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God or Allah. Wich is correct in English

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    FreedomStands
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    Not one of those is the God I submit to except the first. I submit to "The one God". al-ilhah, Ilh meaning God. There is no ilh but al-Lh. Read There is no God but The God.

    Peace

    Ah, I worship all those Gods, because to me they are just words in other languages that can refer to the One of which there is no other.

    God means "invoked" in the English etymology, it is related to the word Khudah.

    The Semitic word Ilah refers to "power", and many of the "gods" in the Semitic languages were just concepts and natural powers. They were "invoked" but the word did not mean "invoked" the way the English word God does etymologically.

    The root tends to mean "worshiped" but has other meanings in it.

    A slight variation on the word ilah was used in reference to the Ultimate, before Islam, and the word can be found at the top of all lists of powers like Allalu, and other varieties which differed slightly from the ordinary or common term for any "ilah" which just meant any power and was used of various powers such as "death, sea, sky, sun, moon, righteousness, wisdom" and whatever else

    https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alalu

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      hawk99
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      ilh translates to God
      al-Lh translates to the God.

      Peace

      Peace runninglikezebras, what is your first language?

      peace

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        runninglikezebras
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        Ah, I worship all those Gods, because to me they are just words in other languages that can refer to the One of which there is no other.

        God means "invoked" in the English etymology, it is related to the word Khudah.

        The Semitic word Ilah refers to "power", and many of the "gods" in the Semitic languages were just concepts and natural powers. They were "invoked" but the word did not mean "invoked" the way the English word God does etymologically.

        The root tends to mean "worshiped" but has other meanings in it.

        A slight variation on the word ilah was used in reference to the Ultimate, before Islam, and the word can be found at the top of all lists of powers like Allalu, and other varieties which differed slightly from the ordinary or common term for any "ilah" which just meant any power and was used of various powers such as "death, sea, sky, sun, moon, righteousness, wisdom" and whatever else

        https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alalu

        Regardless of this, I consider many of the Gods you name to be strongly associated with pagan traditions that are incompatible with Quran. Just because their pantheons of many gods had a concept of supreme God does not make them anymore Quranically sound.

        Peace

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          runninglikezebras
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          Peace runninglikezebras, what is your first language?

          peace

          If you have a point to make please do so.

          Peace

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            hawk99
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            If you have a point to make please do so.

            Peace

            Oh I have a point good brother, that's why I asked the question i.e.,
            what is your first language?

            peace

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              FreedomStands
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              Peace runninglikezebras, what is your first language?

              peace

              Lion!

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                FreedomStands
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                Regardless of this, I consider many of the Gods you name to be strongly associated with pagan traditions that are incompatible with Quran. Just because their pantheons of many gods had a concept of supreme God does not make them anymore Quranically sound.

                Peace

                To me, they are just words. Allah was also worshiped or mentioned by the pagans, that doesn't make Allah false or the word unusable.

                To say "Unseen" in another language, doesn't invalidate the quality of Allah as "Unseen" for example, even if pagans say or do something stupid in using the word.

                That is just simple logic and avoiding fallacies in thinking.

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                  FreedomStands
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                  Oh I have a point good brother, that's why I asked the question i.e.,
                  what is your first language?

                  peace

                  I have a point, but it isn't very sharp!

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                    runninglikezebras
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                    Oh I have a point good brother, that's why I asked the question i.e.,
                    what is your first language?

                    peace

                    My native language is irrelevant to this discussion. If you have a Quranic or linguistic point to make, make it and skip the dramatic build up.

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                      FreedomStands
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                      My native language is irrelevant to this discussion. If you have a Quranic or linguistic point to make, make it and skip the dramatic build up.

                      lol I'm curious for the sake of curiosity too, just to know.

                      I grew up with English mainly, but when I was little there was an urdu speaking caretaker so I spoke full urdu and can still understand it mostly today.

                      I don't know any other languages really, but I love the study of linguistics and etymology and have been at that for a long time, spanning a great deal of languages.

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                        hawk99
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                        To me, they are just words. Allah was also worshiped or mentioned by the pagans, that doesn't make Allah false or the word unusable.

                        To say "Unseen" in another language, doesn't invalidate the quality of Allah as "Unseen" for example, even if pagans say or do something stupid in using the word.

                        That is just simple logic and avoiding fallacies in thinking.

                        So true.

                        My native language is irrelevant to this discussion. If you have a Quranic or linguistic point to make, make it and skip the dramatic build up.

                        Are you running like a zebra? )

                        God bless

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                          runninglikezebras
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                          I guess you have no point to make without me giving you the assist to go ad hominem.

                          Peace

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                            hawk99
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                            I guess you have no point to make without me giving you the assist to go ad hominem.

                            Peace

                            You seem like an intelligent person, so why is the question
                            "What is your first language" so difficult for you?

                            P.S. It has to do with the discussion

                            peace

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                              runninglikezebras
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                              You seem like an intelligent person, so why is the question
                              "What is your first language" so difficult for you?

                              P.S. It has to do with the discussion

                              peace

                              I don't see how it's relevant. I'm sure if you have linguistic proof to bring, my personal background is unnecessary.

                              Peace

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                                hawk99
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                                I don't see how it's relevant. I'm sure if you have linguistic proof to bring, my personal background is unnecessary.

                                Peace

                                No problem handshake

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                                  FreedomStands
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                                  So true.

                                  Are you running like a zebra? )

                                  God bless

                                  Thank you very much!

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                                    Man_of_Faith
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                                    How I know hawk99?

                                    It communicates with authority and can validate itself.

                                    Be well

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                                      Man_of_Faith
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                                      If you present God as a name, it cannot be assigned a definite article in English. It is against grammar rules.

                                      The AL prefix means "to be such as".

                                      Be well

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                                        FreedomStands
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                                        How I know hawk99?

                                        It communicates with authority and can validate itself.

                                        Be well

                                        This is genuinely interesting. Can you explain more about this to me in private or in public? Did some new incident occur recently or is it the other stuff from before, and what are the particular details?

                                        You know people will make fun of you for what you say, big deal, I'm a joke too, but I would really like to know about the whole process and interaction.

                                        I don't consider you a liar at all, I mean I believe you are experiencing whatever you say you are experiencing, and can hopefully describe it, like what happens, etc.

                                        In my case, I write just whatever, I clearly don't think much!

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                                          Man_of_Faith
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                                          I am fully aware people will insult it. It does not matter. They do not know.

                                          The communique has been followed by "paranormal" events and it has put forth prophecies. Everything it says has come true thus so far. It is guiding. It has also answered questions no one but God could have answered.

                                          Well, to be called mentally ill is probably going to be common day. It is irrelevant.

                                          Be well

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