Proposal: A complete refutation to Sunnis.
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I think it would be fun to play soccer with fellow muslims/mumins from the online Quranic community in the future. Also, I think it would fun to go to a cafe/restaurant with fellow muslims/mumins and watch a hollywood movie afterwards.
That sounds like a good idea, Hiroshi.
I like it, except the red part? (=_=)-c<~o~)
Peace.
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One big problem with projects is people love to talk rather than do actual work.
For example, a simple thing that could have been done but wasn't, was make a list of Quran based islam resources we could use
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Peace Wakas and everyone else,
One big problem with projects is people love to talk rather than do actual work.
For example, a simple thing that could have been done but wasn't, was make a list of Quran based islam resources we could use
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602369.msg321144#msg321144I think that's a good idea. That being said, I think before we make a list of Quran based islam resources, it would be prudent to do the following
- Make a list of arguments against "islam based on Al-Quran." Then refute them one by one by using Al-Quran and historical facts.
I will get the ball rolling by sharing some arguments against "islam based on Al-Quran."
Some arguments against "islam based on Al-Quran."
- Early muslims didn't follow "islam based on Al-Quran."
- Sects are allowed/endorsed by Al-Quran.
- Extra-quranic Sharia (Islamic law) is endorsed/supported by Al-Quran.
- Verses in Al-Quran have been abrograted.
- There is no detailed information about Salat, Zakat, Hajj and Qibla in Al-Quran.
- Obey God means obey the messenger.
- Muhammed received extra-quranic revelation (wahy).
- Muhammed is the teacher of Al-Quran.
- Muhammed's explanations of Al-Quran to his people were timeless.
- Muhammed was better than all the other messengers.
- Al-Quran is not complete and detailed.
- The word Dua in Al-Quran doesn't refer to prayer.
- The word Hikma (wisdom) in Al-Quran refers to the Sunna of Muhammed.
- The word Sunna in Al-Quran refers to the Sunna of Muhammed.
- Al-Quran is not a Hadith.
- Al-Quran encourages muslims to follow extra-quranic revelation (wahy).
- Al-Quran endorses/supports hadiths that are attributed to Muhammed.
- Without Hadith we have no information about the life of Muhammed.
- Make a list of the teachings/laws/commandments of "Islam based on Al-Quran", and compare the teachings/laws/commandments of "islam based on Al-Quran" with the teachings/laws/commandments of traditional islam (sunni). By making a comparison between the teachings/laws/commandments of "islam based on Al-Quran" and the teachings/laws/commandments of "tradtional islam", we can show traditional muslims that "islam based on Al-Quran" is compatible with logic/reason/rationality, science, pluralism, human rights and women rights. This might convince many of them to follow "islam based on Al-Quran."
Some excellent resources we can use
- An article by Layth. The title of the article is "God alone." In his article, he makes a comparison between islam based on Al-Quran and Sunni and Shia.
- A book by Edip. The title of the book is "Manifest for Islamic Reform."
- Make a list of arguments against "islam based on Al-Quran." Then refute them one by one by using Al-Quran and historical facts.
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Although OP's project is a great project, I think there are many other great projects too. There are certainly many ways to spread the message of Al-Quran to others. For example, there are many people and some organizations that have portrayed islam and Al-Quran in a bad light. They have spread a lot of misinformation, misconceptions and myths about islam and Al-Quran. I think it would be prudent to refute their arguments. In my view, a great way to refute their arguments is by writing articles/essays and/or books and share them on a blog/website. I also think it's prudent to refute their arguments by engaging in debates/discussions online. I think it's a good idea to spread the message of Al-Quran to others in several ways and in several places. With that said, having scattered focus is detrimental. As a saying goes, "The Jack of all trades, master of none."
I believe it's critical to have a clear purpose before one decides to start a Quranic project ? whether it's OP's project or another project. Why? Because if you don't, you will most likely get bad results. You have to know exactly what you want to accomplish with your project. Because next to effort, your purpose will determine your results. If your purpose is unclear, you will be like an archer who tries to hit a shooting target in a dark night. No matter how skillful you are, you will most likely miss your target. Hence, you need to have a clear purpose. A clear purpose is pivotal to a successful project.
I believe it's critical to implement the principles/values of Al-Quran in one's life. But I think I have a far way to go in regard to doing this. For example, I haven't spread the message of Al-Quran to others as much as I should have done or could have done. Although I have tried to spread the message of Al-Quran to others the last few years, I have only reached a few of my objectives/aims. It appears that if one forgets ones true purpose in life, one will get sidetracked/distracted by things that have nothing to do with ones true purpose. From my understanding of Al-Quran, this divine/sacred book suggests that one should strive in the cause of the God, not in ones own cause. For example, if you strive in the cause of a political party, then you will use your time to spread the message of that political party to others. But if you use your time to spread the message of another political party instead, then you are no longer striving in the cause of your own political party. Right? From my understanding of Al-Quran, if one spreads the message of this divine/sacred book to others, then one is striving in the cause of the God. Having said that, striving in the cause of the God seems to take many other forms (e.g. being unselfish/generous and striving for peace, justice and equality).
Al-Quran suggests that the messengers of the God, spread the message of the God to their people. And they didn't ask their people for any reward at all (690, 10 72, 1129, 2457, 3621 etc.). From my understanding of Al-Quran, the messengers of the God were examples for us to learn from. In my lifetime, I have seen many people who speak highly of the messengers of the God. But in my lifetime, I haven't seen many people who encourage us to do what they did (i.e. spread the message of the God to others). In my view, by spreading the message of Al-Quran to others, one spreads the message of the God to others. Because Al-Quran contains the message of the God.
From my experience, one of the hardest things in life is to serve only the God. It appears that one of the biggest pitfalls in the quest to truth, is to follow one's selfish purposes aka personal desires. Paradoxically, it seems that the more one strives in the cause of the God, the more one furthers one's own cause (477). Therefore, I think it's for one's own good to spread the message of Al-Quran to others.
Last but not least, there are several verses in Al-Quran which encourages muslims/mumins to spread the message of this divine/sacred book to others (379, 16125, 2551-52, 4133, 427).
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peace TH,
Making a list of arguments against Quranic islam is fine, and thanks for making a start to such a list, but in order to refute them we would be drawing on resources/arguments/etc (from Quran based islam websites/articles/resources) thus linking to them initially is helpful. And the good thing about this its easy to do. Anyone who knows of websites, just paste the link.
In terms of spreading the message, the following are great and already available
www.AreYouMuslim.com (some non-Muslims even find this fun/interesting)
www.Learn-About-Islam.com (even has printout flyers, mainly for non-Muslims)
Print out the Study Quran leaflets and stick up in Mosques, where Muslims gather etc. No-one is going to object to that. Really simple to do.
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Peace Wakas,
I agree with your views.
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peace TH,
Making a list of arguments against Quranic islam is fine, and thanks for making a start to such a list, but in order to refute them we would be drawing on resources/arguments/etc (from Quran based islam websites/articles/resources) thus linking to them initially is helpful. And the good thing about this its easy to do. Anyone who knows of websites, just paste the link.
In terms of spreading the message, the following are great and already available
www.AreYouMuslim.com (some non-Muslims even find this fun/interesting)
www.Learn-About-Islam.com (even has printout flyers, mainly for non-Muslims)
Print out the Study Quran leaflets and stick up in Mosques, where Muslims gather etc. No-one is going to object to that. Really simple to do.
The quiz was fun - I love quizzes. )
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The quiz was fun - I love quizzes. )
It gave me 87% compatibility.
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peace TH,
Making a list of arguments against Quranic islam is fine, and thanks for making a start to such a list, but in order to refute them we would be drawing on resources/arguments/etc (from Quran based islam websites/articles/resources) thus linking to them initially is helpful. And the good thing about this its easy to do. Anyone who knows of websites, just paste the link.
In terms of spreading the message, the following are great and already available
www.AreYouMuslim.com (some non-Muslims even find this fun/interesting)
Question 3 needs to be evaluated
3. Do you believe there is only one true religion rather than elements of truth in many religions?
Yes
No
UndecidedThere are elements of truth in some religions AND there is one true religion 319 http//corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp?chapter=3&verse=19#(3195)
Cool little quiz though.
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MofF, at the end it allows you to click on your answers and see which ones you got "wrong" and why.
HP, the Qs had to be simple and easy. Q3 is primarily checking mentality/outlook. The concept of one deen (that which is due) is an umbrella unifying concept which can include various truths in various "religions".
I like the quiz because its quick, easy and somewhat fun/interesting. The quiz has been taken by tens of thousands. Results
Compatibility
perfect (2%)
extremely (14%)
very (52%)
fairly (26%)
slightly (4%)
poorly (2%)
barely (1%)
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MofF, at the end it allows you to click on your answers and see which ones you got "wrong" and why.
HP, the Qs had to be simple and easy. Q3 is primarily checking mentality/outlook. The concept of one deen (that which is due) is an umbrella unifying concept which can include various truths in various "religions".
I like the quiz because its quick, easy and somewhat fun/interesting. The quiz has been taken by tens of thousands. Results
Compatibility
perfect (2%)
extremely (14%)
very (52%)
fairly (26%)
slightly (4%)
poorly (2%)
barely (1%)
zero (0%)I see...it can be a complex concept for an introductory quiz.
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Peace all,
I would like to propose a community project that will not only help unite us, but bring others back onto the path of true Islam.
Sunni is the largest sect of Islam in the world. I propose we all research and compile a book addressing every single claim of the Sunnis and directly refute them.
As Martin Luther went around and tacked his 99 Thesis to the door of every church he could, we too must take initiative and bring our finished product to every doorstep and outlet we can.
As far as topics, we leave no stone unturned - Bukhari, Muslim, the claimed science behind the hadith, Shariah, the pillars, Qur'anic aspects, etc.
Qur'an Alone Muslims are still defined as a cult under Rashad Khalifa - to be taken seriously we must unite and put forth a single doctrine. For every subject we attack, we provide an answer that is universally agreed upon. Let's take back Islam!
Who's with me? yay
I am.
May our Lord guide us.
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excellent work these sites are really helpful
may God bless them all who are involve in the race of wisdom acquired by God..
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Salaam All.
I think atleast we should have a YouTube account.It is the most influential platform bcz u don't have to read plus audio visual has a very strong effect. Every Moulvi n Mualana from each sect have their channel and followers in millions.plz anybody with a good presentation skills come forward.We know this forum has immense talented people.If I have knowledge and skill to present I have done it by my self.But I can help in spreading the words also some financial support. Dr.shabbir had a channel but it's inactive.
Wasalaam.
