Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Users
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Free Minds Forum Icon
  1. Home
  2. General Issues / Questions
  3. General Issues / Questions
  4. Religion in and of itself

Religion in and of itself

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Issues / Questions
7 Posts 5 Posters 76 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • S Offline
    S Offline
    Study
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    I guess you could call this topic the origin of religion.
    And when I say religion, I don't really mean religion. Bear with me, this is going to be rather complex.
    First of, let me present to you "my" understanding of reality. Based upon that you may get a better understanding of what I'm trying to get at.

    We've got earth, humandkind starts evolving, or "put" on earth (creationism), whatever you prefer, since it's not really relevant.
    God gives these humans "signs" (through prophets?) on how to live life. Be good, share, help each other, etc.
    Humans take these "signs" and create polytheism Firegod, Windgod, Thundergod. etc.
    Inbetween these "religions" there are still many signs from God.
    This happens all over the world.
    Greek Gods vs Indian Gods vs Roman Gods.
    All of them were given signs from God and out of these signs they created religions.

    The Pharaoh's people as well, were given signs, they created their own religion.
    Moses corrects the religion (as well as oppression).

    Jews start creating rules etc, religion is born again.
    Jesus is send to correct them.

    Religion is born again, instrumentalized through white Jesus painting (identification) and disenfranchisement through churches.

    In another part of the world we have Mohammed send to polytheists, they are corrected in their beliefs as well.
    And then they start inventing rules and creating another religion brickwall

    I guess what I'm trying to get at is, that there is no such thing as religion. If God is truly real. Then what's the point of speaking of religion? Is religion not something akin to nationalism? Or like a sportsclub? Creating a "we" and "them" feeling?
    In my opinion, belief is something that should be personal; Individual. There shouldn't be a person who tells others what is wrong and what is not. Sure, communicate with one another, but don't start creating groups/cliques and identifying yourselfs as "Name of religion/sect".
    Or worse, militant atheists throwing punches at people for believing in God(s) and identifying them as "religious" and creating "mass identities(religion)".

    The biggest problem I've got with terminologies like religion is that it leads into group/mass thinking, rendering it's "believers" impotent when it comes to self-critic. = Blind faith.

    Weird topic, I'm aware of that ignore
    I'd like to hear opinions on this though, do you approve, oppose? I'm interested.
    Sorry if anyone is offended, these are merely my opinions &

    Edit Something that would interest me. Where in the Quran does it say that the "religion" that "muslims" follow is the "Islam"? If anyone knows, I'd appreciate if you'd share.
    I can't find anything like that anywhere. And to my understanding, the idea of "Islam" as a religion was invented many many years after the death of the Prophet. Did the prophet not speak of there being one God and none other. When did he ever speak of "Islam" as we know it today?

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • G Offline
      G Offline
      good_logic
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Peace study.

      Also according to my study, this is religion

      http//www.total-loyalty-to-god-alone.co.uk/website-pages/what-is-the-true-religion/

      GOD bless you.
      Peace.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • S Offline
        S Offline
        Study
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Peace study.

        Also according to my study, this is religion

        http//www.total-loyalty-to-god-alone.co.uk/website-pages/what-is-the-true-religion/

        GOD bless you.
        Peace.

        Interesting website, thanks for sharing, will take a look at it.
        Seems like you've had answered many of the questions which I had listed here.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • J Offline
          J Offline
          Jafar
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          You might find this "History of Islam Religion" thread interesting...
          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607768.0

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • M Offline
            M Offline
            Man_of_Faith
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            Hello Study,

            Quran does not refer to Islam as a label but descriptively as like an adjective. You can be muslim not "a muslim". And the word itself means "sound, and which in itself could be seen as "being sane".

            The word Salam from which "E slam" (Islam) is derived has no meaning of submission as indicated by some people. If you say Salam as a greeting to someone you basically say "Be well" and is similar to the English archaic "hail" from Germanic "hel" which means "whole", i.e. you wish someone to be healthy and the word Salam means exactly the same albeit in Semitic origin languages.

            You can here add 1 + 1 and you see that if you are 'islam' it means you are healthy (whole) rather than broken/shattered.

            Be safe
            Amenuel

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • S Offline
              S Offline
              Study
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              You might find this "History of Islam Religion" thread interesting...
              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607768.0

              Thanks, I'll be surfing there. ;D

              Hello Study,

              Quran does not refer to Islam as a label but descriptively as like an adjective. You can be muslim not "a muslim". And the word itself means "sound, and which in itself could be seen as "being sane".

              The word Salam from which "E slam" (Islam) is derived has no meaning of submission as indicated by some people. If you say Salam as a greeting to someone you basically say "Be well" and is similar to the English archaic "hail" from Germanic "hel" which means "whole", i.e. you wish someone to be healthy and the word Salam means exactly the same albeit in Semitic origin languages.

              You can here add 1 + 1 and you see that if you are 'islam' it means you are healthy (whole) rather than broken/shattered.

              Be safe
              Amenuel

              This is definitely an interesting point of view.
              That totally supports my understanding of these words having been "instrumentalized" as a means of controlling society, even if not intentionally, it resulted in a differentiation of oneself from others.

              I actually live in Germany, wishing someone "Heil" means the same as wishing them wholeness/health
              It was probably used as a greeting, and nowadays in Germany no one uses it because of the "Heil Hitler" salute.

              May we all stay Islam
              Be well (I'll be using that from now on ;D)

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • F Offline
                F Offline
                fye
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                just rules, follow them. or maybe there's more to it?

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                Reply
                • Reply as topic
                Log in to reply
                • Oldest to Newest
                • Newest to Oldest
                • Most Votes


                • Login

                • Don't have an account? Register

                • Login or register to search.
                • First post
                  Last post
                0
                • Categories
                • Recent
                • Users