Why every ones afraid
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Speaking about sheep, I consider that sheep (the real sheep) are wiser than many of humans.
I don't see them reject their own Creator.
I agree. It seems that all sheep are peaceful animals, unlike many humans who hurt/harm other human beings, animals and nature (the ecosystem). Also, sheeps benefit humanity by giving humans wool that they can make clothes with.
Quran 1680 And God has made your homes a habitat, and He has made for you from the hides of the livestock homes which you find light when you travel and when you camp; and from its wool, fur, and hair you make furnishings and goods, until a time.
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Hail to you Fusion,
Using sheep is an ancient way of producing allegorical language, but mostly sheep are used because they are fairly gullible and obedient without rebellion to the extent that they stick together to the same herd no matter what. This is also a fallacy which is why they are used in parables of old, for example the parable of the 100 sheep with one sheep that breaks the stereotype. I suppose you can figure out why if you draw a parallel to humans and belief. The meaning is obviously not to think about sheep in the parable but think about gullible humans who follow a sect blindly without questioning or 99% of people follow a faulty interpretation of a religious scripture. Sheep do not fight back if you try to herd them and that is another reason for their usage in parables (I have shepherded and tended sheep personally about 15 years ago). They are cute and peaceful, but I understand their metaphorical use.
There are also ones with camels, dogs and horses and many other animals.
Many thanks Amenuel for your detailed answer. I will need to read it more than once to understand your point of view. I never knew java is female, so that explains the patience level shown.
That had nothing to do with gender. And men are also often more nasty and unpleasant than women. Javalatte is not interested in my information yet she seems compelled to reply to a lot of my writings as to interfere. I suppose she thinks that I am misleading people and counteracts because she deems she's helping them; it may be a logical deduction. It is such a shame that in some cases if you are deluded into the wrong cause, believing in your folly you are onto the right one, you may actually be helping the wrong cause.
Such as in the fiction Star Wars when many people are deluded into serving the Galactic Empire or when millions of people started supporting Adolf Hitler or contemporaneously why so many people join the ISIS. No one in their right state of mind would be supporting this evil (Al-Zaliim = darkness) yet a lot of people do/did it and even validate/d it to the point it became the constitution of a nation. But it always starts with small, deluded yet fanatical ideas. A problem is that most people believe they do it for the greater good. ISIS do it because they believe they do good for their invented god Allah. The cause for all this is the instinctive drive of humans. The idolatrous primitive behavior of humans into obedience of insanity is a human instinct and is why the second "commandment" tells us not to make any such idol to represent our existence.
It does not matter if it is Emperor Palpatine, Adolf Hitler, Al-Baghdadi, Saddam Hussein, the ancient kings of Babylon, Nimrud, Pharaoh or fictitious characters such as Allah*; humans have a tendency to search for a powerful leader by instinct and this is often their undoing when they run into charismatic disguised wolves. They choose their leader so that it fits their ongoing instinctive desires; money, material, gods, et cetera. That is why it is always good to get rid of them and also boost their own Spirit inside so that they can "Be As Such" (allah) united instead rather than Be them and God.
There is a reason why God in Persian is called 'khoda', khoda means 'self' in Persian and if you for example are going to say "myself" you say 'khodam'. It has connections to the ancient Semitic understanding of Elah/Allah/Elohim which means 'who is as such' (allah) 'who are as such' (allehem) much like what you give in reference in the Persian version which would be like saying '(I) AM', i.e. from the Mosaic expression "I am who am I". There is a connection between it all which has been well dug down deep throughout history. You cannot look beyond yourself for God but you must find God within because the Spirit is there; it is a symbiotic phenomenon you are deluded from by the deception of your Body and its instinct (Satan). It was created to be like this.
- Here I imply the kind of hateful and primitive sectarian projected god as according to the pathetically interpreted Quran as according to the sectarians; not the Rabb that emerges when you have the competence to appropriately read it.
The Pagan forces of the World has contended this view of God and it is continuing also into this day by people such as JavaLatte, but not only her but a majority of the population of this forum. It is built around ignorance and the materialist perception of the World with distinctly separate entities. But as a matter of fact, in the end there is just one "entity"* in existence and that is God and everything exists under Its/His/Her "umbrella"; not Creation here and Creator there.
- If it is even possible to call that entity; it is difficult to have terminology for it since it "simply is". I have had allegorical language like "singularity" (a phenomenon which takes no space yet have an immense volume) which can easily explain the "umbrella effect" of God.
Red Pagan is more than a curse word or a word that means polytheist. It has also been corrupted from its original meaning and is an original Semitic word (Jinn/Jann ) which carries a Greek prefix and the word is to imply "worldliness" by its original definition. There are actually English dictionaries that carry the appropriate definition if you search, even if the etymology is completely off. A Pagan does not only materialize their God but they also think that the World should be appreciated and that it is a gift from the god(s) and their Body and attachment to it is like a blessing.
For your reference, means skin/outer layer as in referring to the outer layer of the World including Bodies. Often in elder scriptures the translators use "the flesh" to give reference to this. While browsing lexicons it is possible to make this out. The definitions often say "what covers/conceals a body" albeit this is misinterpreted as to think you speak of hidden/invisible but the word actually means "what covers on the outside". Jannateh is singular for "entity with outer layer", i.e. a body, and this word is often misleading people into thinking about some kind of nonexistent paradise just as people think Jahannom is some kind of Hell yet both words share the same root . Jahannom marks attachment to flesh condition.
In earlier religious tradition there was no Hell but this phenomenon emerged much later. You cannot see any talk about that in the Biblical Old Testament. Jahannom emerged as enlightenment later but perverted into something other than it is. But it is a place where you are constantly "given new skins". People are often allergic to the term "reincarnation". It is thus possible to get out of Jahannom, but the probability decreases by "falling to the Dark (zaliim) Side"; it breaks the Spirit.
There is another huge misconception and it is that you have to wait for the Kingdom of God but the Kingdom is at hand and if you die before you get there you will not get there. The sensation of awareness and departure from the Flesh must have come. In fact you live in the Kingdom of God already but you are deluded from seeing it but if you can remove that Body from clouding your Spirit then you shall see God. He (the attachment) is right there and so is the Realm.
Let me post a few passages from my translation project which may ring a ball about my condition
230 And then tell that your Sustainer made for the Ruler a contradiction in the World by telling ?It was made to be corrupting and persistently consume you, and fit to succeed is you commendable and pure is you who express that this is to learn what has not been learned?
231? And learn there is for every Persistent (Adam) a ?Door? each, because they widen to inspire unto the Ruler insight flowing out of the ?Door? if you become blessed"
232 Indicating your success is such being aware of that which you were not aware of that you are wisely aware.
"The Door" is my interpretation of a word in ancient Arabic that may refer to a "small door at the side of a big one" or a hole. It appears that "door" fits the translation in the clause after the first one since it says widens/become broad by that comes next.
means literally aware/awareness but in an English rendition you would make it learn because that is when you become aware of something.
There is a sectarian trap with Adam's name in the language and that is the fact this name is used metaphorically both as a standard word and reference to the first Body placed in the World; Prophet Adam; when Quran speaks of Bani Adam it speaks of every human on Earth including those who do not qualify to be Bani Israel (Children of the Chief). Quran is throughout this cryptic. Our species is called Adam and in Persia linguistically they still say Adam about Homo Sapiens. If you speak about a human you say an "adam".
I brought the definition of Adam from the root Dal-Waw-Miim which I deem is the appropriate definition based on comparison within the discourse. It is also cryptic for the purpose of being in the Adam endoskeleton. Your purpose is simply to persevere against its immense deception and rebellious nature to do exactly as it pleases itself ignoring its Spirit Master. I doubt the alternative Dal-Miim-Miim is an accurate root origin.
Dal-Waw-Miim (Dal-Alif-Miim) = To continue, endure, persist, remain, persevere, last, stand still, keep alive.
"Indicating" is my interpretative choice of "expressing" that it says literally.
I know the translation is just not anything like the sectarian interpretation of Quran, but ignore that that and reflect upon the impact of the expression instead. It is clear that it is formulated in allegorical manner.
In my translation there are inserted words because since you do not speak and write Arabic as you would with English it is impossible to translate word-by-word (even if my translation follows the Arabic sentence structure and rhythm). Arabic often omits pronouns and it lacks many prepositions whenever they are not necessary to convey the message. It can often be considered a minimalist language which is crude but efficient. You can often say much more information in fewer morphemes thus shorter time in conversation. Often with one letter as affix you have to say 2-3 words in English. That is something I have learned during my studies.
I know this is long but I am triggered by my Spirit to bless those who show curiosity with information. I am sure that in this age mankind is blessed with much more information than previously but that is according to the prophecy of Isaiah. I would not be sitting here writing for my own entertainment and if I was not so sure about it. I understand that for the grand majority this is unbelievable but that is just the trap because God is really amusingly cryptic and deceptive yet loving for the perceptive.
I wish I could formulate myself shorter, but I must relate to physical Knowledge because humans always require "evidence"/signs rather than being able to see this by their Spirit. Some days I wish I could throw Quran out the window but that would be a waste because the scripture contains immense Wisdom. The reason for my annoyance is because I am correcting the madness of men who have just been conjecturing for over thousand years, but yet it was also prophesied so I suppose I have to retain my patience.
Be safe
Amenuel -
Peace everyone,
In a post in this thread, I argued that there are both pros and cons with social media. I am all for using technology for networking activities and to find information/knowledge. But I think that it would be prudent to use social media in moderation. Because it seems that social media is a good/useful thing, only if it is used in moderation.
I would like to share four more articles about internet/social media here.
This Is How The Internet Is Rewiring Your Brain
http//www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/30/shocking-ways-internet-rewires-brain_n_4136942.html
The Shallows by Nicholas Carr ? review
http//www.theguardian.com/books/2011/jul/03/shallows-nicholas-carr-internet-neurology
'The Shallows' Has The Internet Rewired Your Brain?
http//www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127988880
Attention Spans Have Dropped from 12 Minutes to 5 Minutes ? How Social Media is Ruining Our Minds
http//www.adweek.com/socialtimes/attention-spans-have-dropped-from-12-minutes-to-5-seconds-how-social-media-is-ruining-our-minds-infographic/87484?red=st
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Osman,
The problem is not the forum itself but the misconception of what God is. I cause a disturbance by my commentary that we are a piece of God and to be associated rather than dissociated. It is heresy in the Muslim world.
But I participate still to a lesser extent but have moved much of my informative posting elsewhere. Now I carefully just add a comment most of the time that there is an alternative thinking. Not worth throwing pearls to swine and what is holy to dogs as Jesua said slightly sarcastically.
Be safe
Emanuel -
Osman,
God once said "I am who am I". "Tell the Children of Israel that "I AM" has sent you" (it would imply that you have sent yourself basically). Figure going to the Children of Israel "I AM has sent me. I have signs; look at this hand it is white as a leper's hand and my staff is mysteriously alive".
It was at this the word Elah began to be used which means "who is him" in third person instead of "I AM" (Allah is just an updated construct with Arabic grammar meaning "who is such as him" like an emphatic form). In the real system (deen) we are supposed to be a mirror of God, but that is forgotten knowledge in the wake of Paganism.
Have you reflected upon if you say "I am" you imply that you are alive.
In Persian they use the word Khoda for God, it means "self" in Farsi/Persian. It is a very very old word for God in that language.
Be safe
Emanuel -
I don't have a serious problem with meeting in real life, only by the boundaries of reasonable distance. As someone said very early on, for someone like me in the UK, with no disposable income, even getting from Manchester to somewhere like London, in the same country can be problematic.
Travelling Abroad is simply not possible at this time.
I'm a member of various facebook Quran only groups, which if I'm honest is occasionally flooded with hadithers who's english is so bad they don't even understand the group name. Sometimes the posts in some of the groups are interesting and relevant to living as a Quran only Muslim in society, others are as far as I'm concerned useless pictures with cheesy phrases.
A Skype/Whatsapp group is fine if it has anything relevant to bring to the table, is it about advancing the Quran only cause? About melding muslims of different opinions together? Then fine, this is a reasonable goal warranting such a group. Is it simply to chat/philosophise? then here is just fine.
I'm involved in UK politics, the only people who have my whatsapp number are those interested in the Muslim cause in the UK, and they are all; to my knowledge outside my own Wife + Ex Wife, hadithers. And that's the thing, hadithers care more about the day to day running of Muslim involvement in society so they are the ones I interact with on a daily basis.
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I don't have a serious problem with meeting in real life, only by the boundaries of reasonable distance. As someone said very early on, for someone like me in the UK, with no disposable income, even getting from Manchester to somewhere like London, in the same country can be problematic.
Yeah that was me, where are you based?
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Stockport, outside Manchester these days, I used to be in Walsall, Birmingham. Worse, I'm from Swindon, Wiltshire originally.
I can easily reach anywhere in Greater Manchester; Bradford / Yorkshire and West Midlands is manageable for a day out, London would have to be something special.
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Salaam,
Stockport, outside Manchester these days, I used to be in Walsall, Birmingham. Worse, I'm from Swindon, Wiltshire originally.
I can easily reach anywhere in Greater Manchester; Bradford / Yorkshire and West Midlands is manageable for a day out, London would have to be something special.
Travel to London can be expensive. I travel to London from Yorkshire more or less every week and it costs circa ?200 (for King's Cross) but that's because I can get away with just buying the ticket on the day. I'm okay though because my travel and accommodation is reimbursed. Ironic, I'm actually in London right now for the next week.
However, apparently, you can get train tickets on grand central if you book them way in advance. There is also megabus / megabus plus which I haven't used at all in the last two years but I remember tickets for single journey's being ?3/4, which is what I have used in my younger days. The capital of your own country shouldn't be so inaccessible for you to visit. I know people where I live and they think going to Leeds is such a big thing- let alone London. When in fact, it isn't. I would suggest looking on 'Megabus' and 'Grand Central' trains.
Salaam.
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Stockport, outside Manchester these days, I used to be in Walsall, Birmingham. Worse, I'm from Swindon, Wiltshire originally.
My goodness, even the Israelites wandering through the desert didn't have it as bad as you! Walk with God friend I have also lived in Birmingham city centre.
The capital of your own country shouldn't be so inaccessible for you to visit. I know people where I live and they think going to Leeds is such a big thing- let alone London. When in fact, it isn't.
Yes but that would make too much sense to be practical with any British government. I've never known a country as bad as the UK for transport, its bad enough during the week then on Sunday NOTHING works ANYWHERE in the country, and I mean all over the UK because I've worked all over the UK and transport links are always replaced by a replacement bus service on Sunday no matter where you are.
Also which boggles my mind is how a simple 200 mile trip can take 3, 4 or even 5 hours on a bad day - no other country I've lived in has this problem and I've lived in a few that are supposedly 'less developed'.
Strangely enough I am now living in Leeds city centre and its funny what you say because a lot of the people here only go out during the week because on the weekend the city is taken over by these strange creatures that come in from the Yorkshire countryside, they are devilish looking beings that are always walking around looking up at all the fancy tall buildings, making a mess, shouting, belching, vomiting an urinating all over streets.
There is a self-imposed segregation between the places that these people frequent as opposed to the places the urbanites frequent.
Where abouts in Yorkshire do you live?
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What's wrong with Huddersfield?
Everything is wrong with Huddersfield Nah, just kidding. Hehehe ;D
Huddersfield is probably a nice place.
By the way, I would love to visit the UK one day. Because I have never been in the UK. And because UK is an interesting country, in my opinion.
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Everything is wrong with Huddersfield Nah, just kidding. Hehehe ;D
Huddersfield is probably a nice place.
By the way, I would love to visit the UK one day. Because I have never been in the UK. And because UK is an interesting country, in my opinion.
Everyone who hasn't been to the U.K. Seems to think it's an interesting place.
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Everyone who hasn't been to the U.K. Seems to think it's an interesting place.
Well, I think UK is an interesting place because of its history, diversity and opprtunities. Also, I like European countries in general and would like to travel to several European countries in the future, if I get the time/opportunity to travel to several countries. Don't you think the UK is an interesting place?