To 'The Nabi' n all those who believe miracles in Quran r...
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But Khi,
why do we have to take that literally? for what purpose? Will we behave better?
I think the lessons contained in those examples still work if we take them as allegories and at the same time we won't be immersed in contraditions between what we experience everyday and events that nobody has witnessed or can't be demonstrated. -
Khi- Salam. Yes this is wht the world is, a Matrix controlled by GOD n an illusion created by Him 2 test us. There is no reality but GOD. It is a scientifically established fact tht the world we see is nothing but an image as formed in our brain. !
I LOVE this statement and perspective, idmkhizar. (Of course, this is because this idea is also my current understanding of Reality.)
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But Khi,
why do we have to take that literally? for what purpose? Will we behave better?
I think the lessons contained in those examples still work if we take them as allegories and at the same time we won't be immersed in contraditions between what we experience everyday and events that nobody has witnessed or can't be demonstrated.Khi- Yes i think we will coz there r also laws in the Quran which r 2 carry out. If we take all these allegorical then wht is the use of such laws n rules given by GOD. N as i said it wld discredit Mary's character who the Quran says was a chaste character if we dont take the miracle literally. Also there is NO CONTRADICTION 4 a miracle is just tht a MIRACLE n NOT ordinary everyday life experience. Besides experiments were conducted on mice where they were able to manipulate genes in such a way tht the female mouse gave birth 2 a mouse without male intervention
http//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3643847.stm
If human scientists were able 2 manipulate the genes of female mice in such a way tht they gave birth cant our Creator do the same in humans?
GOD Bless! -
Salam khizar, all,
It is a scientifically established fact tht the world we see is nothing but an image as formed in our brain. We can never reach the original.
I completly agree with you. What we believes reality is only illusion. The temporary laws of this temporay life and the eternal laws of the eternal life (the Hearafter) are two distincts things.
I read tht latest research by him in the German PM magazine where one quantum particle followed the other always although it was not necessary 2 do so at all. It seemed as they posessed intelligence.
I have read about it in other books, it's fantastic )
If human scientists were able 2 manipulate the genes of female mice in such a way tht they gave birth cant our Creator do the same in humans?
GOD Bless!How simple but difficult to understand )
Personnaly I don't consider the birth of Isa as a miracle but a SIGN like the birth of Kagua (mice) and Dolly (ewe).
The female possesses genetic equipment necessary to give birth to another individual. She is created from the same ENERGY (rooh) than the male (3128 ) and this energy which I call as the eternal unity in the creatures has no gender. What we qualify as female and male are only matter and originated from our perception of this temporary world.We cannot claim that we know or we will know all the God's laws
"the knowledge you were given was but very little"
- And if all the trees on Earth were made into pens, and the ocean were supplied by seven more oceans, the words of God would not run out. God is Noble, Wise.
- Your creation and your resurrection is all as one breath. God is Hearer, Seer.
Every person tastes death, then you receive your recompense on the Day of Resurrection. Whoever misses Hell, barely, and makes it to Paradise, has attained a great triumph. The life of this world is no more than an ILLUSION.
He(the devil) promises them and entices them; what the devil promises is no more than an ILLUSION.
The life of this world is no more than ILLUSION and vanity, while the abode of the Hereafter is far better for the righteous. Do you not understand?!
Know that this worldly life is no more than play and games, and boasting among you, and hoarding of money and children. It is like abundant rain that produces plants and pleases the disbelievers. But then the plants turn into useless hay, and are blown away by the wind. In the Hereafter there is either severe retribution, or forgiveness from GOD and approval. This worldly life is no more than a temporary ILLUSION.May I add this verse
- They only know the outside appearance of the worldly life; and regarding the Hereafter, they are ignorant.
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Peace all,
Khizar is quite correct regarding the illusion of the universe - this is a concept which people who believe in God alone should become familiar with.
Regards.
But if the universe is an illusion, does that make you only an illusion too?
I'm always confused by this kind of understanding. I'm reading the online version of 'The Message' right now and has an Arabic copy of the Qur'an opened beside the keyboard. Are they only illusions in my head too?
If the universe is an illusion, is the Qur'an an illusion too?
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But if the universe is an illusion, does that make you only an illusion too?
Khi- Yes exactly ur body is part of tht illusion. It is an image formed in ur brain n the physcal brain as we see it is also part of tht illusion. All the senses r formed in our brain. We can never reach the outside world. If we were 2 stimulate the brain in a similar manner without any light touching our eyes wee wld see pics, hear snd , etc. Dreams r a perfect example. Light never enters our brain. Yet we see a colorfrul n lighted world. Think abt tht.
I'm always confused by this kind of understanding. I'm reading the online version of 'The Message' right now and has an Arabic copy of the Qur'an opened beside the keyboard. Are they only illusions in my head too?
If the universe is an illusion, is the Qur'an an illusion too?
Khi- Yes exactly everything is an illusion created n controlled by GOD at every instant. Think of this world as a matrix controlled by GOD. GOD Bless!
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Peace AB, all,
But if the universe is an illusion, does that make you only an illusion too?
This is the outside appearance of the worldly life which is an illusion and depends on our perception but the ENERGY which is blown into us is eternal and submitted to the God's laws; eternal laws.
We ignore the eternal worl wich is controlled by eternal laws. -
Hi idmkhizar,
If human scientists were able 2 manipulate the genes of female mice in such a way tht they gave birth cant our Creator do the same in humans?
yes, of course the Creator can. I was not talking about the power of God but about the unknown existence of miracles.
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Hi idmkhizar,
If human scientists were able 2 manipulate the genes of female mice in such a way tht they gave birth cant our Creator do the same in humans?
yes, of course the Creator can. I was not talking about the power of God but about the unknown existence of miracles.
Khi- Ok then but they r made known through Quran n we shld believe in them- GOD Bless!