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Peace fusion.
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So twisting of words by Good logic that different sects made these religious names are not correct in my view, even if it was, God accept these names as shown above.
What do you mean GOD accepts these religions?
GOD says "if they believe and do good" first!!!
GOD says if the disbelievers repent and do good they will be fine. It does not mean GOD accepts the disbelievers
GOD says clearly those who divide people and break up into sects do not be part of it. DO not belong with them.
GOD knows there will be these religions, but if people belonging to these religions believe first ,i.e believe GOD not to set up partners with HIm,to unite under HIS only religion _Sumbission and total loyalty to HIM Alone- and do good,then they will be accepted by HIM.
I am saying to you "true Islam" is a state of mind" not" traditional islam" that you describe and what your videos deal with.
Is this not clear in Qoran?
GOD bless you.
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Salaam everyone,
It does not matter what we label ourselves as. If you believe in the one God, believe in the hereafter and judgement and do good and abstain and stay clear from wrong and evil (what is good and what is wrong in God's book can be found in the Quran), then what you label yourself as does not matter.
It is not acceptable to God that partners be setup with God (physical materials, prophets, scholars, other people, egos, wishes, the self, accepting people's sayings about what God says or means without first hand reflection and knowledge from reading the book) or that you deny God while you know, nor that you take other being(s) as god(s) instead.
As always, this is good advice, go back to the Quran, and read it from beginning to end, giving each verse its due. Dont skim through. And dont let the lack of arabic knowledge as an excuse deter you. There are scores of translations in other languages. Use the best of them via comparison. It is time consuming, and does demand attention and concentration. But if you can do this with an open mind, clear all of the interpretations and opinions you have from other people, and then begin. You will find no disputes or crookedness in it. Nor will you find that it seems to say something but means something else, no, that will only happen if you read out of context. It makes clear what is an allegory or parable, what is ambiguous and what is absolutely direct as the core. You may find translation issues however that makes a verse not fit in the overall context and central theme of the Quran and those are issues worthwhile bringing up.
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Would you please provide a clear definition of your "true islam" state of mind, so that it will be crystal clear for me and every one?
Is there also true Christianity and Judaism definitions? Or there was only true Islam from the beginning in which a true Christian today is also following a true islam? Please clarify because every one seems to define their own version of True Islam as an excuse to elaborate their point of view...cheers
I am saying to you "true Islam" is a state of mind" not" traditional islam" that you describe and what your videos deal with.
Is this not clear in Qoran?
GOD bless you.
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He's no different than that European moron that said Europe should only take in Christian refugees and that Europeans are becoming a 'minority' in their own region despite the fact that he is wrong.
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Peace Fusion.
Qoran defines "true Islam" to us
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If you agree that GOD possesses the most powerful argument ( above) ,then read on
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You choose which translation and what language you prefer yourself.
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The mind that submits to the Creator and truly believes in accountability and follows the commandments stated above is the "true Muslim". i.e the original religion of Abraham,Moses. Jesus and Muhammed.GOD bless you.
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Dear All,
I still feel that am not able to convey my frustration well enough and hence the feedback is sort of shifting away from the thoughts that I shared with you all. You guys are coming up with different logic in order to sort of defend the mainstream Islam by pointing out the same existed in other religions at some point in time etc etc.
I wasn't defending mainstream Islam. If you just notice the news samples I posted you will see that they are not from ancient time. I asked you to ponder on why when people of other religion do similar things mainstream media doesn't pay attention to it.
That guy in the video was saying "In Iraq, Egypt and Pakistan, the last christian communities are facing extinction".
I have Christian friends from Pakistan. They have a big community in Canada. None complains about any kind of extinction. They go to Pakistan whenever they like. As for Iraq, we know my America left no one safe there. Egypt is an odd case. It wasn't what we see now. This video is an example of this https//youtu.be/TX4RK8bj2W0Maybe Muslims in Europe are doing bad things, but there is no way to "learn" about this from the Oskar guy because he does not present factual evidence about it in his speech.
He says, "They are supposed to conquer and subdue our western world"
Evidence?He says, "As our political elite bend their necks before a certain religious dogma which is completely alient to our intellectual history, our values and rule of law."
Most of the Muslims of Europe are refugees from countries where "Europe" and my America are waging wars and providing arms to terrorists to continue the misery. Why doesn't he urge the Europeans to tell the political elite to stop this? That would stop the refugees from coming. He must note that Syria before the silly war was more open than Australia.He says, "Lebanon will become Islamic state in the next decades"
And who gave him this information? Does he have connection with terrorists?He says, "We just shrug our shoulders when girls are forced into marriage"
Where is the evidence of how many are being forced? And he probably should start working on cutting us Americans from the west because almost in all our 50 states we have law that gives parents the right to force their children into marriage before they turn 18. And it is happening, but not newsworthy because it would make us look hypocrite to the world.He says, "And integrated Muslims are pressured and threatened"
Just like him maybe? Doesn't his speech sound like he is pressuring/seducing the people to take law in their hands against Muslims?He says, "And we look the other way, as the women are beaten"
Oh well, he should have also added "Just as we look the other way "when our own citizens sell and buy underage girls for prostitution", "when catholic schools are sodomizing kids", "when people in the court say they saw pope along with his men sacrifice kids in Vatican's basement", "when kids of the 70's come out to say that they were sodomized by top judges, cops and royals" and the list goes on.He says, "We think we can soften the power-lusting "holy warriors" with social benefits"
lol, the line was added just to anger people more. Nowhere in the world, social benefits are given for this kind of weird reason.He says, "My dear friends in the audience, we are not fighting against people, we are fighting for people!"
Now he sounds like a terrorist!But he should review his own speech and see how he is not different from ISIS, Taliban and Al Qaida.
I don't disagree that there are problematic Muslims out there. But this guy's speech sounds overly shallow and aggressive. He isn't different from Geller who goes around defending "freedom of speech" from Muslims, but get the funny definition of her own name removed from Urban dictionary.
Now the question is, what should we do about "Mainstream Muslim" problem of Europe? We don't even see Islam like them. The best answer to the problem probably can be found in sunniforum or shiachat. Ask them the question.
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Is this Oskar guy a Christian? He would be very hypocritical then. Lebanon is already a Christian state if not an Islamic State. Lebanon's problems is not only Islamists but even moronic Christian extremists who think they belong to an ancient ethnicity when in reality many of them are from Europe whose European ancestry were absorbed by Saladin when Crusaders couldn't afford going back. The Sabra and Shatila massacre was committed by Lebanese Christian terrorists
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre
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Many thanks to those who replied and I learned from your wisdom.
May I ask to have whatspp-connect with any one who is not afraid and can guide me further, as I feel most of the folks here do not want to come out in the open.
I will wait for positive replies.
cheers
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I watched the following clip during random youtube browse.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCW2hxux3Ro
No matter how much I like to defend Islam, or Muslims, what the man said makes sense from where he or they stand.
I am not going into the debate of how west have exploited the world nations in the past but my point of being sad is what Islam has become eventually; a religion which is being looked upon as causing trouble.By being here on this site and being able to understand many things in a much better way than the conventional islam, the question still haunts me that despite all of that, Islam as a religion should have not reached to this point. The people who spead Islam has become a joke of nations in every aspect of life; consumers. The folks who were converted to Islam have had not full understanding and broken into multiple sects and not knowing the Arabic language off Quran has made them more ignorant.
The most painful part is when the person complained about Islam breaching their mode of life and immigrants not able to mix with the culture and some how imply to force upon their belief onto the foreign land and its people.
Anyway, maybe perhaps am not able to comprehend my thoughts but I welcome any words of comfort or reconciliation as to what is happening and why Islam has failed the humanity in general and why every other nation of religion is at war with it.
The following video made me shocked and laugh literally.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksNvokBcKGw
Cheers
Why should anyone try to stop you from feeling that way? You feeling listless about Islam is an important step and meditation, if you can harness it to your benefit. Face your thoughts, bleed them from your fingers onto this screen, lets see what is on your mind!
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Why should anyone try to stop you from feeling that way? You feeling listless about Islam is an important step and meditation, if you can harness it to your benefit. Face your thoughts, bleed them from your fingers onto this screen, lets see what is on your mind!
Finally a post which makes sense to me, thank you. Yes I have a great feeling towards Islam(Quran) and I would like to get logical and comforting answers to all of my doubts, only then I guess I will feel like a true believer.
Cheers
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Finally a post which makes sense to me, thank you. Yes I have a great feeling towards Islam(Quran) and I would like to get logical and comforting answers to all of my doubts, only then I guess I will feel like a true believer.
Cheers
I promise you I have all the answers. I know it is a bold claim, but my Islam is beautiful. So talk to me. You can talk to me via email [email protected] and can also ask me whatever you want here. Some of the stuff I say may sound controversial but it is based in the strongest logic, logical necessity. When one reads the Qur'an in that context, it becomes almost like a fresh reading, that finally has the correct impact. The things can be hard to acknowledge though, but the resistance to the truths generally stems from facing the dark truths of reality. The end result is not an unhappy person though, but one who sees clearly and is compassionate with the right background in understanding. Almost everything I say sounds contrary to the common truisms and comforts people give, but it is all confirmed strongly in the Qur'an and even the other world scriptures, and is far away from the typical human errors in thinking.
So please share what is going on, you'll find most people will respond to you with good intentions but rather stupid reactions to your fears and doubts, whereas fear and doubt can be considered beautiful gifts from Allah that enhance one's religion immensely and are a sign of great opening and progress.
I love when people doubt, when they begin to question, because it can be the dawning of the destruction of secret idolatry which has resided in them unquestioned. Our religion is iconoclasm, we need to face the ridiculousness and destroy and destroy and kill and kill until we reach the Foe which can not be defeated, the Ultimate, and there we surrender. That was the religion of Ibrahim too.
