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We are God

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    servant_of_Ar-Rahman
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    Allah says

    "And who is more truthful in his word than Allah?" (487).

    ?Say He is Allah, the One and Only;
    Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
    He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
    And there is none like unto Him.? (surah 112)

    "He is Allah, there is no god but He, the Knower of the Unseen and the Visible. He is the Most Gracious, Most Merciful. He is Allah, there is no God but He, the King, the Holy One, the Source of Peace, the Keeper of Faith, the Guardian, the Almighty, the Subduer, the Sublime. Glory be to Allah above what they associate with Him. He is Allah, the Creator, the Maker, the Shaper. His are the most beautiful Names. All that is in the heavens and the Earth glorifies Him. He is the Almighty, the Wise" (5922-4).

    "And who is more truthful in his word than Allah?" (487).

    "there is nothing whatever like unto Him, He is the All-hearing, the All-seeing. To Him belongs the keys of the Heavens and the Earth. He enlarges and restricts provisions to whom He wills. Surely He has knowledge of everything" (4211-12).
    "He is Supreme over His servants, and He is the Wise, the All-aware" (618 ).

    "And who is more truthful in his word than Allah?" (487).

    "Allah there is no God but He, the Living, the Everlasting. Slumber does not seize Him, neither sleep; to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and the Earth. Who is there that shall intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they do not encompass anything of His knowledge except what He wills. His throne extends over the heavens and the Earth, the preservation of them does not burden Him; He is the High, the Great" (2255).

    "And who is more truthful in his word than Allah?" (487).

    "Truly it is the revelation of the Lord of the world brought down upon your heart by the Faithful Spirit so that you may be one of the warners, in a clear Arabic tongue" (26192-95).

    "And who is more truthful in his word than Allah?" (487).

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      FreedomStands
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      Everywhere there is the presence of God, and nowhere is there no presence of God.

      God is not separate from I or you - therefore I am God and you are God, we are all God!

      Discuss....

      Hi Jane. You are not God really. You are just a piece of, well you know. No, not a "piece of God", haha I meant the other word, something more than God, it has 4 letters.

      You know you're not God, because you seem incapable of controlling anything in any simple and direct way.

      What you are, whatever at all you consider "you" is "information". God is not "information" you can never be God, and God can never be you. God creates all the information, that means everything you are, but remains distinct from you, because everything can be destroyed and removed yet God is not information, nor can be destroyed (because there would be none to sustain the operation's completion, to God existing to allow the completion of the task).

      These are just some of the many limitations of God.

      It might have been nice if you really were God though, then persons you could let me suck some of your mercy from you, yet you appear rather powerless and weak, ultimately useless to me, unless perhaps you have something I can use?

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        Man_of_Faith
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        With God you can control things, Freedomstands.

        Be safe
        Emanuel

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          FreedomStands
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          With God you can control things, Freedomstands.

          Be safe
          Emanuel

          Yeah, I've experienced lots of cool special power stuff.

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            Farabi
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            I dont read this thread from the beginning. Once I got carried awal by my instinct because I thought I was alive and the sensation was real. My limited mind convince me that I was part of God. Time to time my mind told me that I was God because I was alive. At first, it was a joy, I can felt dophamine released, or any term you used to use f you think that term too technical or outlandish. But I have to face this probem. Who am I? The first year Im still blinded with hardship I get because I naturally positve thinking. But time to time, I faced 2 option, denied the truth, or faced the truth even though it was painful. I chose science. Rather than crazy and denied the fact. Its dangerous in here denying believe over fact in here, but quietly, I chose fact tan anything, no matter what. But of course, I still hadfaith for certain case. but mostly, I prefer science than beeing insahe because defying fact

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              Timotheus
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              Were they created from nothing? Are they the creators?

              Did they create the heavens and the earth? Indeed, they have no certainty.

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                Man_of_Faith
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                Even what they can discover with somewhat empirical science tends to point towards the idea that we are part of a kind of singularity. There are many signs towards this for the one good at contemplation.

                Be safe
                Amenuel

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                  GODsubmitter
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                  Were they created from nothing? Are they the creators?

                  Did they create the heavens and the earth? Indeed, they have no certainty.

                  That's it!
                  cool!

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                    mmmm
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                    4211

                    God made us, we are part of his creation. But although creation came from god we also know from the Qur?an(4211) that God is not like anything.

                    So there must be a separation between God and his creation. Although creation came from God.
                    see also 618

                    Also if we assume we are part of god without the separation of God -- creation.
                    that would mean God = all of creation combined

                    that leaves no space for god. I mean who is running everything then ?
                    And can't God exist outside of his creation ?

                    (I posted this on another thread but I think it is still relevant here)

                    Just when I think I am heading somewhere I read this...now I have to start over (
                    )

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                      hanslan
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                      Salam All

                      I found this on the net

                      http//www.ahmedhulusi.org/en/book/muhammads-allah

                      Is Allah God?

                      Peace.

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                        Man_of_Faith
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                        Allah is 'Who Is Like'.

                        Rabb is God and Rabb is the foundation we live in. And remember the Messianic expression "I am in the Father and the Father in me".

                        Your answer lies within that answer above.

                        Be safe
                        Amenuel

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                          Bender
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                          Allah is 'Who Is Like'.

                          Rabb is God and Rabb is the foundation we live in. And remember the Messianic expression "I am in the Father and the Father in me".

                          Your answer lies within that answer above.

                          Be safe
                          Amenuel

                          Hi Amenuel,

                          I tried hard to understand what you mean but without succes.
                          Can you please explain a bit more what you mean with the red part.
                          The blue part is really a wow to me, probably I am also understanding this wrong, so can you please shed also some more light on this blue part.

                          thanks!!!
                          Bender

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                            reel
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                            Hi Amenuel,

                            I tried hard to understand what you mean but without succes.
                            Can you please explain a bit more what you mean with the red part.
                            The blue part is really a wow to me, probably I am also understanding this wrong, so can you please shed also some more light on this blue part.

                            thanks!!!
                            Bender

                            God is a universal force. Thus, God exists in everything, but this does not mean we are Gods. I have been noticing that some people from other religions get this also. I kept screenshots of two.
                            https//lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3QMAO4fJ_tw/Voyy3v26OtI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/I81TN8XoYXc/s649-Ic42/One%252520God.png
                            https//lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iBj-u33BtqI/VoyzAzMUBDI/AAAAAAAAAGg/tnfW9GakdhQ/s827-Ic42/one%252520god_2.png

                            One of the most interesting discussions I saw at an atheist forum. The Godless members came up with the same kind conclusion. They even figured out that such a God would have the power to know what we would be doing in our future. Pretty Quranic. But later, some ignorant beings ended up diverting their attention by bringing up the human like God found in all corrupted religions.

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                              Bender
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                              God is a universal force. Thus, God exists in everything, but this does not mean we are Gods.

                              Salaam,

                              RED Sorry I can not agree with this. When I die, does a part of God also die?

                              I have been noticing that some people from other religions get this also. I kept screenshots of two.
                              https//lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3QMAO4fJ_tw/Voyy3v26OtI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/I81TN8XoYXc/s649-Ic42/One%252520God.png

                              "Who created God" is in my view a stupid question. If God was created then he would be not God but a creation. God is The Creator not a creature.
                              I think a lot of people tend to think of a God as creature who creates, therefore they ask themselves questions like who created God.

                              https//lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iBj-u33BtqI/VoyzAzMUBDI/AAAAAAAAAGg/tnfW9GakdhQ/s827-Ic42/one%252520god_2.png

                              I can not agree with this. The universe is a creation, Allah is not a creation. He is Allah, if He was the universe then He would be The Universe but He is Allah.
                              And He can vanish The Universe and everything in it with 1 command and He will be still Allah while the universe would be gone and with 1 command He can make any/many universe(s) He likes, He does what He wills, He is Allah.

                              Salaam,
                              Bender

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                                reel
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                                RED Sorry I can not agree with this. When I die, does a part of God also die?

                                Nope, because we die, we are not Gods. He lives on. He is infinity with no beginning and ending.

                                "Who created God" is in my view a stupid question. If God was created then he would be not God but a creation. God is The Creator not a creature.
                                I think a lot of people tend to think of a God as creature who creates, therefore they ask themselves questions like who created God.

                                I know. The guy left the comment for atheists who seem to leave religions after not being able to find a flying super hero in the sky.

                                I can not agree with this. The universe is a creation, Allah is not a creation. He is Allah, if He was the universe then He would be The Universe but He is Allah.
                                And He can vanish The Universe and everything in it with 1 command and He will be still Allah while the universe would be gone and with 1 command He can make any/many universe(s) He likes, He does what He wills, He is Allah.

                                We don't have to agree with everything he said. That piece of God thing is pretty silly. What I was trying to show here is that we pretty much know the concept of God very well. But somehow we get stuck in the mythic concept that God has body parts just like us. All mainstream religions are guilty of thinking this way. Bottom line is that God is everywhere. He is in the universe. He is outside the universe. We are within him.

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                                  imrankhawaja
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                                  with this level of knowledge which we have ,,, its even very difficult to imagine,,,what is the nature of God,,, however we cant be god,,

                                  and whatever we will imagine about God,,, is will just imagination nothinng else,,, and obviously our highest ever imagination will related to the matter and force or energy light,,,whatever we will imagine ,,, its definate itzjust idea ,,,running around created things,,, but he is not like his creation,,,, theres is nothing like him,,,,(112 verse 4) but what is real understanding of God ,, we need to wait for judgement day where our brains will updated to understand ,,,,

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                                    Man_of_Faith
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                                    Hello,

                                    We are part of the consciousness that is God. Every person makes a part of God, although it requires spiritual growth to make any significant portion of it or one is "lifeless" and part of "automation". Yet Rabb is everything in existence so Jesus was right in saying "The Father is greater than I" even though Jesus had a grand share of the Rabb in him. God encompasses everything. We have a part of God in us.

                                    People cannot comprehend that there is a sort of real-time symbiosis between Creator and Creation and thus make a separation of the Creator while He is one and the same at the same time yet each person is a unique character simultaneously, at least those who have made their personal consciousness grow or else they do not really exist even if they might believe so. That is the power of deception.

                                    Be safe
                                    Amenuel

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                                      hawk99
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                                      I've been called a lot of things but never God. nope

                                      Welcome back Bender

                                      peace

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                                        Bender
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                                        I've been called a lot of things but never God. nope

                                        Welcome back Bender

                                        peace

                                        Hi Hawk, thank you handshake

                                        and yes, some sayings go beyond insanity.

                                        salaam Bender

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                                          Farabi
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                                          I was once God, but I had no idea who God was. I never knew, God was father. I was the first creation ever exister. He can make any of you first. But I was the first one. I was so ashamed when I get back to Him.

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