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    imrankhawaja
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    Being afraid of disobeying your lord reflects your obedience towards him. It is a good thing . Let me clarify, just because I categorized marijuana as "non-toxic" does not mean it is true. I may, very well, be wrong. If you really care to know (with God in mind), there is plenty of information on marijuana on the internet and in your local library. Do the research and form your own opinion. My advice, if you're on the fence and cannot make up your mind, leave it alone.

    hmm lets see in which way the wind will blow..lol, by the way nice meeting with you. i think you just jjoined the forum , and i dnt know you name either, well i m imran from birmingham

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      fye
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      Salaam sorry xailus I for fustrated at the board because I smoke weed and I don't really see how it can be an intoxicant I smoked and drink my fair share of alcohol and alcohol dulls your senses.
      If you had to hunt for food drunk your more likely to fail.
      Sorry about the a kid thing not a disrespect fully term to me.
      And I thought it was just a high post because it seemed incomplete.

      So this board is full of anti-weed and I was hoping to being it to a level of intoxicant.
      So far people say it's not much different from yea and coffee just a but heavier.
      Recall the history of weed how it became banned and replaced with alcohol. Was that really a move for the better?
      Alcohol is used to extract oils from things because of it's destructive properties. It can decay vanilla bean mash and leave just a flavoured liquid
      This happens in the body too.

      Fire is bad because it turns you into part of the fire getting burned by fire what it leaves is carbon. Same 28th smoking weed.
      Yet medical thc is sometimes extracted with alcohol does this take away from the medical qualities?

      The harm would still be below the benefit.

      Sorry if you didn't understand my post but human beings are supposed to have many senses like all life we sense danger so why does alcohol kill that sense while other substances make you taste stronger, enjoy the day more and such.

      Alcohol is for depressed people who want to hurt themselves anyway, why would you drink something that tastes poisonous looks like water and makes you sick?
      You can smoke alcohol just by pumping our of a liquid contained in a bottle saw it on YouTube and I thought the guy was pretty brave.
      He smoked a box of wine the alcohol Was forced out by air pressure and he inhaled and got wastes in seconds
      Like with pot it went straight to the lungs and head yet it's truly just in the blood stream mixing with the water already there.
      Xailus welcome to the forum board I'm not really advocating weed it won't solve your problems and stuff but if it simply changed your disposition would you consider that like mint and root plants and some other flowers it's simply just getting a bad name? And it that the fun of smoking weed is distracting from it purpose? Like tea during the teaa party age and alcohol entering the pub and tavern age?

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        HP_TECH
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        Everyone go back and read post #21 the matter has been settle long ago. Fye is just fishing for bait...

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          fye
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          Fishing for bait? What My cover is blown?
          Drugs have always been a part if human life man. You think cocaine wasn't a smelling salt on the silk road?
          I smoke weed and I'm cool with that is this a judge people board or is there some goal we are after?
          I'm simply saying if weed is bad then so if Advil coffee and large amounts of sugar.
          But it's cool ALLAH will justify me. Sound like your just paranoid up I know your type what does your shaykh say about drugs? And what does he say about selling or giving them to kafirs?

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            HP_TECH
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            Little boy look at my avatar do I seem like your "typical" Muslim? I have no shayk no Imam.
            I serve Allah Alone being sincere to Him in the dini.
            I am actually closer to you than any of the people on this forum. Yet you have been unable to see it.
            I have been waiting for you to get off the pot and come find me.
            You are oblivious to the fact that we are both young black men, following Quran alone, both studying science, and yes I have smoked that which you smoke looong before as well.
            Who better than me to tell you to quit and to reason?

            The only known beneficial chemical in cannabis is cannabidiol (CBD) and studies on its long lasting effects have mixed reviews , THC is just what induces the "High" symptoms. Science confirms this. So when you are smoking the leaf you are only consuming THC which has more harm than benefit.
            If your claim is that cannabis is just the plant then don't burn it and smoke it that's not natural. It's like claiming that broccoli are good for you if you smoke them...it is ridiculous.
            If you want to consume consume it like all the other plants mash it up and juice it or eat it as a salad.

            Either way the minuscule beneficial side of cannabidiol is irrelevant to how you put the plant into use. I doubt you have any neurological disorder or epilepsy. If you did then you need to extract CBD separately from the plant and use it as therapeutic oil. You just smoke the dried leaves bruh.
            Which studies have demonstrated its great harm for users.
            These are some
            Reduced resistance to common illnesses (colds, bronchitis, etc.)
            Suppression of the immune system
            Growth disorders
            Increase of abnormally structured cells in the body
            Reduction of male sex hormones
            Rapid destruction of lung fibers and lesions (injuries) to the brain could be permanent
            Reduced sexual capacity
            Study difficulties reduced ability to learn and retain information
            Apathy, drowsiness, lack of motivation
            Personality and mood changes
            Inability to understand things clearly

            The last one seems to pin point your condition exactly.

            Scientific endeavor discourages smoking marijuana( we are both students of science)
            There's no excuse for you.

            Allah's Words are clear in the Quran go back and see post #21
            We are to refrain from substances which cloud the mind

            I am to you of the sincerest advisors.

            Please genuinely reflect on Allah's Words

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              fye
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              Salaam this is a good reply and the energy you expect the forum board to hold every now and then.
              You come off as a shaykh type but my bad I mad some asses sorry for assuming.
              What you say about pot is somewhat true but considering the verse it points to toxicity.
              What is mind clouding? What is mind clearing?

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                HP_TECH
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                A black man wearing a grey hoodie, black Jordan shorts, Nike socks and red Kobe Crazy8's sneakers is definitely not your typical shayk confused hmm.

                Again you did not follow the discussion prior to 21 up closely.
                Your misconception is manifold

                You think intoxicant relates to toxic substances

                You see marijuana as a plant and fail to see that you are burning it and not ingesting the plant by cooking, juicing it nor eating it as raw salad.

                Burning is a chemical reaction, inhaling any kind of smoke can be toxic.
                Come on you are in science!

                You think the word in the Ayaahs mentions toxicity.

                All those assumptions are completely WRONG

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                  fye
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                  I understand that smoke inhalation is bad But I smoke. Like with yeast leaving a by-product alcohol fire eats and leaves a by-product too.
                  The by products of tobacco are usullay from addictives I've never seen a by-product of maijuana smoke.
                  I've eaten pot before but if your goal is simply crush my pride about smoking in general then you got your point accross I'll drop my pride and say it's bad and I should quit. Ouch my pride is hurt lol.
                  Yet I do believe pot has benefits and it not obviously poisonous.
                  There is a verse in the Quran that goes like if someone of set purpose goes astray then let them.
                  Your duty is only to warn.
                  Of we all outlawed cannabis would we be missing out on some big scientific advanced?
                  The being a tetra compound similar to reactions maintaining life are we missing out on some huge benefit.
                  Also for people like me who smoke for experience what do you think we get out of smoking or consuming the plant? From your experience?
                  It simply makes things seem more complex and worth examining.

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                    HP_TECH
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                    My goal is to convey to you my message clearly.

                    I've used pot before I thought that using it was helping me critically think and examine things as you have stated. The truth is that I was completely deluded. It was clouding my mind and once I abstained from the drug I realized it.

                    Try your best and if and when you succeed come find me.

                    Goodbye for now

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                      fye
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                      Salaam your message is received. I'll just quit it no big thing not like breathing air and drink water I can live without it.
                      Thank you and I'm not to proud to serve ALLAH.

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                        good_logic
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                        My simple and effective method to combat depression is to seek meditation and praise ,connecting to GOD Alone and feeding your soul.

                        All intoxicants of the mind cloud it and hold your soul prisoner to the habit.

                        Free your soul ,connect to your creator.
                        GOD bless.
                        Peace.

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                          Wal1Allan
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                          Alcohol is shit. I don't understand why countries have chosen to ban pot, and alcohol is advertised everywhere...

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