Have you seen God?

Bender

I have not visually seen except once and it was a very penetrating light with no center and nothing which has any physical form. God's/Rabb's "voice" does "echo" in the mind and is more like telepathy than a verbal conversation. It is like an intruding thought in the head.

Be well
Amenuel

Hi,

So what you saw was a very penetrating light with no center and nothing which has any physical form.
I can tell you that God is not a very penetrating light with no center and nothing which has any physical form.
What you saw was just a very penetrating light with no center and nothing which has any physical form, but not God.

Jafar

Yes I see/hear/feel Him every seconds..
Everywhere I turn at any angle that I turn I see/hear/feel Him
He's here there everywhere..
When I'm awake and also when I'm sleeping.
From the beginning of time until the end of time..
Before the beginning of time and after the end of time..

Man_of_Faith

Bender,

You were not there, were you?

"Penetrating" was just a manner of speaking. It was a concentrated light radiance, an energetic discharge and even when the event was over the lamp bulb in the ceiling was broken and the fuse had blown in the basement. Now that was a paranormal activity in my opinion. Whom was that except God/Rabb?

There was absolutely nothing physical about it, but there was an energetic discharge involving a strange powerful light.

You are so confident I have no communion with God/Rabb, but perhaps I have. Have you ever reflected upon it? I am constantly teaching in the forum, but you just ignore me like I was some stupid madman. That is your loss.

Be well
Amenuel

IAMOP

Peace

Nirvana, the moment of Ruh expanding into Infinite Consciousness

Nirvikalpa Samadhi which you can find described here
The sequence of events that are common in Krishnas nirvikalpa experience and my own were as follows

While in a deep meditative state, a sensation is felt at the base of the spine. The sensation is very unusual and feels like some form of energy activation.
The loss of corporeal sense, and immersion into internal experience
The ecstatic sensation of energy rising from the base of the spine
The shift of that ecstatic sensation to that of outward expansion
When the expansion gets to a maximum point, the ecstatic flow shifts up the spine to another level, and continues to expand
The ecstatic outward and then upward sensation is all the mind perceives
After each upward shift of the rushing energy, the sensation changes to a higher pitch of pleasure
The cycle of expansion to a maximum degree and then shifting upwards happens around 5 times.
At the highest level of outward expansion, the next shift is different. This time one slips out into the cosmos, a clusters of stars where there is no distinction between the stars and ones own mind i.e. the perceiver and the perceived are one. Thus subject and object disappear and one feels that one is bathing in a pool of ecstatic unity. The rush and expansion are no longer part of the experience.
This state lasts for an unknown length of time, perhaps a minute or two. Ones sense of personal experience does not disappear, i.e. one is not asleep or dreaming. Quite the contrary, one is acutely aware of all that is transpiring
Following the state of unity, one feels a sense of descending as one falls down and back into ones body. The pressures of life feel reapplied to ones body, almost as if returning from a zero gravity environment into a gravitational field.
Back in ones body, one returns to routine consciousness, opens ones eyes, and looks around, recognizing that one is back in ones room where nothing has changed.

https//lecubiste.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/nirvikalpa-and-the-unseen-world/

In the Sufi tradition this is known as Al-Fana.

When I went through my own experience, this is what I can describe.

(1) Expanding outward, I feel my entire being stretching out through all space and time, my being is no longer contained in my physical body but has stretched past my skin, dissolved into the universe and is stretching to infinity, I am travelling through each and every dimension of reality - x,y,z,t,5d,6d,7d,8d,9d,etc right through to infinity, I am seeing their nature and transcending them
(2) This expansion reaches infinity, and a silence begins to pervade, the world is dissolving
(3) The world begins to contract rapidly at a near or infinite velocity
(4) The contraction inward compressess all Reality into a tiny atom or smaller, a single point, a singularity, an infinite, dimensionless singularity
(5) The entire Reality dissolves and disappears altogether
(6) There is an Infinite Awareness, Consciousness, which knows all things, it is Infinite Love, it is filled with Infinite Truth, Wisdom, Radiance, I recognise this as Ar-Rahman, Allah, the Supreme Knower, it is not seen with the vision, it is the One who does the Seeing
(7) I spend some time engaging with this Being for a short while
( The Reality begins flooding back infinitely fast yet perfectly gently
(9) A white light appears of tremendous heat and like a laser, etches two lines into my left hand, which palm readers would identify as the Line of Fate and Line of Health - I take this as a Sign from Allah, a direct proof from Allah of the experience, that I could no longer doubt or question Allah ever again, these lines are still here to this day, the lines are etched by Kundalini Shakti which is the awakened Ruh faculty in the human
(10) Ever since that day I have lived in a state of Superconsciousness like what you see in the film Limitless but much higher in many respects but not as superpowered (I feel these faculties like that film can easily be unlocked but I have to do the purification work to release them)

I am released from all worldly troubles and suffering. I still feel pain, do good and bad things, but I am not touched by anything in the world at all. My heart and soul dwell in Allah and generally I stay Conscious of Allah more than anything. Allah comes to the foreground instead of the background. I have not yet transcended Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil. Ego is still present.

This I recognise was the first stage, now I am in the second stage, coming up to the White Light, the total dissolution into Allah itself, there will be no more of my individual self left at all. If it works as expected this is the state where Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil is transcended and Knowledge of Good and Knowledge of Evil can only be used in the same way Allah uses it, that is, to do Goodness alone. In the White Light my body is filled with total comfort from Allah, it is a total Grace from Allah (alhamdulillah), I go in and out of the White Light nowadays, but I am still working on being in it 24/7. It is a successive surrendering to Allah as Allah's will begins to take over from my own and I surrender my free will to Allah and then my body feels better and healthier and my words become more compassionate, I become wiser, and more effective in my ability to Live Life in Love and Truth.

Further knowledge of this can be found in various cultures - Shakti, Kundalini, Ruh, Holy Spirit, etc. If someone wishes to understand the phenomenons involved, research "samadhi" e.g. Nirvikalpa Samadhi (Sri Chinmoy's description describes the Nirvikalpa graced here, there are other descriptions of Nirvikalpa describing what appear to be a different but very related Samadhi), Ramana Maharshi, Irina Tweedie, Golden Sufi Centre/Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee, and "Ascension" (Energetic Synthesis/Ascension Glossary), a web search will point out all of these things. I am what is known as a Jivamukti - Liberation while still in body, liberated in the world.

I had always known as a child there was something tremendous awaiting me when I grew older and I felt the pull of its Love from far far away but I never knew what it was. On that fateful day, 10/10/2011, I discovered what it was, that was the day I entered the Nirvana, that was the day I found Rest and Peace in my Lord alone and knew forever of the Reality of Paradise. And so ever since all that remains is to shed the ego once and for all like a dead old skin and enter fully into the service of my Lord

By the sun and its radiance.
And the moon as it follows it.
And the day as it reveals it.
And the night as it conceals it.
And the sky and He who built it.
And the earth and He who spread it.
And the soul and He who proportioned it.
And inspired it with its wickedness and its righteousness.
Successful is he who purifies it.
Failing is he who corrupts it.
(ch91)

All praises be to Allah who guides and makes complete Its Creation

jedi group peace

hanslan

On top of that, whom you call Al-Shaytan does not exist as a person but is the body's instinct.

Hi Amenuel, referring to 3841-43 in the Q, story about Job.

3841 - Sahih International And remember Our servant Job, when he called to his Lord, "Indeed, Satan has touched me with hardship and torment."

How can we reconcile with your statement "Al-Shaytan does not exist as a person but is the body's instinct".

Your tots on this please.

Thanks.

hawk99

357 here we go again, you ask a question and sit back and watch forum
members make fools of themselves. Of course no one has seen Allah,
not Moses, Muhammad, Jesus, Abraham, Isaiah or Job. So why are you asking
us such a question. hmm

Man_of_Faith

That is true in a way since Allah was in Moses and the others mentioned. Although Moses went up to a mountain and had a conversation with Rabb while feeling Rabb's presence (the energy) after he had to flee for his life due to that people had conspired against him. That is how I experienced it too. I did not literally see Rabb, if that is how people read my words.

The energetic discharge caused the surroundings to illuminate. It is as if there was an anomaly present. At the same time a lamp bulb and a fuse blew. How undeniable is not that. Not to mention I have had a live feed from Rabb.

I also had the thought I had been dreaming (imagining) the paranormal event, but the physical damage testified I did actually witness what I did.

And it is not all that has occurred either.

Be well
Amenuel

Bender

Bender,

You were not there, were you?

Hi MoF,

I don't have to be there to know that whatever you saw can never be God.

"Penetrating" was just a manner of speaking. It was a concentrated light radiance, an energetic discharge and even when the event was over the lamp bulb in the ceiling was broken and the fuse had blown in the basement. Now that was a paranormal activity in my opinion. Whom was that except God/Rabb?

There was absolutely nothing physical about it, but there was an energetic discharge involving a strange powerful light.

GREEN I don't know I was not there.

You are so confident I have no communion with God/Rabb, but perhaps I have.

Yes I am very confident about it.
Maybe you have visions or you are a rasul or a nabi or a saint or jesus or whatever you wish but you can never be a part of Allah, that is totally out of question.
What exactly in you is Godly?

Have you ever reflected upon it?

I am not going to reflect on something that totally makes no sense.
Just give me 1 reason why you think you are part of God or what part of you is godly or why you think God needs you or whatever.
Just 1 reason.

I am constantly teaching in the forum, but you just ignore me like I was some stupid madman. That is your loss.

No that is not true. I do not ignore you or your teachings, I have indeed not read all your posts but when I read one, I try to take the good things out of your teachings and not the things that make no sense to me.
Any how can I agree with something that goes beyond what I believe or that goes beyond my knowledge? Do you that? I mean do you just believe someone even when it goes against your believe?
That is what I did when I was a "sunni", but I decided not to do that anymore.

RED What do you mean with this? It almost looks like that you claim to know the truth about everything and anyone who does not agree with you is on the loosing end.

Be well
Amenuel

peace

imrankhawaja

there is nothing like him, Allah is unique, No image can grasp the image of Allah.not even hubble telescope

so whats the point of posting these things , you can only feel Allah thats it,

why moses cant see Allah he was one of the messenger quran talks alot about him,, so who the hell we are to think we can see Allah whoever create this thread need to give a little respect to Allah asking these type of question leads towards opposite of toheed , still then if somebody thinks they saw Allah they need pyscatrist,

and some people attach so much with Allah they love Allah , i m one of them as well, my biggest wish is to see allah , but i cant i know, and llot of times i see lot of paranormal things , it dosent mean that was Allah , its just creations , light is also a form of matter and a creation of Allah,

guys what happened with all of us , where we are going cant you see people are claiming prophet image is the image of Allah on the night journey, 90% sunnis believe on it. shall we also follow them and contradict the teaching of our own rab who is saying no image can grasp the image of Allah.

hanslan

Common ppl. I think everyone has seen the Creator, in a way its confirmed in the Q. The problem is none of us are given the ability to describe because the Creator's existence is beyond our given comprehension. So we can only get allegories and as u know, the guidance from Q says if you like to go for those unclear verses you are only looking for trouble. For MOF, if he can recall what he witnessed good for him but definitely it will be impossible for him to describe the Creator, the closes he can is to the allegory that the Creator gave in the Q.

And of course ppl are jealous, damnn you've seen the Creator man!

imrankhawaja

Common ppl. I think everyone has seen the Creator, in a way its confirmed in the Q.

dnt you think its opposite what you are saying here, according to alquran Allah is the one who is unique and unimaginable.

For MOF, if he can recall what he witnessed good for him but definitely it will be impossible for him to describe the Creator, the closes he can is to the allegory that the Creator gave in the Q.

no comments

And of course ppl are jealous, damnn you've seen the Creator man!

illogical as first rule need to be accomplished while getting jealous on second place. u make me laugh now my frd, tempt

imrankhawaja

That is true in a way since Allah was in Moses and the others mentioned. Although Moses went up to a mountain and had a conversation with Rabb while feeling Rabb's presence (the energy) after he had to flee for his life due to that people had conspired against him. That is how I experienced it too. I did not literally see Rabb, if that is how people read my words.

The energetic discharge caused the surroundings to illuminate. It is as if there was an anomaly present. At the same time a lamp bulb and a fuse blew. How undeniable is not that. Not to mention I have had a live feed from Rabb.

I also had the thought I had been dreaming (imagining) the paranormal event, but the physical damage testified I did actually witness what I did.

And it is not all that has occurred either.

Be well
Amenuel

may be its the presence of an angel or jinn you feel , and they also perform same things very easily,

btw can you tell me what exacty was the situation and what you was doing, was you asking/praying Allah to show himself to you when all this happen? or it was a warning /message to some specific thing?

its quite interesting to talk on paranormal lot of people experience lot of different things,

357

357 here we go again, you ask a question and sit back and watch forum
members make fools of themselves. Of course no one has seen Allah,
not Moses, Muhammad, Jesus, Abraham, Isaiah or Job. So why are you asking
us such a question. hmm

Man of faith, Good Logic, hawk99

well i do think you can see his effects sometimes through us and other times through other things.

Once i was so down (about 35 years ago)i went out to jump off a building , but only remembered six months down the road that i was missing that part of my memory - what ever happened when i went out.

Once in Pakistan i was sick and in bed, at night i had to go to the loo which was outside in the yard, being a summer night people where sleeping on beds in the yard as i was coming back to my room i saw my wife in bed with her brother - could be very innocent, but being very religious i got the shock of my life although they didn't see me i imagined all sorts of things when i got back to my room. I couldn't get it out of my mind, my mind was so pressurized as though it would explode.At that moment the glass of a vacume flask flask that was on the shelf exploded , the bang was so loud every body sleeping from the outside yard came running to see - obviously after wards went back to their beds and i explained to my wife what i saw and she reassured me somewhat that they had met after a long time and it was all innocent.

Sorry but i certainly don't believe in mind over matter and stuff.

There have been many other incidents i believe i have seen allah as well he has helped me many a time i believe.

I think may be we have all seen him but define him differently.

peace

mmkhan

Peace,

I think people here are getting confuse.
Everyone might have feel Allah's existence, His presence when needed.
This does not mean that they have seen Him with naked eyes &

hawk99

Man of faith, Good Logic, hawk99

well i do think you can see his effects sometimes through us and other times through other things.

peace

Peace 357, we can indeed see his creation, but not the creator of creation.

6/103 Vision comprehends Him not, and He comprehends vision; and He is the Knower of subtleties, the Aware.

peace

357

Peace 357, we can indeed see his creation, but not the creator of creation.

6/103 Vision comprehends Him not, and He comprehends vision; and He is the Knower of subtleties, the Aware.

peace

There are many companies where the workers have never met the owner and never seen him but we do believe a certain person is the owner, same way we may not have seen God physically but have seen his presence so believe he exists

peace

hawk99

I agree with this.

There are many companies where the workers have never met the owner and never seen him but we do believe a certain person is the owner, same way we may not have seen God physically

(pay attention to your own words)

but have seen his presence so believe he exists

Again, we do not "see" Allah, what we "see" is his creation so we know he exists.

peace & God bless you

Man_of_Faith

We can see the "vibration" of God's presence, the consequential energetic affection. But God has no physical form and is hence invisible. It does not make it impossible to know God is manipulating the spatial environment where you are in order to communicate.

imrankhawaja

@ mof

u didnt replied my post 15,

peace

Man_of_Faith

Imran,

I was just idle in my room and then suddenly a strange light began to emit without any apparently visible source. I looked out of the window and the perimeter around the whole house was also covered in that strange light. Then the power surge increased further and the light bulb began to flicker and lightning came out of the electric outlets. At the moment I began to freak out so I left the room, but the power surge seemed focused on me and as I went past the kitchen the phone began ringing too just like that.

After that I had the encounter with thoughts implanted into my mind and soon I fell asleep and woke up many hours later in my bed. My life has also not been the same after that and a special one.

Just as I did you probably would think I dreamed or was hallucinating, but there were many signs left after the event such as a broken phone, lamp bulb and fuse in the basement. If these things had not occurred I would not have thought I really experienced the stuff.

Be well
Amenuel