The great secret of Islam - the hidden history of Islam revealed

[runninglikezebras]

@Jafar, you make a good point. Indeed the shahada was enough to be a part of the caliphate, which is a revolutionary idea as you put it well. But keep in mind, a similar argument was used by the judeonazarenes to persuade and incorporate the Arabs into their project. A simple shahada would be enough to be part of the judeonazarene project that would return the Messiah to Jerusalem and lead their troops to victory, making them the selected/chosen elite authorized by God. This argument was so persuasive it completely surprised the Byzantine Empire. The isolated groups of judeo-nazarene communities were 'suddenly' (in reality this took quite some time) accompanied and supported by a large force of Arabs.

The next part of the translation will shed some more light on how Islam establishes itself with Abd-Al Malik, which will also show the caliphate did use some of the features of the Byzantine Empire (centralized administration, language, religious text etc).

[runninglikezebras]

Abd al-Malik (685-705) the foundations of Islam

Abd Al-Malik presents himself as a strong ruler accentuating the history of the Arab conquerors. Claiming to be the sole Caliph, he is working from the beginning of his reign to regain control of the Umma he consolidates its initial positions and then, once insured of its bases, from Damascus to Egypt through Jerusalem, it absorbs the "anticaliphate" of' Abd-Allaah ibn al-Zubayr. He will rely on the general Hajjaj, who was for him both a great minister and a great war leader. He was distinguished in the victorious campaign against Musab Ibn al-Zubayr, brother of Abd Allah, who ruled Mesopotamia (more or less modern Iraq), Abd al-Malik sent him to settle the account with Abd Allah, who was entrenched with his armies around Mecca. The rebel was eventually beheaded and crucified in 692, and his followers were massacred without mercy.

Thus eradicating all opposition and incorporating wars of conquest, particularly in North Africa and against Byzantium, the caliph and his minister were working for the political and military unification of the umma. They reorganize the caliphate by centralizing reforms, inspired in particular by the functioning of the Byzantine Empire (Christian and Jewish experts formerly in his service had been involved). Note in particular the introduction of a new currency, the mark of a sovereign state - the dirham struck with the effigy of the Caliph (see image) - and the imposition of Arabic as an official language (of the court). The written language will thus be set in the late 7th century and evolve relatively to the current literary Arabic. The latter will prove decisive from a religious point of view, since this work of "fabricating" the Arabic language led by grammarians went hand in hand with of the work interpretation and fixation (including the use of vowels) of the Qur'anic text. This can be more widely disseminated within the umma - but not too much however, remaining in principle reserved for the use of religious leaders in support of the speeches justifying the superiority of the Arabs, their intended domination as willed by God and their conquests. Alongside the political reconquest, Abd Al-Malik therefore also commits to a reshuffle of work of the "religion of Abraham" inherited from the Emigrants, in a logic of justification of his own power.

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Coin with the image of Abd-Al Malik stating "mhmdrswlllh" "Muhammad messenger of God"

Indeed, instead of being frontally opposed to the figure of Muhammad who had been exhumed (notably by Ibn Zubayr) to destabilize the Caliphates authority, Abd al-Malik (with his advisers) will have the stroke of genius to recover this figure in their advantage by developing him into their religious canon. From 690, we thus see a proliferation of Muhammad's prophetic claims asserted by Abd Al-Malik himself on the Dome of the Rock - built by him, as we shall see, the coins minted from 690 by the Umayyad, revealing the words "Muhammad Rasul Allah" ("Muhammad is the messenger of God" or "Blessed be the messenger of God&quot Abd Al-Malik therefore takes up the figure of Muhammad. He boasts with the legacy of the revelation that made him the authority of "messenger of God" (this is the meaning of the association on these pieces with the effigy of the Caliph next to the formula "Muhammad Rasul Allah&quot. He thus founded the divine origin of his power and justifies his claim of world conquest. By posing as Muhammad's successor, he also credits his religious authority, his status as commander of the faithful - and therefore, it disassembles the main argument of critics who were opposed to him being of the authority of "Rasul" (cf. . Note 105). To this end, he will collect and consolidate the currencies representing Zubayr as "Rasul Allah" and replace them with his own. It is under the rule of Abd al-Malik that authorship of the Qur'an will be accredited to the new prophet Muhammad finally a fixed text, it was necessary to give it a writer. It was especially necessary to prevent the opponents of the caliph from appropriating the figure of Muhammad. The terms of the revelation remain rather vague ; they do not establish less the final break with the judeonazarene origins, founding a religion that didn't exist before, as revealed by the construction of the Dome of the Rock.

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Image dome of the rock

What is the actual meaning of the Dome of the Rock which Abd Al-Malik had built in Jerusalem? The meaning of this building continues to intrigue historians when they stick to the presuppositions of Islamic history (especially the pseudo-primacy of Mecca). Built in the late 7th century (there is debate about the early date of 692 as corresponding to the beginning of the work or its completion), this prestigious monument that dominates with its splendor all religious monuments in Jerusalem (at least what remained of churches and Christian sanctuaries after the destruction of the century - Jerusalem and Palestine is still predominantly Christian) celebrates the affirmation of a new religion supposedly prevailing over all others, under the authority of the caliph. We now know that before there stood the "Masjid Umar", place of prostration of Omar (this is why the Dome of the Rock still continues to be traditionally called Mosque of Omar ), that is to say the cube constructed by judeonazarenes on the supposed site of the ancient temple of Jerusalem. Since Abd Al-Malik came to power, he left this building as restored under Muawiya and attested for by c hronicles of travelers .

The new caliph of the sanctuary will bring back the "Abrahamic" memory which some Jewish traditions (and also the judeonazarene faith) associated with the Temple Mount (identified at Mount Moriah), as a place of sacrifice of Isaac he makes the summit - which formed possibly the basis of the old sacrificial altar in the days of the Temple - the center of the dome, around which the faithful are invited to stroll. In doing so, Abd al-Malik breaks away with the eschatological meaning of the judeonazarene first cube in benefit of the celebration of what seems to be the desire to place the three "Abrahamic religions" under his authority - this is what is suggested by its mosaics. The Dome of the Rock is therefore devoid of Qibla (Makkah or other) it is centered on itself. It is only later that Abd al-Malik integrates Mecca in his religious corpus, thus affirming his imperium over the former stronghold of his rival Ibn al-Zubayr. The sanctuary that he will rebuild will have the approximate shape of a cube (instead, apparently, a hemicycle), and the figures of Abraham and Ishmael will be attached to it, removing temporarily the meaning of the of the dome of the rock as a homonym for Jerusalem dome (we will see later how the Muslim discourse will evolve to integrate the rock into its corpus).

Prophecy, Quran, completion of Abrahamic religions ... We are witnessing under Abd al-Malik the link to all elements of the future founders of Islam. They are at the service of a discourse that begins to display for the first time consistency, tangible internal logic since the retraction of the judeonazarene foundation. To understand this, we must imagine how the "religion of Abraham" was deeply modified in the interests of Arab leaders. Its successive manipulations have continued to trigger new manipulations, caused by their own inconsistencies, dispute within the ummah, and because of the influence of external factors, as explained in the following schematic.

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In detail the external factors contained therein which weighed on the "religion of Abraham"

• Inconsistencies the religion may be renounced by external critics, including Jewish and Christian. It will explain the great care that will be taken to prevent non-Muslims access to Muslim texts on the one hand, and to prevent Muslims access to the texts of other religions (or have them explained and preached), on the other hand. The mere presence of these other religions, consistent, with the sacred writings of prophets and holy places works like a spur for the evolution of the "religion of Abraham". It wants to be " supra-confessional ", that is to say above all and completing all revelations. It will be essential that it can give, at least in appearance, the pledges of this claim to stand as a religion, that is founded and honorable. In practice, however, it held its superiority more by coercion exerted internally and externally on the ummah over the infidels.
• The head of power can be challenged by external enemies of the ummah, such as the Byzantine Empire - disputed or conversely strengthened in case of victory and conquest of new territories.

What triggered this mechanism is the retraction of the judeonazarenes in 640, the first manipulation. Since then, they have only a succession, each caliph trying both to control the umma by force and justify his power by this logic of reverse reconstruction of religion and history. The phenomenon has continued to repeat, adding layer upon layer of manipulation and manipulation to the "religion of Abraham" as preached by judeonazarenes. Which was a religion basing itself on the crazy project of achieving to eradicate the evil of the earth - with ultimately the Arabs, having removed the judedonazarenes have resuming their account by changing the terms. Thus little by little by the destruction of rewriting, the phenomenon produces the face of a new religion. It brings an equal amount of strife, civil war and violence, and more before declaring war against the world, the religion, the future Islam by nature is already at war against itself. By its very firm grip of the ummah, Abd Al-Malik has achieved the feat to slow down, calm down somewhat this vicious cycle, by achieving a balance between the religious and the political. He relied on two main drivers on the one hand, the affirmation of the power of the Caliphate, a strong power, centralized, better organized, able to more or less effectively curb dissension within the umma; on the other hand, the establishment of a religious body better meeting the ideological-political needs. Thus the Islamic religion began to take shape under Abd al-Malik although Mecca for example, has not yet the status it enjoys today. It's with him that the fundamentals, the pillars and the worldview are fixated that will structure it across the centuries. These same fundamentals we have mentioned earlier in the description of the Muslim dogma (see earlier post). Everything now revolves roughly consistent around concepts of divine will, revelation of this desire by a succession prophecies completed by the latter, of a holy book, holy places and an elected community to accomplish this will worldwide. The time of "proto-Islam", the Arabs and their allegiance to judeonazarenes, is long gone. The time of the "first-Islam," one of Arab leaders trying to somehow justify their dominance is coming to an end.

The time of Islam will be able to begin

The specific terms for the revelation to Muhammad have long been fluctuating. John of Damascus wrote in 746 (in his Treaty of Heresies) that Muslim masters in Damascus claimed Mohammed claimed had received it in his sleep. It was then not yet a question of the Angel Gabriel.
Archaeologists have found in 1992, between Jerusalem and Bethlehem, the remains of a monumental church, the Church of the Kathisma. Prior to the Dome of the Rock, as it has a triple octagon plan centered on a rock, everything indicates that Abd al Malik was inspired by this to build his own monument. It was converted into a mosque by the Arabs, then destroyed in the 11th century.
A new religion which still call itself "religion of Abraham"; the name of Islam shall appear around the year 720. See in this regard the work of Manfred Kropp (his lectures at the Coll?ge de France are referenced in annex).
Historians do not always understand that nickname. Miryam Rosenheim Ayalon writes, " despite the name" Mosque of Omar ", which is often attributed to him, it is not a mosque and can in no way be attributed to the caliph Omar "(in" Art and Islamic archeology in Palestine &quot. Indeed, it would be the only mosque not to present a qibla, that is to say, outward direction for prayer (qibla let alone facing Mecca). They simply forget the previous cube, built by the emigrants, and the reason for its construction.
cf. note 92 on chronic Arculf the pilgrim.

[reel]

@ reel

I am the author of this "soap opera". I am very thankfull to Runninglikezebras for his translation. At this point, there are many pages left to be translated, including a short quranic study.

Wait for the rest of the translation, you will learn how the quran has been written and rewritten by grammar, rhyme and theology specialists, which is why many muslims today find its content "miraculous". No wonder they wrote it exactly for this purpose.

What good is your judgement about my book, if you haven't read it entirely ? Especially the parts about the quran ? Be patient !

The judgement is that they already had such a great formula to create a book that cannot be forged later and this means we would have seen many of their other books carrying this formula including the hadith books which always seem to have immense scientific mistakes, contradictions and never seem to go a day without edits. Also Quran doesn't give your so called Arab team the right to go around conquering.

Mainly, my book is based on Edouard-Marie Gallez's thesis "Le Messie et son Proph?te / the Messiah and his Prophet".

And yep people have written their thesis justifying accuracy of cartoonish hadith books.

This is what I found out about you

I am a blogger, consultant and journalist.
I am not a researcher or academic, but popularizer
, relying on the work of real scientists, foremost among which Father Edward Gallez-Marie, with whom I worked for two years for writing the Great Secret of the Islam. The sources used in this book are cited and verifiable. I also offer free T?l?chargment on my site a presentation of the main sources and selected bibliography at the basis of the research outlined in Great Secret of Islam. The discerning reader is referred to the two volumes of the thesis of Father Edouard-Marie Gallez (The Messiah and his prophet, 2005-2010 by Editions de Paris) to find many other sources and testimonies that would have been too cumbersome to expose in the popular book that is the Great Secret of Islam. One can also visit Santa Gallez http//www.lemessieetsonprophete.com where it updates its work. The thesis proposed by Father Edouard-Marie Gallez and presented in The Great Secret of Islam has never been refuted frontally and rigorously since its publication in 2005. Instead, the publications of the researchers are continuing to succeed since, and converge in the direction of the discoveries of Father Edouard-Marie Gallez, the refining and supporting. I have quoted some in the annex of the Great Secret of Islam.

We heard this same story before which goes like "Hi, I am Abu Huraira who stayed with "Prophet" 2 years and hence I know more about his teachings and Islam than all his family members combined. I don't have any way to prove that whatever I am saying is true, but hey you must trust me what I say cuz I stayed with the Prophet 2 years."

And I am not the only person who has seen the mistake you are making. Here is your another reader

Hello Olaf.

As you say yourself, you are not academic, objective you show up as a popularizer qui subsequently assembled on the work of "great scientists" (the rest can wonder about what criteria you base this epithet "great&quot as the Father Edouard-Marie Gallez , Including His thesis "The Messiah and his
prophet." Now the work you-have the carried out leading to writing your book "The Great Secret of Islam 'n' remains a Work That is in the wake of the historical research. Need I Remind you , in this respect, That intellectual activity HAS rules That It can not depart, as Guarantors, rightly, has some intellectual rigor without qui the stamp "historical research" Becomes illegitimate?
And Among thesis rules face the problem of sources. In this regard, you are aware que la value of a historical research is first suspended in the quality of ict historiographical references, as well as the assurance of objective analysis and Their, consequently, Their covered operations.
In this regard, we deplore the number of assertions devoid of ANY reference sources in your writing. For example, to justify the indoctrination of Qor?chites by the Jewish Nazarenes, you write, Without Any source citation to supporting your way, in the page 27 <>. The footnote to the page what this transition Refers simply happy, for Lack of a reliable and objective historiographical reference, promising a return to the examination of the Koran to detect traces of this indoctrination. Counting on the Koran in to do this work Will save you the critical comprenant blame you for Taking the easy way of interpreting a text Whose objective and intelligible reading is, in Many Ways, Almost not possible (at least for ict Reviews some of passes); qui est far from Guaranteeing an objective look.
What a pity !This transition is the cornerstone of your thesis and, in the lack of ANY reference to the source or underlie, you cover of a lightweight "deleterious" as to whether to grant him Some credit. And what say -you aussi That reporting R?mi Brague, University Paris 1, In His account comparison entre les Ch Luxenberg and work of A. Pr?mare (. Http. //www.revue-texto net / Releases / CR / Brague_CR.html)
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Given thesis considerations, it must resolve to Conclude que la can link entre les Jewish Nazarenes and the birth of Islam Historically is not established, can not pass the intellectual limits of mere hypothesis and que la perspective of historical research, gratuitous assertion to make this crossing is a risky business.

Best regards.

The person above saw exactly what I saw in your writing because I am not only used to doing research and surrounded by researchers. One of my specializations is in marketing. Let me tell you some things

1. Saying I worked with him and her does not make your claims trustworthy.
2. The epicness of your response lies in the fact that you could not have any explanation for my comment on how you don't have knowledge about the geographic location you are linking to wars and conquest.
3. Thanks for saying you are a journalist and that gives us more reason to be suspicious of your work.
4. The period you are talking about has lots of historical uncertainties for which researchers do not claim anything they research on about it as ultimate truth. They use words like "maybe, perhaps, could be, probably, etc" in their writings to remain objective and honest. They do this even with the names of the battles.
5. You talk about "God's chosen people" without explaining what that means. I know its definition, but won't give it to you.
6. You didn't ever study extremism linked to religions (how it happens, where it happens, etc)
7. Your http//legrandsecretdelislam.com/media/ pretty much sums up your actual intention.
8. Your research work is mainly for those who have no idea about extremism found in other religions and tend to think all religions are violent because they just don't know about how to use agenda setting process for maximum gains.

peace

[reel]

Another thing, saying scientists of the sources are great and real is a very old marketing technique that doesn't work anymore. The main aim of this marketing technique is to mask the questionable parts of the content. I am sure Muslims in here already saw this in Islamic books many many times.
Example About Mr Bukhari
He obtained his educations after vigorous study. A year later, he had such a good retention of the text and chains of transmission of Ah?d?th, that sometimes teachers got their corrections from him. Im?m Bukh?r? had been acquiring religious education with competance and swiftness and at the tender age of sixteen, he had completely learnt by heart the books of Abdull?h ibn al-Mub?rak, al-Wak? and other learned companions of al-Im?m Ab? Han?fa radiyall?hu `anhum.

How hadith books are forced on people No matter how dubious the hadith looks accept it by looking at its "error free" isnad.

[Fusion]

Many thanks to reel for such detailed analysis.
I found the so far translations quite interesting but what bothers me is the intention. You dont go around making strong statements about islam , its rulers, its places and the quran(have you really read the quran and understood in full or you cherry pick verses to suport your claims, like that of bakah word, which by the way couls relate to a non physical place as well, as if you stumbled upon the final truth. You need to present your work and finding in a manner that people will appreciate your efforts because youdid not make judgements. One thing for sure, your writings made me feel embarassed that i did not know or tried to learn history of practical islam, which i shall do now. Cheers

[Jafar]

You dont go around making strong statements about islam , its rulers, its places and the quran

islam it's rulers, its places and its holy book.
islam has rulers, has places and has a holy book.
Hmmm.. you need to 'rethink' on what islam really is..
What's next? islam has enemies, islam has traitors, islam has allies, islam has troops, islam has weapons, islam has songs, islam has banks, islam has restaurants, islam has hotels and the list goes on and on..

But anyway, I support the author to uncover some of the "hidden" aspect and also making strong statement about the RELIGION of Islam.

http//i.imgur.com/8hFJgkz.png
Fully agree on the image above..

@Jafar, you make a good point. Indeed the shahada was enough to be a part of the caliphate, which is a revolutionary idea as you put it well. But keep in mind, a similar argument was used by the judeonazarenes to persuade and incorporate the Arabs into their project. A simple shahada would be enough to be part of the judeonazarene project that would return the Messiah to Jerusalem and lead their troops to victory, making them the selected/chosen elite authorized by God. This argument was so persuasive it completely surprised the Byzantine Empire. The isolated groups of judeo-nazarene communities were 'suddenly' (in reality this took quite some time) accompanied and supported by a large force of Arabs.

The Judeo Nazarenes was the weakest group among other Judeo group at the times.
The Judeo Nazarenes was declared as INFIDEL and HERETICS both by Judaist and also Nicean Christians (Byzantium Roman Christianity)

With the situation where Christianity received strong political backing from the "1st world country" (Byzantium) and Judaism received strong political backing from "2nd world country" (Sassanid) it's natural for them to seek refuge, protection and allies among "3rd world countries", which in turn shall overthrow both the 1st and also the 2nd world country. (History repeat itself many times, up until today).

Although I would avoid labeled the "3rd world countries" as Arabs, as the meaning of such word greatly differs between then and now. And none of them labeled themselves as "Arabs" during that time.

The hyphotesis of "Judeo-Nazarene" origin is not far fetched, as doctrines found in the Quran is in majority aligned with Judeo-Nazarenes doctrines.
They were the most desperate group among other Judeo group..

Thus a simple 'requirement' to join the movement/sect/religion/group is necessary as they don't have the luxury of being picky..
No need to prove that you have a lineage from "the chosen people", no need for complicated bathing ritual (Baptism), just say these words and you're among us... God's most chosen people.... Now.. go to war and fight for the glory your God...
The move was brilliant I might say..

The next part of the translation will shed some more light on how Islam establishes itself with Abd-Al Malik, which will also show the caliphate did use some of the features of the Byzantine Empire (centralized administration, language, religious text etc).

Definitely, there are strong influence of Byzantine's within the religion of Islam.

• Holy book
• Holy ritual
• Holy places
  (among them, Hagia Sophia Basilica, constructed in 537 AD, and the "right of asylum" for those who seek protection inside the building, also being mentioned briefly in the book of Quran of "whoever enters it shall be safe.", 396)
• Holy Saints
• Conversion mechanism
• Prohibition of Christian to enslave another Christian.
  (While it's allowable for Christian to enslave Jews or Pagan for example, and Judeo-Nazarenes fell inside the category of Pagans)
• Prohibition of anyone to have a Christian slave (all slaves which converted to Christianity have to be freed)
• Taxation system
• Military service (only for Christians, while Jews and Pagans were exempted)

etc..

[Fusion]

Hey Jaffer,

You took my statement out of the whole context. By no means am supporting what has had happened to this religion over the centuries by opportunists. I am simply questioning the motive of this thread and the tone in which the translation or the actual book is written.
I have worked with French and I know the racism in them against Islam in general, not that the author is one of em but the way it is going on, I feel there is a plot to all this ; book.

Cheers

islam it's rulers, its places and its holy book.
islam has rulers, has places and has a holy book.
Hmmm.. you need to 'rethink' on what islam really is..
What's next? islam has enemies, islam has traitors, islam has allies, islam has troops, islam has weapons, islam has songs, islam has banks, islam has restaurants, islam has hotels and the list goes on and on..

But anyway, I support the author to uncover some of the "hidden" aspect and also making strong statement about the RELIGION of Islam.

http//i.imgur.com/8hFJgkz.png
Fully agree on the image above..

The Judeo Nazarenes was the weakest group among other Judeo group at the times.
The Judeo Nazarenes was declared as INFIDEL and HERETICS both by Judaist and also Nicean Christians (Byzantium Roman Christianity)

With the situation where Christianity received strong political backing from the "1st world country" (Byzantium) and Judaism received strong political backing from "2nd world country" (Sassanid) it's natural for them to seek refuge, protection and allies among "3rd world countries", which in turn shall overthrow both the 1st and also the 2nd world country. (History repeat itself many times, up until today).

Although I would avoid labeled the "3rd world countries" as Arabs, as the meaning of such word greatly differs between then and now. And none of them labeled themselves as "Arabs" during that time.

The hyphotesis of "Judeo-Nazarene" origin is not far fetched, as doctrines found in the Quran is in majority aligned with Judeo-Nazarenes doctrines.
They were the most desperate group among other Judeo group..

Thus a simple 'requirement' to join the movement/sect/religion/group is necessary as they don't have the luxury of being picky..
No need to prove that you have a lineage from "the chosen people", no need for complicated bathing ritual (Baptism), just say these words and you're among us... God's most chosen people.... Now.. go to war and fight for the glory your God...
The move was brilliant I might say..

Definitely, there are strong influence of Byzantine's within the religion of Islam.

• Holy book
• Holy ritual
• Holy places
  (among them, Hagia Sophia Basilica, constructed in 537 AD, and the "right of asylum" for those who seek protection inside the building, also being mentioned briefly in the book of Quran of "whoever enters it shall be safe.", 396)
• Holy Saints
• Conversion mechanism
• Prohibition of Christian to enslave another Christian.
  (While it's allowable for Christian to enslave Jews or Pagan for example, and Judeo-Nazarenes fell inside the category of Pagans)
• Prohibition of anyone to have a Christian slave (all slaves which converted to Christianity have to be freed)
• Taxation system
• Military service (only for Christians, while Jews and Pagans were exempted)

etc..

[reel]

Many thanks to reel for such detailed analysis.
I found the so far translations quite interesting but what bothers me is the intention. You dont go around making strong statements about islam , its rulers, its places and the quran(have you really read the quran and understood in full or you cherry pick verses to suport your claims, like that of bakah word, which by the way couls relate to a non physical place as well, as if you stumbled upon the final truth. You need to present your work and finding in a manner that people will appreciate your efforts because youdid not make judgements. One thing for sure, your writings made me feel embarassed that i did not know or tried to learn history of practical islam, which i shall do now. Cheers

Thanks Fusion, the first chapters were going good but as soon as the claims about Quran came it all fell apart. It made me wonder how much of what I read earlier was exactly real.

I am sorry about the grammatical mistakes and bad flow of my lines. I was little mad after I realized that I wasted time reading it.

[Jafar]

Hey Jaffer,

You took my statement out of the whole context. By no means am supporting what has had happened to this religion over the centuries by opportunists. I am simply questioning the motive of this thread and the tone in which the translation or the actual book is written.
I have worked with French and I know the racism in them against Islam in general, not that the author is one of em but the way it is going on, I feel there is a plot to all this ; book.

Then please focus on the his-story.. refute any illogicality that you see on his-story.. focus on the subject and not on the author..

[Fusion]

Then please focus on the his-story.. refute any illogicality that you see on his-story.. focus on the subject and not on the author..

OK

[runninglikezebras]

Thus a simple 'requirement' to join the movement/sect/religion/group is necessary as they don't have the luxury of being picky..
No need to prove that you have a lineage from "the chosen people", no need for complicated bathing ritual (Baptism), just say these words and you're among us... God's most chosen people.... Now.. go to war and fight for the glory your God...
The move was brilliant I might say..

This tactic is still very relevant and used today within so-called extremist groups. Many of those joining ISIS for example are total newcomers to the religion, first generation converts or muslims with no understanding of Arab whatsoever originating from non-Arab countries. The only requirement is submission to the will of God that is, the will of Caliph Al-Baghdadi. If fitna occurs in the territories they control they discipline them by force back into submission.

The religious aspect is reinforcing the political and vice versa. This mechanism is fueled by the victories on the battlefield and the spoils of war (including rules for slavery which was btw also fixed by law for the judeonazarenes). Of course ISIS has long forgotten about the Judeo-Nazarene project and they are not fighting over Jerusalem, their political religious goal is to conquer Mecca.

Western media acts surprised now, how they managed to gain such momentum in such a short timespan. To me, it's history repeating itself and a political-religious method that is as old as the Judeo-Nazarenes/Proto-Islam.

I will post more parts of the translation tonight.

[Olaf]

@ Reel

Lots of your assertions need answer. Sadly, I do not master english enough to be proficient and clear about my positions and what I try to demonstrate in my book. Runninglikezebras is way more better than I in this ...

Also Quran doesn't give your so called Arab team the right to go around conquering.

I don't agree with you. See for instance sura 19,40 "We Only, We inherit the earth and all who are thereon, and unto Us they are returned." you will see in the third part of my book a short quranic study explaining this verse.

We heard this same story before which goes like "Hi, I am Abu Huraira who stayed with "Prophet" 2 years and hence I know more about his teachings and Islam than all his family members combined. I don't have any way to prove that whatever I am saying is true, but hey you must trust me what I say cuz I stayed with the Prophet 2 years."

This is not my position. Maybe I was not clear enough in my explanations

1. Gallez is by no mean a "prophet", just a scholar who based his work on facts and real historical material (ie contemporary sources of the events he tries to explain). Some of this material is rather new and revolutionnary (letters & documents that has been discovered lately, new methods and analysis, that haven't been taken into account by previous scholars. See Robert Hoyland's book, Seeing islam as others saw it - some of his work can be found here http//christianorigins.com/islamrefs.html# and here http//www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions/earlysaw.html and also in Alfred-Louis de Pr?mare's Les Fondations de l'islam / Islam's Foundations)

2. My book does not pretend to be something else than the vulgarization of his work. He asked me to do it because he doesn't have my "vulgarization" abilities, and because he is now too old and tired to cope with such a hard work. So, consider my book as his, he vouches for it.

3. Gallez has every way to prove what he asserted in his thesis and what's in my book, and so do I. Should you have been an honest critic, you would have then quoted my response to my "another reader" (namely "Averoes&quot, as you mentionned his comment on my website. I will try to translate my answer here, about the lack of reference in my writings about the links between islam and judeonazareneism. Here are some of them

• The term "Nasara" in the Qur'an, the meaning of his employment.

• The Nazarene figures in Islam as having instructed Muhammad (Waraqa, to a lesser extent Bahira). Islamic history cannot account for this.

• The concordance of Jewish eschatology (at least some scenarios) with Muslim eschatology and beyond, the strange similarity between numerous Muslim traditions with some Jewish traditions, such as the descent of the quran ("Isra and miraj" vs. Moses going to heaven to get the Torah from God) and others elements (texts, laws ...) ; the concordance of Nazarene worldview and that of Islam.

• The Syrian origins of the Qur'an and Islam the judeonazarene toponymy (place names, hills, temples, which are found in the quran, as Abil Bet Ma'ka Abu Kaaba, Abu Qobels ... ), the quraysh places names that are not found anywhere else (caravanserai of Quraysh, Quraysh River), archeology, with excavations that have shown that judeonazarenes lived in Syria and they lived together in same places with Arabs from the late 6th century, philology which showed that the language used in the quran is not south Arabic but north Arabic (see the work of Robert Kerr http//www.tingismagazine.com/article/the_language_of_the_koran.html) and the quran itself, which describes the pseudo-Meccans as inhabiting the Mediterranean regions (farmers, cattle breeders, fishermen) and describes their habitat (vegetation) as Mediterranean, as proved by Patricia Crone.

• The coincidence of the history of the Arab conquest of Jerusalem (including rediscovery by Alfred-Louis de Pr?mare) with the judeonazarene project to rebuild the temple, the sourced evidence of the presence of Jews with Arabs, the weirdness of the islamic testimonies of the reconstruction of the temple under Omar (built by and for Jews, whereas they are supposed to be hatred since the slaughter of Banu Qurayza in Medina)

• Chronicle of Pseudo Sebeos which I quote in The Great Secret of Islam

• New computer study of the quran (publication in 2014 of the thesis of Jean-Jacques Walter), which is a proof in itself (whereas the historical hypotheses are no more than probable hypotheses at most).

Etc, etc. To really dig the issue I recommend reading the thesis of Father Edouard-Marie Gallez, I have made no secret that it was essential for detailed understanding of what I describe in The Great Secret of Islam.

and also ...

1. Saying I worked with him and her does not make your claims trustworthy.

This is not "my" claim but his. But I know enough of his claim to defend it myself

2. The epicness of your response lies in the fact that you could not have any explanation for my comment on how you don't have knowledge about the geographic location you are linking to wars and conquest.

Knowledge about it comes from Dussaud's work, archaelogical excavations, Patricia Crone's work, interpretation of the quran and islamic traditions in the light of this new data, new and old sources that place the Ishmaelites in northern Iraq and Syria that are all cited in my book

3. Thanks for saying you are a journalist and that gives us more reason to be suspicious of your work.

How about being suspicious of Edouard-Marie Gallez's work ? He's no journalist but an independant scholar, not linked to any institution funded with saudi oil money or hindered by political correctness...

4. The period you are talking about has lots of historical uncertainties for which researchers do not claim anything they research on about it as ultimate truth. They use words like "maybe, perhaps, could be, probably, etc" in their writings to remain objective and honest. They do this even with the names of the battles.

Some historical uncertainties have been cleared out by Gallez's work. Lots remain also, but the point of Gallez's work (and also my book) is not to explain everything but to assert a general scheme, a sort of frame in which the events took place. This frame is 1) the transmission to some Arabs of a jewish-christian hope that the Messiah would come back as a political figure and that he would give the world to his true followers, ie Arabs and Judeonazarene 2) the appropriation of this hope by those Arabs, excluding the Judeonazarene, their former religion masters, from it. I believe Gallez has a very strong case to support this frame.

5. You talk about "God's chosen people" without explaining what that means. I know its definition, but won't give it to you.

Already explained it in the book, many times, from the jewish perspective, the judeonazarene one, the Arab one, the muslim one ...

6. You didn't ever study extremism linked to religions (how it happens, where it happens, etc)

I did more than study it I explained it with the idea of salvation and how it had been used (and still is used) as a political ultima ratio

7. Your http//legrandsecretdelislam.com/media/ pretty much sums up your actual intention.

You seem to know my intentions better than me !! How prescient of you ... Actually, I have no other intention than to bear witness unto the truth, or at least unto what little we can know of it based on facts (and not on an history that has been written centuries after the events it is supposed to describe). It's like I am just telling people that Santa Claus does not exist. Kids (and grown ups) might feel pain learning this, but still, even the hugeness of this pain does not prevent Santa Claus from not existing.

8. Your research work is mainly for those who have no idea about extremism found in other religions and tend to think all religions are violent because they just don't know about how to use agenda setting process for maximum gains.

"Extremism" does not mean anything at all. A french comedian told once a joke about real "extremist" christians, that they should be giving hugs and kisses to everyone according to their texts (he might not have known some american extremist "christians" ...). I tried to explain the real roots of violence in religion and in political-philisophical systems it is the idea that we can achieve a world freed from evil, from pain, from bad guys, that we can build a "better" world, that we can change the very nature of the world and of men, that there is a salvation that is achievable through politics and human force. I showed that it comes from the news ideas introduced by Jesus and christians, who had at that time no political agenda at all, but triggered all sorts of "extremisms" among others.

Hope my english is clear enough. Maybe I should quit debating since I feel I cannot express my ideas as well as I want to ... Maybe I should let Runninglikezebras do the talking. You tell me !

Peace.

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I refrained from responding to Reel since her post was entirely ad homimem.

I'm willing to debate these issues and defend them myself. But as I'm still facing the task of completing the translation of this book, the translation process has my priority for now. Once finished I will gladly debate every detail of it. This translation process will also allow me to familiarize myself better with the fine details of its content and debate them with more expertise. I haven't spent two years working with E.M. Gallez. Though I wish I had!

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FROM THE INVENTION OF ISLAM TO ITS CRYSTALLIZATION

We will now see how the Islamic religion will be formed from the legacy of Abd al-Malik. Within three to four centuries that followed, Islam will develop the system of dogmas and sacred history that we know today. The relentless internal coherence of their construction will provide a logic of self-justification that we have already seen at work. Here is how.

The invention of the Night Journey

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Image the night journey on a Persian miniature of the 16th century

Abd Al-Malik died in 705. With him disappears in fact the rule of Jerusalem as the place of the three religions subject to the imperium of the great Caliph. The holy city is removed for the benefit of Mecca to which the successors of Abd al-Malik associate a cult of Muhammad. This signals the proliferation of the Meccan qibla (directed toward Mecca) from the 8th century. Thus Mecca becomes the great holy city of the new religion in formation. But then how to explain and retrieve the status of sacredness kept by Jerusalem anyway? How to explain the presence and direction of the Dome of the Rock? How to explain all these Arab efforts extended towards the conquest of Jerusalem? Should we give up Al-Quds, the holy city to Jews and Christians? The sacredness of Jerusalem will then be justified by a major design for the new religion it takes a leading role in the consistency of the Muslim faith and the sanctification of the Koran itself. It's probably in the 9th century that will see the invention of the Night Journey ("al-isra wa'l-miraj" or "the night journey and ascension&quot, whose preamble is explained the role in Islam (see previous chapter). In an uncanny imitation of the ancient Jewish tradition of the journey of the patriarch Moses to heaven , teachers of religion (the caliph and his advisers) have created this story supposedly being an interpretation and explanation of one verse, one who opens Surah 17 (which gives it its title, "The Night Journey" to which otherwise no references are being made in its 110 following verses) . Not only does the story give direction to the Kaaba being the famous holy mosque mentioned in Surah 118 (and thus forces the Quran to mention a mecca it otherwise ignores), but it also allows the Qur'an to testify
about Mohammed's passage to Jerusalem , thereby justifying its status as holy city and devotion made to the famous rock in the center of the dome of the same name. This rock would then, according to the legend of the night journey, Muhammad's point of ascension towards heaven.

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Image Rock of the dome of the rock, on top of mount Moriah, place of the supposed ascension of Muhammad towards heaven

We are again seeing this eternal logic of backwards construction, starting from a predetermined conclusion by imposing causes and reasoning to properly justify the cult of the rock, the interest of Islam to the city of Jerusalem (and in a way the sacredness of the Koran), a plausible story that explains how this worship is invented. And it indeed explains the internal logic of religious discourse being thereby enhanced. But the development proposed by the legend around this single verse goes much further by raising Muhammad to heaven to receive the revelation, it justified his divine character of his prophetic mission. By observing a "heavenly Koran", a "mother of writings" , it justifies the sacred and absolute nature of the earthly Koran the the counselors of the caliph were rewriting. And if Muhammad should forget the revelation he has received in heaven, thenthe many references to a "Koran" present within the Muslim Koran are justified. For without it, this information might prove strongly embarrassing; how could a book which was being patiently received verse after verse by Muhammad from the mouth of the angel Gabriel, and being written as dictated by Muhammad how could it refer to itself as a whole that is already finished, already written? We saw earlier already that Quran actually referred to the judeonazarene lectionary. But in the surreality that is the Muslim legend, this can not be possible. They had to find another explanation, however unlikely it may be a celestial Koran, unchanging and inviolable, even a winged horse moving at lightning speed (2400 kilometers in one night for the return trip Mecca-Jerusalem), interviews with the prophets of old times or visiting heaven and hell ...

The invention of this legend probably stems from a subtle and progressive theological construction. But the obvious additions of references to the Sacred Mosque and the Mosque achieved so far in the Qur'anic text shall, meanwhile, certainly not be of great subtlety still in this reverse logic of justification, it mentions arbitrarily a "Distant Mosque" ("Masjid al Aqsa&quot referring to the mosque built near the Dome of the Rock on the old esplanade of the temple of Jerusalem, towards 710-715. Mohammed, who died in 632, obviously could never contemplate in his lifetime this building , let alone leave the footprints of the hooves of his winged horse in the Dome of the Rock, which was then covered with the remains of past centuries.

Here we come to one of the new paradigms faced by this religion Abd Al-Malik was instrumental in securing the Arabic language by establishing it as an official language. With the spread of the Koran that he ordered on a fairly large scale, it has become increasingly difficult to devote himself to corrections or additions (Islamic traditions, however, state that the destruction of Koranic heterodox books was ongoing in the 8th century by Hajjaj in particular), as had been the case previously (we remember such interpolations of "Nasara" - see note 84). Now trying to justify the Islamic discourse, direct additions to the Qur'an will be more and more rare it will be build around it.

A tradition outside the text will therefore grow. It will seek to interpret it according to what it wants it to say. This is the epitome of the of the story night journey. Without changing the text (at least its "ductus" or "rasm" in Arabic), change of its meaning will be introduced by adapting its diacritics, its vowels , or more simply by shifting the meaning of words. Including place names which can be easily re-interpreted. The Kaaba site is assigned to the name of Mecca (name from Syria and the Bible) and the "Sacred Mosque" (the "masjid al haram " originally designating the proto-Qur'anic ruins of the Temple of Jerusalem ) becomes the name of the location of the Meccan Kaaba. The Koranic text is probably not unrelated to the choice of site and the name of Makka as the new center of pilgrimage. In verse 24 of Sura 48 , there is talk of a "makka" (valley). If enough torture to the meaning of this verse and those between which it is inserted is applied, then "makka" could very well match the geography surrounding the Kaaba in Mecca, actually built in a basin. This is also the only occurrence of the term "makka" throughout the Koran. In support of this assertion, it will still shift the meaning of words arbitrarily baptizing surrounding places of Mecca with names already present in the Quran, as the hill Al Qubays (see note 81). Thus everything becomes clear, justified and consistent in Islam just rewrite history and geography again in the desired direction.

Making History

Throughout the centuries that follow Abd Al-Malik, we can see a growing industry of hadith, in the service of the construction of this tradition which is external to the text, a parallel discourse of Qur'an. The prominent role attributed to Muhammad, his character as a standard of Islam will boost the memory of him, up to embellishing or even recreating the historical character and events of the proto-Islam. A base of truth is sometimes to be found, such as in the hadith of Bukhari stating that "when Waraqa died, the revelation has dried up." Or that of Muslim stating that "the priest Waraqa wrote the Hebrew book . He wrote the Gospel in Hebrew what God wanted him to write ".

But the requirements to justify a Koranic text which subsequently became difficult to understand because of its manipulations and the will of political power to be justified by the religious will cause the the number of hadiths to explode. Thus they reached a delusional number of hadiths, estimated at over a million and a half, or 137 hadiths for each day lived by Muhammad, considering that his "active life" lasted 30 years (this is a bit exaggerated, some hadiths do not deal with Muhammad but with contextual elements, history of the first companions after the death of Muhammad, and many redundant hadiths). In order to legitimize this discourse, Islam (Sunni) classifies these one and a half million hadith according to their degree of reliability based on the supposed strength of their oral transmission chains ("the isnad &quot. But the latter next to being purely declarative, they also prove unreliable. The authors of hadiths considered most seriously, Bukhari and Muslim, have written about 17,000 between them (approximately 7000 different hadiths if one eliminates duplicates, which amounts to a hadith by Muhammad a day). To it should be added the collections of Al Nasai (Sunan al-Sughra), Abu Dawood; Al Tirmidhi Ibn Majah, also regarded as very reliable sources (but slightly less than the first two) . All these authors have written between the late 9th century and the beginning of the 10th, but many others are compilations that appeared before and especially after this period..

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A glimpse of the enormity of the sum of hadiths

The production of this discourse, framed (and paid) by the political and religious authority of the caliphs of Baghdad, will lead to the writing of the Sira, the official biography of Muhammad, including his genealogy and all the events of his life. It gives the keys to reading the Koran for Muslims in terms of the fantasy life of the prophet. The Sira was produced by specialist scribes, by the orders of the policy. History has retained the work of Ibn Icham the 9th century, who would have used the oldest work of Ibn Ishaq (work that has reached us only through Ibn Icham - were they implementing censorship?). As for what these hadith were based on, these chronicles also contain some pieces of truth. Ibn Hisham writes about Waraqa " he was a Nazarene (...) He became Nazarene and followed the books and learned men of science (...) He was an excellent connoisseur of nazareism. He attended the books of the Nazarenes and knew them as people of the Book "(cited in note 59). Also worth mentioning is the work of Tabari, "court historian" bribed columnist of the caliphs and renegade Christian. Great connoisseur of the hadiths, he proposed among others with The History of Prophets and Kings an idealized version of the events of early Islam conforming with the Muslim discourse wanted by the authorities to better justify themselves. It still remains a major source for the official Muslim history. More specifically, he wrote one of the first tafsir, this is to say "exegesis", or rather an explanation of the Qur'an in the light of the discourse that he himself participated in inventing. This tafsir still is referred to today. As we can see, it seems difficult to attribute a serious credit to this work of Sira as historical chronicles. Written in a Persian milieu (under the Abbasids, as we shall see), easily more than two hundred years after the events they describe, ignorant of the first judeonazarene influences (including the original Syro-Aramaic cultural context ) they are supposed to explain a hardly understandable Quran, but depend themselves on this Qur'an. It is the epitome of a snake biting its tail!

Another determining factor in the formation of Islam was the fall of the Umayyad dynasty in 750. Their armies commanded by Caliph Marwan II were defeated by those of As-Saffah (nickname meaning "bloody&quot. We should not believe in the fact that the trends of religion under Abd al-Malik had put an end to clashes within the umma. The contestation of Umayyad power has always remained vivid, consubstantial with the imbroglio of politics, religion and its manipulations, as we have explained. Until his fall, the Umayyad power was conducting regular campaigns to subdue the rebels and impose its authority in all areas. Alternative versions of the Qur'an continued to be systematically hunted down and destroyed, the bad believers were being persecuted. The appearance in about 720 of the term "Islam" (submission) to denote a religion, and the term "Muslim" (submitted) to refer to the believer, is very revealing about the hardness of the authority of the caliph and the deeper sense of Islam yes, certainly, it is sent to establish the law of God on earth to eradicate the evil, but above all through an invented religion to justify political domination, religion tailored by a Lieutenant of God on earth to its needs. By submission to the religion one is conditioned to submission to the caliph, and vice versa.

Opposition to the Caliphs authority have therefore naturally developed. They are seen particularly strong among former supporters of Ali, historically opponents of the Umayyad caliphs, among their descendants and among those who have joined them, especially in Persia, and also among the branches of Umayyad enemies within the Qorechites. It is also within these Qorechites where the Abbasid branch emerges. Its leader, As-Saffah leads the rebellion against the Umayyads and prevails in 750. He creates a new capital for the Caliphate (Baghdad) and established his dynasty, which lasted until the 13th century. He introduced Islam in a new perspective by bringing Arabs and non-Arab converts on an equal footing - he was in fact supported by a strong non-Arab party, including Persians. So it gives Islam the universal dimension it lacked, Islam being after all before this a religion of the domination of the Arabs in the world.

The Torah raises Moses atop Mount Sinai (the sky) to meet God and receive the tablets of the law; explicit texts are read during some Jewish holidays also detailing a journey to heaven, who made him see the "Heavenly Torah" God and Moses told them, "I allowed him to go inside to give him the prisoner of heights , ... to teach my children all that is written in it. "
s17,1 "Glory be to him who carried his servant from the holy mosque to the furthest mosque whose surroundings we have blessed around , so that We might show him some of Our signs for, verily, He alone is all-hearing, all-seeing"
Holy Mosque, or literally "masjid al haram" place of prostration, forbidden (this is the first sense), dedicated to the forbidden, that is to say, the sacred. Dedicated to be forbidden since being destroyed; it is actually the ruins of the Temple of Jerusalem, the object of devotion of the judeonazarenes.
Mohammed had however "visited" Jerusalem during the Persian expedition of 614, but this memory did not have right to be cited once the removal of judeonazarenes was completed. What would he have supposed to be doing there according to the history as it was rewritten?
We will see a little further, what this enigmatic expression of "mother of writings" or "Mother Writing" means.
Muslim tradition states that the Quran was revealed to Mohammed and preached by him, and written under his dictation by his fellow scribes , from the year 610 until the year 632.
Initially, the Dome of the Rock will also not mention this night journey no inscriptions dating back to Abd al Malik are referring to it, even though, in Islam today, this monument was supposedly built to honor the rock of ascenscion by Muhammad to heaven. This is another indication of the late invention of this episode of the night journey.
The initial sheets that formed the Koran did not include vowels. As the liturgical Syriac or Hebrew, they were written only with consonants. Moreover, many consonants are written with the same letters, one can not differentiate without adding diacritical marks (accent of sorts) that tell the reader what the letter should read like (up to five different consonants for the same letter ). The work of vocalization and precision of diacritics will be finalized in the 10th century.
See note 118
"And He it is who, in the valley of Mecca, saved you, and your hands from them, after He had enabled you to vanquish them; and God saw indeed what you were doing"(s48,24); We will explain this verse later.
If the Koran can already present commands of hatred and violence, we find among many hadiths (including hadiths which are considered most seriously) sometimes worse commandments and absolutely unequivocal. Describing the normative behavior of Mohammed or his instructions themselves, they formed the substrate of sharia, the Islamic law. And when some Muslims claim that these violent commandments are not found in the Koran, they fail to say that they are hadith which ordered them. This is the case for example of the obligation of stoning of the adulterous woman. We can get an idea on this site that lists more than 18,000 hadiths
We will explain a bit further the meaning of this recurring phrase from the Koran, "people of the Book" (page 69).
Christoph Luxenberg has shown (in Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran) that the meaning of certain words of the Koran can not be understood without reference to the Syro-Aramaic cultural context
Of course it was not the whole Arab people, many Arabs were Jews (converted, or ethnic mix) or professed the Christian faith, particularly within the Chaldean and Assyrian churches through the centuries. It will also take until the 10-11th century for the Islamic sphere of influence (Islam) to switch towards a majority of Islam (some historians place this shift a little later, from the 13th and 14th centuries and the major massacres of Eastern Christianity, Indian and Central Asia perpetrated by the Mongols and Tamerlane)

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Crystallization of Islam

When closing this chronicle of the origins of Islam and its first formation, we will not forget to mention the process that led to its crystallization. It took place in the late 10th century, once all the phenomena we have earlier described in detail had finished to establish the general discourse of what Islam says about itself (the same that we discussed in the preamble). It is based on the Koran (which, as we have seen, ultimately said very little about itself as Islam if we consider it without the "authorized comments&quot, the Sira, oral traditions (hadiths, at least those considered most reliable) and a proper Muslim "historic" narrative in the context of the appearance of Islam situating Mecca, pre-Islamic history and explanation of polytheism, ignorance (jahiliya), genealogy of Muhammad, his life events, history of the early caliphs revised and updated to meet the legend ... And parallel to it Sharia, the Islamic law, which already was at that time very much like it is today . This crystallization takes place after a series of Baghdad caliphs called "liberals" as Harun al-Rashid or Al-Mamoun, who promoted the development of arts, techniques and thinking (celebrated today as the golden age of Islam). Some critical reflection on Islam was even able to flourish with the moutazilite movement, rationalist school of thought regarding the Quran as a "created" book. The reaction manifested itself in the acharite movement, of opposing nature, which eventually got the support of the Caliphates power (most notably Caliph Muttawakkil) Muttawakkil persecuted the moutazilites. This dogmatist movement became then the current of structuring of thought of Islam. Three major decisions are taken at the turn of the 11th century in these conditions by theologians and authorities of acharite obedience, still in force today

• The affirmation of the dogma of the uncreated Qur'an which would have been the celestial Koran that Mohammed would have received during the night journey.

• The doctrine of abrogation and the abrogated ("nasikh" and "mansukh&quot to end the inconsistencies of the Qur'an the later a Sura was revealed, the more imperative is its command; especially if two suras prove contradictory, consider the later sura as superior. This helps to sort out the injunctions under the so-called Medinan suras (mostly war injunctions) and injunctions of peace and tolerance within the so-called Meccan suras (supposedly to have come from the pseudo-period of Meccan life of Muhammad ). In case of conflict of interpretation, the suras called Medinan, assumed to have been revealed after the Meccan suras, outweigh the latter. This doctrine of abrogating and abrogated was already outlined in the Qur'an (s2,106 and s16,101). We can now understand a little better why such zeal was used to rearrange the order of suras, to justify the timing of their revelation, and why, curiously enough, the suras that must prevail are almost always those who advocate arbitrariness, violence and submission in the best interest of caliphs .

• The "closing of the doors of ijtihad", that is to say, stopping the effort of reflection on religion and interpretation work, the latter having then been deemed sufficiently supplied and otherwise dangerous for the cohesion of the empire because of differences of development within four jurisprudential schools of Islam; it establishes the prohibition of any criticism of religion, still in force in Muslim countries.

With the absolute sacredness of the character of Muhammad as described in the Islamic narrative, that of the early days of Islam, as well as the rachidun caliphs, these three decisions have crystallized the Muslim religion. It has since changed very little in its doctrine and its discourse , any attempt to modernize it being very quickly thwarted. The practice however could change with the changes of the times, as Muslims were under the authority of the caliph or outnumbered in a foreign jurisdiction, as this area was hostile it welcomed them in a liberal framework . In reality, the only flexibility that the fossilization of Islam only allows the pious believer to choose from a palette ranging from "modern" Islam of the 10th century to Islam of its pseudo-legalistic origins of the 7th century (source of Salafism), according to the four major schools of Sunni jurisprudence . This orders every generation to perpetually repeat what Islam thinks it was, to repeat the fantasy constructed by centuries of manipulation.

Sunnism and Shiism

Furthermore, without going into its complex maze, we must also say a word on Shiism , a divergent main branch of Islam (Islam is predominantly Sunni, 85% today). If it actually comes from the descendants of Ali supporters established in Persia, opponents of the Umayyads, we must remember that it contains the exact same core as Sunnism The Koran itself, although Shiites still feel that in the 16th century the Qur'an Sunni was falsified, almost the same Sira, and a discourse and sharia which are similar in their principles. From this common core, we can see that the Sunnis linked to the military caste, had historically focused on earthly conquest, predation and political dominance while Shiism, was more held by mysticism lent to Ali and his eschatological as referred to, was more concerned of faith. This divergence is clearly evident in the organization of the religion, Shia has a real centralized clergy who oversees political affairs. This is the translation of the historicopposition of supporters of Ali to the caliphs power. It will result in Shiism with the construction of a religious justification and a pseudohistorical discourse which is significantly different, according to the same logic of backward construction.

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Image Mosque of Ali, housing his tomb (Najaf, Iraq, third most sacred place in islam in the world for pilgrimage)

The terrible struggle that opposes Shi'ism and Sunnism and which still opposes them today, proceeds from the internal motor common to the whole messianic ideology and its logic of surreality. It follows from this vision of the world as the site of the battle that must lead the pure against the impure in their project to eradicate evil by this measure, nothing is more miserable than a hypocrite, someone who is "falsely" pure, nothing more hateful than adulteration of the project. Fighting the impurity of his neighbor, is to assert its own purity . And as one always will eventually find on his way someone expressing to be more pure, it comes back to what we have previously established (see page 56) by nature, Islam is at war against itself.

An additional difference between Shiism and Sunnism which is most interesting results from differences emerging over the centuries because of their parallel environments of conservations, in the Persia on one hand and the Caliphate on the other hand concerning some traditions of the first judeonazarene religion. Sunnism and Shiism do not have exactly the same collections of hadiths, although religious rites ultimately differ very little. The Shiites follow in fact the hadiths related to Muhammad but also their twelve Imams (Twelver ). These are the successors of the Prophet imams, beginning with the Caliph Ali and his son Hasan and Hussein, which is made to almost worship. Other imams succeeded them, until the twelfth, Muhammad al-Hasan al Askari, called Muhammad al Mahdi, whom Allah would have "hidden" in the 9th century until the end of time. The two major branches of Islam deploy different visions of the scenario of end of time. Yet they show a common waiting both advocate the rule of law of Allah on earth, waiting for the last judgment and the coming of world savior, the Mahdi (the "rightly guided&quot, they will support him in his fight against the evil forces coalesced around the Antichrist which will become elected in his kingdom. Mahdi who will be supported by the return of Jesus, which Allah removed before the crucifixion, hidden in heaven where he is held in reserve for this. But while Shiites believe the Mahdi is their last imam, "hidden Imam", the Sunnis believe that the Mahdi will be the last successor of Muhammad, one that will unite the ummah. The Mahdi could even be Jesus himself, since according to some hadiths narrated by Anas ibn Malik in the collections of Bukhari and Muslim, "Mahdi" is a title worn by Jesus.

We are now almost coming to the end of this chronicle of the origins of Islam. Its great secret appears in full light a different story, complex, very different from that what Islam wants to believe. We showed its judeonazarene origins, very close to the Jewish Christianity but nevertheless a radical break with it. We understood its messianic hope, the key event of the capture of Jerusalem which precipitated the failure of judeonazarism, the various manipulations that succeeded to retract them for the benefit of the Arabs, and the painful work of recovery and self-justification of conquerors posing as the new masters of the world and the centuries.

But before risking to make a conclusion on such a reading, we suggest to further detail some of the mechanisms that have allowed such manipulation. With them, we can consider some key readings of the Koran that will allow to detect the persistent traces of the truth about the origins of Islam.

The constitution of Sharia has also led to its share of Quranic changes.
Even when abrogated by the Medinan suras the Meccan suras are not much good contextual interpretation of the Meccan suras and Medinan applies. When Muslims are in a minority, as was the case in their view in Mecca for Muhammad, they must adopt the conduct of tolerance advocated by the Meccan suras. When they find themselves in a position of strength, in the image of the life of Mohammed in Medina, in case of numerical superiority, in the aspect of stronger of force or in the case of Muslim countries, they must apply the Medinan suras.
As has been stated by various thinkers and theologians of the second millennium.
We will return in conclusion about the distinction between Islamic doctrine and practice of Muslims. See also footnote 131 above.
We speak here of the Twelver Shi'ism, main branch of Shiism (90% of Shiites).
We see the example in the progressive development in the history of Shias animosity towards all first caliphs (which Sunnis honor as rachidun); they came gradually to view them as traitors to the religion.
We find this logic in all messianism the worst enemy of communist fighter for the advent of the dictatorship of the proletariat is the figure of the social traitor, the worst enemy is the Stalinist Trotskyite, the worst enemy of jihad is the bad jihadist.
Alongside the Twelver Shia (90% of Shia), we find the Ismaili Shiites, who stopped the succession of imams at the seventh, and Zaydi Shiites, who in turn stopped with the fifth. Other families of minority are also linked directly or indirectly to the Shiite tradition (Druze, Alawites, Nizari, Alevis ...).

[reel]

I refrained from responding to Reel since her post was entirely ad homimem.

I'm willing to debate these issues and defend them myself. But as I'm still facing the task of completing the translation of this book, the translation process has my priority for now. Once finished I will gladly debate every detail of it. This translation process will also allow me to familiarize myself better with the fine details of its content and debate them with more expertise. I haven't spent two years working with E.M. Gallez. Though I wish I had!

You don't have to defend yourself bro. I still appreciate that you took time to translate. My criticism was towards the main writer.

I don't agree with you. See for instance sura 19,40 "We Only, We inherit the earth and all who are thereon, and unto Us they are returned." you will see in the third part of my book a short quranic study explaining this verse.

You don't have to agree with me. You are mainstream anyways and you will see everything by using that. So from one line you come to conclusion that conquering is permitted? Did the British and khans also go around invading countries by being inspired by this verse?

1. Gallez is by no mean a "prophet", just a scholar who based his work on facts and real historical material (ie contemporary sources of the events he tries to explain). Some of this material is rather new and revolutionnary (letters & documents that has been discovered lately, new methods and analysis, that haven't been taken into account by previous scholars. See Robert Hoyland's book, Seeing islam as others saw it - some of his work can be found here http//christianorigins.com/islamrefs.html# and here http//www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions/earlysaw.html and also in Alfred-Louis de Pr?mare's Les Fondations de l'islam / Islam's Foundations)

Your para above is a clear sign that your critical thinking ability is so bad that you won't even pass SAT. My comment about Abu Huraira was simply an analogy to your claim of why we should believe what you said (as in, I worked with the guy).

2. My book does not pretend to be something else than the vulgarization of his work. He asked me to do it because he doesn't have my "vulgarization" abilities, and because he is now too old and tired to cope with such a hard work. So, consider my book as his, he vouches for it.

Typical tactic used by journalists. When questioned blame the ones from whom the disinfo is taken.

• The term "Nasara" in the Qur'an, the meaning of his employment.

• The Nazarene figures in Islam as having instructed Muhammad (Waraqa, to a lesser extent Bahira). Islamic history cannot account for this.

• The concordance of Jewish eschatology (at least some scenarios) with Muslim eschatology and beyond, the strange similarity between numerous Muslim traditions with some Jewish traditions, such as the descent of the quran ("Isra and miraj" vs. Moses going to heaven to get the Torah from God) and others elements (texts, laws ...) ; the concordance of Nazarene worldview and that of Islam.

• The Syrian origins of the Qur'an and Islam the judeonazarene toponymy (place names, hills, temples, which are found in the quran, as Abil Bet Ma'ka Abu Kaaba, Abu Qobels ... ), the quraysh places names that are not found anywhere else (caravanserai of Quraysh, Quraysh River), archeology, with excavations that have shown that judeonazarenes lived in Syria and they lived together in same places with Arabs from the late 6th century, philology which showed that the language used in the quran is not south Arabic but north Arabic (see the work of Robert Kerr http//www.tingismagazine.com/article/the_language_of_the_koran.html) and the quran itself, which describes the pseudo-Meccans as inhabiting the Mediterranean regions (farmers, cattle breeders, fishermen) and describes their habitat (vegetation) as Mediterranean, as proved by Patricia Crone.

• The coincidence of the history of the Arab conquest of Jerusalem (including rediscovery by Alfred-Louis de Pr?mare) with the judeonazarene project to rebuild the temple, the sourced evidence of the presence of Jews with Arabs, the weirdness of the islamic testimonies of the reconstruction of the temple under Omar (built by and for Jews, whereas they are supposed to be hatred since the slaughter of Banu Qurayza in Medina)

• Chronicle of Pseudo Sebeos which I quote in The Great Secret of Islam

• New computer study of the quran (publication in 2014 of the thesis of Jean-Jacques Walter), which is a proof in itself (whereas the historical hypotheses are no more than probable hypotheses at most).

Etc, etc. To really dig the issue I recommend reading the thesis of Father Edouard-Marie Gallez, I have made no secret that it was essential for detailed understanding of what I describe in The Great Secret of Islam.

and also ...

It seems you wrote your book with the preconceived notion that Islam was a new religion/deen, Quran was a new book, Islam gave permission to Arabs to go around being savage.

Here is your Jean-Jacques Walter and his book

1. The Quran was written by at least thirty authors, more than one hundred, more likely fifty (p. 21)
2. The Koran was written over a period of more than two hundred years (p. 25)
3. The difference between suras of Mecca and Medina suras is a grammarian artifact without historical significance (p. 30)
4. Muhammad was inducted founding prophet of Islam earlier than 60 years after his death (p. 31)
5. The Islamic theology is not an innovation it is an almost "copied and pasted" the Nazarene theology. One of the few 50 authors of the Koran wrote all the verses that come from the Nazarene theology (p. 39)
6. The first foundation of Islam is not monotheism, but the anti-Christianity (p. 45)

As for your Father Edouard-Marie Gallez, since he is a clergyman (traditionalist just like rabbis and mainstream Muslim scholars who live in the land of lies) I will remain suspicious of his work.

This is not "my" claim but his. But I know enough of his claim to defend it myself

I did not expect you to lie. This is what you said in your website
relying on the work of real scientists, foremost among which Father Edward Gallez-Marie, with whom I worked for two years for writing the Great Secret of the Islam.

Knowledge about it comes from Dussaud's work, archaelogical excavations, Patricia Crone's work, interpretation of the quran and islamic traditions in the light of this new data, new and old sources that place the Ishmaelites in northern Iraq and Syria that are all cited in my book

This does not explain a thing about how they had all the resources for the conquest and wars. You don't seem to even understand the meaning of Islamic traditions. To me, its like saying that hadiths are true.

How about being suspicious of Edouard-Marie Gallez's work ? He's no journalist but an independant scholar, not linked to any institution funded with saudi oil money or hindered by political correctness...

You admitted that you are a journalist and my little google search revealed that Mr Edouard-Marie Gallez is a clergyman. The book or whatever you wrote now looks more like celebration of pinocchio's long nose.

Some historical uncertainties have been cleared out by Gallez's work. Lots remain also, but the point of Gallez's work (and also my book) is not to explain everything but to assert a general scheme, a sort of frame in which the events took place. This frame is 1) the transmission to some Arabs of a jewish-christian hope that the Messiah would come back as a political figure and that he would give the world to his true followers, ie Arabs and Judeonazarene 2) the appropriation of this hope by those Arabs, excluding the Judeonazarene, their former religion masters, from it. I believe Gallez has a very strong case to support this frame.

Academically, things remain unclear without the review done by other scholars. So you believe that only people of Abrahamic religions are waiting for messiah who would rule the world, but Quran just forgets to mention it? D

Already explained it in the book, many times, from the jewish perspective, the judeonazarene one, the Arab one, the muslim one ...

D Because I didn't mention its real meaning you didn't want to mention it either to save yourself.

I did more than study it I explained it with the idea of salvation and how it had been used (and still is used) as a political ultima ratio

Its actually psychological first and then political.

You seem to know my intentions better than me !! How prescient of you ... Actually, I have no other intention than to bear witness unto the truth, or at least unto what little we can know of it based on facts (and not on an history that has been written centuries after the events it is supposed to describe). It's like I am just telling people that Santa Claus does not exist. Kids (and grown ups) might feel pain learning this, but still, even the hugeness of this pain does not prevent Santa Claus from not existing.

I am not the only one who knows your intention better. That is why, journalism is dead and news channels are dying. Based on facts???? You truly don't have idea about academic research.

"Extremism" does not mean anything at all. A french comedian told once a joke about real "extremist" christians, that they should be giving hugs and kisses to everyone according to their texts (he might not have known some american extremist "christians" ...). I tried to explain the real roots of violence in religion and in political-philisophical systems it is the idea that we can achieve a world freed from evil, from pain, from bad guys, that we can build a "better" world, that we can change the very nature of the world and of men, that there is a salvation that is achievable through politics and human force. I showed that it comes from the news ideas introduced by Jesus and christians, who had at that time no political agenda at all, but triggered all sorts of "extremisms" among others.

Extremism means a lot. It takes away our liberty, gives power to elite, cleans up ghettos, generates profit, creates policies, divides people, maintains hate and gives birth to 50 shades of grey that you have here.

Hope my english is clear enough. Maybe I should quit debating since I feel I cannot express my ideas as well as I want to ... Maybe I should let Runninglikezebras do the talking. You tell me !

You have problem with English, but you are sure your work is full of facts? I have news for you. Zillions of English journal articles have looked into Islamic history. We use them to learn how much of what has truth. I see that Mr Edouard Marie Gallez's book has been received by certain databases, but not inspected by scholars. Hence, I would be careful in giving it importance right now.

You don't need to spend time defending yourself. It will not work on me at least because I have already seen so much blood shed your type has caused in this world through lies and manipulation that I can no more take you seriously. Do it for others if you wish to. I won't waste time responding here anymore.

Over and out

[Man_of_Faith]

It is not proper to replace a lie with another lie.

Quran is written in a script allegedly invented by the Nabeteans in northern Arabia, and the script was conspicuously finished only about 100-200 years before Quran was allegedly written. A Carbon-14 dating has shown likelihood that a copy of Quran that they have discovered is from before 600 with 75% or something probability, but that does not prove it is the oldest ever available.

Be safe
Amenuel

[huruf]

You don't have to defend yourself bro. I still appreciate that you took time to translate. My criticism was towards the main writer.
You don't have to agree with me. You are mainstream anyways and you will see everything by using that. So from one line you come to conclusion that conquering is permitted? Did the British and khans also go around invading countries by being inspired by this verse?
Your para above is a clear sign that your critical thinking ability is so bad that you won't even pass SAT. My comment about Abu Huraira was simply an analogy to your claim of why we should believe what you said (as in, I worked with the guy).
Typical tactic used by journalists. When questioned blame the ones from whom the disinfo is taken.

It seems you wrote your book with the preconceived notion that Islam was a new religion/deen, Quran was a new book, Islam gave permission to Arabs to go around being savage.

Here is your Jean-Jacques Walter and his book

1. The Quran was written by at least thirty authors, more than one hundred, more likely fifty (p. 21)
2. The Koran was written over a period of more than two hundred years (p. 25)
3. The difference between suras of Mecca and Medina suras is a grammarian artifact without historical significance (p. 30)
4. Muhammad was inducted founding prophet of Islam earlier than 60 years after his death (p. 31)
5. The Islamic theology is not an innovation it is an almost "copied and pasted" the Nazarene theology. One of the few 50 authors of the Koran wrote all the verses that come from the Nazarene theology (p. 39)
6. The first foundation of Islam is not monotheism, but the anti-Christianity (p. 45)

As for your Father Edouard-Marie Gallez, since he is a clergyman (traditionalist just like rabbis and mainstream Muslim scholars who live in the land of lies) I will remain suspicious of his work.
I did not expect you to lie. This is what you said in your website
relying on the work of real scientists, foremost among which Father Edward Gallez-Marie, with whom I worked for two years for writing the Great Secret of the Islam.
This does not explain a thing about how they had all the resources for the conquest and wars. You don't seem to even understand the meaning of Islamic traditions. To me, its like saying that hadiths are true.
You admitted that you are a journalist and my little google search revealed that Mr Edouard-Marie Gallez is a clergyman. The book or whatever you wrote now looks more like celebration of pinocchio's long nose.
Academically, things remain unclear without the review done by other scholars. So you believe that only people of Abrahamic religions are waiting for messiah who would rule the world, but Quran just forgets to mention it?
Because I didn't mention its real meaning you didn't want to mention it either to save yourself.
Its actually psychological first and then political.
I am not the only one who knows your intention better. That is why, journalism is dead and news channels are dying. Based on facts???? You truly don't have idea about academic research.
Extremism means a lot. It takes away our liberty, gives power to elite, cleans up ghettos, generates profit, creates policies, divides people, maintains hate and gives birth to 50 shades of grey that you have here.
You have problem with English, but you are sure your work is full of facts? I have news for you. Zillions of English journal articles have looked into Islamic history. We use them to learn how much of what has truth. I see that Mr Edouard Marie Gallez's book has been received by certain databases, but not inspected by scholars. Hence, I would be careful in giving it importance right now.

You don't need to spend time defending yourself. It will not work on me at least because I have already seen so much blood shed your type has caused in this world through lies and manipulation that I can no more take you seriously. Do it for others if you wish to. I won't waste time responding here anymore.

Over and out

Congratulate you on your patience, Reel, I have not been reading the work of Olaf, but overreding a line here and there, which is not much for sure, but for me it is enough to get the connfirmation that it is the same as it began and that it is all creativeness over,inter and intraclouded with plenty of unaconnected material which on sheer quantity and strength is forced as related to what it is purported to proofe, but which in fact continues to be unrelated. Tons of material, but useless for the declared purpose. Rather like prooving that since milk is white and a paper is also white one comes from the other.

And again all in the line of joyously discrediting the Qur'an. Meaningless work.

Salaam

[runninglikezebras]

You don't have to defend yourself bro. I still appreciate that you took time to translate. My criticism was towards the main writer.

Your criticism is indeed a personal attack on the author instead of criticism on elements of his work. As Olaf explained, it's difficult for him to defend in a language he doesn't fully master. So I'm stepping in. And will try to respond to your criticism where it is not aimed personally at the author but on supposed weaknesses in his work (which is still not completely translated by yours truly).

You don't have to agree with me. You are mainstream anyways and you will see everything by using that. So from one line you come to conclusion that conquering is permitted? Did the British and khans also go around invading countries by being inspired by this verse?

About the author being mainstream... This is a misunderstanding. As Olaf explained, he is a journalist. Part of his work, is to popularize work done by scholars so it becomes accessible to all. This does not mean the author himself is mainstream, in fact his orientation should be entirely irrelevant. The author is only using mainstream tools, such as social media, publishing the book and distributing it. The core idea itself is NOT mainstream it is the work of scholars that have not been getting enough attention by media in the past. The aim of the author is to change this and incorporate this knowledge into the mainstream thinking by publishing a book that is accessible to everyone and not only academics.

The British were never a muslim empire. The mongols were at some point however, in fact Islam was easy to embrace for the mongols since it fitted perfectly well with their already existing practice of conquest.

Your para above is a clear sign that your critical thinking ability is so bad that you won't even pass SAT. My comment about Abu Huraira was simply an analogy to your claim of why we should believe what you said (as in, I worked with the guy).

You are not asked to believe anything. You are encouraged to read and verify.

Typical tactic used by journalists. When questioned blame the ones from whom the disinfo is taken.

It seems you have a general distrust for journalism. I don't feel Olaf's work contains disinformation. The source references are the work of academics, scholars. If you disagree with them, I suggest you write a peer review. For a peer review, you will need substantial counter-evidence however, insulting someone's intelligence is not an academic argument.

It seems you wrote your book with the preconceived notion that Islam was a new religion/deen, Quran was a new book, Islam gave permission to Arabs to go around being savage.

And you base this suspicion on what?

Here is your Jean-Jacques Walter and his book

1. The Quran was written by at least thirty authors, more than one hundred, more likely fifty (p. 21)
2. The Koran was written over a period of more than two hundred years (p. 25)
3. The difference between suras of Mecca and Medina suras is a grammarian artifact without historical significance (p. 30)
4. Muhammad was inducted founding prophet of Islam earlier than 60 years after his death (p. 31)
5. The Islamic theology is not an innovation it is an almost "copied and pasted" the Nazarene theology. One of the few 50 authors of the Koran wrote all the verses that come from the Nazarene theology (p. 39)
6. The first foundation of Islam is not monotheism, but the anti-Christianity (p. 45)

Your point? I would agree with almost everyone of those points and they were indeed used in Olaf's work as source. The author has never hidden this.

As for your Father Edouard-Marie Gallez, since he is a clergyman (traditionalist just like rabbis and mainstream Muslim scholars who live in the land of lies) I will remain suspicious of his work.

Again, next to a suspicion in general for journalists you admit to being also suspicious of clergyman. There is nothing wrong with feeling like that, but you have to understand THOSE are NOT RATIONAL ARGUMENTS but entirely EMOTIONAL. Objectively, it doesn't matter if E-M Gallez is a clergyman. He published his thesis using academic standards for research and published it for academic review. Are academics not allowed to have a religion? If so, you should throw out 95% of your science books as most of those contain the understanding of roman catholic scientists.

I did not expect you to lie. This is what you said in your website
relying on the work of real scientists, foremost among which Father Edward Gallez-Marie, with whom I worked for two years for writing the Great Secret of the Islam.
This does not explain a thing about how they had all the resources for the conquest and wars. You don't seem to even understand the meaning of Islamic traditions. To me, its like saying that hadiths are true.

You accuse the author of not having explained how this was possible but the reasons are many times covered in the work of the author the devastating effect of the Persian-Byzantine war made conquest possible, while meeting little resistance. Next to this the author pointed to political reasons anti-Byzantine sentiments made the conquerors in some regions to be liberators. Predating this events the Justinian plague crippled the major powers (Byzantines-Persians) significantly.

You admitted that you are a journalist and my little google search revealed that Mr Edouard-Marie Gallez is a clergyman. The book or whatever you wrote now looks more like celebration of pinocchio's long nose.
Academically, things remain unclear without the review done by other scholars. So you believe that only people of Abrahamic religions are waiting for messiah who would rule the world, but Quran just forgets to mention it? D

This is also covered in the original work first of all it is mentioned in sura 19,40. Next to this the author explains how the messianist interpretation (waiting for a messiah to return), shifted to one of conquest and cult of the caliph (with caliphs as lieutenants of God). Furthermore the author never claimed this idea is exclusive to Abrahamic religion.

D Because I didn't mention its real meaning you didn't want to mention it either to save yourself.
Its actually psychological first and then political.
I am not the only one who knows your intention better. That is why, journalism is dead and news channels are dying. Based on facts???? You truly don't have idea about academic research.
Extremism means a lot. It takes away our liberty, gives power to elite, cleans up ghettos, generates profit, creates policies, divides people, maintains hate and gives birth to 50 shades of grey that you have here.
You have problem with English, but you are sure your work is full of facts? I have news for you. Zillions of English journal articles have looked into Islamic history. We use them to learn how much of what has truth. I see that Mr Edouard Marie Gallez's book has been received by certain databases, but not inspected by scholars. Hence, I would be careful in giving it importance right now.

You don't need to spend time defending yourself. It will not work on me at least because I have already seen so much blood shed your type has caused in this world through lies and manipulation that I can no more take you seriously. Do it for others if you wish to. I won't waste time responding here anymore.

Over and out

You keep repeating your general distrust for journalism (bordering paranoia) and projecting some hidden agenda on the author, that simply isn't there. You don't substantiate any of your criticism with rational arguments, but keep resorting to an emotional narrative of distrust for media. How do you expect Olaf to respond to this except shrug?

[Jafar]

Thank you @Olaf for the works..
And thank you @Runninglikezebras for the translation.
Shukran to both of you..

A long material, I will read and comment later..
In a meantime, please disregard the "Ad Hominemers"..
But I guessed you have expected as such, as the materials will not be a 'pleasant read' to many..
They feel 'personally attacked' by the materials, thus they directed their attack, in response to their inconvenience, to your 'persona'....
A common behaviors shown by human being everywhere...