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New proofs (?) prove that PUNISHMENT IN THE GRAVE is REAL

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    lostINtheWORLD
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    http//www.authentictauheed.com/2013/07/485-punishment-of-grave.html

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      I have good laughs with you. it is the pan calling th ekettle black.

      Salaam

      1. Then how when the angels take them in death, striking their faces and their backs? (47, 27)

      2. "And if you could but see when the angels take the souls of those who disbelieved... They are striking their faces and their backs and , "Taste the punishment of the Burning Fire" (8, 50)

      3. The Fire; they are exposed to it, morning and afternoon, and on the Day when the Hour will be established (it will be said to the angels) "Cause Fir'aun's (Pharaoh) people to enter the severest torment!" (40, 46)

      4. We shall punish them twice, and thereafter they shall be brought back to a great (horrible) torment. (9, 101)

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        What will be punished?
        Will our life blood be punished it's what keeps is alive everything rots without it.
        What part I'm a person remains what contains the consciousness?

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          lostINtheWORLD
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          What will be punished?
          Will our life blood be punished it's what keeps is alive everything rots without it.
          What part I'm a person remains what contains the consciousness?

          Your soul

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            imrankhawaja
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            Your soul

            exactly now you are getting it, slowly slowly , soul/spirit/character is responsible for every action hence its soul/charatcer need to face the consequences of actions.

            by fire its an example to make your soul understand how much is the pain of getting burn in this wordly life with our bodies as a garment, body should not get suffer its character who is responsible,

            just start thinking from this life if u have no need of food sex garments, cold hot , just a being /soul /thinking/character , and somebody put you in jail for number of days , i think no body gona like as our egoo never let it happen, same will happen hereafter . the azab is something which make you feel tense disturb, irritation, azab ul shadded mean highly depressing life of character, on the other hand ,the soul of paradisers have same authorities of freedom, with adavance tecnologies even they can travel to glaxies for checking the old world ,, ho amazing,

            now decide like this life want to live as a criminal or a sober person, criminal life will be tensed , punished in some cases but a sober person life is relaxed like job kids meal hangout with partner, think about it,,

            literally quran talk as a poetry manner, giving examples are to make them understand,,

            do u know what havia is,,, what do you know what havia is,,,, a sparking blazing fire,(thats the extreme torture/pain we can think in this wordly life), what about the life herafter

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              exactly now you are getting it, slowly slowly , soul/spirit/character is responsible for every action hence its soul/charatcer need to face the consequences of actions.

              by fire its an example to make your soul understand how much is the pain of getting burn in this wordly life with our bodies as a garment, body should not get suffer its character who is responsible,

              just start thinking from this life if u have no need of food sex garments, cold hot , just a being /soul /thinking/character , and somebody put you in jail for number of days , i think no body gona like as our egoo never let it happen, same will happen hereafter . the azab is something which make you feel tense disturb, irritation, azab ul shadded mean highly depressing life of character, on the other hand ,the soul of paradisers have same authorities of freedom, with adavance tecnologies even they can travel to glaxies for checking the old world ,, ho amazing,

              now decide like this life want to live as a criminal or a sober person, criminal life will be tensed , punished in some cases but a sober person life is relaxed like job kids meal hangout with partner, think about it,,

              literally quran talk as a poetry manner, giving examples are to make them understand,,

              do u know what havia is,,, what do you know what havia is,,,, a sparking blazing fire,(thats the extreme torture/pain we can think in this wordly life), what about the life herafter

              At least you recognize the existence of a punishment or a bliss in the barzakh

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                imrankhawaja
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                At least you recognize the existence of a punishment or a bliss in the barzakh

                lol

                my brother i already told you about all this, death is compared to us as sleep , if someone is sleeping in bedroom and if someone is sleeping in jail cell are two different things,

                in sense of grave punishment dnt go for literal meaning , see the way of quran how they represent it, quran talks about dimenshn, beleiving in death in other words is to beleive in another dimenshn,

                its not possible for any human being to pass that dimenshn or create one by his own,

                its our lord who create life and death to test us,

                step by step like algorithm everything will take place,

                Allah is the one who initiate the creation and he will definately repeat it,

                but why think about punishment of any type at first place,, i cant even imagine to be punished, so i will try my best to avoid the anger of God in any possible way.

                so

                we should not ask a address of town where we dnt need to go,

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                  lostINtheWORLD
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                  we should not ask a address of town where we dnt need to go,

                  1. Then how when the angels take them in death, striking their faces and their backs? (47, 27)

                  2. "And if you could but see when the angels take the souls of those who disbelieved... They are striking their faces and their backs and , "Taste the punishment of the Burning Fire" (8, 50)

                  3. The Fire; they are exposed to it, morning and afternoon, and on the Day when the Hour will be established (it will be said to the angels) "Cause Fir'aun's (Pharaoh) people to enter the severest torment!" (40, 46)

                  4. We shall punish them twice, and thereafter they shall be brought back to a great (horrible) torment. (9, 101)

                  These 4 verses explicity talk about the Angels demolish the dead in the Barzakh. I want to know why others Submitters try to avoid this or deny this.

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                    imrankhawaja
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                    for all these answers wait for death to approach us, the best in the light of quran you take it , rest of it do your research again , no rush, make urself satisfied logically and if you try to understand the laws of unseen , trust me nobody can help you apart from Allah,

                    some of the questions only Allah knows, ask from him honestly , i m sure he will lead you a way. sometimes i stuck in matters that seems uncontrolable , but surprisingly Allah saves me from harms,

                    believing in one supreme being, supreme master, supreme lord is required for us, we are weak, limited knowledge creation, do you really think human is so intelligent and he discover things by his own mind, think about it, its God who put ideas that leads you towards success,

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                      Man_of_Faith
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                      Only worldly humans are weak.

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                        imrankhawaja
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                        Only worldly humans are weak.

                        lol i only knnow wordly humans,

                        i never encounter any heavenly human yet

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                          Man_of_Faith
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                          Oh well, they are in a clear minority.

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