The great secret of Islam - the hidden history of Islam revealed
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Uthman would have then destroyed all previous collections and fragments throughout the caliphate. He distributed the true version of the Quran, in the form of five copies of reference, in Medina, Damascus, Kufa and Basra (in present Iraq), and Mecca. This is the version that the 1923 edition of Cairo theoretically endorsed. It's still a reference to all Muslims. After the assassination of Uthman in 656 Ali, his cousin, succeeded him, disciple and historical companion of Muhammad. He will face a very serious civil war within the umma, the first fitna. Ali was assassinated in 661, ending the Caliphate of "rachidun" ("rightly guided", the first successors of Muhammad whom Sunni Islam recognizes as divinely inspired models and leaders. The assassination of Ali still amplified the civil war with the quarrel of his estate, covering both the nature of the legacy of Muhammad as the clash of political ambitions already observed above. It eventually irreparably split Sunni Muslims, from Shiite and other dissident branches to simplify, Sunnis will prove supporters of political succession of Ali through Hasan, his son who takes after him in 661 less than a year, especially via Muawiya, the governor of Syria, which very quickly confronts Hasan by force. The Shiites want a religious legitimacy to the successor of Muhammad, an imam more than a military commander, and what's more, a descendant of the Prophet. They recognized Hasan, son of Ali and grand son of Muhammad, as their leader. After the death of Hasan in 670 (they say he was poisoned by his own wife by order of Muawiya, nine years after his ouster by the latter), they support his brother Hussein (the third Imam of Shiites, after his brother Hasan and his father Ali). They therefore oppose Muawiya, the eternal adversary of Ali and his son, when he became caliph (the first Umayyad caliph). You should know also the vicissitudes of the opposition of Muawiyah against Ali had triggered the split of a third branch of Muslims among the supporters of Ali, the Kharijites. It is they who had killed Ali in 661.
Let us remember that Muawiya imposed himself as caliph, and transferred the capital from Medina to Damascus. He ended the elective Caliphate in choosing his son Yazid to succeed him on his death in 680, thus founding the Umayyad dynasty. Yazid has Hussein killed, and until 750 Umayyad reign amid the second fitna and endless religious and political wars. All this time the holy war of expansion of the umma against the infidels continues Persians, Byzantines, Berbers and other North Africans, Visigoths in Spain. The conquest extends even to the Franks and Central Asia. Internal wars continue until, at the end of a new civil war, the Umayyads were defeated at the battle of the great Zab (750) by As-Saffah. He became caliph and then established his new dynasty, the Abbasids to rule the ummah from its new capital, Baghdad, marking the rise of Persian influence in the empire. After that Mongols impose themselves in the 13th century and the Ottomans in the 14th century.
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Thanks for the long essay. Unfortunately, it kept things covered. Muawiya guy was not Muslim, but Christian. Previously, I posted link to a piece about him here http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607759.msg375166#msg375166
All this time the holy war of expansion of the umma against the infidels continues Persians, Byzantines, Berbers and other North Africans, Visigoths in Spain.
This needs more research.
Myth or Reality The ?Invasion? and Spread of Islam in Spain
Karin De VillaThe majority of Spaniards, as well as people worldwide that have heard about "Muslim Spain," know about the conquest of Spain, (Hispania at the time) by the Arabs. However, few deepen their search in analyzing whether this could actually be a logical approach, considering the number of people that came to the Iberian Peninsula in 711 AD. Whether a person should or should not believe what is written about Spain and its history, the article's main point is to challenge one's own ideas and thoughts in regards to how this event actually took place and value the seeds that this convivencia1 planted for the history of Spain and the world.
This article is mostly based on the book of the Spanish historian and paleontologist, Ignacio Olag?e, La Revoluci?n Isl?mica en Occidente (The Islamic Revolution in the West), also translated into French as Les arabes n'ont jamais envahi l'Espagne (The Arabs Never Invaded Spain), which portrays some of the ideas of the historian and philologist Americo Castro, especially known for his writings about convivencia.
According to the way that history is taught in most Spanish schools, the Moors invaded the Iberian Peninsula in 711 AD. Here, the following question can be asked Who did the Moors invade? In order to understand this, it is important to give a background of the inhabitants of Hispania at the time. The Iberian Peninsula was populated by Celts, Iberians, Sephardic Jews, Romans and Visigoths. The majority of Visigoths were Unitarian, meaning that they believed in only one God and were waiting the coming of the Messiah. They also saw Jesus as a Prophet. The rulers of Hispania in 711 AD were Visigoths as well. However, it was a civilization that constantly used force as a means of controlling the citizens of the peninsula, which resulted incessant instability. It was at this time that the Arabs, according to many historians, invaded Hispania.
De la Guardia2 states that "in no way were the newcomers all Arabs."3 The leaders came from Damascus, but they were only a few, and the majority that arrived in Hispania were Muslim Berbers. She later added, as well as Dr. Francisco Layna, author and professor of Harvard University "Everybody that studies history at any university is aware that there was not an Arab invasion in 711 AD. The Gibraltar Canal that separates Morocco from Spain has always been known as a tool for merchants to trade on both the Spanish and Moroccan Coast. Hence, this was not the first time that the Berbers had visited Spain."4
We can also ask if the Arabs were in a condition to invade Spain in 711 AD or not. In the middle of the eighth century the Berbers brought the Arabs' progress to a halt twice and this suspended the conquest of Northern Africa for another fifty years. Hence, the Arabs that came to Northern Africa were weak and few and therefore could never have invaded Hispania.
Olag?e adds that people never take the time to think how the "invaders" of North Africa crossed the Gibraltar Canal in a blink of an eye. In other words, how were they able to conquer 544,192 km2, the most mountainous region in Europe, in three years? Even more astonishing is how the 7,000 men of General Tariq, were enough in number, to defeat Rodrigo and his people in the Battle of Guadalete. Olag?e continues "If our math is right, each of the 25,000 Arabs was responsible for 23 km2. Since this was too easy for them, they ran to traverse the Pyrenees to dominate France." 5 How could a person cover 23 km2 especially in those harsh and mountainous conditions? Olag?e writes that "even if these soldiers conquered Hispania in these conditions, they would each have had 23 km2 of land and therefore would be like a needle in a haystack, compared to the other populations."6 Due to these reasons, we can conclude that an Arab invasion never took place. Furthermore, if natives of the Iberian Peninsula would have resented these newcomers, Hispania would have never been Muslim, would have never planted the seeds for the Renaissance in Europe, and would have not had scientific and artistic advancements that later influenced Europe and the American continent. If it were an invasion, the natives would have forced them to leave Hispania as it occurred when Napoleon in 1807 tried to seize Spain and asked permission of the Catholic Spanish Monarchy for his French troops to pass through Spain in order to invade Portugal. However, once in Spanish territory, Napoleon declared himself Emperor of Spain. It was at this point that the Spanish population resisted and with the help of sticks and stones drove the French out of the country. This was never the case when the Muslims arrived in Spain. Actually, the natives from the Iberian Peninsula welcomed them and were happy to see someone that respected their faith and their traditions and had similar beliefs as the majority of the natives of Hispania were Unitarian Christians. They believed in only one God, saw Jesus as a Prophet and awaited the Messiah, exactly as Muslims. The following treaty was signed in 713 CE-within two years after the first organized entry of Muslims into Spain from the south under the command of Tariq ibn Ziyad-between the Arab commander Abdal-Aziz and Theodomir, the Visigothic prince of Murcia, is a proof of the freedoms the natives of Hispania enjoyed after the Arab conquests.
source http//www.fountainmagazine.com/Issue/detail/Myth-or-Reality-The-Invasion-and-Spread-of-Islam-in-Spain -
Salaam,
I hope there are more parts to come, still waiting for the hidden secret..the information thus far isnt exactly unknown at all, needless to say it's the "official" narrative parroted everywhere including universities and schools (at least definitely in "Muslim" countries) albeit in a positively, overly glorified light.
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Good quote, Reel, concerning the Iberian Peninsula.
To note, that Roman imperialism, (those glorious civilisers) and then chritianity uprooted all previous beliefs and religions present in the Peninsula, thus doing away with the original heritage of the peoples. No muslim did that, romans and christians did.
Salaam
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What is so hiddeen about this?
This is the run of the mill crap about islam and history of islam that we have been served century after entury by the holu crusades.
What a poimpous piece of shit.
Salaam
salaam bro
totally agree
it is quite a tsunami of shit and mill crapPeace
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Salaam,
I hope there are more parts to come, still waiting for the hidden secret..the information thus far isnt exactly unknown at all, needless to say it's the "official" narrative parroted everywhere including universities and schools (at least definitely in "Muslim" countries) albeit in a positively, overly glorified light.
This is only the very first chapter of a much longer thesis. The posts so far only cover the traditional account of what Islam tells about its own origins. As such I have not revealed anything yet in the existing posts. Seeing the immature reactions in this thread so far, it makes me wonder if I should continue my effort of translating this further. I'm not doing this for my own benefit you know, I master the french language perfectly well to be able to read the original transcript linked in the OP.
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What's so "secret" about the description above??
The "secret" that is not well known to most people is that
ISLAM IS AN ATTITUDE (DIEN) AND SUPPOSEDLY NOT A RELIGIONThose who possess islam attitude are being called "muslim".
"And Abraham instructed his sons and Jacob, , "O my sons, indeed Allah has chosen for you this DIEN, so do not die except while you are muslims."
(2132)Both Abraham and Jacob never proclaimed their Shahada, never met Muhammad, never did their pilgrimage to Mecca, never read the Quran (perhaps they were totally illiterate and never read any writing at all), the paper based scroll and pen technology was not yet invented during their time thus "book" is a total impossibility for them, let alone "holy book".
And of course feel free to translate the word islam and muslim to any of your native tongue..
Peaceful, Submissive, Acceptance etc..
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This is only the very first chapter of a much longer thesis. The posts so far only cover the traditional account of what Islam tells about its own origins. As such I have not revealed anything yet in the existing posts. Seeing the immature reactions in this thread so far, it makes me wonder if I should continue my effort of translating this further. I'm not doing this for my own benefit you know, I master the french language perfectly well to be able to read the original transcript linked in the OP.
Feel free to continue..
I'm interested to read on "The Birth of the Religion of Islam".
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Thanks for the long essay. Unfortunately, it kept things covered. Muawiya guy was not Muslim, but Christian. Previously, I posted link to a piece about him here http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607759.msg375166#msg375166
This needs more research.
source http//www.fountainmagazine.com/Issue/detail/Myth-or-Reality-The-Invasion-and-Spread-of-Islam-in-SpainI guess you are impatient and incapable of understanding what an "a priori" means. So far it only dealt with the traditional account. Muawiya calling himself christian is dealt with later in the thesis.
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Feel free to continue..
I'm interested to read on "The Birth of the Religion of Islam".
Who invented the religion of Islam, why and how...All this will be answered. It's just a tedious job of translating the transcript to English. I'm doing this as a favor to those not able to read/understand French. The original work is only available in French, which I think is a very informative essay about the origins of Islam. I will continue my translation job some time later. I'm willing to debate the topics mentioned when the entire essay has been posted. Please understand I can't step into a debate when this translation process is still on-going.
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The early history of Islam is revealed as tormented; three caliphs assassinated of the first four, murder of Hasan and Hussein, recurrent civil wars in the umma, holy war of conquest waged against unbelievers, let alone the brutality which the caliphs exercised their absolute authority with. The new religion of peace did not lead to appeasement. Nevertheless, the word of Allah was kept miraculously intact, and the memory of the actions of his prophet. This is the tradition (sunna), after hawking hadiths, these testimonies reported in chains of more or less solid oral transmission from the companions of Muhammad. Counting up to one and a half million compilations in the centuries that followed. Thus was reported the early history of Islam by Muslims they indeed do not possess of any contemporary Muslim historical narrative of the events recounted here. The Sira, the biography of the prophet, was written in the 9th century by Ibn Hisham, who was inspired by a lost biography, written by Ibn Ishaq a century earlier. Combining Koran, Sira and Hadith. Muslims further discern the divine message, the whole revelation contained from the start in the person of Muhammad. It is indeed a revelation from himself, from his own words (while the Quran dictates it was revealed by Gabriel) but also by his behavior of "beautiful role model" of perfect and normative example in everything he would have done or would not have done. Thus was instituted the divine law, the Sharia, written almost in its final form around the 10th century. It interpretes, explicitly and codifies this message to Muslims to live in the desired way by Allah for them and for all the earth. All elements of Islam and its worldview are then fixed and writings.
The next post will focus on the Islamic dogma.
The apologists of Islam now want to translate the word "Islam" with "peace"
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BASICS OF THE MUSLIM DOGMA
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A single god Allah, the creator and absolute master of all things, of all life and of all times nature, the passage of time, the phenomena studied by science, fortunes and misfortunes of Muslims as well as infidels only exist because Allah decides so and it happens at every moment.
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A revelation of the word of Allah to the first believer and first prophet of Allah Abraham; followed by a revelation to a rebellious humanity conducted by prophets who came successively and reminded of the divine order to correct its excesses in its application. These regular reminders to the same word of Allah require men to submit themselves completely to their Creator, by law it imposes itself on them. The great monotheistic religions that Islam calls "Religions of the book" are the three main issues of these prophets (Moses, Jesus, Mohammed), which are each directed to certain communities respectively
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The Jewish people, descendants of Abraham, a prophet of Allah, to whom Moses, the prophet of Allah, would have given a holy book, the Torah, containing the revelation of Allah; this book would announce the coming of Jesus, the Prophet of Allah and contains the commandments according to which Jews are supposed to live. But the Jews have falsified their scriptures and rejected Allah's commands given by Moses.
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Christians, branch of the Jewish community, and thus from Abraham, to whom Jesus, Prophet of Allah would have given a holy book, the Gospel (singular), containing the revelation of Allah superior to the Torah; this book would announce the coming of Muhammad, Prophet of Allah and contains the commandments by which Christians are supposed to live. But christians would have falsified their scriptures and rejected the commandments of Allah given by Jesus. The latter holds a special role among the prophets of Islam since he is recognized as a messiah, he did not die on the cross but was removed in extremis by Allah and held in reserve in heaven until the end of time.
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The Arabs, people ultimately chosen by Allah, descendants of Abraham, Prophet of Allah, and by extension, the Muslim community originating from the Arabs before their conversion, to whom Muhammad Prophet of Allah, would have given a holy book, the Quran, Allah's revelation superior to the Torah and the Gospel revelations that closes all the revelations and commandments. A book by which Muslims are supposed to live. Muslims have meanwhile kept intact their scriptures and observe Allah's commands given by Muhammad and explained by tradition.
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The absolute command given to Muslims as legitimate custodians of the ultimate word of Allah preserved in all its integrity, subjecting the entire world to the law of Allah, starting with themselves (laws including the five pillars of Islam profession of faith, prayer, Ramadan obligations, almsgiving and pilgrimage to Mecca). This is to be placed in an absolute subjection to the will of Allah, relying entirely on him and his law, according to his revealed will. The application of the law would be the key to earthly happiness and heavenly paradise after death - its non-application is leading to hell, or even worldly punishment as defined by Sharia law. And this law of control is to rid the world of infidels, unbelievers (the "kuffar" which are an offense to Allah, to his divine plan and therefore to Islam.
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The expectation of the end times occurring with the "Judgement Day", the Mahdi and the return of "Messiah Jesus" (for Sunnis), or the 12th Imam for shiites), who will fight the forces of evil, erradicating them of the earth, submitting all infidels and establishing Islam forever, for all.
This is broadly sums up what Islam says about himself, its origins and its main principles. This is a fairly coherent system, which has in any case an implacable internal logic. Historical events it stacks on top of eachother using the same determinants and obey the same as those injunctions of Islam today. This is a comprehensive worldview that directs putting everything in its proper place
This system warrants the sacred and unquestionable nature of the project of Islam, which is to save the world by submitting to Islam, either by conquest or by conversion
IT IS THE WILL OF ALLAHThis system explains how this will of Allah came to Muslims
This IS THE REVELATION OF THE QURAN, WORD OF ALLAHThis system explains the course of action that Muslims must hold according to the will of Allah (certainly pious Muslims)
IT IS THE EXAMPLE OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD, SENT BY ALLAHThis system demystifies the inconsistencies of the world, such as the presence of other monotheistic religions. Every one a perfect Muslim born from Adam and the origin of the world, the majority ignore the will of Allah, yet proven otherwise throughout history
ONLY MUSLIMS REALLY APPLY THE WILL OF ALLAHIf there is unrest among Muslims, unhappiness in their countries, it can only be because the perfect will of Allah is misapplied. While some criticize Muslims, this can only be because they are ignorant although they know little about the will of Allah, that explains everything, which already provides everything, by definition.
MANY QUESTIONS, ONE ANSWER KNOWING AND APPLYING THE WILL OF ALLAHThis worldview explains anything so much better than to question it. It is therefore strictly forbidden to do in Islam. We offer despite this questions to this vision, its speech, its system, telling a different story, one that Muslims today are unaware of, one of the first centuries Muslims have been withheld from the story of the great secret of Islam.
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All this will be answered. It's just a tedious job of translating the transcript to English. I'm doing this as a favor to those not able to read/understand French. The original work is only available in French, which I think is a very informative essay about the origins of Islam. I will continue my translation job some time later. I'm willing to debate the topics mentioned when the entire essay has been posted. Please understand I can't step into a debate when this translation process is still on-going.
Thanks for doing this rlz...
To those posting, please refrain from abuse.
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THE GREAT SECRET OF ISLAM
As we mentioned in the introduction, in essence, our world knows Islam no other than by what it says of itself, by her Muslim history - even, considered fair and reasonable. This is the assertion of most Islamic scholars on television sets. But here in recent years, major breakthroughs on this story took place new research items, archaeological discoveries, new linguistic approaches and codicological (referring to ancient texts), taking into account the Aramaic context imposing as that of the birth of Islam, rigorous studies of Muslim texts and other elements.
A doctoral thesis in theology and religious history was done in 2004 at the University of Strasbourg II by an amazing researcher, Edouard-Marie Father Gallez , student and follower of the work of Father Antoine Moussalli - which are rooted themselves in previous works of Middle Eastern researchers . This thesis is also based on its own research and the resumption of a colossal set of previous research, which led to major breakthroughs already mentioned. We will mention in particular the following
- "Classic" Islamology remarkable discoveries were made by Regis Blachere, Alfred-Louis de Pr?mare, Patricia Crone, Michael Cook, Maria Theresa Urvoy Gerd Puin, Manfred Kropp, William Dye, Robert Kerr, and Christoph G?nter L?ling Luxenberg;
- More or less scattered intellectual studies, historians, archaeologists, geographers, linguists, scientists and religious;
- Historical and religious Traditions - starting of course with the traditions and Muslim texts - and also the Jewish traditions and those of the Eastern Churches;
- New approach of origins of Christianity, notably by analysis of the Dead Sea scrolls.
By linking the various aspects addressed separately by each of these subjects, the author assembles the different pieces of the puzzle as part of a comprehensive approach, supported by facts, testimonials, a multitude of evidence and consistent indications that are abundantly found listed and referenced in his works. It offers a scientific explanation to the appearance of Islam, documenting its real origins and different historical vicissitudes that have enabled it to constitute itself as religion. And thus, it helps to understand what Islam truly is.
In this new and explosive approach results are put forward from a historical perspective, enriched by the latest findings of research.
Of course, there is no absolute truth in terms of historical research. Researchers seek, discover, refute, explain, and still continue to look to try to approach the truth more closely. As such, this approach can not be directed against Muslims. They have nothing to fear, nothing to lose and everything to gain in this research of the truth, in the same way that Christians eventually benefit from this same work that begun long ago about the historical origins of Christianity. This is the story of the great secret of Islam, a story which the reader will be able to see how it differs from the official history.
He published his thesis (1000 pages) under the title "The Messiah and His Prophet". It updates from this work, including a recent essay, The Islamic-Christian Misunderstanding, Regular publications on a website dedicated to his thesis and interventions within the EEChO association.
Joseph Azzi, Monsignor Haddad-Dora, father superior Jerusalem) -
DIVINE REVELATIONS IN POST-CHRISTIANITY
Israel year 30
This story begins in Israel 30 years after Christ. Israel is then primarily a people, the Jewish people, a people shaped by religion. According to tradition (the biblical tradition), a man, Abraham, would have responded to the call of God about 3800 years ago and left Mesopotamia to a promised land, which turned out to be Israel. God's promise to Abraham was that of donating land and innumerable descendants. The Hebrew people claim this descent; Abraham would be the patriarch, the first jew in a sense - the second being his son Isaac. Since Abraham, the Hebrew people lived in the "Alliance" God was revealed to them and chose to bring them this revelation. And so, over the very progressive historical building of the Hebrew people and the construction of its report to a god teaching them about him, this people had gradually recognized a unique and exclusive god. He gave them his faith, rejected the idols, and they adhered to a strange religion in the pagan world, worshiping the one God, creator and protector, "the Lord". Patriarchs like Moses, many prophets like Elijah, Isaiah and Daniel stood throughout a turbulent history to lead the people, teach, admonish, remind them of their duties to God, the sense of God. Their calls to order, their commandments, laws and immemorial traditions of the Hebrew people were gathered and compiled in a set of texts. Of these, one in particular, the Torah, covers in five books the history of the world since its creation, the history of the Hebrew people and a fundamental law governing the ways of Jewish life at that time moral life, relationships with God, strict separation of Jewish and non-Jewish (the non-jew was supposed to defile a jew by mere contact, which had allowed this people to build, preserve and transmit its religious heritage in the hostile ancient world); also included is a codification of everyday life, rites of purity and other rules of behavior.
According to tradition, the Torah was dictated by God to Moses on Mount Sinai, during the exodus of the Hebrew people out of Egypt. It is at the heart of the life of the Hebrews, many of whom know it by heart together with other sacred books (Psalms and the books of the Prophets). They transmit them in their families and in the community, in Aramaic, which is the common language of understanding of sacred texts (the Targums). Among the commandments of God whose observance is prescribed, one in particular is crucial it is the devotion given to the temple of Jerusalem. This temple is specific to the Hebrew people. It is for them the place of the real presence of God on earth, his house (the word "temple" does not exist in Semitic languages that use the word "house" instead). It is this that makes it a cult, by the sacrifice of animals and various offerings. It is a minimum annual obligation for every jew, during a pilgrimage. The temple originally housed the Ark of the Covenant (the chest which contained the tablets of the law of Moses), lost after the destruction of the first temple.
With its reconstruction over the vagaries of history, Jerusalem is crowned in AD 30 by a monumental and sumptuous temple, the temple of Herod the Great. Located like its predecessor Solomon's temple at the Temple Mount, Mount Moriah, on the supposed place of the sacrifice of Isaac by Abraham, it consists of several enclosures. At its heart lies the temple itself, a huge building whose footprint forms a sort of large T priests enter it by the horizontal bar, its pediment, and the bottom of the vertical bar of the T presents itself the form a large cube, separated from the inlet by a curtain. This is the Holy of Holies, that is where God resides on earth, in his temple, in this big cubical empty room. No one ever enters the Holy of Holies, under penalty of death, except the Grand priest alone, once a year. Outside the temple offerings and animal sacrifices are made in the name of God. This temple is a wonder of the world that was then the pride of the Hebrew people.
Israel in 30 AD is also a land, a land promised by God, given by God. While the Hebrew people already underwent, for a long time, a considerable diaspora (in Egypt, Persia, Rome and throughout the ancient world to China such that all of this diaspora, present mainly in the commercial towns, would have added up to 2 to 3 million people at the time, either about half of the Jewish people). The attachment to the promised land remains very strong. But in the year 30, the land of Israel is "outraged" in many respects.
First, it is disunited divided into many kingdoms and provinces, governed by several monarchs (tetrarchs). Samaria, this territory which lies roughly in the middle, is populated by Samaritans, non-Jews (or rather heretical Jewish), that is to say unclean for any serious Jewish people (especially the Judeans , masters of Jerusalem and its temple, who look haughtily at other Jews). All around Israel, lastly, we find idolatrous kingdoms and people. Moreover, centuries ago the land of Israel was occupied, subjected to a foreign invader The Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians and the Greeks, the Romans and now, based on Jewish local authorities pacts, including religious authorities. Judah (Judea and Samaria-Edom) in particular was run by a Roman prefect (Pontius Pilate). The Pax Romana is however relatively kind to the Hebrew people despite the recriminations against the Roman tax traditional religious and political structures been maintained by the Romans, the temple worship and the worship of one god are met (very many Hebrews also practice their religion in Rome itself).With many Hebrews, especially in Judea, however, continues the dream of independence and national reunification, fed by the memory of the blessed times of the great Jewish kings (David, Solomon), Unified Jewish land where everyone was in compliance with the laws according to the divine plan. Also fed by a certain interpretation of the Scriptures and of God's promises they realize was it not promised by God through His prophets that Israel will prevail, but that foreign kings would come one day to rule Israel and serving themselves? A messiah, a savior sent by God was even announced by the prophets. A descendant of King David, specifically, a new king who will restore the monarchy, who will free Israel on which he will let reign God with the temple as a shining example for the world . Many messiahs arise and saviors of revolt in these times of religious excitement. The Jews have a long history of revolt against their invaders, like the Maccabean revolt in the second century BC; and also that of Judas the Galilean, in the year 6. His revolt against the Roman legate Quirinius ended in 2000 with the crucifixion of his supporters ... But since the advent of the Emperor Tiberius, things seem to have calmed on the surface, "sub Tiberio ear," as Tacitus wrote.
"jewish" (not capitalized) refers here to religion, "Jew" (capitalized) refers to ethnicity (and by extension, also to religion). Jewish religious practice had changed considerably over the events we are describing, we will use preferentially the word "Hebrew" (strictly related to ethnicity) over "Jew", for it is less subject to ambiguity.
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Jesus, his message, his followers and their excesses ...
From the Hebrew context, the story of the great secret of Islam will require in-depth understanding of the impact of certain aspects of Christian revelation in mentality and history.
Here comes indeed a man whose impact will change everything for the Hebrew people, and even for the world. Jesus appears AD 15 to AD 27 in Israel and began three years of itinerant preaching. He is a rabbi who knows the Torah to the letter and writes and teaches in the synagogues and in the temple of Jerusalem. Interpreting these writings, he proclaimed a new discourse, unheard of. He invokes the authority of God which he called "son", "forgives sins" in his name, and would perform miraculous signs. It galvanizes crowds and he gathers around him a group of men and women, curious, passionate, disciples and apostles. Among other things he clarifies the question of evil and the ability to be delivered, to be saved. This is an absolutely radical novelty in the world of that time, affecting psychological motives much deeper than those that were eligible by pagan cults (but the Hebrew religion of that time was already preparing, especially in its law, its hope, or in its separation of pure and impure). By introducing the prospect of salvation, he broke with the vision of "natural" evil, included as part of the order of things.
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This is only the very first chapter of a much longer thesis. The posts so far only cover the traditional account of what Islam tells about its own origins. As such I have not revealed anything yet in the existing posts. Seeing the immature reactions in this thread so far, it makes me wonder if I should continue my effort of translating this further. I'm not doing this for my own benefit you know, I master the french language perfectly well to be able to read the original transcript linked in the OP.
Salaam,
Oh no, don't get me wrong, I was and am waiting for more, it's a good read! I do greatly appreciate your effort. I'd say please continue, ignore the whining(s).
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Good quote, Reel, concerning the Iberian Peninsula.
To note, that Roman imperialism, (those glorious civilisers) and then chritianity uprooted all previous beliefs and religions present in the Peninsula, thus doing away with the original heritage of the peoples. No muslim did that, romans and christians did.
Salaam
Thanks Huruf. I believe each war the historians speak of must be investigated thoroughly. Each leader responsible for the so called Islamic conquest must also be inspected. I checked only a few. Found some anomalies in them. I no more believe that the traditional Islam started forming from collective thinking. We'll talk about that later. I'm interested to read runninglikezebras' next posts on the secrets.
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@Reel for sure there are many historical inconsistencies in the 'official' account that are easily exposed. We'll certainly discuss those later. In the meantime I received a message from the original author of the work, Olaf, who told me that people are working on an English translation and the work I'm doing here will be used to speed up that process. So that's good news, the entire work as an e-book will be available at some point for everyone. I will post some more translated pages in this thread soon.