What is love? - discuss.

Jane

If God is love;
and love is blind;
and Stevie Wonder is blind;
that means...Stevie Wonder is God.

confused

Edit Lol, unfortunately I did not come up with this quote myself, but I am not sure who it is attributed to...

Edit 2 I do not actually think Stevie Wonder is God, but I do think he is a tremendously all-round awesome person 'I just called to say I love you' - Genius.

Jane

Peace,

Some men have neanderthal brains when it comes to romantic stuff. Our idea of love is coming home with a piece of meat. Ogg!!

God bless you

That is fine. Just as long as the 'piece of meat' is not your secretary rotfl

huruf

Interesting thoughts as usual, huruf. I suppose for me, it's difficult to understand the concept of redemption based on repeated actions that are destructive. Some part of it is asking why should it be a duty and/or why surround oneself with toxicity...For those that have no choice in loving someone (some might say of course you have a choice), it's something that they do regardless. If done with a higher purpose in mind, knowing full well what the person is and sticking to that all their lives, well, they have all my respect because it definitely is something that denotes a strength of character one usually just reads about in legends.

Duty, joy and learning etc are different aspects I think, that can be factors in whichever relationship one has with something. What I meant when I said that in a previous post was, one may feel beholden to love their family out of a sense of duty, but is that really love? Can one love something out of duty? Not sure, I think it would be difficult. Can one love something because of the joy it brings? Yes, more likely. Learning is across the board. Can you love something because it's beautiful? Yes, more likely, also vice versa, more you love something, the more beautiful it becomes. Then again, there are cases where we can't really pinpoint why we love someone, we just know that we do. Obviously, there must be something there, some underlying reasons why we feel the way we do, I can't be satisfied with well, it just is...but yeah, figuring what that something may be is interesting because it points to a process and gives it a more rational aspect than a mysterious emotion that can strike anyone at any time unaware and we are totally helpless in the face of it.

I kind of disagree regarding choosing who to love being fated, in that case, we might as well say everything is fated to be a certain way, which may or may not be true. I believe our choices are ours and of course, we are meant to learn from everything, even those we choose to love (even if it seems like we had no choice) whether or not it ends up being amazing or awful. Love definitely is a learning experience like other emotions, but it tends to overshadow a lot of the others probably because there is just so much built up around it making it an integral part of our lives as a driving force...disappointment too is just as important I'd say, but it's love's evil step sister and not as glamorous

Some people may choose who to love, the same way that they choose the home they want to live in. I do not see anything wrong with that. BUT that is some people not all people. Not by far all people. Many people may still marry and be married and have a "reasonable" family life. BUT some people, not all people.

There are all kinds of people. For some people to choose whom you love is to drive Destiny-God-Fate, or whatever out of their lives, and also impossible. The fall in love and that is it. Satistically I think that the marriages that succeed one way or other is not significant, be it out of chosen love or be it out of fated love (if you want to call it that) all marriages are liable to fail and also to work out well. I have seen many examples of both.

People are different and we do not need a rule that makes anybody feel guilty or idiot for being different. It is like people who have a lot of physical energy and never stop doing everything, spanking the house and everything. Some times they think they are better because the work so much, but the fact is that they are made that way. It is not their merit, but their need, and it is cheating to make out of their need a rule for virtue.

So people who want to choose whom they love, fine, people who fall in love likes tons of bricks, fine. Love of God is for all of them and they enjoy some of God's gifts, to each her or his gift. And never forget to be thankful, no gift of God is poisoned.

Salaam

Jane

Can you love something because it's beautiful? Yes, more likely, also vice versa, more you love something, the more beautiful it becomes.

Wow. So love is powerful then? Is not just some 'feeling'. It IS something and it DOES do things.

And if you don't love something it becomes weak or tired - or even ugly?

Hmmmm

Jane

Body heat from 'emotional states'...

Researchers from Aalto University in Finland have revealed how emotions are experienced in the body.

http//3.bp.blogspot.com/-qRrQrkVSK-w/UsNFZS6_S2I/AAAAAAAACKI/DEQthz-iJMI/s640/love_meme.png

Whoever did it is at least trying to make a point about love being powerful anyway....

See more at http//www.naturalblaze.com/2013/12/research-team-reveals-how-emotions-are.

JavaLatte

I think that "love" is also a sign of the existence of God (the Creator),

and I tend to agree with this quote

"You will never find true love
until you first learn to love Allah"

I don't know whether that quote is right or not, but in my view, it seems to be right/true.

hanslan

Salam, maybe it is the other way.

Understand and appreciate Allah's love

then you will understand true love.

HP_TECH

I think that "love" is also a sign of the existence of God (the Creator),

and I tend to agree with this quote

"You will never find true love
until you first learn to love Allah"

I don't know whether that quote is right or not, but in my view, it seems to be right/true.

Peace,

The question was beautifully open ended and allowed for different opinions to unravel. I agree with your statement Java, not sure about the quote though. The Quran states per 3021 IT IS MOST DEFINITELY a SIGN
"And one of His signs is that He created mates for you from yourselves that you may find rest in them, and He put between you love and compassion; most surely there are signs in this for a people who reflect."
Forget those anonymous quotes

What are we saying when we talk about love? Is it romanticism, compassion, affection I doubt lust. @ Sonny You must understand ins scientific terms almost anything can be reduced to chemical biological processes but how that connects to the emotion is left wanting. You cannot chemically quantify your level of affection! LoL - a boy
And affection from Us and purity, and he was fearing of Allah
And dutiful to his parents, and he was not a disobedient tyrant."

Love/affection/compassion/kindness between brothers in the faith/relatives/siblings?

6414 O you who believe, from among your spouses and your children are enemies to you; so beware of them. And if you pardon, and overlook, and forgive, then God is Forgiver, Merciful.

3159 It was a mercy from God that you were soft towards them; had you been harsh and hard-hearted, they would have dispersed from you; so pardon them and ask forgiveness for them, and consult them in the matter; but when you are convinced, then put your trust in God; for God loves those who put their trust.

Love/ affection/compassion/kindness between strangers/poor/needy/traveler/etc..?

765 As for the pious, they will drink from a cup with the scent of musk.
766 A spring from which the servants of God drink, it gushes forth
abundantly.
767 They fulfill their vows, and they fear a Day whose consequences are widespread.
768 And they give food out of love to the poor and the orphan and the captive.
769 ?We only feed you seeking the face of God; we do not desire from you any reward or thanks.?
7610 ?We fear from our Lord a Day, which will be horrible and difficult.

Or are we talking about a mixture of the above and romantic love?
Moses Love story, love at first sight?
2825-27
Then one of the two women came to him walking with shyness. She said, "Indeed, my father invites you that he may reward you for having watered for us." So when he came to him and related to him the story, he said, "Fear not. You have escaped from the wrongdoing people."
One of the women said, "O my father, hire him. Indeed, the best one you can hire is the strong and the trustworthy."
, "Indeed, I wish to wed you one of these, my two daughters, on that you serve me for eight years; but if you complete ten, it will be from you. And I do not wish to put you in difficulty. You will find me, if Allah wills, from among the righteous."

She "had the hots" for Moses and her father realized quite soon. Moses accepted fairly quickly as well. Maybe it was his compassion in helping them without asking for anything in return and a combination of his strength but I see this as a story of Love at first sight.
Now I'm hoping I'm not making conjecture or inappropriate statements about believers but isn't this love story beautiful?

Thanks

P.S. I am a hopeless romantic ;D
and forgive the mediocre translations just use as reference please

reel

I think that "love" is also a sign of the existence of God (the Creator),

and I tend to agree with this quote

"You will never find true love
until you first learn to love Allah"

The question was beautifully open ended and allowed for different opinions to unravel. I agree with your statement Java, not sure about the quote though.

I don't know whether that quote is right or not, but in my view, it seems to be right/true.

I agree with HP_TECH that the line is very open ended. Love is very powerful. The one who rejects it will always end up with bites. This is true for countries too.

huruf

I thik every love is the love of God, butit may cometo us twisted through corruption.

If we think of love as the universal thing, coming from God an so on, we must look for it in the Qur'an, and i would say it is the rahma. The kind of love that is usually associated with somethig universal, ious and os on, the kind that we are fed through idealised preachingand so on. I think, for accuracy sake that we should stick to the Qur'anic words for that, sothat we know what we are exactly seaking about.

There are different words in the Qur'an that we translate as love. Widda is one, habba is another...

Salaam

hanslan

Salam

Was inspired one day as to the rationale the Creator creates. Ar-rahman & Ar-rahim are the reasons for creation. Since the actual meaning of those words are beyond our full comprehension, suffice to say love (may not be the accurate word) is part of those two attributes. The absence of those two attributes will bring the Creator's destructive attribute (I get this hint from At-Taubah).

Anyway, just to share. I may be completely wrong.

JavaLatte

Moses Love story, love at first sight?
2825-27
Then one of the two women came to him walking with shyness. She said, "Indeed, my father invites you that he may reward you for having watered for us." So when he came to him and related to him the story, he said, "Fear not. You have escaped from the wrongdoing people."
One of the women said, "O my father, hire him. Indeed, the best one you can hire is the strong and the trustworthy."
, "Indeed, I wish to wed you one of these, my two daughters, on that you serve me for eight years; but if you complete ten, it will be from you. And I do not wish to put you in difficulty. You will find me, if Allah wills, from among the righteous."

She "had the hots" for Moses and her father realized quite soon. Moses accepted fairly quickly as well. Maybe it was his compassion in helping them without asking for anything in return and a combination of his strength but I see this as a story of Love at first sight. )

Hehe, I think that's a sweet analysis.

Now I'm hoping I'm not making conjecture or inappropriate statements about believers but isn't this love story beautiful?

Yes, I actually like the couple (Moses and his wife). )

But... if 'today' I'm being asked about what is love,

then perhaps this is my reaction... http//emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/crazy-monkey/crazy-monkey-emoticon-181.gif?1292792426

fye

crap someone said baby don't hurt me.
lolz
love is simple and hate is it's opposite.

shaitan and his minions are enemies to you.

you want what is best for the things you love, you want to do the opposite of hurt them, you want to do the opposite of watching them suffer, you want to do the opposite dominating them.

saying like "I got mad love for so and so" are different kinds of love like I want to be among their helpers, while sayings like "I hate that @##^#$" show you want to be among his enemies and defeat-ers. or you want to share in victory with or over them.

there is a verse in the quran about recommending a good cause and sharing therein.

another love is roman love ("roman-tic&quot we still don't have a word for that seeing how the romans have been defeated and there way of life has passed away, yet they will return (surah rum).
if I were to think of a word it's bonding love, your life is equal to my life is respect, while your life is greater than my life is infatuation, the blending of these two ideals is romantic love after bonding is an objective. your your life is equal too and greater than mine and if our lives were bonded we can share in confort you from my life and I from your life, this is why making heat together is so similar to every dirt love making thing people do (and animals).

in this world we were thrown because someone disobeyed almighty god, and it's sweat and toil, hard-work and compared to the garden of abode it's cold and alone, hugging, holding hands, kissing, and all sorts of intercourse and cutsy cuddling is just to transfer a feeling of warmth from one scared and alone creature to the next.

when I see snow I'm reminded of love because snow and cold like loneliness and ice-so-lation (it's so cold it can kill you lolz) push creatures to seek warmth and company, like getting closer to a fire.

like a fire love can burn you and seriously "denature" you, you cook and become cooked for life your nature may change you can become a "#$%#^#^4" lolz,
but it's the need of heat and the flowing of blood that drives us closer to the fire.

aren't all you roman-tic "bonding love" hopes and dream built on a bunch of would(wood) any way.
ex I would do anything for .......

someone come up with a better word than roman-tic love.

JavaLatte

Salaam @ fye,

I don't understand what you meant... confused

Today, I think that love is something sweet... http//emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/crazy-monkey/crazy-monkey-emoticon-003.gif?1292792378

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