The Paris massacre - Silence as always
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Well what's the point of faking the recent attack in Paris? ISIS has for long threatned to attack Europe and it has done so several times and will probaly do it in the future too.
This is a good point, however on the flip side - following the pattern of clear 9/11 and 7/7 staged terror, they'd rather have a certain control over the attacks from an intelligence standpoint just like GLADIO in the 20th Century.
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Suicide bombers takes place everyday in Iraq. The Gulf-countries recently waved the French flags but where was the Iraqi flags when +1000 Iraqis (air force cadets and civilians) were massacred by ISIS terrorists in Speicher base (also known as Speicher massacre)? https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Speicher_massacre The Gulf-countries are doing the same terrorism in Yemen too.
Massgraves were recently found in Iraq containing mostly Yezidi women who were executed by ISIS/Daesh.Good point..
The Iraq massacre - Silence as always
The Shiites massacre - Silence as always
The Yemen invasion - Silence as alwaysWhen a bunch of Islamist nutcase bombed "The West" it grabbed everyone attention.
When a bunch of Islamist nutcase murdered a whole bunch of Shiites Kuffar..
Well they're a kuffar after all, their blood are halal to be shed.. for the sake of Allah religion.The religion of Islam is on it's way to extinction.. that's for sure..
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This is a good point, however on the flip side - following the pattern of clear 9/11 and 7/7 staged terror, they'd rather have a certain control over the attacks from an intelligence standpoint just like GLADIO in the 20th Century.
Following the pattern of 9/11, daily life in Syria, daily life in Iraq and daily life in Yemen.
It's clear that the Holy Kingdom Of Saudi Arabia + their wahabist clerics and rich sheiks + their gulf neighbors are actively playing the supporting role.. financially, ideologically and politically. -
Peace all
In any case, the blame game will never stop. The dichotomized world view will reign till the end of time. One "side" will blame another "side". Both "sides" are made up of human beings. The human being in unable to see the faults in him/herself. The human being is incapable of living in peace.
This is actually not about "whosdunnit", because the human being is by default corrupt, and any attempt at blaming any particular group is just uninformed and a waste of time.
The only difference between different groups and ideologies is found in the variables of 1) time, 2) experience/upbringing/brainwash and 3) intensity. And it is all shaped by CHANCE. We are what we are by mere chance (or divine predestination if you wish). But we're all corrupt to some degree.
Any 'holier than thou' attitude stinks. Best of moulds --> lowest of beings.
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The religion of Islam is on it's way to extinction.. that's for sure..
bravo
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I was clearly not saying 9/11 was a Saudi job. 9/11 was a US/Israeli job.
Again.. "a denial of facts and blame everything to the jews and americans attitude"
- What's the citizenship of the 9/11 hijackers?
- What do you know about a guy named "Turki al-Faisal Al Saud" ?
- What do you know about a guy named "Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al Saud" ?
- What do you know about a guy named "Mohammed Al Faisal Al Saud"?
- What do you know about a guy named "Waleed Bin Talal Bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud"?
Of course, please please do your own research.. and then get to your own conclusion...
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This Muslim sums it up best... he's pissed like hell and blasts all the fundamentalists n their sympathizers... brickwall brickwall
https//youtu.be/aj12Yrib9ic
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Again.. "a denial of facts and blame everything to the jews and americans attitude"
- What's the citizenship of the 9/11 hijackers?
- What do you know about a guy named "Turki al-Faisal Al Saud" ?
- What do you know about a guy named "Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al Saud" ?
- What do you know about a guy named "Mohammed Al Faisal Al Saud"?
- What do you know about a guy named "Waleed Bin Talal Bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud"?
Of course, please please do your own research.. and then get to your own conclusion...
Swallow everything hook and sinker. My God. Humans, at least some of themmust have the biggest throats in the universe, all they can swallow of a go.
Salaam
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Provide a verse in the Quran where Allah orders you to perform 5 daily rituals. Remember, Quran is a guide and not a puzzle game and Allah doesn't beat around the bush. Would it really make any sense for Allah to not be explicit in such important matters regarding salat? Would it make sense for Allah to not be clear about Mecca instead of calling it Bakkah? Would it make any sense for Allah not to be clear about and let alone mention the so called stone cube in Mecca? The forgiving black stone that is kissed in hajj for forgiveness? The magical holy zamzam water?
If this stone cube is holy and five daily rituals are to be performed, please provide a verse in the Quran telling you it is. Please provide these verses without performing mental gymnastics.Muslims are cursed. They have placed creation(a stone cube) between them and the Creator during their worship. They mention dead people and greet invisible beings in their worship. You do not need sticks, stones or humans to worship your Creator. You do not need 5 daily pagan rituals to worship your Creator. Allah is closer to you than your jugular vein. Allah is always there for you. Allah is all you need because there is nothing but Allah. Allah is he, whom all knowledge originates from. The Source of Knowledge. It makes no sense for the Creator to require the assistance of his own creation, Bukhari and Co or a stone cube.
"Verily, Prayer is enjoined on the believers to be performed at fixed hours." (4104)
"1- Wudu (ablution) as decreed in 56
2- Face Mecca as Qiblah (direction of prayer) as in 2144
3- Commemorate the name of God alone in prayer (6162, 2014)
4- Use Quranic words and not words from any other source, this is the message of 2945
5- Stand, then bow then prostrate in that order while commemorating God."I cant say pray 5, 3 or 10. But do whatever youd like, God is our only judge and God knows everything.
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Saudi-Arabia condeming ISIS is like Hitler condeming Stalin (or vice versa) for killing people.
When a bunch of Islamist nutcase murdered a whole bunch of Shiites Kuffar..
Well they're a kuffar after all, their blood are halal to be shed.. for the sake of Allah religion.Agreed. It explains why Saudi-Arabia did not sympthatize with those Iraqis who were massacred just because they were Shias. As a Muslim all I can say is if you want a better solution get rid of religion and you will get rid of these religious Saudi savages letalone any so called 'Muslim' who has the intentions of promoting his/her 'moderate Islam'. One thing that truly bothers me about some Arab countries is the fact that they spend billions of dollars letalone any funds on building mosques and religious garbage..
The religion of Islam is on it's way to extinction.. that's for sure..
In the Arab world yes. The constitutions are becoming more secular and liberal as they get rewritten and religious texts are being removed. Look what Egypt did to the Muslim brotherhood and to other Islamist groups. It banned them all. That's not to mention that the majority Muslims are not even Arabs but from other parts of Asia due to the demographics there and because Islam is dying in the Middle East and North-Africa.
Check this out
http//www.salon.com/2015/11/20/western_ally_saudi_arabia_sentenced_a_palestinian_poet_to_death_for_renouncing_islam/ - "Western ally Saudi Arabia sentenced a Palestinian poet to death for renouncing Islam" <-- This is from the same country that recently 'condemned' ISIS for the Paris massacre.
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Saudi-Arabia condeming ISIS is like Hitler condeming Stalin (or vice versa) for killing people.
Saudi Arabia / Saud Family condemning ISIS is similar to
- Lenin condemning Stalin
- Hitler condemning Himmler
- Reagan condemning Osama Bin Laden
One thing that truly bothers me about some Arab countries is the fact that they spend billions of dollars letalone any funds on building mosques and religious garbage..
They spend billion of dollar on weapon, including chemical weapon as well.. to wreak havoc on their neighboring countries.. eggh I mean to uphold the religion of Allah...
In the Arab world yes. The constitutions are becoming more secular and liberal as they get rewritten and religious texts are being removed.
I'm sorry, as far as I know Saudi Arabia DOES NOT HAVE any constitution.
Everything is left to Saud Family and (Saud funded) Council of Clerics (Majlis Hayat Kibar al Ulama) to decide.Check this out
http//www.salon.com/2015/11/20/western_ally_saudi_arabia_sentenced_a_palestinian_poet_to_death_for_renouncing_islam/ - "Western ally Saudi Arabia sentenced a Palestinian poet to death for renouncing Islam" <-- This is from the same country that recently 'condemned' ISIS for the Paris massacre.The Allah law on apostasy..
It's crucial for their existence to impose apostasy law otherwise the extinction of Islam religion can happen very fast."If Muslims had gotten rid of the punishment for apostasy, Islam will not exist today"
-- Sheikh Yusuf Al Qaradawi, chairman of the International Union of Muslim Scholars -
They spend billion of dollar on weapon, including chemical weapon as well.. to wreak havoc on their neighboring countries.. eggh I mean to uphold the religion of Allah...
Yah that and on European prostitution and drugs (especially captagon pills + cocaine).
I'm sorry, as far as I know Saudi Arabia DOES NOT HAVE any constitution.
Everything is left to Saud Family and (Saud funded) Council of Clerics (Majlis Hayat Kibar al Ulama) to decide.Well I was excluding Saudi-Arabia. Saudi-Arabia has nothing to do with the Arab world. Saudi-Arabia is a result of pan-Islamism (which opposes pan-Arabism) and not pan-Arabism. The barbarism in Saudi-Arabia today comes from pan-Islamism. Propagandists like Aidid Safar will never mention this fact instead he will try to blame Arabs acting as if Arabs somehow hjiacked Islam despite the fact that the same people who hjiacked Islam opposed pan-Arabism. ISIS burns the Palestinian, Iraqi, Syrian and any other 'non-Islamic' flag because it opposes pan-Arabism. Its ideology is Islamism.
If anything pan-Arabism has always promoted equality and secularism. For example this political party which was banned from Saudi-Arabia by the Saudi regime https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Socialist_Action_Party_%E2%80%93_Arabian_Peninsula
All the political parties that are secular, that calls for democracy in the Arab world, are Arab nationalist political parties and never Islamist dominated parties. These pan-Arab parties are considered a threat by the West which is why Western politicians have been supporting their savagery Islamist 'moderate' regimes. The same people in Paris that massacred over hundred people are the same terrorists the West is supporting in the Arab Peninsula. Check out this video of David Cameron who can't answer a simple question. He is asked why Britain has relations with Saudi-Arabia that lacks human rights https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMh7RG6_Tp4
Also It is outrageous that Muslims get attacked by right-wing morons. Muslims are one of the biggest victims of ISIS and they are also victims of European right-wing attacks. European right-wingers will never mention the fact that their own garbage politicians (who are probaly right-wingers as well) are supporting regimes who have the same ideology as the recent attackers in Paris. Meanwhile the majority people that are fighting against ISIS are actually Muslims.
Crimes by right-wingers
http//www.thelocal.fr/20151119/veiled-woman-attacked-in-southern-france - Veiled Muslim woman attacked in southern France
http//www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/11/17/muslim-woman-attacked-school_n_8581002.html - Muslim woman attacked in Toronto, told to ?go back to your country'
The Allah law on apostasy..
It's crucial for their existence to impose apostasy law otherwise the extinction of Islam religion can happen very fast."If Muslims had gotten rid of the punishment for apostasy, Islam will not exist today"
-- Sheikh Yusuf Al Qaradawi, chairman of the International Union of Muslim ScholarsThat's so true.
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"Verily, Prayer is enjoined on the believers to be performed at fixed hours." (4104)
"1- Wudu (ablution) as decreed in 56
2- Face Mecca as Qiblah (direction of prayer) as in 2144
3- Commemorate the name of God alone in prayer (6162, 2014)
4- Use Quranic words and not words from any other source, this is the message of 2945
5- Stand, then bow then prostrate in that order while commemorating God."I cant say pray 5, 3 or 10. But do whatever youd like, God is our only judge and God knows everything.
- The words "Wudu" or "ablution" are nowhere to be found in 56. Just a baseless interpretation telling you to wash your arms, face,head and legs which makes no sense. You're told by Allah step-by-step how to perform this washing ritual without even calling it something but not told step-by-step how to peform the salat ritual itself the same clear and precise way as this washing process is explained. This leaves only with two explanations. Either Allah forgot to tell us how to perform the salat ritual but told us how to step-by-step wash before performing it OR this is a false interpretation. What if you were born deformed? How would a disabled person perform this washing ritual which hasn't even got a name in the Quran? Do you really think Allah would deprive a person born deformed to not be able to salat since you have to perform this nameless washing ritual "before rising for salat" as this interpretation claims?
The same verse you quoted(56) ends with the following; "Allah does not wish to place you in a difficulty, but to make you clean, and to complete his favour to you, that you may be grateful."
This interpretation contradicts itself since you need a pair of hands and legs to perform this nameless washing ritual whenever you rise for salat. What if there is no water available? Oh yes, you make yourself even dirtier by rubbing soil on yourself. What if you're born disabled? No explanation is given for that in the Quran.
Assuming this interpretation is true, people born disabled are automatically excluded from performing the nameless washing ritual and salat. That isn't fair hence this is a false interpretation. Every sane human has the ability to perform salat. Quran talks about not being able to perform salat while intoxicated. This means you only need a sound and sober mind, not legs, arms, feet, mouth or ears. Even deaf people can perform salat. True salat happens in the mind. The 5 daily pagan rituals gives Muslims the illusion of righteousness. It feeds their ego.- MAINSTREAM INTERPRETATION "We have certainly seen the turning of your face, , toward the heaven, and We will surely turn you to a qiblah with which you will be pleased. So turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you are, turn your faces toward it . Indeed, those who have been given the Scripture well know that it is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do."
Removing the falsely inserted words that cannot be found in the Quran gives you the following.
"We have certainly seen the turning of your face, toward the heaven, and We will surely turn you to a qiblah with which you will be pleased. So turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you are, turn your faces toward it. Indeed, those who have been given the Scripture well know that it is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do."
Please tell me WITHOUT mental gymnastics, where in that verse Allah orders you to "face Mecca as qiblah" as you claim. Please find me the stone cube in Mecca in this verse. Muslims have put a stone cube between them and Allah during worship. These mushriks only worship Allah when including stones and mention dead people in their pagan rituals they call salat.
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You cannot commemorate Allah alone in salat while performing perfoming pagan rituals that is falsely labelled as salat.
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Quran contains stories of prophets. Reciting Quran while worshipping Allah means you're mentioning dead people in your salat. Only Allah can be mentioned during salat.
The verse you quoted; "Recite, what has been revealed to you of the Book and establish prayer. Indeed, prayer prohibits immorality and wrongdoing, and the remembrance of Allah is greater. And Allah knows that which you do."
Physical movements does not prevent immorality. On top of that, the verse itself tells you that the remembrance of Allah is greater, not making physical movements and worshipping a stone cube.
5.Stand, bow and prostrate has nothing to do with physical actions. This has been debunked in many other threads here. The hijackers of the Quran spread false interpretation and over years convinced people that these words means physical movements. They did the same with the word Zakah. Zakah has nothing to do with charity. Zakah is purification. Since these pagans couldn't tamper with the Quran, they invented their own language.
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Peace.
Are there 5" salat" per day? Shall we start
Sura 1 proves there are 5 daily contact prayers
Chapter 1 has 7 verses
17 is the number of Rakaats/ units in the 5 daily prayers.
2 + 4 + 4 + 3 + 4= 1729 Arabic words in the 7 verses of chapter 1
29 is the number of initial chapters in the Quran114 chapters overall in the Quran.
114 - 29 = 85
85 is the number of uninitial chapters in the Quran
85 = 17 x 517 Rakaats/units in 5 daily prayers
OK, it is numerology and coincidence?
Forget 29 or 17.Move to sura 2?
Chapter 2 proves there are 5 daily contact prayers
Chapter 2 is the 1st initial chapter
Chapter 2 has 286 verses
1286
1+2+8+6 = 17 There are 17 units/Rakaats in a day1286 x 19 = 24434
2 4 4 3 4 are units of prayers in a day
2+4+4+3+4 = 17Is this 5 prayers also?
Fine, move to surah3...etc
Come on good logic,stop this nonsense?
GOD bless you all.
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Peace.
Are there 5" salat" per day? Shall we start
Sura 1 proves there are 5 daily contact prayers
Chapter 1 has 7 verses
17 is the number of Rakaats/ units in the 5 daily prayers.
2 + 4 + 4 + 3 + 4= 1729 Arabic words in the 7 verses of chapter 1
29 is the number of initial chapters in the Quran114 chapters overall in the Quran.
114 - 29 = 85
85 is the number of uninitial chapters in the Quran
85 = 17 x 517 Rakaats/units in 5 daily prayers
OK, it is numerology and coincidence?
Forget 29 or 17.Move to sura 2?
Chapter 2 proves there are 5 daily contact prayers
Chapter 2 is the 1st initial chapter
Chapter 2 has 286 verses
1286
1+2+8+6 = 17 There are 17 units/Rakaats in a day1286 x 19 = 24434
2 4 4 3 4 are units of prayers in a day
2+4+4+3+4 = 17Is this 5 prayers also?
Fine, move to surah3...etc
Come on good logic,stop this nonsense?
GOD bless you all.
Peace.Peace Good logic
Quran is a guide and not a puzzle game. Allah does not shy away from the truth. If Allah wants something done, it is explicitly mentioned. No puzzle games or mental gymnastics.
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Peace Brother.
Of course you have the choice to do as you please.
Now Allow me to give another " tafseer" for salat
GOD wishes no hardship imposed on us in practicing our religion. Any suggestion in mythology as to how to perform some of the details that move us in the direction of making the religion difficult, cannot be from GOD and is not approved by Him.
It is simple, intention to do your "salat" then follow Qoran
GOD says in Qoran when you observe the "salat"
- Wash your face, and we have 1 face.
- Wash your arms to the elbow, and we have 2 arms.
- Wipe your head, and we have 1 head.
- Wipe/Wash your feet to the ankles, and we have 2 feet.
1 + 2 + 1 + 2 = 6
Before performing our 5 daily "salat", we do the above 6 actions in our ablution.
This is why Almighty GOD has placed the instruction for ablution in 56.
People should be able to do these actions comfortably, without any hardship( and if they cannot, they use "dry ablution"-Tayammum". People are men, women, left-handed, right-handed, tall, short, fat, skinny, and all sort of other things. How to do "salat" is well preserved for generations confirmed by Qoran.In regard to our feet, some people might say that the Quran says we should wipe our feet to the ankles instead of washing them. GOD says that He loves those who are clean. The believers should use their own judgment, this is a test for all of us. We must not create division between ourselves dueling on this issue. Regardless of washing our feet or wiping them, GOD will not throw our "salat" to waist.
Our intention and timing must be resolute and our "salat" must be dedicated to GOD ALONE.
Thank you brother.
GOD bless you.
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Sorry osman, the word should have been "waste"! In other words it will not be in vain.