Real Proof of the Grave Torture:Real or not?

StopS

What I do in a situation like this I ask myself what information I have and where is this information coming from.

In this case, a private person puts a story on their blog. They add a photo. This is picked up and distributed.

Do we know whether the story and the photo are really related? No.
Do we know the source of this story? No.
Do we know whether the story is just a piece of fiction and was never intended to be seen as being real? No.
Do we know how the boy died? No.
Do we know how long the time span was between death and burial? No.
Do we have any facts which can be verified? No.

Could this be a hoax? Sure.
Is any of this plausible? No.

We know from medical journals that
"Putrefaction follows a predetermined timetable in nature and after the first 36 hours the neck, the abdomen, the shoulders and the head begin to turn a discoloured green."

That would indicate the photo is that of a dead body after a day. If this person fell from a building it would account for the broken bones.

Is there any indication the photo is that of a body dug up after having been buried? No.
Could it be someone who was found dead and taken to the morgue? Yes.

So it looks as though I have more rational arguments which would not point to anything suspicious or extraordinary here.
People love mysteries and occult stories, just like Bigfoot, Dracula or Nessie. Add a bit of guilt and you have priests, pastors or imams telling this to kids to add fear of the later punishment into their young brains.

spodacus

First i was wondering about this real or not.

It's about, a boy in Oman who died in 18 years old.After 3 hours buried, his father ask to take out the corpse, because the father did not believe for hospital's diagnose for the cause of his son's death and demand for autopsy.After the corpse taken out from grave, the father and others was very shocked after the corpse has drastically changed.

Without bla bla.I will give you the link

Site in english
http//vudesk.com/profiles/blogs/inside-of-kaabar-astgfirullah?xg_source=activity
http//www.naseeb.com/journals/torture-of-the-grave-pls-read-ever-word-carefully-158415

Site in Indonesia
http//adewinano.wordpress.com/2010/02/04/azab-kubur/
http//kugykugy.blogspot.com/2013/02/patut-anda-ketahui-bukti-adanya-siksa.html
http//jufniabiefawwaz.blogspot.com/2012_02_01_archive.html

So I ask you my brothers and sisters in free-mind especially from Oman and Midlle east, Is this proof real or not?

By the way thanks )

Salam, I think you need to do some investigative journalism. I am not an expert in forensics but the image looks greatly photoshopped to me. If you can find some reliable sources that would be great. Remember not to accept any rumors until you can verify them! )

David_Saidi

Salaam

There are some missconception of punishment occured inside the buried grave soils, but actually not.

Punishment inside the grave is just a figurative term, while the real punishment happened in the Barzakh realm
This realm existed between this world and the Al-Akheerat world, the word "barzakh" itself literally means barrier or separation, the barrier between this word and Akheerat world.

http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barzakh

Sadly some Quran Alone follower don't believe it while this had been mentioned in the Quran

"That I might do righteousness in that which I left behind." No! It is only a word he is saying; and behind them is a barrier (barzakhun) until the Day they are resurrected." (23100)

"They say Our Lord! Twice hast Thou made us die, and twice hast Thou made us live. Now we confess our sins. Is there any way to go out?" (4011)

Now from 4011, the God make human die and ressurected twice.Now guys you can imagine what this means....

After the human die he will resurrected in the Barzakh realm and face judgement in there
Then the human will die again and will be ressurected again to face the final judgement in the AL-AKheerat.

Now I will summarize the picture

Yes I believe if the body will started to decomposed within the hours and in some certain stages the corpse will turned into greenish especially in the upper areas (neck, head shoulder) after 24-36 hours.

At that stage the body already stopped to produce the blood and perhaps the blood became frozen inside

But notice the picture!!!

(Disturbing Image) http//2.bp.blogspot.com/-OUutUtv87KE/T0kPMdsUlQI/AAAAAAAAAJY/XkZKmL5nMUg/s320/siksa+kubur.jpg
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGVxdjmfl8A

The corpse still bleeding and it's least impossible if he been buried in the state like that
Second notice the eyes and ask the forensic experts for how can the eyes became destroyed like that with bruishes surrounding on it.
It's like it been beaten by hard material.
Also notice the nose is not normally straight maybe the result of beating.

There are another proofs of this punishment

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4NEFQK7DEk
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuTOAjJ5dy8
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-XCCxT7zjM

This is my opinion based on some facts and references.You believe it or not it's up to you

hafeez_kazi

Peace all

Before believing anything first confirm the authencity of the news. In the news there is only mention of of a boy (no name of the boy or family) then you find Oman which is a vast country and have cities, towns and villages for example Muttrah, Ruwi, Muscat, Nizwa, Sur, Sohar, Barka, Salalah, and many others. In the report there is no mention of any city, town or village but only OMAN.

Secondly there is no name of the hospital which diagonised the cause of the death of the boy.

Why there is no name of the BOY and the FAMILY?

Why there is no mention of the name of the Hospital?

Why there is no mention of the family's RESIDENCE?

If you see the picture you will find that he is lying on an IRON BED in a place which has walls and this cannot be a GRAVE. Did the family take back the body back to the hospital for rediagonising the cause of the death?

The clothes which remains on his person indicates that he is wearing an underwear. On the shoulder side you can see clear design on the cloth which indicates that he was not wrapped in ordinary cotton cloth. there are two black marks which indictaes that they are buttons.

I am an Indian and a resident of Oman since October 1985 working in "Oman Insurance Services" located at Muttrah al Kubra and resideing at Muttrah and I have never heard such nonsense story. Moreover no one can challenge the hospital's report and in Oman it is next to impossible to challenge.

The pro hadithers want to prove that there is torture in the grave so they fabricate such false stories and the maximum who are not aware of the Quran fall prey to such news.

Thanks

Sabeel_Ameer

We take religion from Quran, not from hospital records and photographs.

hafeez_kazi

Peace all

Every soul shall have a taste of death And only on the Day of Judgment shall you be paid your full recompense.............. 385

The punishment in the GRAVE contradicts the statement of Allah that recompensation will be paid after RESURRECTION that means second life.

Punishment in the grave means three LIFE whereas the Quran says only TWO LIFE, THE PRESENT LIFE AND THE LIFE AFTER RESURRECTION. THERE IS NO THIRD LIFE.

Thnks

Birdy

Peace with you all sun

may be he was buried and wasn't really dead. So he awoken in the grave and tried to get out? It happens, but it isn't funny ..((

Peace.

mmkhan

Salaam,

After looking at the photo, I was wondering how his ribs were not broken when bones of his hands and legs does? hmm
To me it is only a hoax.

May Allah protect us from making such lies on Him pr
mmKhan

David_Saidi

Ok thanks for the evidences guys,
Yes I already aware from the start if you guys will see it as hoax since it caming from nowhere,

But I want to ask something

"That I might do righteousness in that which I left behind." No! It is only a word he is saying; and behind them is a barrier (barzakhun) until the Day they are resurrected." (23100)

What is the "barzakh" in this ayat??

Salaam

reel

Ugh, there is again a need for rumor mill to prove rumors about the Prophet as authentic?

Pictures of the boy taken from
http//poetry.rotten.com/blonde/0002/

imrankhawaja

i think its hoax, cant be real

and about barzakh (barrier) is a state where the connection of spirit/character is terminated from this life span untill the day of jugdement.. body is just a waste after the death.

The_Guided_One

If we have 2 lives, than i understand, we get life on earth and die and than we are resurrected and have another life.

About dying i do not understand, if we die and we go in our grave, when is the second time we die? Because the people will have eternal life in heaven, that is what Allah says many times in Quran, i think it is mentioned most often of all things.