Eternal Hell ands the morality of God
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Do any of you seriously believe that the billions of Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, Jews and others will go to Hell?
If you were born in China, you would have been a Buddhist too. About 97% of all religious people adhere to the faith of their parents or country of birth. Can you believe in an immoral, unjust, violent and psychopathic God who doesn't take that into consideration?
I don't.. I believe in the end the issue is about good people vs bad people. I no longer take the Qur'an literally, the language and rhetoric of the Qur'an is clearly directed at the mindset of the Arabs of 1400 years ago and in their own cultural context. I also don't believe that all the verses of the Qur'an are universal but that's another topic.
I was thinking, if we made an image about alternative personality about God will we change God's nature? ;D
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I was thinking, if we made an image about alternative personality about God will we change God's nature? ;D
Can you explain this idea a little more? Maybe re-state it in other words too? It sounds interesting, but I'm not entirely sure how you mean. Could you explain it more fully or thoroughly? It sounds good and like a good point.
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Can you explain this idea a little more? Maybe re-state it in other words too? It sounds interesting, but I'm not entirely sure how you mean. Could you explain it more fully or thoroughly? It sounds good and like a good point.
Here is the real statement "No matter what you believe, it wont change anything".
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Here is the real statement "No matter what you believe, it wont change anything".
Very good and very true!
If a person believes God is not going to throw them in hell, will it really with 100% certainty save them from hell? So many believe and believed there is no hell even, the Qur'an says something in the nature of "wait, you'll see".
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Very good and very true!
If a person believes God is not going to throw them in hell, will it really with 100% certainty save them from hell? So many believe and believed there is no hell even, the Qur'an says something in the nature of "wait, you'll see".
Yes it is, is per se God really good? And not really serious about hell. Depend on what you called good anyway. On Judaism it said that God is Loving and Compassionate, but when it goes to making mistake He said something like this "I forgave sin but you will not be prevented from punishment". If you know Christianity, basically it is the same, only differ on words "Bad tree will he hacked and thrown to fire". On Islam, well it is the same "Whoever done evil more than their good, he'll be thrown to hell for eternity".
Here is what is gotten into my mind. When we're reached puberity, we found a badly compultion to had sex. I was wondering why is that? And then, I found out, whoa, there is a great joy in there. It make me worried, why do we fear death so much? Scary huh?
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Yes it is, is per se God really good? And not really serious about hell. Depend on what you called good anyway. On Judaism it said that God is Loving and Compassionate, but when it goes to making mistake He said something like this "I forgave sin but you will not be prevented from punishment". If you know Christianity, basically it is the same, only differ on words "Bad tree will he hacked and thrown to fire". On Islam, well it is the same "Whoever done evil more than their good, he'll be thrown to hell for eternity".
Here is what is gotten into my mind. When we're reached puberity, we found a badly compultion to had sex. I was wondering why is that? And then, I found out, whoa, there is a great joy in there. It make me worried, why do we fear death so much? Scary huh?
God is plainly the Lord of Evil, the Source of Evil, there is no Power but Allah. What we call "good" and "pleasure" and "evil" and "suffering" is all from the same One Source of all, in every detail, directly controlling everything, not "Chance" except if "Chance" is used for a name of the same Sole Determiner, Qadiruun Jabar.
God is the Death, the Annihilation, the Life, the Animation. The generation of information, its determination and its cancellation.
Redneck by Lamb of God, is playing haha and keeps saying "this is an invitation".
When God is called compassionate, it is true too, because none can be "literally compassionate", we don't view people from the inside as the people view themselves, God creates and has full access to that particular information, and even on top of that, anything else we call "compassion" and "mercy" and the concepts themselves come from Allah too. So entirely that title most rightfully belongs to Allah as the Ultimate.
God is fully causing the suffering and accessing it fully, Omnipotent and Omniscient.
The Islam I promote on this website is the purest and most excellent form, even though it might seem vile to people to finally face the reality that God is indeed the all-powerful source of what they hate most, as well as what they love most, All is from God alone, there is no other, there is only the Ultimate, who is like nothing, not made of information, who creates all information, and to which all returns and is sent forth from (even moment to moment, the child you once were for example, that experience of what you saw exactly "as that person at that time" has become non-information, or else you would "Be" that kid right now, but such has ceased to "Be" and thus has returned to the Non-Information which is Allah, pure generative Power, not any substance, but Potential and Action, reflected upon and witnessed through Information and it's appearance of Animation, and can never be directly experienced, as only information can be experienced, not non-information which is not made of anything or of any material, ever existing, creator of all "times" and far beyond the partners they attribute (such as "Time, Justice, Universe" or anything else).
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God is plainly the Lord of Evil, the Source of Evil, there is no Power but Allah. What we call "good" and "pleasure" and "evil" and "suffering" is all from the same One Source of all, in every detail, directly controlling everything, not "Chance" except if "Chance" is used for a name of the same Sole Determiner, Qadiruun Jabar.
God is the Death, the Annihilation, the Life, the Animation. The generation of information, its determination and its cancellation.
Redneck by Lamb of God, is playing haha and keeps saying "this is an invitation".
When God is called compassionate, it is true too, because none can be "literally compassionate", we don't view people from the inside as the people view themselves, God creates and has full access to that particular information, and even on top of that, anything else we call "compassion" and "mercy" and the concepts themselves come from Allah too. So entirely that title most rightfully belongs to Allah as the Ultimate.
God is fully causing the suffering and accessing it fully, Omnipotent and Omniscient.
The Islam I promote on this website is the purest and most excellent form, even though it might seem vile to people to finally face the reality that God is indeed the all-powerful source of what they hate most, as well as what they love most, All is from God alone, there is no other, there is only the Ultimate, who is like nothing, not made of information, who creates all information, and to which all returns and is sent forth from (even moment to moment, the child you once were for example, that experience of what you saw exactly "as that person at that time" has become non-information, or else you would "Be" that kid right now, but such has ceased to "Be" and thus has returned to the Non-Information which is Allah, pure generative Power, not any substance, but Potential and Action, reflected upon and witnessed through Information and it's appearance of Animation, and can never be directly experienced, as only information can be experienced, not non-information which is not made of anything or of any material, ever existing, creator of all "times" and far beyond the partners they attribute (such as "Time, Justice, Universe" or anything else).
Personally I started to understand what kind of Islam you tried to promote. Something that an atheist used to shown, of the real nature of this world to attack God. But what can I say, that is the fact. At first it depressing, but I think I can get used to it. So personally, I agree with your description. That is God's true nature.
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Personally I started to understand what kind of Islam you tried to promote. Something that an atheist used to shown, of the real nature of this world to attack God. But what can I say, that is the fact. At first it depressing, but I think I can get used to it. So personally, I agree with your description. That is God's true nature.
Yes! I know, its facing the reality, then finding that whether we hate it or we like it (and we shouldn't like it really because that is crazy to like what is not really likable, such as suffering), we find that we are in a state of surrender, unable to do a thing about it really, we've reached the the final foe and we can't beat it, so we come to terms with the reality finally, and focus on making the best of it and the best we can in our plight, and knowing that whatever bad and whatever good may happen, and even what we end up doing, even our madness and our sanity, it all is from the One and goes back to the One. Thus knowing this, it gives a sense of final peace and relief and healing, where we can drop all the delusions and just worry about being charitable, loving to your family and kin and friends, worshiping as a reminder to ourselves about the truth, spreading the truth and goodness and justice to make life good around us and spread beauty and make ourselves beautiful and do what we can do. All the other things, the fruits that stem from the "bad tree", is that their basic foundation is incorrect or false. What arises from the falsehood is all kinds of bad ideas and actions that don't correspond with reality even and lead people astray. So the best is to reason clearly, but the kind of false conclusions I'm talking about are like thinking things like oh the savior is coming tomorrow so we should just stay in our homes and wait and whatever.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7Rj-VNW6aw
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Thus knowing this, it gives a sense of final peace and relief and healing, where we can drop all the delusions and just worry about being charitable, loving to your family and kin and friends, worshiping as a reminder to ourselves about the truth, spreading the truth and goodness and justice to make life good around us and spread beauty and make ourselves beautiful and do what we can do.
Seriously, are you drunk or using somekind of drugs? Weeds? Knowing this world, I had no idea, how should I do it. I still cant understand that yet.
Anyway, there is a popular saying in here "If life is not hard, there would be no paradise, at best you won a toaster" ;D
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Seriously, are you drunk or using somekind of drugs? Weeds? Knowing this world, I had no idea, how should I do it. I still cant understand that yet.
Haha no drugs at all, maybe just mentally retarded or something.