Ma means mother in Quran?
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ALLH transcends that which you're trying to impute unto His Absolutness.
Your father () andor mother (ـ are mortal Adamites.
Our Father (with a capital F) is Adem, not G-D !The Divine neither begets, nor adopts sons/daughters.
Know thy place.
I was talking about how 'ma' equals mother. Not my words but the qurans words.
Anyway what's up with the blocking me on the forum.
I thought this is a forum of Free minds?
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Hello,
does not mean mother. You have to add an alif to make it mother which morphologically means "Be From", i.e. . The other suggestion means 'no' in Arabic as the following alif after miim negates the miim. and you have your root word for mother and another definition is 'source' which goes well with my morphological explanation of "Be From".
"Ummah" comes from the same root and speaks of your originating people, for example, in your tribe, relatives, and it can probably be not only literally implied too.
Wellness to you
Amenuel -
That is because I researched that in aramaic (where arabic evolved from) 'ama', 'ma' etc.. equals mother! That's because in 2255 and various oher verses... in arabic does not make sense if the verse says 'ma' as 'what'.
Also in sanskrit mother is translated as 'Alla'. Strange phenomenon.
Hi welcome to the forum handshake
So you think means "mother in the heaven and mother in the earth"?
If so, can you explain how this makes more sense to you? -
Hi welcome to the forum handshake
So you think means "mother in the heaven and mother in the earth"?
If so, can you explain how this makes more sense to you?For example in the beginning of verse 2284 it says . In translation that will be (literally) "Allah what in heavens and what in earth...." That does not make sense if 'ma' means 'what'. But since the majority of the world languages use 'ma' as mother. I simply translated the beginning of the verse as "Allah mother in heavens and mother in earth....". This does not mean Allah has a partner, as Mary also did not have a partner when conceiving Jesus (pbuh). Also it could be a spiritual aspect of God. And not physical. As some things in the Quran has metphorical meanings. Allah knows best ofcourse
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For example in the beginning of verse 2284 it says . In translation that will be (literally) "Allah what in heavens and what in earth...." That does not make sense if 'ma' means 'what'.
Hi,
the red word is read like this Li-Llah
I think the "Li" means something like "to".
Thus something like this "To Allah belongs what is in samaa and what is in ard"But since the majority of the world languages use 'ma' as mother. I simply translated the beginning of the verse as "Allah mother in heavens and mother in earth....". This does not mean Allah has a partner, as Mary also did not have a partner when conceiving Jesus (pbuh). Also it could be a spiritual aspect of God. And not physical. As some things in the Quran has metphorical meanings. Allah knows best ofcourse
Blue Interesting. Do you think Allah can be spiritual and physical?
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Hi,
the red word is read like this Li-Llah
I think the "Li" means something like "to".
Thus something like this "To Allah belongs what is in samaa and what is in ard"
Blue Interesting. Do you think Allah can be spiritual and physical?So you reckon "Li" means "to" and "Lah" means God, right?
Explain 1068 .
I think Allah could have physical and spiritual attributes. I mean there's nothing that I have read of the Quran to suggest otherwise.
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So you reckon "Li" means "to" and "Lah" means God, right?
Explain 1068 .
Hi,
I think the red word is also a comibination of 2 expressions. La-Hu
I think it means something like To Him...I think Allah could have physical and spiritual attributes. I mean there's nothing that I have read of the Quran to suggest otherwise.
Can you give an example from the quran where you understood that He has physical attributes and an example where He has spiritual attributes?
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Hi,
I think the red word is also a comibination of 2 expressions. La-Hu
I think it means something like To Him...
Can you give an example from the quran where you understood that He has physical attributes and an example where He has spiritual attributes?That's the point, I don' t know of any verse if Allah is just physical or spiritual. It's just my opinion that Allah can be both. But I do know that (according to a hadith that is sahih bukahri) that a womb has a physical connection to Allah.
Sahih Bukhari, Book 65, Hadith 4879
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The Prophet (ﷺ said, "Allah created His creation, and when He was done with it, the womb, got up and caught hold of the Merciful's loin (or loincloth?) Allah said, "What is the matter?' On that, it said, 'I seek refuge with you from those who sever the ties of Kith and kin.' On that Allah said, 'Will you be satisfied if I bestow My favors on him who keeps your ties, and withhold My favors from him who severs your ties?' On that it said, 'Yes, O my Lord!' Then Allah said, 'That is for you.' " Abu Huraira added If you wish, you can recite "Would you then if you were given the authority. do mischief in the land and sever your ties of kinship. (47. 22)Allah knows best!
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That's the point, I don' t know of any verse if Allah is just physical or spiritual. It's just my opinion that Allah can be both. But I do know that (according to a hadith that is sahih bukahri) that a womb has a physical connection to Allah.
Sahih Bukhari, Book 65, Hadith 4879
" . . . . ". { }
The Prophet (ﷺ said, "Allah created His creation, and when He was done with it, the womb, got up and caught hold of the Merciful's loin (or loincloth?) Allah said, "What is the matter?' On that, it said, 'I seek refuge with you from those who sever the ties of Kith and kin.' On that Allah said, 'Will you be satisfied if I bestow My favors on him who keeps your ties, and withhold My favors from him who severs your ties?' On that it said, 'Yes, O my Lord!' Then Allah said, 'That is for you.' " Abu Huraira added If you wish, you can recite "Would you then if you were given the authority. do mischief in the land and sever your ties of kinship. (47. 22)Allah knows best!
Hi,
Ok thank you for clarification.
I think Allah has no physical or spiritual "attributes", sounds weird to me. -
Yeh, I'm not very educated. Just researching the Quran through the internet. That's why I have some writing problems. Sorry!
I am also not very educated, but I think that is not important.
I think it's more important and more wise to keep on researching then to be very educated and stay still.
Or maybe I am just saying this to comfort myself -
I am also not very educated, but I think that is not important.
I think it's more important and more wise to keep on researching then to be very educated and stay still.
Or maybe I am just saying this to comfort myselfWell I hope your research goes well. And please do inform of anything that is enlightening of this religion. Cheers peace
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For example in the beginning of verse 2284 it says . In translation that will be (literally) "Allah what in heavens and what in earth...." That does not make sense if 'ma' means 'what'. But since the majority of the world languages use 'ma' as mother. I simply translated the beginning of the verse as "Allah mother in heavens and mother in earth...."
Peace, use cross-reference ...
2284 to god what in the heavens and what in the earth and if disclose ye of what in yourselves or conceal ye it shall call to account you in it the god so shall forgive to whom wills and punishes whom wills and the god upon each thing supreme
3129 and to god what in the heavens and what in the earth forgives to whom wills and punishes whom wills and the god forgiver merciful
4171 O individuals the book not commit excess dual in creed yours and not thou say ye of on/about the god except the truth only the messiah Isa son Maryam messenger the god and word his conveyed it to Maryam and spirit from it so believe ye of in the god and messengers his and not thou say ye of trio that cease ye of best of for you only the god deity one majesty his that being to him offspring to him what in the heavens and what in the earth and sufficient in the god agent of
141 alif lam ra book have descended we it to you that thou bring out the humankind from the darkness to the light by permission lord theirs to path the mighty the praiseworthy 142 the god the one to him what in the heavens and what in the earth and woe to the skeptics from punishment severe
587 did not see that the god knows what in the heavens and what in the earth not it being from secret counsel trio except he fourth theirs and not quintet except he sixth theirs and not lowest from such and not more except he with them where what be they of furthermore shall inform them in what did they of day the resurrection surely the god in every thing knower
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Concerning the relationship between the wombs and God, bear in mind inthe Qur'an
4.1.
O mankind! reverence your Guardian-Lord, who created you from a single person, created, of like nature, His mate, and from them twain scattered (like seeds) countless men and women;- reverence (ittaqw) Allah, about whom you ask, and the wombs for Allah ever watches over you. (1)
And bear in mind the Arabic word raHim (womb) plural arHam
The word raHim is constituted from the same root as raHma (mercy) and as raHmaan and raHiim, the names of Good which come at the begining of every sura (except one) in the Qur'an and that in the text itself come up all the time.
So without any need for "maa" being made into anything other than the known meaning, there is a manifest connection between God and the wombs.
To wit, this time in 4.1. where God asks us to "ittaqw" Him and "al arham" is the only one in the whole of the Qur'an where the Qur'an says to "ittaqw" something else with Him.
We should bear in mind those things because they speak very deeply to our identity and to our destiny of return to Him.
Salaam
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Concerning the relationship between the wombs and God, bear in mind inthe Qur'an
4.1.
O mankind! reverence your Guardian-Lord, who created you from a single person, created, of like nature, His mate, and from them twain scattered (like seeds) countless men and women;- reverence (ittaqw) Allah, about whom you ask, and the wombs for Allah ever watches over you. (1)
= heed ye = be ye heedful/mindful of
And bear in mind the Arabic word raHim (womb) plural arHam
The word raHim is constituted from the same root as raHma (mercy) and as raHmaan and raHiim, the names of Good which come at the begining of every sura (except one) in the Qur'an and that in the text itself come up all the time.
So without any need for "maa" being made into anything other than the known meaning, there is a manifest connection between God and the wombs.
To wit, this time in 4.1. where God asks us to "ittaqw" Him and "al arham" is the only one in the whole of the Qur'an where the Qur'an says to "ittaqw" something else with Him.
We should bear in mind those things because they speak very deeply to our identity and to our destiny of return to Him.
here denotes the ties of blood (ie. Uterine kinship)
Be ye mindful of your kin.
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Found a video showing fish having the name 'ma allah' or 'ba allah' check for yourselves
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2hva5Bjeag
update; just checked the whole quran (using qurancode software) if there is 'ba allah' or even 'ya allah' together or next to each other and the result is zero. But there is only 'Ma Allah'. I am gobsmacked! confused
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alif meem = mother
alif = an oxes head, denoting stength etc.
meem = water, denoting fluidity, motion, emotion, understanding etc.alif+meem = strong water
maybe hinting at childbirth, prehaps also as in what bonds a family together, strong/hard/thick water as in glue, prehaps a strong understanding/emotion as water is often assosciated with
God knows best, and i only have a limited understanding, one which may or may not be correct
in terms of 'ma' in the quran, i dont see how you can say it does not make sense in that verse?? 'what is the heavens and the earth'
of course, ma has various forms, one of which is negating. however i dont think this is the case here, as in saying 'nothing is (comparible) to him in the heavens and the earth' or 'he is not in the heavens and the earth' because, in my understanding then it would be 'ma lahu' not 'lahu ma'. but this is only my observation, and what i (hope to be) recalling correctly. i am by no means wise when it comes to arabic.
Peace
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'Amm' means "be from" literally. It is a word used to say mother, usually with an attached suffix indicating whose mother (in Quran's corpus). Same root can also be used to talk about someone's kinship or group identity (e.g. ummah).
Ma (ا means 'no' in Arabic.
Be well
Amenuel