On Marijuana

Xailus

Here's some more. Modern science refutes the notion that marijuana is neuro-toxic. Recent scientific discoveries indicate that cannabinoids are actually neuroprotective. Researchers at the US National Institutes of Mental Health (NIMH) reported that non-psychoactive cannabinoid reduced ethanol-induced cell death in the brain by up to 60 percent. Let me quote directly from the paper, "This study provides the first demonstration of CBD as an in vivo neuroprotectant... in preventing binge ethanol-induced brain injury."

Also, here's some food for thought. Did you know that alphabet agencies, make MUCH more off of marijuana being illegal than they would if it were legalized? Think about it... just saying...

Don't get me started on Native American culture and religion surrounding marijuana.

fye

Salaam
Nope this x-kid poster is correct
In small amounts certain chemicals can increase your information in take like cocaine in small amounts can guide your mood like using the leaves for a tea but in large amounts can take your mind from you and make you obcested with the chemical source like if you take a larger bunch of leaves and turn them in to a reduced salt you can shove up your nose.

A small amount in your bloodstream makes you think that the air light and temperature (atomsphere) is very pleasant just like weed in it's amounts but when does become all about the thc or simply so obviously about the thc that you just start trying to sniff the salt of thc? (in hopes of it rubbing against your brain)

When I think about it it's all salts some crystalline chemical that mixes with your water's and days in your body.
Crack is on base the salts mix into the base and the water's in your mouth and body break down the chemical quicker and that blood like most blood in your body ( even the blood that goes to your boner called boner blood goes to your brain this is why fornication requires the 80lashes you need your brain to release counter chemicals or the bitch will posses you chemically lol)

But it goes between your ties into the pump of your heart and then your brain.smoking oxygen is absorbed in the lung on a cellular level.

Not to put x Lys on blast but I'm pretty sure you high posted you had one big idea and then you tried to time the end of your post with the exhale of your excitement, which could explain the breaks in your posting. That pretty funny but it does nothing for your argument this is not jesusland dude you don't have to save the "I'm high right now!!!!!!" for the ignoramus who attack without knowledge only seeing their own desires.
We understand that there is a science to religion and weed falls into so their toxic or non-toxic and yes I posted on this forum board stoned it was just some kush so with all those thc crystals the ideas flow like an exhale after a pull on a blunt yet it's the tobacco that makes you focus your thoughts.

So has anyone on this forum decided if weed was toxic? People die from alcohol but weed deaths .....
Spiders are toxic but if weed bit me I don't think I'll feel a need to fly around saving people ( the Spiderman spider contained a chemical that made him think he should dress nude-ishly and save people fighting other high powered mentally I'll or high people)

Maybe you can't tell because alcohol is in gas form all-around you in your cleaners, in the drinks you drink, and injected soaps and deodorants and fragrances.

You'll find that a few sips of alcohol will.make reality really set in the world around you starts feeling extremely "real" as though what your body perceives is the only reality.

23rd does the opposite of this and when you get bodied ( drank and blunts lol ALLAH forgive me for my past)
The world becomes this swirl of death and struggling for balance. The weed balances you and the alcohol gives you this near vomit that if You surpress will go away and you'll feel the alcohol steaming ( literally chemically) out of your pores.

Alcohol limits your understanding to your senses you are made of the earth you should be able to pull information from it human beings are literally earth golems. Everything that makes is found in the ground we spawned from. Like food breaks down into sugars we are made of DNA which contains the sugar deoxy-ribose.

Alcohol is a sugar poop or vile made by yeast. Yeast ways sugar and leaves alcohol as a byproduct

Wait this post is too long can someone just wiki alcohol or post and explain the chemical equation and label the by-products. Also more that DNA can be consumed by yeast and human alcohol. Can be made. Like snake alcohol

fye

Pulling from the earth.
We human beings are omnivores we don't have a six sense we are designed to smell out food and our body has a knowledge from eating this food where to find it and how it makes you feel after you consume it.

You can smell the fat to flesh of a flesh based creature, djinn I believe smell like wax
But fat people smell different from skinny people and Moreno hair smells different from other hairs both have oils and oils are used in fragrances.

If you go toward a river or body of water you should be able to smell the water in the air because your mouth is trying to pull moisture from the air like when you put your mouth to a cup of water a comparatively small amount of water.

Your body is always seeking answers and needs you don't want just any sweaty woman in your bed you want one with the oils you ( your body) likes. You always smell chicks hair which is why they are to cover their heads in Islam ( abrahamic monotheism) or some one will pick up the scent of their oils and decide if they should have sex with this woman ( pumping those oils out of her butt into a gas form like weed tell you it's better to inhale it) you get your chemical full of her oils then you can see beyond her oils and realize you don't even like her.

Alcohol makes smelling very very differcult it blinds your senses your nose which pulls all the decisions you make from the air.

Yet again weed enhance your sense of taste. Will anyone go as far to say weed is the opposite of alcohol which is an obvious intoxicant?

good_logic

Peace fye.

You mean this

The most common alcohol is ethanol which is commonly produced by fermentation.

Common Alcohols and their Chemical Formula
methanol CH3OH methanol
ethanol CH3CH2OH or C2H5OH
propan-1-ol CH3CH2CH2OH or C3H7OH
propan-2-ol CH3CH(OH)CH3

I am sure you can also find the chemical formula for weeds, drugs,etc.

But it is better if you say NO
.
What is the chemical formula for NO?

NO is a chemical formula. NO stands for Nitric oxide (nitrogen monoxide). Nitric oxide is a chemical compound that is produced by cigarette smoke.

On a serious note. Can the body be healthier without? That is if one chooses to!

GOD bless you.
Peace

imrankhawaja

I am sure you can also find the chemical formula for weeds, drugs,etc.

C21H30O2 thats the chemical formula of thc which is the main element of makin marijuana

and as far plant concern one can say that it gives u relaxation ,

what is the alternate of getting relaxation if it cannot be obtained by intoxicants

and effects and nature of marijuana is totally different from alchohal

alcohol makes blood pressure high whereas weed make it slow
alchol is liquid wheras weed is solid or gas
one makes u trouble maker whereas weed makes u peaceful
one makes ur liver damage wheras weed effext on lungs

Xailus

Salaam Fye!

I don't mean to offend you, but you may be a good example to why I don't recommend marijuana. First of all, who is "x-kid?" If you're referring to me, thanks, but I don't think you realize how old I am . Also, who's "x Lys?" If that is also referring to me, is it that hard to type up Xailus? Just curious.

Fye, you said, "I'm pretty sure you high posted." I'm sorry brother (or sister?), I was not high when I first posted and I'm not high right now... As for how you came to this conclusion, I don't even understand what you mean by, "you had one big idea and then you tried to end your post with the exhale of your excitement." In fact, I don't understand more than half your post... I've read it 3 times and can't make out what you're trying to say. Either the marijuana is truly messing with your ability to communicate properly or English is not your first language (or I can't read properly ;D). I can't really address the rest of your post because I honestly don't understand it.

Salaam imrankhawaja!

I'd like to point out that weed only effects the lungs if smoked. There are many other ways to use marijuana. Edibles and vaporizers are very safe ways to use marijuana.

Edit to add* I haven't been using the "Quote" option and I apologize. I still have to get used to the tools on this forum.

Xailus

The more I think about it, the more I believe marijuana is not for most people (keyword being most, meaning majority). And given the current path I see society taking, I am not for the legalization of marijuana. I believe it will be used and abused without caution. I am, however, for the decriminalization of marijuana. The irony of all this coming from someone who uses marijuana regularly. Take it how you will.

imrankhawaja

The more I think about it, the more I believe marijuana is not for most people (keyword being most, meaning majority). And given the current path I see society taking, I am not for the legalization of marijuana. I believe it will be used and abused without caution. I am, however, for the decriminalization of marijuana. The irony of all this coming from someone who uses marijuana regularly. Take it how you will.

w salam my brother

there are some little advantages of weed like it make your thinking broad and you can easily do research and difficult works as the state of mind is relaxed, i can understand what you trying to say, and also it enhabce driving abilities one is more cautious while driving , i mean high alert , but again my question is is the intxication of quran and weed are in same catagory, as i already told the differences between alcohal and weed

Xailus

w salam my brother

there are some little advantages of weed like it make your thinking broad and you can easily do research and difficult works as the state of mind is relaxed, i can understand what you trying to say, and also it enhabce driving abilities one is more cautious while driving , i mean high alert , but again my question is is the intxication of quran and weed are in same catagory, as i already told the differences between alcohal and weed

Personally, I wouldn't categorize marijuana as toxic. I don't find it to be toxic to me physically or mentally. But again, that only applies to me. Everyone is different, so I cannot speak for anyone else. For example, my brother-in-law is quite a test subject for neurologists and sleep doctors. He is the first person I've seen go into the deepest Rem sleep while STANDING. Waking him up is one of the hardest things. I have to literally drag him from one of the legs and toss him off the bed as hard as I can so that he experiences the sensation of free-falling.

Here is the deal, I once got my brother-in-law very high off marijuana. Boy was that an experience for the both of us. His reaction to marijuana was out of this world... I believe it's because his state of mind is naturally high. In other words, some of the effects I feel while under the influence of marijuana is what my brother-in-law feels sober. He is quite a remarkable man, born and raised on the Himalayan mountains of Nepal. He was also the heaviest newborn in his city. He is naturally fit and big boned. He can also eat more than I've ever seen anyone eat and still not gain a lb. Anyways, he is a subject for a different thread on "mountain men." Point is, he is different and so reacts to things differently.

imrankhawaja

hmm then as a conclusion if we have weed we are not doing sommething fishy , thats what i m afraid off always, becoz not at any cost i want to angry my lord , if alcholal and marijuans are different things and if marijuan is not catagorised as toxic , then there is no ham of having it , like tea , coffe , antibiotics tablets, cigraates tobacco etc,
but again i dnt know why i m afraid always of disobeying lord, i m not perfect though , everybody have mistakes but one need to understand whats going on ,

Xailus

hmm then as a conclusion if we have weed we are not doing sommething fishy , thats what i m afraid off always, becoz not at any cost i want to angry my lord , if alcholal and marijuans are different things and if marijuan is not catagorised as toxic , then there is no ham of having it , like tea , coffe , antibiotics tablets, cigraates tobacco etc,
but again i dnt know why i m afraid always of disobeying lord, i m not perfect though , everybody have mistakes but one need to understand whats going on ,

Being afraid of disobeying your lord reflects your obedience towards him. It is a good thing ). Let me clarify, just because I categorized marijuana as "non-toxic" does not mean it is true. I may, very well, be wrong. If you really care to know (with God in mind), there is plenty of information on marijuana on the internet and in your local library. Do the research and form your own opinion. My advice, if you're on the fence and cannot make up your mind, leave it alone.

imrankhawaja

Being afraid of disobeying your lord reflects your obedience towards him. It is a good thing . Let me clarify, just because I categorized marijuana as "non-toxic" does not mean it is true. I may, very well, be wrong. If you really care to know (with God in mind), there is plenty of information on marijuana on the internet and in your local library. Do the research and form your own opinion. My advice, if you're on the fence and cannot make up your mind, leave it alone.

hmm lets see in which way the wind will blow..lol, by the way nice meeting with you. i think you just jjoined the forum , and i dnt know you name either, well i m imran from birmingham

fye

Salaam sorry xailus I for fustrated at the board because I smoke weed and I don't really see how it can be an intoxicant I smoked and drink my fair share of alcohol and alcohol dulls your senses.
If you had to hunt for food drunk your more likely to fail.
Sorry about the a kid thing not a disrespect fully term to me.
And I thought it was just a high post because it seemed incomplete.

So this board is full of anti-weed and I was hoping to being it to a level of intoxicant.
So far people say it's not much different from yea and coffee just a but heavier.
Recall the history of weed how it became banned and replaced with alcohol. Was that really a move for the better?
Alcohol is used to extract oils from things because of it's destructive properties. It can decay vanilla bean mash and leave just a flavoured liquid
This happens in the body too.

Fire is bad because it turns you into part of the fire getting burned by fire what it leaves is carbon. Same 28th smoking weed.
Yet medical thc is sometimes extracted with alcohol does this take away from the medical qualities?

The harm would still be below the benefit.

Sorry if you didn't understand my post but human beings are supposed to have many senses like all life we sense danger so why does alcohol kill that sense while other substances make you taste stronger, enjoy the day more and such.

Alcohol is for depressed people who want to hurt themselves anyway, why would you drink something that tastes poisonous looks like water and makes you sick?
You can smoke alcohol just by pumping our of a liquid contained in a bottle saw it on YouTube and I thought the guy was pretty brave.
He smoked a box of wine the alcohol Was forced out by air pressure and he inhaled and got wastes in seconds
Like with pot it went straight to the lungs and head yet it's truly just in the blood stream mixing with the water already there.
Xailus welcome to the forum board I'm not really advocating weed it won't solve your problems and stuff but if it simply changed your disposition would you consider that like mint and root plants and some other flowers it's simply just getting a bad name? And it that the fun of smoking weed is distracting from it purpose? Like tea during the teaa party age and alcohol entering the pub and tavern age?

HP_TECH

Everyone go back and read post #21 the matter has been settle long ago. Fye is just fishing for bait...

fye

Fishing for bait? What My cover is blown?
Drugs have always been a part if human life man. You think cocaine wasn't a smelling salt on the silk road?
I smoke weed and I'm cool with that is this a judge people board or is there some goal we are after?
I'm simply saying if weed is bad then so if Advil coffee and large amounts of sugar.
But it's cool ALLAH will justify me. Sound like your just paranoid up I know your type what does your shaykh say about drugs? And what does he say about selling or giving them to kafirs?

HP_TECH

Little boy look at my avatar do I seem like your "typical" Muslim? I have no shayk no Imam.
I serve Allah Alone being sincere to Him in the dini.
I am actually closer to you than any of the people on this forum. Yet you have been unable to see it.
I have been waiting for you to get off the pot and come find me.
You are oblivious to the fact that we are both young black men, following Quran alone, both studying science, and yes I have smoked that which you smoke looong before as well.
Who better than me to tell you to quit and to reason?

The only known beneficial chemical in cannabis is cannabidiol (CBD) and studies on its long lasting effects have mixed reviews , THC is just what induces the "High" symptoms. Science confirms this. So when you are smoking the leaf you are only consuming THC which has more harm than benefit.
If your claim is that cannabis is just the plant then don't burn it and smoke it that's not natural. It's like claiming that broccoli are good for you if you smoke them...it is ridiculous.
If you want to consume consume it like all the other plants mash it up and juice it or eat it as a salad.

Either way the minuscule beneficial side of cannabidiol is irrelevant to how you put the plant into use. I doubt you have any neurological disorder or epilepsy. If you did then you need to extract CBD separately from the plant and use it as therapeutic oil. You just smoke the dried leaves bruh.
Which studies have demonstrated its great harm for users.
These are some
Reduced resistance to common illnesses (colds, bronchitis, etc.)
Suppression of the immune system
Growth disorders
Increase of abnormally structured cells in the body
Reduction of male sex hormones
Rapid destruction of lung fibers and lesions (injuries) to the brain could be permanent
Reduced sexual capacity
Study difficulties reduced ability to learn and retain information
Apathy, drowsiness, lack of motivation
Personality and mood changes
Inability to understand things clearly

The last one seems to pin point your condition exactly.

Scientific endeavor discourages smoking marijuana( we are both students of science)
There's no excuse for you.

Allah's Words are clear in the Quran go back and see post #21
We are to refrain from substances which cloud the mind

I am to you of the sincerest advisors.

Please genuinely reflect on Allah's Words

fye

Salaam this is a good reply and the energy you expect the forum board to hold every now and then.
You come off as a shaykh type but my bad I mad some asses sorry for assuming.
What you say about pot is somewhat true but considering the verse it points to toxicity.
What is mind clouding? What is mind clearing?

HP_TECH

A black man wearing a grey hoodie, black Jordan shorts, Nike socks and red Kobe Crazy8's sneakers is definitely not your typical shayk confused hmm.

Again you did not follow the discussion prior to 21 up closely.
Your misconception is manifold

You think intoxicant relates to toxic substances

You see marijuana as a plant and fail to see that you are burning it and not ingesting the plant by cooking, juicing it nor eating it as raw salad.

Burning is a chemical reaction, inhaling any kind of smoke can be toxic.
Come on you are in science!

You think the word in the Ayaahs mentions toxicity.

All those assumptions are completely WRONG

fye

I understand that smoke inhalation is bad But I smoke. Like with yeast leaving a by-product alcohol fire eats and leaves a by-product too.
The by products of tobacco are usullay from addictives I've never seen a by-product of maijuana smoke.
I've eaten pot before but if your goal is simply crush my pride about smoking in general then you got your point accross I'll drop my pride and say it's bad and I should quit. Ouch my pride is hurt lol.
Yet I do believe pot has benefits and it not obviously poisonous.
There is a verse in the Quran that goes like if someone of set purpose goes astray then let them.
Your duty is only to warn.
Of we all outlawed cannabis would we be missing out on some big scientific advanced?
The being a tetra compound similar to reactions maintaining life are we missing out on some huge benefit.
Also for people like me who smoke for experience what do you think we get out of smoking or consuming the plant? From your experience?
It simply makes things seem more complex and worth examining.

HP_TECH

My goal is to convey to you my message clearly.

I've used pot before I thought that using it was helping me critically think and examine things as you have stated. The truth is that I was completely deluded. It was clouding my mind and once I abstained from the drug I realized it.

Try your best and if and when you succeed come find me.

Goodbye for now