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    stranger
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    http//Patience
    Patience is the ability to endure waiting, delay, or
    provocation without becoming annoyed or upset, or to
    persevere calmly when faced with difficulties.

    Patience from a religious perspective

    Judaism

    "The patient man shows much good sense, but the
    quick-tempered man displays folly at its height."

    The Hebrew Bible

    "An ill-tempered man stirs up strife, but a patient man
    allays discord."

    "A patient man is better than a warrior, and he who
    rules his temper, than he who takes a city."

    "Better is the patient spirit than the lofty spirit. Do not
    in spirit become quickly discontented, for discontent
    lodges in the bosom of a fool."

    Christianity

    In the Christian religion, patience is one of the most
    valuable virtues of life.

    Increasing patience is viewed as the work of the Holy
    Spirit in the Christian who has accepted the gift of
    salvation.
    The high value placed on patience by Christianity is
    evidenced in the following bible references

    "We urge you, brothers, ... be patient with all.
    See that no one returns evil for evil; rather, always
    seek what is good for each other and for all."

    "Be patient, therefore, brothers, ... See how the
    farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, being
    patient with it until it receives the early and the late
    rains. You too must be patient."

    Islam

    Patience in Islam is one of the best and most
    valuable virtues of life.
    Through patience, a Muslim believes that an individual
    can grow closer to God and thus attain true peace.

    It is also stressed in Islam, that God is with those
    who are patient, more specifically during suffering.

    Some of the verses about patience

    "Seek Allah's help with patient perseverance and
    prayer. It is indeed hard except for those who are
    humble."

    "O you who believe! Seek help with patient
    perseverance and prayer, for God is with those who
    patiently persevere."

    "But give glad tidings to those who patiently
    persevere. Those who say, when afflicted with
    calamity, 'To Allah we belong, and to Him is our
    return.'
    They are those on whom descend blessings from
    their Lord, and mercy. They are the ones who receive
    guidance."

    "O you who believe! Persevere in patience and
    constancy. Vie in such perseverance, strengthen each
    other, and be pious, that you may prosper."

    "And be steadfast in patience, for verily Allah will not
    suffer the reward of the righteous to perish."

    "No one will be granted such goodness except those
    who exercise patience and self-restraint, none but
    persons of the greatest good fortune."

    "To be steadfast in prayer And give in charity; To fulfill
    the contracts which you have made;
    And to be firm and patient, in pain and adversity And
    throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of
    truth, the God-fearing."

    To have sabr (patience) means to patiently and rationally ? and
    prayerfully ? seek solutions to your problems

    ?Lord, grant me patience to bear the things I cannot
    change, courage to change the things I can, and
    wisdom to know the difference.?

    (Aal `Imran 3193)

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      i_believe
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      Salaam Stranger,

      Thank you for that. I struggle with patience often. This was a good reminder.

      Peace and Blessings.

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        unknownuser
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        Salaams Br's,

        No disrespect,but;

        "Seek Allah's help with patient perseverance and
        prayer. It is indeed hard except for those who are
        humble."

        I think i personally would go for;

        "Seek Allah's help with patient perseverance and
        counsel. It is indeed hard except for those who are
        humble."

        I would try a poll and see which people here think gives us more of a help.

        God Bless us.

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          IronSky
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          Peace to all,

          I would go for "patient perseverance and prayer" isnt that from the Quran. Why do you want to change it simple.

          Kurt

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            unknownuser
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            Peace to all,

            I would go for "patient perseverance and prayer" isnt that from the Quran. Why do you want to change it simple.

            Kurt

            I hope you don't mind a quistion for an answer Br.

            Is Kaaba in the quran the stone structure you find in mecca? If not should the meaning be changed to something more in line with the context of the quran and with reality too.

            God Bless

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              Taro_Hiroshi
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              Peace everyone,

              From my knowledge of the Quran, the quranic word "Sabr", commonly translated as patience, has been mistranslated. The word "Sabr" appears to have a much deeper meaning than patience. Patience is a passive word, while the quranic word "Sabr" is an active word. Many people believe that many words in the Quran have been mistranslated and misinterpreted by many past Scholars. Therefore, the true meaning of many quranic words/terms seems to have been hidden (concealed). I think that the true meanings of Quranic words/terms are very powerful and have the potential to create a paradigm shift in the world (especially in the muslim world).

              As mentioned earlier, the word "Sabr" (commonly translated as patience), has been mistranslated. The word "Sabr" has a much deeper meaning than patience. I would like to share a few paragraphs from the book "Lughat-ul-Quran" with you. The book is written by the muslim scholar G.A. Parwez. Please read these paragraphs carefully and reflect on what the author states about the word "Sabr" in the Quran.

              A few paragraphs from page 12 in the book

              2153 O you, who believe, seek help in patience (Sabre) and Salaat. God is with those with patience (Sabireen).

              SABR, commonly translated as patience, is usually applied to a situation from which an individual cannot escape, leading to desperation and helplessness. When there is no hope of actively affecting the situation, the advice given is "have patience," to the extent that even someone suffering great injustice at the hands of another, when he can do nothing to improve the situation, calms his inner struggle through the mantra of ?patience.? In other words, this interpretation of "sabr" carries a connotation of passivity.

              The root meaning of SABR, however, is constantly and continuously to struggle towards a goal or purpose, to stand steadfastly. This root meaning is derived based on its usage by the desert Arabs in their daily lives. In other words, it means a connotation of activity.

              A part of a cloud, if it stays in exactly the same spot for 24 hours without apparently shifting, is called AS-SABEER. AL-ASBIRAH is the word used to describe camels or goats that leave during the day to graze, and later return retracing their footsteps exactly, without a single one of them going astray or being left behind {T}. These concrete examples allow one to visualize how the Arabs understood SABR to mean steadfastness, persistence and perseverance, to firmly adhere to a principle or way, commitment to an action. It is this unshakable resolution towards a way or principle that was considered SABR by the Arabs.

              Moving on, if passengers or goods created an uneven balance on a boat such that it begins to be unstable, the boatman would place a heavy rock in order to balance the load. This rock would be called AS-SABOORAH {T}. Therefore, the second characteristic of SABR is that if one?s footsteps begin to waver from the path, it is SABR that provides the support upon which balance is regained, keeping the footsteps firmly on the chosen path. Because this kind of steadfastness leads to success and accomplishment, AS-SABRAH is used to describe a pile of grain that is unmeasured (Muheet).

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                HP_TECH
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                http//Patience
                Patience is the ability to endure waiting, delay, or
                provocation without becoming annoyed or upset, or to
                persevere calmly when faced with difficulties.

                Patience from a religious perspective

                Judaism

                "The patient man shows much good sense, but the
                quick-tempered man displays folly at its height."

                The Hebrew Bible

                "An ill-tempered man stirs up strife, but a patient man
                allays discord."

                "A patient man is better than a warrior, and he who
                rules his temper, than he who takes a city."

                "Better is the patient spirit than the lofty spirit. Do not
                in spirit become quickly discontented, for discontent
                lodges in the bosom of a fool."

                Christianity

                In the Christian religion, patience is one of the most
                valuable virtues of life.

                Increasing patience is viewed as the work of the Holy
                Spirit in the Christian who has accepted the gift of
                salvation.
                The high value placed on patience by Christianity is
                evidenced in the following bible references

                "We urge you, brothers, ... be patient with all.
                See that no one returns evil for evil; rather, always
                seek what is good for each other and for all."

                "Be patient, therefore, brothers, ... See how the
                farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, being
                patient with it until it receives the early and the late
                rains. You too must be patient."

                Islam

                Patience in Islam is one of the best and most
                valuable virtues of life.
                Through patience, a Muslim believes that an individual
                can grow closer to God and thus attain true peace.

                It is also stressed in Islam, that God is with those
                who are patient, more specifically during suffering.

                Some of the verses about patience

                "Seek Allah's help with patient perseverance and
                prayer. It is indeed hard except for those who are
                humble."

                "O you who believe! Seek help with patient
                perseverance and prayer, for God is with those who
                patiently persevere."

                "But give glad tidings to those who patiently
                persevere. Those who say, when afflicted with
                calamity, 'To Allah we belong, and to Him is our
                return.'
                They are those on whom descend blessings from
                their Lord, and mercy. They are the ones who receive
                guidance."

                "O you who believe! Persevere in patience and
                constancy. Vie in such perseverance, strengthen each
                other, and be pious, that you may prosper."

                "And be steadfast in patience, for verily Allah will not
                suffer the reward of the righteous to perish."

                "No one will be granted such goodness except those
                who exercise patience and self-restraint, none but
                persons of the greatest good fortune."

                "To be steadfast in prayer And give in charity; To fulfill
                the contracts which you have made;
                And to be firm and patient, in pain and adversity And
                throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of
                truth, the God-fearing."

                To have sabr (patience) means to patiently and rationally ? and
                prayerfully ? seek solutions to your problems

                ?Lord, grant me patience to bear the things I cannot
                change, courage to change the things I can, and
                wisdom to know the difference.?

                (Aal `Imran 3193)

                Please try to properly cite your sources if possible next time
                Thanks!

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                  imrankhawaja
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                  patience is what makes u differ from animal and other creations.

                  test is infact another name of patience. and lot of the problems occur in our daily life when we lose momentum of patience.

                  but human being is always very impatient human beings wants everything very qucikly , they always forget the dimenshn we are living in works slowly slowly with fix law of time, and we are part of it, when we are kids we really want ot get young qucikly, at that time we think we will be out of restrictions from elders, but again when we get elders and have our own kids watchhing them playing and living life withour depression, we remeber our childhood and we assume past was best ,

                  God bless you stranger,

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                    Jafar
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                    but human being is always very impatient human beings wants everything very qucikly , they always forget the dimenshn we are living in works slowly slowly with fix law of time, and we are part of it, when we are kids we really want ot get young qucikly, at that time we think we will be out of restrictions from elders, but again when we get elders and have our own kids watchhing them playing and living life withour depression, we remeber our childhood and we assume past was best ,

                    Not necessarily, I've seen and met a patient, firm and steadfast human, across different culture and social identities..
                    A sense of peacefulness can be felt from them..
                    And usually such character also come with humbleness / humility..

                    I haven't seen the combination of patient, peaceful and arrogant / proud in human.
                    Proud human usually impatient, hate / vengeful plus a bad temper..

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      Not necessarily, I've seen and met a patient, firm and steadfast human, across different culture and social identities..
                      A sense of peacefulness can be felt from them..
                      And usually such character also come with humbleness / humility..

                      I haven't seen the combination of patient, peaceful and arrogant / proud in human.
                      Proud human usually impatient, hate / vengeful plus a bad temper..

                      actually its about human nature,

                      sometimes you dnt want to do hate, impatient and bad temper but its due to other person u lose ur grip on tempo and shout at people but after a while u think within ur heart .

                      lot of cases people do cheat with me, in money matters, personal matters and i start hating them becoz i was about to save them from troubles and i help them in the bad times and as soon they get their things sorted out they show their real face, that make me feel bad . not due to the money they take , but about their selfishness . i sometimmes cant help it, and after that i never trust that perosn ,

                      proud is something when you challange Allah in anyway or challange somebody who is weaker than you to jst give tenshn or depression to somebody who is helpless, and u know he /she cannnot do anything with you. or treat them like shit, in lot of cases people feel disgusting to siiting or eating with their servants.

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