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What is love? - discuss.

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    The_Guided_One
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    my brother , peace

    first of all what ever i say in my post its imaginary/methphory not in actual,

    like we say my life become hell,
    or when you tensed somebody a lot , other person said you making me dead,
    while under water when breath mix with water and you shout , i m dead rotfl

    while enjoying party somebody say , i m feeling myself alive,

    apart from that no doubt in reality and real meaning death and life is in the hands of almighty, supreme being.

    red for this again you misunderstood , refer my post 86 regarding all this.

    about my fun , some topics are funny some are romantic some are spirtual we need to act in manner according to subject tone,

    now a days realtionship of husband/wife and GF/BF are like internat happen qucikly finish qucikly
    may be life is going so fast in the era of tecnology and science advancments lol

    peace God bless you

    God bless you too, i misunderstood you

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      imrankhawaja
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      God bless you too, i misunderstood you

      handshake

      peace

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        lostINtheWORLD
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        https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhrBDcQq2DM

        Haddaway ~ What is love?

        Just for fun. No off-topic intended.

        However, a good question indeed.

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          imrankhawaja
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          #98

          https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhrBDcQq2DM

          Haddaway ~ What is love?

          Just for fun. No off-topic intended. )

          However, a good question indeed.

          i already remind of that song, what is love baby dnt hurt me, no more,lolxx

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            hawk99
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            Apparently my definition of what is love was incomplete to
            some people because folks have determined that there are many
            kinds of love but if we continue to define love as a verb or an action
            word and that action is given out towards an object (noun or pronoun, idea etc.,)
            we will find that love is consistent and that only the objects change.
            Love is always how one treats, feels towards an object!

            am I getting closer?

            O0

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              HP_TECH
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              Apparently my definition of what is love was incomplete to
              some people because folks have determined that there are many
              kinds of love but if we continue to define love as a verb or an action
              word and that action is given out towards an object (noun or pronoun, idea etc.,)
              we will find that love is consistent and that only the objects change.
              Love is always how one treats, feels towards an object!

              am I getting closer?

              O0

              I endorse this. The objects are the ones that change but the act of loving remains consistent.
              Love entails care, comfort, concern for, protection of and desire for the recipient to improve,succeed, progress, thrive. One of the qualities it holds it is that it is unconditional.

              I believe people mistakenly load the word love with other ideas.
              When most people refer to romantic love they load the word love with attraction and desire(& etc).
              While these concepts are distinct from what love is.
              You can have attraction towards someone or desire someone without loving them.
              This is indicative of the word love having loaded meaning.

              Hawk is correct, the act of loving or even the noun love is consistent

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                good_logic
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                Peace Hawk.

                Brother , do you think that there are different strengths of Love?

                For example strong / weak love!

                Also long term/short term love!
                GOD bless you.
                Peace.

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                  HP_TECH
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                  Peace Hawk.

                  Brother , do you think that there are different strengths of Love?

                  For example strong / weak love!

                  Also long term/short term love!
                  GOD bless you.
                  Peace.

                  He cannot objectively answer that question unless you define what YOU mean by love.

                  For example my understanding of love is blah blah
                  Hawk do you agree with love meaning blah blah
                  Hawk based on a definition we agree upon are there degrees of love( blah blah )?

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                    hawk99
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                    I endorse this. The objects are the ones that change but the act of loving remains consistent.
                    Love entails care, comfort, concern for, protection of and desire for the recipient to improve,succeed, progress, thrive. One of the qualities it holds it is that it is unconditional.

                    I believe people mistakenly load the word love with other ideas.
                    When most people refer to romantic love they load the word love with attraction and desire(& etc).
                    While these concepts are distinct from what love is.
                    You can have attraction towards someone or desire someone without loving them.
                    This is indicative of the word love having loaded meaning.

                    Hawk is correct, the act of loving or even the noun love is consistent

                    Peace HP_TECH excellent post, because you give details and words of
                    the aspects of love (positive). Appreciation can garner love.

                    Peace Hawk.

                    Brother , do you think that there are different strengths of Love?

                    For example strong / weak love!

                    Also long term/short term love!
                    GOD bless you.
                    Peace.

                    Great question good logic, Again, is your question "can love be in degrees"?
                    If you define love as I do as a verb I would say yes.

                    As far as short term and long term love goes, I would say yes you can have both
                    short term and long term love. However what happened in the case of short
                    term love to bring it to an end, why are the actions of love (submission to Allah)
                    care, comfort, concern (for a spouse) Support belief (of an idea) intensity, attention
                    (to our favorite team) no longer geared towards that object, what happened, convinced
                    otherwise? lost trust? lost interest because (fill in the blank) discovered something disturbing?
                    Suspicion? Bored?

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                      good_logic
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                      Peace Hawk.

                      I agree.
                      In other words we need to keep working hard at "Love" to keep it going at the right degree and keep it long term.
                      Qoran is right, we are here to work hard .A lot of effort is required daily to stay out of trouble.
                      "Love" is the most important of all the other traits one needs to have in life.
                      GOD bless you.
                      Peace.

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                        huruf
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                        I have askedthis question several times and nobody has answered. It must be very difficult.

                        My question has been, when all thi talk about love is going on, which word in the Arabic Qur'an would stand for "love" as expressed in all these messages?

                        Please do answer.

                        Salaam

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                          HP_TECH
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                          #106

                          I have askedthis question several times and nobody has answered. It must be very difficult.

                          My question has been, when all thi talk about love is going on, which word in the Arabic Qur'an would stand for "love" as expressed in all these messages?

                          Please do answer.

                          Salaam

                          Hi huruf,

                          It's sort of like asking which Arabic word in Quran would best describe "righteous" there is not one word there are many different words that convey similar meaning.

                          The idea of a word in Quran maintaining a universal consistent meaning in every occurrence is a bit of a stretch.

                          Sometimes some words change meaning depending on context and other factors.

                          I find these set of roots

                          ha-ba-ba
                          wa-dal-dal
                          ra-ha-mim
                          ha-nun-nun
                          hamza-lam-fa

                          All these roots encompass definitions we have given for love in these messages some obviously more than others.

                          Why don't you tell us what you find sister?

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                            huruf
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                            I do not find anything, I just wanted to know what you were talking about. Love is like a catch all and anything word, particularly apt to allow moving pots around without end.

                            Salaam

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                              JavaLatte
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                              I've learned that love (true love) is not blind.

                              I think true love toward someone is the love where I can see (know, understand) why I love that person, and loving someone involves gratitude, steadfastness and loyalty. Loving another person is like having strong friendship with someone who walks on similar path - as if they walk together hand in hand on a road - they have a same/similar final destination and they support one another, seeking way to serve their Rabb and keep loyal to Him, and these two person are willing to forgive each other and listen to each other's dreams, feelings, ideas, and thoughts, thus they could understand each other in many ways.

                              Peace.

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                                IAMOP
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                                True Love is all that which leads to Paradise
                                If it leads to Hell it cannot be Love
                                This is because Allah, the One, the Source, is the Love
                                Denial of Love is Hell
                                Acceptance of Virtue is Love

                                This then has direct manifestations on the planet we live on
                                Love between individual servants is a subset
                                Love between a servant and Al-Wadud is the primary
                                With this Love then love between individual servants by necessity manifests onto the worldly plane (dunya)
                                This is intrinsic love
                                Love is for Creator first and foremost then Creator permits and forbids giving and receiving of energy
                                All other kinds of things going by the name of "love" are misleading
                                The only friendship is between people leading each other to Sure Witness of Sure Truth on the final day
                                This friendship carries with it Truth which is known by the nature of the discourses and actions which spring forth, being of an intrinsically purposeful nature
                                Discourse between souls of the nature of the implicate acceptance of the Hereafter is the only discourse that leads to Justice in dunya and in Akhirah
                                All else is frivolous and causes harm through the allocation of time to the shirk or munafiq, time which is allocated by Creator for the doing of good and for the cultivation of fruitive thoughts

                                All the pleasures are given through Creator's justice, pleasures of all kinds
                                This is because Creator is the Reason for Existence of All Things
                                All the pleasures that taghut claims to give or hold the keys to, Creator has already given them in full and with fulfilment in the heart
                                This is because taghut, shirk and munafiq/nifaq are rooted in attempt to deny Reason for Existence of All Things yet attempt to search for pleasure while denying Root of All Pleasure
                                Taghut - falsehood/oppression/injustice, shirk - blindly following others or oneself/idolatry, munafiq/nifaq - hypocrisy/self-delusion
                                Uncleanness masquerading as clarity is one kind of taghut - the body signals the feeling that something is not quite right - there is a trace of hurt
                                Uncleanness openly unclean is yet another kind of taghut - the body signals the feeling that something is openly not right
                                That which is natural, liberating, freeing, and of Supreme Justice, relaxation, tranquility, that is of Allah
                                That which answers all questions with the best of explanations leaving no further room for doubt having presented all scenarios and outcomes unconditionally loving and guiding to truth, that is of Allah

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                                  hawk99
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                                  Peace Hawk.

                                  I agree.
                                  In other words we need to keep working hard at "Love" to keep it going at the right degree and keep it long term.
                                  Qoran is right, we are here to work hard .A lot of effort is required daily to stay out of trouble.
                                  "Love" is the most important of all the other traits one needs to have in life.
                                  GOD bless you.
                                  Peace.

                                  Yes good logic I am not owed love, I must earn it, be deserving of it
                                  by "being" that which can receive, and "becoming" the person who it should
                                  be directed at. Not being afraid, humility, empathy, compromise and charity are key.
                                  Like paradise we who are tested must earn it.

                                  peace

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                                    huruf
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                                    I I were to follow my instinct, like an animal, yes, Man of Faith, like an animal alhamdulillah, my instinct, love or whatever, would be the instinct to die, to fuse, to attain absolute. All fallings in love are like sparks of the ONE light. We crave for it, but it is tooooooo much, so we must near it very little step by very little step, otherwise we will fall into may be emptiness, may be hell, may be nothingness. Love is the instinct for God, but we call it other things, a beautiful man, a wonderful day, the breeze and light of a may day. Love is beauty to the point of death. Love is ceasing to exist and be happy with it. Love is God's weapon to win us for Him and therefore for ourselves.

                                    But love is a word which now is very trivial and imprecise.

                                    Salaam

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