If "Only Allah", then "Allah Alone" is our watchword
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The Qur'an repeatedly says all things are created by Allah, even the bad things that are calamitous and evil. Not "some things" but "everything". Everything means Everything. Correct? Correct.
Wrong! For Allah says, Good is what Allah has in store in abundance for you which He will create in just measure in accordance with each of your behaviour distinct from one another; and evil is what He creates for you in just measure to the extent of each of your unjustness.
Otherwise what you say is absolute invention and a lie.
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Which part of the world says hunger is a disease and thirst is a disease; and the food and water are medicines?
Repeated barking does not mean a thing; speak sensibly like a human being with some dignity and fear for Allah. For you is another ayat 4/148, which we will discuss later to make you know why you are a rejecter and an abominable one.
The hospitals are where the last rites are done before death. Every one should die in the hospitals under the merciful blades of the doctors and their poisons, the medicines. For you another ayat, which I do not mention now; but I will discuss sure, if only you are sane in your words and use of language, for Allah does not like the sound of an ass 31/19. I will discuss it with you again if you mend your behaviour.
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Discuss if you have any knowledge on Quran; Allah shall not guide those who call besides Allah. If you stop using filthy words from your mouth, Allah may guide you; Come on discuss; or else I will teach you.26.79 And it is He who feeds me and gives me drink.
26.80 And when I am ill, it is He who cures me.I do not find similarly an ayat
"It is He who created medicines, doctors and hospitals and they shall cure you."
"Call the doctors besides Me."
"Believe in the Medicines besides Me All Powerful."
"Enter the Hospitals, leave my Realm!"I do not find such verses in Quran!
Do, you? You - the medicines, doctors and hospitals worshiper, besides and beside Allah?You spoke of repeated barking. You are stating that Allah did not create all things, you are a blasphemer.
Remember my earlier posts? I explained all the points showing ayats too. You ignored them and mocked them, saying I am just posting so many ayats.
Do you remember that? When you said "Freedomstands, I appreciate your flooding the page with the ayats of Allah but to what purpose?"
Go back to those posts and look.
Here, I will get the links to them for you
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604771.msg371947#msg371947
Calling you a Shaitan (Enemy), a Criminal, and a Murderer are not "Barking" or "name calling". Calling you a "snake" is not name calling either.
I am telling people what you are.
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You state that Allah did not create all things, that some things that are in existence are not brought about, determined, or created by Allah. Automatically that puts you in the category of a Shirk promoter by attributing some creation to others than Allah.
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You prey upon villagers and the ignorant and many others by telling them not to fight infections and diseases so letting the infectious bacteria and whatever else grow and spread and harm their bodies, mutilation, killing of children and the elderly, and more. This makes you a criminal and a murderer.
Do you see? It isn't a "filthy mouth" you simply are these things for real. Because you lead people to harm and promote shirk vehemently, you are a "Shaitan" an enemy to the people, and a friend to disease in this case. You yourself, and your beliefs, are a disease too.
Do you claim my saying that Allah alone is the creator of everything is a diseased statement? Then you're no different from the Shaitan's of the past.
People are calling you "messenger" and things like that, and hundreds of people look up to you and you are leading them to hurt and promoting shirk to them, this makes you a major devil. Do you understand? Remember in the Qur'an the scenes with the leaders and the followers? If you're in any of those scenes, you're one of the leaders.
You are called snake because you contain poison and poisonous beliefs and seductively spread them to people, whereas I bluntly and blatantly say Allah alone is the ultimate, there is no seductive snake business with what I am saying, and anyone can insult me for my methods, but you behave like how people in the past used to say "that is a snake".
That is why a name for you can be drsnake. It isn't falsely insulting you, you really are these things, you are a bad person, a villain. Who knows how many people have been hurt because of you so far? You are a major sinner, and your whole basis is shirk, as I've explained.
Now read this, and try to understand it. Don't worry, you won't be able to. You will just blurt out and repeat your inane questions, and in the end we'll see who is right
Is FreedomStands who says Allah alone is the creator of everything right or is drfazl who says Allah does not create everything right?
We shall see.
Now go back and read, and focus on what I wrote to you.
If you say anything that diverts from what I am saying in the slightest, you are simply a blasphemer.
I say that Allah alone is Ultimate, the Ultimate created everything whatsoever that exists, that does not mean everything is necessarily good. You claim that there are other creators because Allah did not create some things, such as medical technologies. This is where you perform shirk.
I have given you a way out even, to instead say that Allah indeed created everything whatsoever, but that Allah created medical technologies, and that they are bad. This is then not shirk, and we can then deal on the fact of you denying the help of Allah and whatever else, but at least it is not shirk.
Do you understand the distinction being made?
You'll still be a killer and a promoter of disease and infection by telling people not to fight disease and infection, you'll still be a criminal and a snake and whatever else, but at least you will not be performing shirk on top of it all.
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Quote from drfazl on Today at 111123 AM
I believe and follow Prophet Ibrahim, when Allah mentions about prophet Ibrahim whom Allah orders to say to his people, "It is Allah alone who cures me when I am ill." What freedomstands speaks about me with al the offensive names is that he indirectly indicts the prophet himself.freedomstands will never speak on the ayat and contradict it; I am sure Allah will make him dumb when it comes to explaining Quran. If he has any integrity let him start discussing with me, with this one ayat 26.80, with decency by shedding his evil language and submitting to Allah if he has fear for Allah. Let the whole world see!
What is there to discuss?
What is there to discuss?
To discuss that I am standing by the stance of Ibrahim... while you are not.Are you ready?
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All good comes from Allah 4/79; all evil is from your own devisings 4/78. Allah does not drive you to evil but He enjoins good works. Allah forbids evil while you bid evil. This is Quran.
All is from God, the good from Allah, the evil from yourselves, ALL is from God, not SOME, ALL. 478.
It is exactly people like you that it is talking about in 478.
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freedomstands will never speak on the ayat and contradict it; I am sure Allah will make him dumb when it comes to explaining Quran. If he has any integrity let him start discussing with me, with this one ayat 26.80, with decency by shedding his evil language and submitting to Allah if he has fear for Allah. Let the whole world see!
What is there to discuss?
What is there to discuss?
To discuss that I am standing by the stance of Ibrahim... while you are not.Are you ready?
Actually, I am standing by the stance of Ibrahim, you are not. You claim there are other creators besides Allah, I claim that Allah alone created everything "you and all that you make" "you and all your handiwork".
By saying that Allah did not create all things, you are doing shirk, the opposite of what Ibrahim's religion was, you are saying Allah is not the creator of everything, only some things, while there are other creators, such as those who created medical technologies, which Allah did not create according to you.
So I am standing by the stance of Ibrahim, you are standing by the stance of shirk.
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All is from God, the good from Allah, the evil from yourselves, ALL is from God, not SOME, ALL. 478.
It is exactly people like you that it is talking about in 478.
Thank God! For the first time you accept all evil is from yourself, which Allah creates, shapes and produces as a thing or as an event. Now you got it; I am with you.
So similarly let us discuss
26.80 To discuss that I am standing by the stance of Ibrahim... while you are not.
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Actually, I am standing by the stance of Ibrahim, you are not. You claim there are other creators besides Allah, I claim that Allah alone created everything "you and all that you make" "you and all your handiwork".
By saying that Allah did not create all things, you are doing shirk, the opposite of what Ibrahim's religion was, you are saying Allah is not the creator of everything, only some things, while there are other creators, such as those who created medical technologies, which Allah did not create according to you.
So I am standing by the stance of Ibrahim, you are standing by the stance of shirk.
No need for unnecessary claims on both the sides.
First put the ayat 26.80
Put the ayat
Explain the ayat
Interpret to the situation
How you apply to the varying standards of people around
And finally you will know where you stand. -
Thank God! For the first time you accept all evil is from yourself, which Allah creates, shapes and produces as a thing or as an event. Now you got it; I am with you.
So similarly let us discuss
26.80 To discuss that I am standing by the stance of Ibrahim... while you are not.
Thank God! For the first time you accept all evil is from yourself, which Allah creates, shapes and produces as a thing or as an event. Now you got it; I am with you.
So similarly let us discuss
26.80 To discuss that I am standing by the stance of Ibrahim... while you are not.
As usual, you misread what I wrote.
This might help you, since your brain might be a bit broken
All is from God.
That does not mean "evil is from yourselves", which is a direct contradiction of "All is from God". Are you able to understand that?
So now read carefully what I wrote.
ALL IS FROM GOD THE GOOD FROM GOD, THE EVIL FROM YOURSELF. ALL IS FROM GOD.
Now let me fill in the blanks, since you can't seem to comprehend that in any other than a mentally retarded fashion.
ALL IS FROM GOD The good from God is FROM GOD, the evil from yourselves IS FROM GOD, ALL IS FROM GOD.
Now do you understand?
Probably not. Stupid is as stupid does, you know?
Yes, you are stupid. Anyone who rushes to hell proclaiming Allah did not create everything is stupid, so you are stupid indeed.
These are not insults, these are simply statements about what you are, a stupid shirk promoting murderer. That is not being dramatic, that is simply factual.
If one states "evil is from yourselves, not from Allah" they are stating shirk.
The Qur'an directly opposes this statement in 478, but your brain can't seem to grasp it apparently because you are in love with shirk.
All is from God does not mean "evil is from yourselves, thus All is not really from God, but some is from yourselves while some is from God". Rev up that broken brain of yours and try to understand.
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No need for unnecessary claims on both the sides.
First put the ayat 26.80
Put the ayat
Explain the ayat
Interpret to the situation
How you apply to the varying standards of people around
And finally you will know where you stand.These are not "unnecessary claims". They are clarifying the positions. Identifying your shirk clearly. It is no wonder you would not want them revealed.
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These are not "unnecessary claims". They are clarifying the positions. Identifying your shirk clearly. It is no wonder you would not want them revealed.
Common my friend,
Get down to business.First put the ayat 26.80
Put the ayat
Explain the ayat
Interpret to the situation
How you apply to the varying standards of people around
And finally you will know where you stand. -
Peace Javalatte,
Dr Fazl's meetings (6 meetings per month) happens every month all over tamilnadu, southern state in India. Every meeting, 200 to 400 people attend. Also, a few listen over phone regularly. People abroad (Singapore, Malaysia, Dubai,etc.) download and listen to his speeches from foolproofcure website.
There are others who read his books and magazine - Health time.
Yes. Some do not go to him for treatment when they are ill, because Drfazl insists that we turn to God and not to him.
Gita
Hi Gita, Does Dr Fazl collect /take money from his meetings and for his speeches , books and magazines?
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Common my friend,
Get down to business.First put the ayat 26.80
Put the ayat
Explain the ayat
Interpret to the situation
How you apply to the varying standards of people around
And finally you will know where you stand.I'm sleepy, do it for me. You seem to have some plan to prove something. All you want to prove is the following
"FreedomStands says that Allah is the only power and Ultimate which creates and controls all things absolutely, this is not so, because I, drfazl, say that the Qur'an says that Allah does not create everything or control everything, but instead there are other creators and determiners, and Freedomstands is wrong from saying Allah is the only creator of everything, because Allah did not create medical technologies".
This is what you want to prove? Then as they say "Go to hell".
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I'm sleepy, do it for me. You seem to have some plan to prove something. All you want to prove is the following
"FreedomStands says that Allah is the only power and Ultimate which creates and controls all things absolutely, this is not so, because I, drfazl, say that the Qur'an says that Allah does not create everything or control everything, but instead there are other creators and determiners, and Freedomstands is wrong from saying Allah is the only creator of everything, because Allah did not create medical technologies".
It is for sure time and again you prove you have no understanding of Quran; you cannot touch 26/80; 3/7; 17/85; 20/114 or any of the ayats; absolutely ignorant, posing here to prove your concept Allah guides you to hell; It is wilful play by Allah; Allah creates all evil for you; Allah makes you steal; Allah makes you rob; Allah makes you a terrorist; Allah bombs Iraq, Palestine; Allah created molesters of women; and Allah shall send molesters to Heavens; and the molested to Hell; He does what He wills. What an understanding of Quran and Allah!
Listen to what I say
Allah says, Good is what Allah has in store in abundance for you which He will create in just measure in accordance with each of your behaviour distinct from one another; and evil is what He creates for you in just measure to the extent of each of your unjustness.
If you really fear Allah, take one ayat, only one ayat out of 6000 odd verses and discuss your subject instead using all the slum languages on earth. I know as a low lying one that you are you cannot free yourself from the foul languages; all your posts speaks of the freedom and it is unimaginable that you have been given by the moderators to use as much foul mouth to speak as possible in this thread; and I doubt if they all stand by you. And I doubt if there are any more evil words still left on the streets.
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@drfazl, Do you take money or gifts from your followers and for your lectures and writing in magazines?
I do not take money or gifts for the meetings nor do I have any following and I do not believe in the organizations; I am single, all alone with Allah.
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@drfazl, Do you take money or gifts from your followers and for your lectures and writing in magazines?
You may be interested in these posts if you're curious about the financial aspect
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605479.msg330853#msg330853
Allah finally taught me His Way. From the year 1999 December the patients one by one started trickling again after a gap of 3 years. Now after 13 years of leaving acupuncture, with the cure effected in each patient through prayers alone, I am teaching Quran and how to be under the grace of Allah by shirking away from shirk. My fees now is USD 2000 per patient. It is no more a fees now because I am not curing but God. It is an offering they have to give as their alms for Allah having guided them in the right path through a chosen person from among them. I was not revealing this all along only to avoid embarrassment on both the sides.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605427.msg331173#msg331173
"Affluent people will never come to me; the so called educated will make fun of me; the middle income people will be weighing their options too long to come to me. Who is left here, are the poor people and who are below poor and who have no money at all.
So, my real service will only be towards the 'poor' people. Yet I will not reduce my fees and no concessions to money.
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605427.msg331166#msg331166
And of course, by Allah, I do not ask for wages to deliver the messages of Quran to the people. All my travels are by flight and the best auditoriums, my stay in 5 star hotels are my own expenses and I do not expect from the people who comes to listen to this message, close to 600 to 750 people every week. Even while I was deprived of all the money 20 years earlier, I was traveling in the third class train, with very difficult accommodation, with a very thin gathering of 10 or 15 people in the big auditorium - all expenses were borne by me with whatever Allah had left with me. Again this was not felt tough by me at any point of time. I was only thinking of when Allah's help would come; and I know and always believed, Allah's help is near.
Anyone other than the dummy accounts can see exactly what's going on here.
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A Wise Man Vs A Fool
The knowledge of a wise will increase like a flood,
and their counsel like a life giving spring.The mind of a fool is like a broken jar;
it can hold no knowledge.When an intelligent person hears a wise saying,
he praises it and adds to it.
When a fool hears it,he laughs at it and throws
it behind his back.The utterance of a sensible person in the assembly
and they ponder his words in their minds.A fool raises his voice when he laughs,
but the wise smiles quietly.The mind of fools is in their mouth,
but the mouth of the wise is in their mind.When an ungodly person curses an adversary,
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OMG. drfazl not only a charlatan , a liar too. @freedomstands , thanks for exposing him.