Blasphemy against God

reel

Well,
I have been reading the Quran as part of salaah. The goal is to strengthen my faith in God and also purify myself. I have had a lot of problems in my life and am overall an angry/ungrateful person. However, recently I have accepted Quran only Islam after getting disgusted watching Muslims run around a black cube and their current humiliated position in the world. I am just very ashamed about these thoughts in my head. I do think this is Satan saying these things but I am not sure. I fear I have already offended God and am destined for hell. I searched the Quran for any verse related to this and didn't really see anything related to this. These thoughts only pop up when I am reading the Quran or remembering God. Part of me thinks it is temporary but I am afraid nevertheless.

Thank you for replying. I now understand where you are coming from. You have taken a good step to strengthen your faith in him by reading the Quran. However, it won't go anywhere if you read it without giving importance to understanding. Of course, not everything is so vivid to anyone about what is in the Quran, for our reasoning ability is very limited by the limited knowledge we have. Mankind hasn't progressed much. That's why, we have so many debates here about the verses. Yet try your best to ponder upon what you read. Give importance to critical thinking. Dare to ask questions about them in your mind. This isn't blasphemous at all. In short, instead of reading,study the Quran. This will keep the negative thoughts away because your mind would be completely focused on just the verses. God does not forbid us from recitation, but he emphasizes the importance of understanding the Quran. Notice it in the following verses

Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an, or are there locks upon hearts?4724
a blessed Book which We have revealed to you, , that they might reflect upon its verses and that those of understanding would be reminded.3829
Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah , they would have found within it much contradiction.482
Then have they not reflected over the Qur'an, or has there come to them that which had not come to their forefathers?2368

peace

good_logic

Peace needhelpplz

GOD has made it so easy for us ,whatever we have done in the past. There is no problem

Anyone who commits evil, or wrongs his soul, then implores God for forgiveness, will find God Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Exempted are those who repent, believe, and lead a righteous life. God transforms their sins into credits. God is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
Those who repent and lead a righteous life, God redeems them; a complete redemption.

O you who believe, you shall repent to God a firm repentance. Your Lord will then remit your sins and admit you into gardens with flowing streams.....

..... Your Lord has decreed that mercy is His attribute. Thus, anyone among you who commits a transgression out of ignorance, and repents thereafter and reforms, then He is Forgiving, Most Merciful."

No matter what was done, nothing is beyond redemption

Proclaim "O My servants who exceeded the limits, never despair of God's mercy. For God forgives all sins. He is the Forgiver, Most Merciful.

May GOD bless you and redeem you.
Peace.

Invalid777

Peace needhelpplz

GOD has made it so easy for us ,whatever we have done in the past. There is no problem

Anyone who commits evil, or wrongs his soul, then implores God for forgiveness, will find God Forgiving, Most Merciful.

Exempted are those who repent, believe, and lead a righteous life. God transforms their sins into credits. God is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
Those who repent and lead a righteous life, God redeems them; a complete redemption.

O you who believe, you shall repent to God a firm repentance. Your Lord will then remit your sins and admit you into gardens with flowing streams.....

..... Your Lord has decreed that mercy is His attribute. Thus, anyone among you who commits a transgression out of ignorance, and repents thereafter and reforms, then He is Forgiving, Most Merciful."

No matter what was done, nothing is beyond redemption

Proclaim "O My servants who exceeded the limits, never despair of God's mercy. For God forgives all sins. He is the Forgiver, Most Merciful.

May GOD bless you and redeem you.
Peace.

bravo

Thanks for the quotes gl.

fye

Salaam guys,
I have been a lurker here for a while. Recently I started reading Quran a lot more at Fajr and Isha. However, when I am reading the Quran, I get thoughts about cursing Allah or just bad/evil thoughts in general. I am very afraid as to why this is happening to me. I am ashamed to even write this but I don't know what else to do. I have stopped swearing (before I used to swear a lot) but these thoughts to pop into my head randomly. I say "I seek refuge in Allah from Satan the Accursed' whenever I get these thoughts but am still very ashamed and depressed about them. Please help me!!!

what are you eating? are you eating unlawful meat or pagan meat? (meat offered to another deity besides ALLAH). and are you friends with unbelievers or Christians or jews? (quran says you'll be one of them) to be? what is meant is to exist as or under a catergory. you breathe thinking and behave as what you chemically are (you are what you eat!)
eat unpious meat and you become impious. also taking certain people as a friend or protector makes you what ever group you take them as.

this goes toward those old ben franklin sayings and such a bad apple spoils the bunch or birds of the feather flock together, and more modern your friends maybe rubbing off on you.

your body controls your heatlth your health how you feel and how you feel how you act.

are you just thinking of bad jokes like some blasphemy (which for some reason can make an episode of the simpsons more exciting and entertaining, it's just more unexpected for homer to rip on ALLAH or show a depiction of jesus on family guy)?
just avoid the show and you'll be normal in a while dude.

salaam

HP_TECH

Salaam guys,
I have been a lurker here for a while. Recently I started reading Quran a lot more at Fajr and Isha. However, when I am reading the Quran, I get thoughts about cursing Allah or just bad/evil thoughts in general. I am very afraid as to why this is happening to me. I am ashamed to even write this but I don't know what else to do. I have stopped swearing (before I used to swear a lot) but these thoughts to pop into my head randomly. I say "I seek refuge in Allah from Satan the Accursed' whenever I get these thoughts but am still very ashamed and depressed about them. Please help me!!!

You are not at all alone or unique in your experience.
I've struggled with these thoughts since I was a toddler and they disappeared for a while when a I was on the path as a child. I got lost for a while and these thoughts became subtle when I was converting the same exact thing was happening to me while trying to read the Quran in prayer.
Seek refuge in Allah,
He is your only Helper brother
And try to whisk your mind away from such thoughts
As long as you truly repent and you feel even terrified that you are having these thoughts you are not in a bad position.
Keep praying and do not succumb, keep resisting
Do not give up the fight
The shaytan wishes you would disbelieve
But Allah has created so that you would meet His Mercy

Salaam

Zulf

Peace,

In addition to all else that has been said here by people

Don't be afraid. Don't be afraid of your anger and ungratefulness. Fear will just solidify things.
Instead, accept the weaknesses for what they are. They are habits. Don't label them as bad. Just accept that they are habits that are not helpful. They may be destructive, but don't judge them and accidently judge yourself in the process. You are not your weaknesses. They are just habits. Ask your Rabb to help you purify your mind from destructive thinking and emotional habits. It is hard work, but it can be done. Some things you can easily get rid of, other take much more work. In any case, just notice, observe and accept your condition in a neutral way. Then, seek ways to over come them, or rather, to replace them. Negative things are best cleansed by replacing them by good things that can take their place and over shadow them. Sometimes it's hard to just erase negative habits.

If you have bad feelings in the mind and the body, then just pay attention to them, but don't get afraid of them. Allow them to be and they will eventuall lose power. Running away from something, or ignoring and suppressing something will often make things stick harder.
Observe, notice, allow, and do good counter measures to work away negative things in you.

Fear is our worst enemy.
For those who personify Shaytan, fear is the greatest tool of Shaytan. Don't fall for fear, and don't even fear fear.
For those who think shayatn is something within us, fear hampers progress and is basically an internal mental defence mechanism gone rogue. Fear locks you down. Fear hampers the connection to our Rabb.

Peace

HP_TECH

I should also add that I counter theses thoughts with words by glorifying and praising Allah while these thoughts are occurring!

reel

what are you eating? are you eating unlawful meat or pagan meat? (meat offered to another deity besides ALLAH). and are you friends with unbelievers or Christians or jews? (quran says you'll be one of them) to be? what is meant is to exist as or under a catergory. you breathe thinking and behave as what you chemically are (you are what you eat!)
eat unpious meat and you become impious. also taking certain people as a friend or protector makes you what ever group you take them as.

this goes toward those old ben franklin sayings and such a bad apple spoils the bunch or birds of the feather flock together, and more modern your friends maybe rubbing off on you.

your body controls your heatlth your health how you feel and how you feel how you act.

are you just thinking of bad jokes like some blasphemy (which for some reason can make an episode of the simpsons more exciting and entertaining, it's just more unexpected for homer to rip on ALLAH or show a depiction of jesus on family guy)?
just avoid the show and you'll be normal in a while dude.

salaam

Peace my brother,
Translation of verse 5 51 has some problems.

Man_of_Faith

Fear is our worst enemy.
For those who personify Shaytan, fear is the greatest tool of Shaytan. Don't fall for fear, and don't even fear fear.

Fear is basically part of the instinct (Satan). When your mind is materialistic/hedonistic then fear may appear.

NielsJacob

Peace fye

are you friends with unbelievers or Christians or jews? (quran says you'll be one of them)

Can you please specify that understanding.
Because its not the one I have. So I just want to hear how you come to such conclusion.

HP_TECH

... and are you friends with unbelievers or Christians or jews? (quran says you'll be one of them) to be? what is meant is to exist as or under a catergory.
also taking certain people as a friend or protector makes you what ever group you take them as.

salaam

For a better understanding of what you are referring to you should check out the discussion in this link http//www.lucidean.com/forum/viewtopic.php?

NielsJacob

Peace

For a better understanding of what you are referring to you should check out the discussion in this link http//www.lucidean.com/forum/viewtopic.php?

I get this when I click
The requested topic does not exist.

HP_TECH

For a better understanding of what you are referring to you should check out the discussion in this link

http//www.lucidean.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=122

NielsJacob

Peace HP-TEC

I look for better understanding of 551 and I found this

The correct translation of the verse in Surat Al-Ma?idah is (Al-Ma'dah 5 51)

I can only rely on others interpretion since I dont understand arabic.

HP_TECH

Peace HP-TEC

I look for better understanding of 551 and I found this

The correct translation of the verse in Surat Al-Ma?idah is (Al-Ma'dah 5 51)

I can only rely on others interpretion since I dont understand arabic.

Peace NielsJacob,

You do not have to rely on translations you can use word for word translations which give you the opportunity to check each words meaning and concordance in Quranic text.

For example corpusquran.com word for word web translation
http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp

Then you can check each word's roots with project root list
http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm

From project root list you can also click on links for specific roots which send you to an arabic almanac
with arabic dictionaries and lexicons like Lane's Lexicon, Hans Wehr and etcetera.
Here is a direct link to the Arabic Almanac
http//ejtaal.net/aa/#hw4=63,ll=182,ls=5,la=199,sg=121,ha=38,pr=22,vi=70,mgf=85,mr=61,mn=53,aan=59,kz=88,uqq=22,ulq=351,uqa=46,uqw=148,umr=87,ums=66,umj=57,bdw=67,amr=44,asb=42,auh=149,dhq=42,mht=30,msb=21,tla=28,amj=46,ens=1,mis=100

But it is better to know which word/root you are interested in from corpus and then check its root on project root list, then click on the link for the root on project root list and it will show you the meaning from many different lexicons and dictionaries which you can compare and contrast.

Also for better understanding of the topic I posted that link which has a 4 page correspondence between individuals who debated about the issue. I know it is kind of bothersome but there is no proper short answer. You should read the full four page correspondence; if you navigate on that forum and check the third to last page of that topic you will get a better sense.

I could in short though just remind that the Quran is a book, you do not look at one verse and expect to completely understand all pertaining such topic. You have to consider all the other verses related. And for 551 there is an innumerable amount of verses related to nasara("Christians&quot and how the believers should treat them.

In the correspondence nasara was better clarified as well as People of the Book and also important verses clarifying the topic were demonstrated.

Again I do recommend you read the full correspondence, but here is the link to the last most important page of the thread
http//www.lucidean.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=122&start=30

Please take a look at it

Citing the Quran, taking it as a whole and examining related verses we get a better picture of the topic

607 Perhaps God will grant compassion between you and those you consider enemies; and God is Capable. And God is Forgiving, Merciful.
608 God does not prohibit you from those who have not fought you because of your system, nor drove you out of your homes, that you deal kindly and equitably with them. For God loves the equitable.
609 But God does prohibit you regarding those who fought you because of your system, and drove you out of your homes, and helped to drive you out. You shall not ally with them. Those who ally with them, then such are the transgressors.

NielsJacob

Peace HP_TEC

You do not have to rely on translations you can use word for word translations which give you the opportunity to check each words meaning and concordance in Quranic text.

For example corpusquran.com word for word web translation
http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp

Thanks that seemed like a good idea.

I checked for the word awliya (Allied/friend/patron). And not Nasara even though I think the meaning of that word/name bear a deeper meaning,

I can see that friend really dont look like the best translation. The word that come up is more like protector/allies/guardians.

HP_TECH

Peace HP_TEC

Thanks that seemed like a good idea.

I checked for the word awliya (Allied/friend/patron). And not Nasara even though I think the meaning of that word/name bear a deeper meaning,

I can see that friend really dont look like the best translation. The word that come up is more like protector/allies/guardians.

That's great that you found it useful.
I never thought of taking a better look at that word before. That is a great idea.
Exactly guardian/ally/protector is someone you put trust in or rely on.
We should also keep in mind that they were in a time of military conflict per se, so it is clearly not advisable to secretly ally with the very people who are persecuting you and fighting you.
Another thing to consider is the people amongst those groups were not all the same 375 explains this in terms of trust

IN THE NAME OF THE GOD THE MOST GRACIOUS THE MOST MERCIFUL
And among the People of the Book is he who, if you entrust him with a great amount of wealth, he will return it to you.
And among them is he who, if you entrust him with a single coin, he will not return it to you unless you constantly stand demanding (it). That is because they say, ?There is no blame upon us concerning the unlettered people.? And they speak a lie about Allah while they know.

NielsJacob

Peace HP_TEC

That's great that you found it useful.
I never thought of taking a better look at that word before. That is a great idea.
Exactly guardian/ally/protector is someone you put trust in or rely on.
We should also keep in mind that they were in a time of military conflict per se, so it is clearly not advisable to secretly ally with the very people who are persecuting you and fighting you.
Another thing to consider is the people amongst those groups were not all the same 375 explains this in terms of trust

Yes you are right.
And also we know that some Christians are going to Heaven. (2.62 and 5.69)

But it came to my mind that it mentioned in my translation (danish) many times that you shouldn?t take any other friend than God. Like in 25.18. But now I see that not many use the translation friend. (But some do). And it doesn?t make sence.
They will say Glory be to You. It did not become us (even) to take friends other than You (let alone asking them to worship othersbe sides You). But, (O Lord,) You bestowed upon them and their fathers worldly riches to such an extent that they forgot (even) Your remembrance. And these were but the (doomed) people to be destroyed.

But here again is it the same word awliya (Allied/friend/patron)
So in both cases the word make better sence in the meaning protector. And the jewish/christians are not different form any other human being. Since no-one than God should be your protector/Patron/Lord.

Salam

NielsJacob

Or check the verse 29.41.
Where we also se the word/meaning used

The example of those who take allies(awliya) besides God is like the spider how it makes a home; and the weakest home is the home of the spider, if only they knew.

HP_TECH

Peace HP_TEC

Yes you are right.
And also we know that some Christians are going to Heaven. (2.62 and 5.69)

But it came to my mind that it mentioned in my translation (danish) many times that you shouldn?t take any other friend than God. Like in 25.18. But now I see that not many use the translation friend. (But some do). And it doesn?t make sence.
They will say ?Glory be to You. It did not become us (even) to take friends other than You (let alone asking them to worship othersbe sides You). But, (O Lord,) You bestowed upon them and their fathers worldly riches to such an extent that they forgot (even) Your remembrance. And these were but the (doomed) people to be destroyed.?

But here again is it the same word awliya (Allied/friend/patron)
So in both cases the word make better sence in the meaning protector. And the jewish/christians are not different form any other human being. Since no-one than God should be your protector/Patron/Lord.

Salam

It depends by who you are referring by Jews and Christians
I wouldn't consider today Jews and Christians as the hadu and nasara.
Do you think that any people that reject God's message of The Quran and His warner, the last prophet can go to Heaven?
And especially those who associate partners with God and have said an abomination about Allah?
Claiming that He has begotten a son?
No obviously this refers to the hadu and nasara of ancient before the Quran was revealed.
If the hadu and nasara of the time of Muhammad would have remained firm on the Taurat and the Injeel they would recognize the truth in the Quran and their messenger and some did and believed.

4610 Say ?Do you see that if it were from God, and you rejected it, and a witness from the Children of Israel bore witness to its similarity, and he has believed, while you have turned arrogant? Surely, God does not guide the wicked people.?

17107 Say ?Believe in it or do not believe in it. Those who have been given the knowledge before it, when it is recited to them, they fall to their chins prostrating.?
17108 And they say ?Praise be to our Lord. Truly, the promise of our Lord was fulfilled.?
17109 And they fall upon their chins crying, and it increases them in humility.

Ultimately you should be equitable with all people, but today's Christians are by no means going to Heaven unless they remain firm on their scripture in which they are concerning it disquieting in doubt; recognize and understand true monotheism and accept the din and worship/serve Allah alone being sincere to Him in the system.
Same for those who call themselves hadu.

Peace