A Challenge to All Believers of Quran
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Peace hawk99,
it is the other way around it is the nonsense translations that are commonly accepted that are cumbersome, weighed down with invented religious dogma, fabricated histories, fictional persons and contradictions, complicated to the point that no true value can be determined hence the religious mind is the weakest known, and have no contextual value to living in virtue or harmony, and always, always suggestive of the school of though of the Jews.
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On that I actually agree with Abdun Nur.
Be safe
Amenuel -
Peace hawk99,
it is the other way around it is the nonsense translations that are commonly accepted that are cumbersome, weighed down with invented religious dogma, fabricated histories, fictional persons and contradictions, complicated to the point that no true value can be determined hence the religious mind is the weakest known, and have no contextual value to living in virtue or harmony, and always, always suggestive of the school of though of the Jews.
On that I actually agree with Abdun Nur.
Be safe
AmenuelI believe you both believe what you believe )
Man of Faith I'm still waiting for your Arabic word for kill
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Man of Faith I'm still waiting for your Arabic word for kill
I already wrote that to you a while ago.
Edit I am making it easier for you. was the word I said then. I encountered it during my reinterpretation of Quran. That word means kill/murder/end someone's life.
means to subdue/master/defeat a person but does not imply whether the person dies, is captured or... is captivated, i.e. defeated verbally so they agree with your argument in a verbal persuasion. If the word is to specify that the person dies there has to be additional words such as .
Be safe
Amenuel -
if somebody is talking about grammer mistake,,, we can sort it out, very easily
the words of God are Arabic words so for understanding Arabic you need to decode it in another language if you mother language is not Arabic.. got it,,, so this is the error of translation by a interpretor ,decoder,translater whatever you say,,, but not the error of the one who sent this book down ,,, now with respect to this,, whole argument is worthless ,,,now we will see it scientifically.for communicating with somebody who is living so far,,, you need a =phone,, computer , tab so on
for communicating with Allah if you study the wordings of lord = quran
for communicating with Allah who dnt know Arabic = quran + translation from highly highly killed person who have command on both languages as a mother tounge.in this world the mobiles from china do work but not reliable,,, as compared to the best iPhone,,, even the best phone cant gurantee its reliability.... so how come we can compare the highly highly skilled person who still do mistakes by decoding from original lang to the others... so think like that plz that's the question of grammer ,,, of interpretation,,,, your logic is very weak not even a weak its weightless... so Allah is one...and only diety... now see the definition of Allah...by quran
1120 In the name of God, the Almighty, the Merciful.
1121 Say ?He is God, the One,?
1122 ?God, the Indivisible,?
1123 ?He does not beget, nor was He begotten,?
1124 ?And there is none who is His equal.? -
Hello Abdun Nur,
As a good role model of God you should not insult people in that manner.
Be safe
Amenuel -
I already wrote that to you a while ago.
Edit I am making it easier for you. was the word I said then. I encountered it during my reinterpretation of Quran. That word means kill/murder/end someone's life.
means to subdue/master/defeat a person but does not imply whether the person dies, is captured or... is captivated, i.e. defeated verbally so they agree with your argument in a verbal persuasion. If the word is to specify that the person dies there has to be additional words such as .
Be safe
AmenuelMan of faith, please give examples of
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Peace hawk99,
This guy explains it really nicely (I do not agree with everything he is advocating but there are some really interesting points in his lectures).
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM3qXyNBoZQ
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBmVPF47Qx4
...there are four parts...sorry it is a bit long.Wassalam.
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Peace mmmm, please give examples from the Quran.
Bro, I started a thread on that before. Qatal does have other meanings and they suit many verses rationally. I am posting the verse which Israfeel used to bully me about Quran.
And when Moses said to his people, "O my people, indeed you have wronged yourselves by your taking of the calf . So repent to your Creator and kill yourselves. That is best for you in the sight of your Creator." Then He accepted your repentance; indeed, He is the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful. 254
Satanic tafseerAn-Nasa'i, Ibn Jarir and Ibn Abi Hatim recorded Ibn `Abbas saying, "Allah told the Children of Israel that their repentance would be to slay by the sword every person they meet, be he father or son. They should not care whom they kill. Those were guilty whom Musa and Harun were not aware of their guilt, they admitted their sin and did as they were ordered. So Allah forgave both the killer and the one killed.'' This is part of the Hadith about the trials that we will mention in Surat Ta Ha, (20) Allah willing. (Tafseer ibn Katheer).
The worst thing I hear now is that anyone who does calf worshipping must be killed because of verse 254.
Truth Allah will never ever tell his slaves to go around killing. Qatal here means purification or making oneself humble.
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Truth Allah will never ever tell his slaves to go around killing.
Salam
Very true... sun...to further substantiate this please refer to Quran 0230
And, when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood....
Salam
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The Qur'an is a conceptual guide, always keep in mind one concept cannot contradict another. The establishment of a Qur?anic concept termed ?QISAAS? is the foundation of relief from all wrongs. It does not mean to inflict punishment on the wrongdoer, rather it means to pursue the wrongdoer in such a way that they are held accountable for their actions, and relief is established for both the soul/s wronged and the soul who acted to wrong. It means that in the substantive system, no wrongful action shall remain untracked, unanswered or ignored.
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Qatal is not "put to death" at all, only defeat a person, in various ways. Context defines.
Be safe
Amenuel -
Get well
Do you think your God approves of rudeness?
Be safe / be well is courtesy and wishing of well to people and you reply to me with "get well"?
I think the person who said "get well" is the person who needs to tell himself that the most.