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DO SEX TO YOUR WOMAN AS YOU WISH?

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    wrkmmn
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    DO SEX TO YOUR WOMAN AS YOU WISH?

    All translators that I know translate 2223 as ? your women are your tilth, so go to your tilth as you wish?. Yeah, that?s what the perverted ones wish.

    Here I present my literal translation. You will find that while sect interpreters don?t corrupt much the meaning of words, they corrupt the tense.
    note when I attached the text here the Arabic text kept switching order, but the rest is ok, read translation of each word from right to left.

    2222

    adhy huwa qul al-mahyd ?ani wa-yasalwnka
    affliction/painful condition it(he) say the menstruation about and they are asking you

    taqrabwhun wa-la al-mahyd fy al-nisa fa-a?tazilwa
    you shall approach them and not the menstruation in the women then you shall keep away

    min fa-atwhun tataharn fa-ida yataharn haty
    from then bring them they have cleaned then when they are cleaning while

    altawabyn yuhib Allah ina Allah amarakum hayth
    the returning-ones He likes God verily God commands you where

    al-mutataharyn wa-yuhib
    the clean-ones and He likes
    2223

    shytum any harthakum fa-atwa likum harth nisawkum
    you have wished as your tilth then bring for you tilth your women

    wa-a?limwa Allah wa-ataqwa li-anfusikum wa-qadamwa
    and you shall know God and you shall fear for your souls and you shall put forward

    al-mwminyn Wa-bashar mulaqwhu anakum
    the believers and good news to those who meet Him that you

    As the perverted can now see, there is no such thing as ?sex as you wish? in the Quran. What the verses say is When your woman has cleaned bring her from where Allah commands you, bring your tilth as you have wished.
    Also, the words ?you shall put forward for your souls? seem to be and exhortation to obedience.
    8923And on that Day hell will be brought ; on that Day man will remember but what will that remembrance avail him? (24) He will say, "Oh, would that I had put forward for my life !"
    (6919) Now as for him whose record shall be placed in his right hand, he will exclaim "Come you all!" Read this my record! (6920) Behold, I did know that I would have to face my account! 6921 And so he will find himself in a happy state of life, (22) in a lofty paradise, (23) with its fruits within easy reach. (24) "Eat and drink with good cheer in return for all that you have sent ahead in days gone by!"

    As for the perverted who twist the word of God following their desires.
    3932 And who could be more wicked than he who invents lies about God, and gives the lie to the truth as soon as it has been placed before him? Is not hell the abode for all who deny the truth?

    Conjecturers show evidence

    May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.

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      HP_TECH
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      I do not get what the perverted people are implying?
      Like what exactly are you arguing against?
      Is it in relation to "positions" or forcing spouse to have sex whenever one wishes? O both?
      Sorry for getting graphic just trying to understand.

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        wrkmmn
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        Peace hp-tech

        Is it in relation to "positions" or forcing spouse to have sex whenever one wishes? O both?

        there is a righteous way, and a perverted way, for everything.

        Read the verses of your lord, read them until you are satisfied; pray God for understanding.

        May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.

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          The_Guided_One
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          If your woman want to get slapped or tied, is this really so bad? Except anal sex i do not think in bed there can be something wrong.

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            HP_TECH
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            If your woman want to get slapped or tied, is this really so bad? Except anal sex i do not think in bed there can be something wrong.

            hypno wow

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              The_Guided_One
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              hypno wow

              Selam brother,

              I will explain my post. Many Muslim girls have sex before they get married and because they want to stay virgin they do anal sex. So as i said If your woman want to be slapped or she likes when you pull her hair it is not bad as it is bad to have anal sex. And God doey not care what we do in bed. I rather have a woman who wants to be slapped in bed than a woman who had anal sex. First i did not want to respond, but i had to, or else people would see me as crazy.

              Peace

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                Comrox
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                Selam brother,

                I will explain my post. Many Muslim girls have sex before they get married and because they want to stay virgin they do anal sex. So as i said If your woman want to be slapped or she likes when you pull her hair it is not bad as it is bad to have anal sex. And God doey not care what we do in bed. I rather have a woman who wants to be slapped in bed than a woman who had anal sex. First i did not want to respond, but i had to, or else people would see me as crazy.

                Peace

                I wouldn't have thought you were crazy brother, don't worry.

                It all comes down to preference... Everyone, both men and women, have different sexual preferences.

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                  Man_of_Faith
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                  I wonder how common it is that a woman wishes to be slapped during sex.

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                    Comrox
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                    I wonder how common it is that a woman wishes to be slapped during sex.

                    I love how causal that was said, haha.

                    I just discovered a journalist by the name of Lodro Rinzler who asked random people on the streets, at bars, coffee shops, restaurants, etc., about their sexual preferences, and then wrote an article about how common BDSM is. Here's a small portion of the article

                    Most people I talked to seemed, at some point or another, to have tried something a little "naughty." And according to the research, a percentage of the population is engaging in genuine BDSM activity regularly. There are surprisingly few studies on this topic, but a 1990 Kinsey Institute report states that 5 to 10 percent of the U.S. population engages in sadomasochism at least an occasional basis. Around 11 percent of men and 17 percent of women reported trying bondage. And a 2005 survey conducted by Durex reports that 36 percent of adults in the United States use masks, blindfolds, and bondage tools during sex, compared to 20 percent worldwide.

                    But obviously, thanks to the aforementioned Fifty Shades of Mass Hysteria, the tides have turned. More people than ever are aware of BDSM, and the conversation is changing in favor of exploring slightly more "taboo" areas of sexual relationships. So what did that mean for my survey?

                    85% of the people I polled had engaged in some kind of light BDSM. And some had gone even further. As my friend Todd said, "If we're two consenting adults and I want you to punch me in the face while giving me a hand joband you're into that? Great."

                    The "and you're into that" part is, of course, the tricky part. Often, people are willing to explore BDSM activity but are afraid that their partner will judge them.

                    source http//www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/news/a13435/who-is-doing-bdsm/

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                      HP_TECH
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                      I love how causal that was said, haha.

                      I just discovered a journalist by the name of Lodro Rinzler who asked random people on the streets, at bars, coffee shops, restaurants, etc., about their sexual preferences, and then wrote an article about how common BDSM is. Here's a small portion of the article

                      source http//www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/news/a13435/who-is-doing-bdsm/

                      That is driven by media and pornography not actual sexual preferences.
                      Majority of the population are like cattle no worse than that, they imitate what they see and eat like the cattle do Consumerism=consumers
                      Allah's Words are Eternally Relevant
                      http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(717924)
                      http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(471216)
                      http//i.imgur.com/5LmtY.gif

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                        HP_TECH
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                        Selam brother,

                        I will explain my post. Many Muslim girls have sex before they get married and because they want to stay virgin they do anal sex. So as i said If your woman want to be slapped or she likes when you pull her hair it is not bad as it is bad to have anal sex. And God doey not care what we do in bed. I rather have a woman who wants to be slapped in bed than a woman who had anal sex. First i did not want to respond, but i had to, or else people would see me as crazy.

                        Peace

                        I don't think your crazy just very "graphic" lol

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                          Man_of_Faith
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                          It would support some of my studies on the human instinct as part of my project on faith. This is why I wondered. It is quite grotesque when you think of it. I more or less hate being within a Homo Sapiens body.

                          Be well
                          Amenuel

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                            Man_of_Faith
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                            That is driven by media and pornography not actual sexual preferences.

                            People imitate, yes, but much is also driven by the instinct and the Homo Sapiens have a tendency to enjoy violence due to thrill of the domination and sight of domination and apparently the feeling of being dominated is also arousing.

                            And I doubt it has emerged recently but has been present for many years. Such sexual fantasies have probably been in the minds of people for centuries. It is now mirrored in such as media.

                            Be well
                            Amenuel

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                              HP_TECH
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                              It would support some of my studies on the human instinct as part of my project on faith. This is why I wondered. It is quite grotesque when you think of it. I more or less hate being within a Homo Sapiens body.

                              Be well
                              Amenuel

                              You hate that which Allah has given you?
                              5514-16 So which of the favors of your Lord will you deny?
                              Me on the other hand am grateful to my Lord for His favors upon me. He has created man in truth and it is man's responsibility to treat the body with respect. Whites used the bible to brainwash the slaves, does that make it a detestable thing? No by all means
                              Perverts do obscene things with their bodies, does that make the human body a detestable thing? No by all means.
                              Do not hate God's creation Ameneuel

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                                The_Guided_One
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                                I wouldn't have thought you were crazy brother, don't worry. )

                                It all comes down to preference... Everyone, both men and women, have different sexual preferences. )

                                Selam Comrox,

                                Thank you, you sure are right ;D

                                Peace

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                                  Man_of_Faith
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                                  HP_TECH,

                                  The body is but a test. Often its enticements makes one want to hate it. Of course what I meant by hate is the situation of having my spirit merged with a primitive animal, but I could not hate the body itself or I could as well hate a dog. I care for animals of course.

                                  Be well
                                  Amenuel

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                                    The_Guided_One
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                                    That is driven by media and pornography not actual sexual preferences.
                                    Majority of the population are like cattle no worse than that, they imitate what they see and eat like the cattle do Consumerism=consumers
                                    Allah's Words are Eternally Relevant
                                    http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(717924)
                                    http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(471216)
                                    http//i.imgur.com/5LmtY.gif

                                    Selam Hp Tech,.

                                    Allah does not care what we do in bed, i had girlfriends before i became muslim and believe me most of them are beasts in bed. And actually i did like that too, so it is not media and it is not pornographic. I tell you that most girls like it when you pull their hair. It is not dirty, i do not see anything in bed as dirty, except anal sex. And we know that anal sex brings diseases, so Muslims should not do this.

                                    I do agree that most people are as cattle, but in bed everybody got their own feeling and what they like, so i disagree on this if this is about sexual preferences.Also pulling hair of a woman has nothing to do with porno. Most men have a obsession with hair of a woman and they want to touch it, also girls love their hair much, so this is not pornographic at all. Also Allah did not command us to be sweet to your women in bed, be a gentleman. Maybe one women out of 10 on earth would like that.

                                    Peace

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                                      The_Guided_One
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                                      I wonder how common it is that a woman wishes to be slapped during sex.

                                      Depends what kind of lady she is, some like chocking and some slapping, some like it hot and some like it cool. I know it is very common that women like to be chocked and slapped, you as a man should be the dominant person in bed and if you do not know that game, most of the ladies will not appreciate your style.

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                                        Comrox
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                                        That is driven by media and pornography not actual sexual preferences.
                                        Majority of the population are like cattle no worse than that, they imitate what they see and eat like the cattle do Consumerism=consumers
                                        Allah's Words are Eternally Relevant
                                        http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(717924)
                                        http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(471216)
                                        http//i.imgur.com/5LmtY.gif

                                        Isn't everyone and everything driven by the media, or our parents, or our schools, teachers, friends, other family members, books, etc., or by some other influence? We're all influenced some way or another. So we're all cattle, until we learn to think for ourselves.

                                        I'll restate from my earlier post

                                        Often, people are willing to explore BDSM activity but are afraid that their partner will judge them.

                                        I think more people are into kinky behavior, or at least a little curious about it, than most realize. We all have thoughts, some that are good or not so good, and we can't control our thoughts.

                                        The fear of judgment is what may often prevent someone from coming forward about what they like or want to try with their partner.

                                        Depends what kind of lady she is, some like chocking and some slapping, some like it hot and some like it cool. I know it is very common that women like to be chocked and slapped, you as a man should be the dominant person in bed and if you do not know that game, most of the ladies will not appreciate your style.

                                        There are men who like to be submissive too. They're out there. And then there are couples who want to "take turns" so to speak.

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                                          HP_TECH
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                                          Alright... folks... getting very graphic here lol
                                          A bit unnecessary... for this forum no?
                                          Let me state that I personally reserve no judgement concerning someone's sexual preference.(as long as we are talking about lawful heterosexual relationships )

                                          But whenever a topic is discussed in this forum I relate it to how I envision pious, abiding citizens.
                                          My argument is against the idea that these pseudo-violent "rape-like" sexual desires are actually innate desires present within all human beings.
                                          Being slapped, pulling hair, choked a little, handcuffed, gagged, blind-folded, tied, spanked a bit are all psychoerotic desires resemblant of rape not a loving passionate act.

                                          I do not expect members in this forum who hopefully are, unless married, abstinent from sex to truly grasp the huge difference between "rough sex"/BDSM and love-making.

                                          However, ask yourselves how would a virgin abstinent young woman know about BDSM if she has not been exposed to it? Can you actually picture a virgin chaste woman asking to be choked a little? How absurd is that!

                                          People are introduced to these psychoerotic fantasies as Comrox has stated herself

                                          Isn't everyone and everything driven by the media, or our parents, or our schools, teachers, friends, other family members, books, etc., or by some other influence? We're all influenced some way or another. So we're all cattle, until we learn to think for ourselves.

                                          But this does not make it ok! Like Comrox stated we have to think for ourselves and not follow the herd....
                                          There is a thin line between sexual violence and these psychoerotic fantasies. These pornographic fantasies are degrading in nature and in most cases lead to misconception of true nature of sex, actual rape, loss of respect for partner etc...

                                          Check this link https//focusoncampus.org/content/5-ways-porn-destroys-relationships

                                          When I say pornographic I man everything in the media from your 50 shades of grey hence books, radio, television, music, commercials, all of the above are potentially sexualizing(in a pornographic manner) factors.

                                          #StaySubmissiveToTheMostGraciousNotyourpartner

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