarily good for people. That whatever is experienced is determined and created by Allah and decreed by Allah before it is brought into existence by Allah be it in the Earth or in yourself. You are saying no. You are saying I am wrong and Satanic and cursed for saying these things and that instead of God alone being determiner, you deterkine your fate by the actions you determine for yourself left up to chance since you can do this or that and God does not create absolutely everything and does not decree or determine or even know what will happen but is left in suspense waiting to see what chance determines and does not create all experiences bit people choose and determine. Perhaps you can go back and read the quotes I provided too.

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      I am responding on my phone to you A.W.

                                      I am saying the Ultimate is all I call God. You are claiming God does not determine but things can go this way or that way and God doesn't know and chance determines the outcome. You are saying I am false and saying false things. You are saying it is false that Allah is determiner and you are saying you are the determiner and you can freely do this or that so chance determines the results which Allah also doesn't know. You are saying I am cursed for believing and stating Allah is the sole determiner. You are saying Shaitan could turn around and not be outcast regardless of Allah. You are implying I am like Shaitan and very likely Shaitan's follower ny saying Allah is the sole determiner while you say you determine and chance dwyer ines and Shaitan can determine too. You think I will be punished for saying Allah is the sole power and creator of everything and you will be spared for saying Allah is lacking in knowledge of what will happen and what will be done and relies instead on chance and follows after what people determine by chance. Do you really think you are right? Do you really think there is a source of anything at all in existence but Allah? I say that everything whatsoever in the Universe and on Earth is created by Allah entirely and Allah alone determines and creates what Allah wills and you are claiming no and that I am Satanic for saying Allah created everything whatsoever and that includes good and evil and not everything is necessarily good for people. That whatever is experienced is determined and created by Allah and decreed by Allah before it is brought into existence by Allah be it in the Earth or in yourself. You are saying no. You are saying I am wrong and Satanic and cursed for saying these things and that instead of God alone being determiner, you deterkine your fate by the actions you determine for yourself left up to chance since you can do this or that and God does not create absolutely everything and does not decree or determine or even know what will happen but is left in suspense waiting to see what chance determines and does not create all experiences bit people choose and determine. Perhaps you can go back and read the quotes I provided too.

                                      Then let the All-Mighty be witness, i am innocent of all your false accusations on my part. I seek refuge with God from being of the ignorants.

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                                        FreedomStands
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                                        What false accusations. I was trying to clarify our positions and what you are saying. Did I misunderstand you?

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                                          JavaLatte
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                                          Praise be to Allah. Now I have strong reason to not follow drfazl.


                                          @ DrGm, I hope that you're not following him (drfazl) blindly

                                          to me and my family and thousands of believers, no doctor needed so far. we pray and believe the Almighty will protect us from medicines and doctors in the hereafter too.

                                          So, you and your family also do not need drfazl, right?

                                          Are you also a doctor?

                                          And, maybe now you're drfazl's assistant? Is it correct?

                                          Why it seems like you're someone who's "following drfazl closely"?

                                          . . . thousands of believers,

                                          I doubt that the amount of believers (true ones) could reach thousands nowadays.

                                          Peace.

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