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    Q6304 - And when you see them, you wonder their personality, and if they speak, you listen to their speech. They were Musnad script wood....

    this is your interpretation, do astagfar as much as you can for changing the meanings of quranic verse , how dare you to doing dishonesty with the book of God, do you have any fear or you forget the consequenses of rashad khalifa.

    green words musnad script, nobody in the whole history interpret it like this , who gave you lisence to change the meanings of this verse, are you claiming urself a messenger or you have direct orders from God to change it like this

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      And if you saw them , their bodies pleases/marvels you, and if they say (talk), you hear/listen to their statement/word as if they are supported wood (logs), they think/suppose each/ every loud strong cry/torture raid is on (against) them, they are the enemy, so be warned/cautious (of) them , God fought them , (so) where/how (do) they be turned away ?

      Yusuf Ali When thou lookest at them, their exteriors please thee; and when they speak, thou listenest to their words. They are as (worthless as hollow) pieces of timber propped up, (unable to stand on their own). They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies; so beware of them. The curse of Allah be on them! How are they deluded (away from the Truth)!

      Pickthal And when thou seest them their figures please thee; and if they speak thou givest ear unto their speech. (They are) as though they were blocks of wood in striped cloaks. They deem every shout to be against them. They are the enemy, so beware of them. Allah confound them! How they are perverted!

      Arberry When thou seest them, their bodies please thee; but when they speak, thou listenest to their speech, and it is as they were propped-up timbers. They think every cry is against them. They are the enemy; so beware of them. God assail them! How they are perverted!

      Shakir And when you see them, their persons will please you, and If they speak, you will listen to their speech; (they are) as if they were big pieces of wood clad with garments; they think every cry to be against them. They are the enemy, therefore beware of them; may Allah destroy them, whence are they turned back?

      Sarwar When the prayer ends, disperse through the land and seek the favor of God. Remember Him often so that perhaps you will have everlasting happiness.

      H/K/Saheeh And when you see them, their forms please you, and if they speak, you listen to their speech. as if they were pieces of wood propped up they think that every shout is against them. They are the enemy, so beware of them. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?

      Malik When you see them, their good stature pleases you; and when they speak, you listen to what they say. Yet they are as worthless as hollow pieces of propped up timber. Every shout they hear, they think it to be against them. They are your enemies, so guard yourselves against them. May Allah destroy them! How perverse they are

      Maulana Ali** And when thou seest them, their persons please thee; and if they speak, thou listenest to their speech. They are like pieces of wood, clad with garments. They think every cry to be against them. They are the enemy, so beware of them. May Allah destroy them! How they are turned back!

      Free Minds And when you see them, you are impressed by their physical stature; and when they speak, you listen to their eloquence. They are like blocks of wood propped-up. They think that every call is intended for them. These are the enemies, so beware of them. May God condemn them; they have deviated.

      Qaribullah When you see them their bodies please you, but when they speak and you listen to their sayings, they are like proppedup timber. Every shout (they hear) they take it to be against them. They are the enemy be wary of them. Allah kills them! How perverse they are!

      George Sale When thou beholdest them, their persons please thee And if they speak, thou hearest their discourse with delight. They resemble pieces of timber set up against a wall. They imagine every shout to be against them. They are enemies; wherefore beware of them. God curse them How are they turned aside from the truth!

      JM Rodwell When thou seest them, their persons make thee marvel; and if they speak, thou listenest with pleasure to their discourse. Like timbers are they leaning against a wall! They think that every shout is against them. They are enemies-Beware of them then-God do

      Asad Now when thou seest them, their outward appearance may please thee; and when they speak, thou art inclined to lend ear to what they say. 4 as if they were timbers propped up, they think that every shout is against them. They are the enemies , so beware of them. "May God destroy them!" 5 How perverted are their minds!

      Khalifa** When you see them, you may be impressed by their looks. And when they speak, you may listen to their eloquence. They are like standing logs. They think that every call is intended against them. These are the real enemies; beware of them. GOD condemns them; they have deviated

      Hilali/Khan** And when you look at them, their bodies please you; and when they speak, you listen to their words. They are as blocks of wood propped up. They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemies, so beware of them. May Allah curse them! How are they denying (or deviating from) the Right Path.

      QXP Shabbir Ahemd** Now when you see them, their looks may impress you. And if they speak, you are inclined to listen to their speech. But they are like wooden logs propped up. (Empty of inner strength unable to stand on their own feet). They think that every call is directed against them. These are the real enemies, so beware of them. Allah condemns them. They are far deviated.

      its you who need to understand what this quranic verse is talking about ,this verse clearly talking about people and people are like wooden frame , not the script of quran,

      now i m doubt about your mental health .

      you failed fourth time its enough to disqualified you from any claim what you are saying,

      thank you so much for your evidence bravo

      i highlight it i doubt about your eyessight advice for you go to dcotor and get your eyes checkup it you who are blind , not only by eyes by mind as well,

      An ignorant man is he who has no knowledge, a stupid man is he who knows not that he has no knowledge, and a fool is he who has no understanding of his lack of understanding. The Quran gives much importance to the intellect and always addresses the intelligent ones while condemning those who do not use their intellect. The Quran also urges man to use their intellect in order to see and experience the truth.

      Only those who are deaf dumb and blind who only think they have knowledge but in actual facts nothing is in their brain. Thank you for showing me that you are a sectarian blind follower.

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        Q6304 - And when you see them, you wonder their personality, and if they speak, you listen to their speech. They were Musnad script wood....

        this is your interpretation, do astagfar as much as you can for changing the meanings of quranic verse , how dare you to doing dishonesty with the book of God, do you have any fear or you forget the consequenses of rashad khalifa.

        green words musnad script, nobody in the whole history interpret it like this , who gave you lisence to change the meanings of this verse, are you claiming urself a messenger or you have direct orders from God to change it like this

        Who gave the translators the right to translate the Arabic Quran, they were not even Arabs?

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          Who gave the translators the right to translate the Arabic Quran, they were not even Arabs?

          one word for you check mate,

          i tear apart you intelligence from inside out,

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            Thank you for showing me that you are a sectarian blind follower.

            rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

            check mate my friend focus your attentions on verses still not convince then see corups .uran and find me a word script there,

            yay i hope u will not find, if you find we will play again right now all of ur chess players including queen king castle night bishops are ripped apart . go find some more proofs and we will play again elektro

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              Let me tell you the story of Abraham. Now Abraham who was also stated in the Hindu Book of high dignitary, even god. He was called Brahma in the Hindu book.

              I don't think so.. that Abraham = Brahma is purely speculation..

              And what "Hindu book" are you talking about here?
              I never aware of a book titled "Hindu"...

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                one word for you check mate,

                i tear apart you intelligence from inside out,

                You are so stupid you did not realize that i was the one who torn you a part.

                Please carry on crying, i like to see a retarded cries

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                  I don't think so.. that Abraham = Brahma is purely speculation..

                  And what "Hindu book" are you talking about here?
                  I never aware of a book titled "Hindu"...

                  Abraham and Brahma were one and same person. Abraham was exactly 100 years old when Sarah bore him Ishaaq, Genesis 1721! It is an interesting fact that IN THE HINDU HOLY BOOK - The Vedas, it is also known that Abraham and Sarah had their first born when Abraham was at the age of 100 years old.

                  The names of Ishaaq and Ishmael are known in Sanskrit;

                  (Semitic) Ishaaq = (Sanskrit) Ishakhu = ?Leader of Shiva ;
                  (Semitic) Ishmael = (Sanskrit) Ish-Mahal = ?Great Shiva ;

                  The Ancient Ebla Tablet found in Syria in 1975, mentioned Abraham and Ishmael.

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                    You are so stupid you did not realize that i was the one who torn you a part.

                    Please carry on crying, i like to see a retarded cries

                    oh really, rotfl

                    i know its the matter of ego now , but ego hold no water in front of reality, not only you everybody who try to challange the words of Allah they get defeated very badly , i feel sympathy for ur emotions , but sorry for ur defeat hope so next time u will get some backup in ur defense, better luck next time, ignore

                    changing the meanings of verse is intelligence, &

                    ur intelligence is perfectly stupidity , what we say height of stupidity

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                      Abraham was a prophet so a human having normal life span like humans ,on the other hand brahma is believed to be first 'jiva' he is a 'devta' ,architect who builds all the universe with order from The universal god Parameshvara or the Eternal Para-brahma and also his life span is billions of human years.

                      Brahma and Saraswathi are divinities in Hinduism. If you told a fundamentalist Hindu that they were human, he will probably throw slippers at you.

                      i think somebody need pyscatrist. may God bless him.

                      according to hindus they got 33 million gods including monkey god hanuman,

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                        oh really, rotfl

                        i know its the matter of ego now , but ego hold no water in front of reality, not only you everybody who try to challange the words of Allah they get defeated very badly , i feel sympathy for ur emotions , but sorry for ur defeat hope so next time u will get some backup in ur defense, better luck next time, ignore

                        I was not challenging the words of ALLAH, in fact i was translating the correct meaning of the sentence. Its pertaining to speech and it is correlated with the script of the speech. i am not forcing anyone to take my words, is my personal understanding.

                        For mockers like you, ALLAH says

                        Q3010 - Then evil was the end of those who did evil, because they rejected the communications of ALLAH and used to mock them.

                        changing the meanings of verse is intelligence, &

                        ur intelligence is perfectly stupidity , what we say height of stupidity

                        Stupidity refers to those who do not have a mind of his own to think. By reading the verses without comprehending what its all about, without checking the rules of grammer, thats stupidity. By following blindly, thats stupidity.

                        Unfortunately, sectarian like you will never admit their stupidity, they only think they are the best of the best. Anyways, good luck to you and peace!

                        Just a piece of reminder

                        Q07179 - And We have certainly created for Hell many of the jinn and mankind. For them intelligence not they understand with them and for them eyes not they see with them and for them ears not they hear with them. Those are like livestock; rather, they are more astray. It is they who are the heedless.

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                          I was not challenging the words of ALLAH, in fact i was translating the correct meaning of the sentence. Its pertaining to speech and it is correlated with the script of the speech. i am not forcing anyone to take my words, is my personal understanding.

                          For mockers like you, ALLAH says

                          Q3010 - Then evil was the end of those who did evil, because they rejected the communications of ALLAH and used to mock them.

                          Stupidity refers to those who do not have a mind of his own to think. By reading the verses without comprehending what its all about, without checking the rules of grammer, thats stupidity. By following blindly, thats stupidity.

                          Unfortunately, sectarian like you will never admit their stupidity, they only think they are the best of the best. Anyways, good luck to you and peace!

                          Just a piece of reminder

                          Q07179 - And We have certainly created for Hell many of the jinn and mankind. For them intelligence not they understand with them and for them eyes not they see with them and for them ears not they hear with them. Those are like livestock; rather, they are more astray. It is they who are the heedless.

                          BLUE . lol are you language expert or gabriel come to tecch you after 1432 years.

                          RED perfectly suited to you, coz i represent almost all the accepted transaltions where nobody claim what you are claiming by your so called intellegence.

                          BROWN , my side its always peace and God bless you. only allah is best and best, rest of the tom dick and harries like you and me do mistakes

                          BTW i m not a secterian and this piece of reminder you need it, you are doing cheating and lying about verses not me, becareful .

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                            Abraham was a prophet so a human having normal life span like humans ,on the other hand brahma is believed to be first 'jiva' he is a 'devta' ,architect who builds all the universe with order from The universal god Parameshvara or the Eternal Para-brahma and also his life span is billions of human years.

                            Brahma and Saraswathi are divinities in Hinduism. If you told a fundamentalist Hindu that they were human, he will probably throw slippers at you.

                            i think somebody need pyscatrist. may God bless him.

                            according to hindus they got 33 million gods including monkey god hanuman,

                            So you believe Brahma and Saraswathi are divinities? Now you are going to throw slippers at me just because i believe they are both humans? You must be STAUNCH HINDU. HINDUS ARE IN THE CATEGORY OF SECTARIANS!

                            Peace

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                              BLUE . lol are you language expert or gabriel come to tecch you after 1432 years.

                              RED perfectly suited to you, coz i represent almost all the accepted transaltions where nobody claim what you are claiming by your so called intellegence.

                              BROWN , my side its always peace and God bless you. only allah is best and best, rest of the tom dick and harries like you and me do mistakes

                              BTW i m not a secterian and this piece of reminder you need it, you are doing cheating and lying about verses not me, becareful .

                              I am always careful unlike you sectarian, BLIND FOLLOWER

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                                So you believe Brahma and Saraswathi are divinities? Now you are going to throw slippers at me just because i believe they are both humans? You must be STAUNCH HINDU. HINDUS ARE IN THE CATEGORY OF SECTARIANS!

                                Peace

                                did i say they are divinities? thats what hindus claim, now you are changing your own statement first you said abraham and brahma are same now accroding to their doctrine they are not same, do you think there are bunch of stupids here, rotfl

                                red yeh obviously.

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                                  I am always careful unlike you sectarian, BLIND FOLLOWER

                                  yeh secterians are blind followers , but i m not one of them lol

                                  whats about you who is not a blind follower but you know you are cheating and lying with verses, and claiming something without a proof, and when you bring your proof it was not on the level of acceptence becoz the other side of your proof is totally different by experts. and then you claim its your personal understaning, wao bravo

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                                    BLUE . lol are you language expert or gabriel come to tecch you after 1432 years.

                                    Quran says use your intelligence, which obviously you do not have.

                                    RED perfectly suited to you, coz i represent almost all the accepted transaltions where nobody claim what you are claiming by your so called intellegence.

                                    Even if they are wrong?

                                    BROWN , my side its always peace and God bless you. only allah is best and best, rest of the tom dick and harries like you and me do mistakes

                                    Off course, that goes without saying, thank you for reminding me!

                                    BTW i m not a secterian and this piece of reminder you need it, you are doing cheating and lying about verses not me, becareful .

                                    Am I? What about those who supported the malicious sectarion translators, abusing the correct rendering of the Quran, people like YOU, deviating mankind from the right course! THOSE WHO SUPPORTED THE LIARS THEY ARE ALSO GUILTY OF LYING!

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                                      Quran says use your intelligence, which obviously you do not have.

                                      lol, my intelligence you already check. how do you now whats my iq level? or you are also guessing here on personal grounds ..

                                      Even if they are wrong?

                                      yeh they are wrong and your one is correct you have a certification from God , on your certificate it is to certify that mr hizbullah interpret 63. 4 in correct manner , issued by allah, do u have a certificate like this,

                                      on the contrary do u have a certification that all these translations are wrong,

                                      both options are open select anyone of it and prove where is the certification or your right and their wrong

                                      Am I? What about those who supported the malicious sectarion translators, abusing the correct rendering of the Quran, people like YOU, deviating mankind from the right course! THOSE WHO SUPPORTED THE LIARS THEY ARE ALSO GUILTY OF LYING!

                                      cant you feel funny here, every single words is saying you are lying and trying to distract the original meanings ,
                                      ooh my goshhhhh where i stuck today rotfl

                                      you need to get your haircut may be cold air will put some ideas on your bald head, i think evil hairs occupied ur senses lol just a advice ,lol

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                                        did i say they are divinities? thats what hindus claim, now you are changing your own statement first you said abraham and brahma are same now accroding to their doctrine they are not same, do you think there are bunch of stupids here, rotfl

                                        red yeh obviously.

                                        I wrote they were same person not their doctrine...check below

                                        Abraham and Brahma were one and same person.

                                        Abraham was a prophet so a human having normal life span like humans ,on the other hand brahma is believed to be first 'jiva' he is a 'devta' ,architect who builds all the universe with order from The universal god Parameshvara or the Eternal Para-brahma and also his life span is billions of human years.

                                        Brahma and Saraswathi are divinities in Hinduism. If you told a fundamentalist Hindu that they were human, he will probably throw slippers at you.

                                        i think somebody need pyscatrist. may God bless him.

                                        according to hindus they got 33 million gods including monkey god hanuman,

                                        Now everyone knows what kind of a person you are. Thank you so much for exposing yourself!

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                                          Now everyone knows what kind of a person you are. Thank you so much for exposing yourself!

                                          infact i exposed you, and your stupidity, sorry i mean your intelligence. and alhamdulliah i m successful in it. yay

                                          dnt try to apply my science on me , prove it braham and abraham were same person .

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