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    imrankhawaja
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    i watched a documentary regarding near death experience, it was quite matchable with some life but we dnt know what type of life will b that, like cautious or dreaming with reality, sometimes i also feel excited what will happen after death, so the afraid of death become less after understanding life cycle.

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      Comrox
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      Peace,

      Hearing stories of near death experiences are fascinating to me. I zipped the book too; thank you.

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        Salaam to all,
        This is very interesting for me... I had an NDE when I was 5 years old. I was involved in an automobile accident. It was my fascination with crossing the street that got me into trouble. I remember it clearly, the emotions and physical sensations. The only way I can describe it in my case was a feeling of being wrapped up in the clouds. Then I heard a woman's voice that was calling my name over and over again and it made sad and I felt compelled to go to her even though I didn't want to. Turns out, it was my mother's voice and I guess my time hadn't come. Each time I go under general anaesthesia and the nurses/doctor call my name to wake me, I feel exactly the same way... a reluctance to come back from that peaceful dreamless state.

        Regards,
        Janet

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          Man_of_Faith
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          a reluctance to come back from that peaceful dreamless state

          Who would not wish to remain unattached to this world permanently?

          I am longing towards the day I die and reach salvation, but right now it seems I still have things I must do.

          Be well
          Amenuel

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            janet
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            Man of Faith,
            you certainly have things to do ) One those things is writing on this forum.

            Regards,
            Janet.

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              Well, I mostly seem to upset people here, Janet. It happens so that I discovered that the traditional interpretation is a fake interpretation fabricated on top of a scripture that tells a different story and all of a sudden when I began dechiphering it anew Quran confirms basically all that Jesus teaches in the Biblical Gospels and also happened to confirm reincarnation and East Asian faiths, and it is not something I am doing because I wish to twist the language but it emerges as a context when I examine the language using ancient Arabic lexicons to help me.

              Also God is not using every other sentence to brag about how grandiose He/She is. In fact the word Allah is not even a name address of God but Rabb is. Allah means 'Is Who Is', basically.

              To say this is not making many friends -)

              Be well
              Amenuel

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                Comrox
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                Salaam to all,
                This is very interesting for me... I had an NDE when I was 5 years old. I was involved in an automobile accident. It was my fascination with crossing the street that got me into trouble. I remember it clearly, the emotions and physical sensations. The only way I can describe it in my case was a feeling of being wrapped up in the clouds. Then I heard a woman's voice that was calling my name over and over again and it made sad and I felt compelled to go to her even though I didn't want to. Turns out, it was my mother's voice and I guess my time hadn't come. Each time I go under general anaesthesia and the nurses/doctor call my name to wake me, I feel exactly the same way... a reluctance to come back from that peaceful dreamless state.

                Regards,
                Janet

                Amazing. Sounds very calm. But I'm glad you're still with us today.

                Well, I mostly seem to upset people here, Janet. It happens so that I discovered that the traditional interpretation is a fake interpretation fabricated on top of a scripture that tells a different story and all of a sudden when I began dechiphering it anew Quran confirms basically all that Jesus teaches in the Biblical Gospels and also happened to confirm reincarnation and East Asian faiths, and it is not something I am doing because I wish to twist the language but it emerges as a context when I examine the language using ancient Arabic lexicons to help me.

                Also God is not using every other sentence to brag about how grandiose He/She is. In fact the word Allah is not even a name address of God but Rabb is. Allah means 'Is Who Is', basically.

                Be well
                Amenuel

                You may upset some forum members here Amenuel, but I'm sure your words have fascinated the tens of guests that silently browse this forum daily.

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                  Man of Faith,
                  Life is all about testing the waters and creating ripples occasionally. I agree with your analysis of reinterpretating the Quran. It certainly does appear to support the theory of reincarnation and it confirms previous scriptures as well. You write well. Keep at it.

                  Regards,
                  Janet.

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                    ;D Me too Comrox,

                    Still lots of work to do apparently! It certainly was peaceful.

                    Regards,
                    Janet.

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                      I read once a book about near death experiences and it concluded that everyone sees what his/her culture symbolism and preconcepts made them see. It was just a reflect of group and individual conceptions. Christians used to see Mary and muslims Muhammad and so on... I wish this one is different

                      Also God is not using every other sentence to brag about how grandiose He/She is. In fact the word Allah is not even a name address of God but Rabb is. Allah means 'Is Who Is', basically.

                      how would you call yourself if your parents or the world wouldn't have given you a name? God taught the names (231 if I am not mistaken). How did He name Himself? Just "ME" ("I am who I am&quot. Am I understanding you, Amenuel?

                      Off topic again, I know.

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                        God's name or address is Rabb in Quran. But Rabb is a symbiotic phenomenon for those Who Are, so each is a "piece" which size depends on mental growth. "Sleepers" are not having any influence at all and could be considered the real slaves.

                        Sorry for answering to off-topic question.

                        Be well
                        Amenuel

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                          imrankhawaja
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                          there are different theories regarding near death experience,, some of them are very wierd,,

                          yesterday i was watching a tv programme in which a girl claim she had a near death experience when she was five ,, and after that she usually see the dead people lol,, but i dnt think so somebody will come back from barrier (barzakh) where all spirits are .. after expiray of bodyily life..

                          some people also claim near death experience is like they meet with their grandparents and they are very happy there and life is like in a blesses garden with happy atmosphere,, on the other hand a near death experience of a a criminal is like he was feeling himslef in a continuing abyss of hot fiery things,,

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                            I read once a book about near death experiences and it concluded that everyone sees what his/her culture symbolism and preconcepts made them see. It was just a reflect of group and individual conceptions. Christians used to see Mary and muslims Muhammad and so on... I wish this one is different

                            When I was an atheist I believed the same That what we see during NDEs is only a reflection of what we've conditioned our brains to expect. Now I'm not sure. You hear of stories such as the one here

                            The results revealed that 40% of those who survived a cardiac arrest were aware during the time that they were clinically dead and before their hearts were restarted. Dr. Parnia, in the interview stated The evidence thus far suggests that in the first few minutes after death, consciousness is not annihilated. Whether it fades away afterwards, we do not know, but right after death, consciousness is not lost. We know the brain cant function when the heart has stopped beating. But in this case conscious awareness appears to have continued for up to three minutes into the period when the heart wasnt beating, even though the brain typically shuts down within 20-30 seconds after the heart has stopped.

                            source https//bioethics.georgetown.edu/2015/07/consciousness-after-clinical-death-the-biggest-ever-scientific-study-published/

                            I've read elsewhere that the brain continues to function (at least partially) potentially several minutes after clinical death, but it's been a while since I've read that article. I can't seem to find it now.

                            And then you read of stories such as this suicidal person's spiritual testimony, on Reddit (Ex-Atheist)

                            I heard a loud honk as the train approached, I shuffled forward meekly and despite my diehard atheism, whispered "God save me" as I stepped off the platform with my eyes closed.
                            I heard gasps, a shout, I heard the train rumbling tremendously. I felt a clenched fist on the back of my hoodie, and I felt a smack on my entire body. I thought the train had hit me, and was too scared to open my eyes.
                            I opened my eyes and sat up- I was sitting on the platform and there was a man behind me, still holding tightly onto my hoodie. I didn't get a good look at him before slumping down in exhaustion but he had this glow about him. The street lamps were bright, very bright but it was almost as if this guy was emitting a light himself. The train didn't hit me; this guy had yanked me back at the last second and I'd fallen straight onto the concrete. I must have been out of it for a couple of seconds because when I came to he was gone.
                            People from all directions were racing over. I jumped up, and though I didn't want to admit it I felt so RELIEVED. My heart was pounding, I felt born again. Another chance. I wanted to sound angry, but when the words left my mouth I sounded pathetic, feeble "Where did he go?" I wanted answers, I wanted to know his name. People stared at me like I was insane. One woman was helping me onto my feet as I said this, and frowned. "Who, love?"

                            source https//www.reddit.com/r/exatheist/comments/3y24z7/how_i_found_godhow_god_found_me/

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                              Salaam to all,
                              This is very interesting for me... I had an NDE when I was 5 years old. I was involved in an automobile accident. It was my fascination with crossing the street that got me into trouble. I remember it clearly, the emotions and physical sensations. The only way I can describe it in my case was a feeling of being wrapped up in the clouds. Then I heard a woman's voice that was calling my name over and over again and it made sad and I felt compelled to go to her even though I didn't want to. Turns out, it was my mother's voice and I guess my time hadn't come. Each time I go under general anaesthesia and the nurses/doctor call my name to wake me, I feel exactly the same way... a reluctance to come back from that peaceful dreamless state.

                              Regards,
                              Janet

                              Thank you so much for sharing your story Janet. The cloud reminds of nurses reporting of seeing mists in the room after someone dies in it.

                              I read once a book about near death experiences and it concluded that everyone sees what his/her culture symbolism and preconcepts made them see. It was just a reflect of group and individual conceptions. Christians used to see Mary and muslims Muhammad and so on... I wish this one is different )

                              The Quran says we will stay the way we are even after death. I mean our views about the world and belief won't fully change. That's how we will be presented on the day of judgement. And so far what I have gathered from reading some of the holybooks is that they say the same things and all of them seem to point towards just one God no matter what the traditional people believe. What's funny is that when atheists pressurize the believers they end up somehow confessing that God is panentheistic which actually is the right description of him.

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                                Who would not wish to remain unattached to this world permanently?

                                I am longing towards the day I die and reach salvation, but right now it seems I still have things I must do.

                                Be well
                                Amenuel

                                those who fear their lord, and realise there is a barrier which, once we are passed, there is no going back, unless god so wills.

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                                  death is a level of game which is locked by game developer(God) so it must be amazing but people usually afraid.. reason is ego of self ...

                                  but its better to stay lovked its also Good for human nature if human being already know the age of death life was not cheerful like we live , even everybody knows already one day we will get expire...

                                  God created death and life to test among us.. so he created things with best formula , so its best to keep that level lock ,,

                                  but again the death is compare as sleep so usually when i sleep in this world that is actually best part of my day, my body feel relax my soul/spirit feel relax. my character feel comfortable , and my conscience feel so happy becoz without tiring it visits through galaxies like i m travelling with the speed of light , i see and meet people who i like , how beautiful the life of sleep is actually, and when we want to awake up we usually get pissed and even after alarm we want to sleep more...

                                  i still dnt understand for a beleiver death is a good news infact , his level is getting advance and hereafter life of beleiver is confirm far better than this worldy life

                                  peace

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                                    death is a level of game which is locked by game developer(God) so it must be amazing but people usually afraid.. reason is ego of self ...

                                    but its better to stay lovked its also Good for human nature if human being already know the age of death life was not cheerful like we live , even everybody knows already one day we will get expire...

                                    God created death and life to test among us.. so he created things with best formula , so its best to keep that level lock ,,

                                    but again the death is compare as sleep so usually when i sleep in this world that is actually best part of my day, my body feel relax my soul/spirit feel relax. my character feel comfortable , and my conscience feel so happy becoz without tiring it visits through galaxies like i m travelling with the speed of light , i see and meet people who i like , how beautiful the life of sleep is actually, and when we want to awake up we usually get pissed and even after alarm we want to sleep more...

                                    i still dnt understand for a beleiver death is a good news infact , his level is getting advance and hereafter life of beleiver is confirm far better than this worldy life

                                    peace

                                    peace, i think this is not a good comparison, as god did not create all this in vain, and computer games, are, mostly vanity.

                                    EDIT i.e you are comparing God to a game developer.. you know what game developers, for the most part are like.. right?

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                                      death is a level of game which is locked by game developer(God) so it must be amazing but people usually afraid..

                                      I've still never watched The Matrix...

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                                        imrankhawaja
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                                        peace, i think this is not a good comparison, as god did not create all this in vain, and computer games, are, mostly vanity.

                                        EDIT i.e you are comparing God to a game developer.. you know what game developers, for the most part are like.. right?

                                        first of all i did not compare God with anything ..... as i know there is nothing like God 112(4)

                                        i comapre this life as game... in which we all are playing our character... and this game is created by God...

                                        somewhere in quran God is saying this life is like a game or play... in which we get stuck like we will b here for ever ...

                                        peace

                                        let me recall the verse i will post it afterwards ...

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                                          5720 Know that this worldly life is no more than play and amusement, and boasting among you, and an increase in wealth and children. It is like plants that are supplied by an abundant rain, which appear pleasing to those who do not appreciate. But then they dry up and turn yellow, and become useless hay. In the Hereafter there is severe retribution, and forgiveness from God and approval. This worldly life is no more than a deceiving enjoyment.

                                          peace thats what i was talking about

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