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Are Malaika angels?

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    Taro_Hiroshi
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    I have already explained what "Islam" is!!!!
    Hindusism, Taroism,Shintoism...and many others can also be "Muslims".

    Taroism?

    That might be an awesome religion. Or it might be a scary religion.

    Anyway, let's hope that no one ever starts such a religion. ;D

    I'm just joking. I know that you were referring to Taoism.

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      Recluse
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      Peace Recluse.

      I have already explained what "Islam" is!!!!

      Peace good logic,

      I must have missed that, can you briefly repeat what a Muslim has to 'believe" to avoid being cast in an eternal Hell?

      Let's be more specific; I don't think most people in East Asia / Far East believe in God; will they all be burned in Hell for eternity, according to the Qur'an? Yes or no?

      And what about billions of Christian "mushriks" or "polytheists"?

      Obviously, according to the Qur'an they are doomed, right?

      Peace

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        Recluse
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        actually he did not read quran properly, if he read it then i think he did not understand it

        Lie number 1 .. How do you know what I've read or not, are we married? ;D

        in fact he was asking to us , God is not merciful becoz, he will punish people

        Lie number 2 .. never said such a thing )

        What I'm saying is this; if God is going to throw people in an eternal Hell for not "believing" in Him, then God is NOT merciful.
        Why? Because if you were Thai or Japanese, you wouldn't have believed in "one God" either, you wouldn't be Muslim now. Do you understand? Secondly, eternal Hell is an extremely unjust and disproportional punishment regardless of how many bad things one might have done...

        now he read God is merciful but he did not read God is best judge and justice as well

        It's getting funnier.

        according to him if somebody rape and keep raping untilk death approach him , God should send him in paradise with the angels having flowers in the hand , and say aww u did great job in world and here is your paradise becoz God is merciful

        Lie number 4 .. never said such a thing rotfl

        but problem here is this the people who get rape from that perosn, thay willl grab God and ask what is this, come on court God we need to appeal agaisnt this deciosn, this person rob kill rape us and u put him in paradise, Good show God.

        Sounds funny, but again, it's irrelevant...

        and about muslims christian, hindus or anybody else , they need to submit their will too their God /eshwar/ supreme being divine . and i think the basic teaching of all the religions are same. even the hindus pure hindus , know what real eshwar is, real eshwar is one , having no image, having no son, and eshwar never say them in the book to rape murder or rob somebody.

        And what do they have to do to "submit their will to their God" ? According to the "Merciful God", people who are not Muslim but do good deeds will still burn in an eternal Hell. Is it me or is it you who has never reflected on the Qur'an?

        somewhere in chaprter 2 Allah said the perosn who do good deeds and beleive in one god he dnt have to fear anything whether he is christian or jew or majoosi, matter finshed,

        Congratulations, you have now proven my point.. you must believe in "one God", if you want to avoid eternal Hell by the "Merciful God". Do you know what this means? This means that BILLIONS of Japanese, Chinese, Christians and others will burn in eternal Hell.... They don't believe in "one God".

        what will somebody do if infront of them their kids get killed or raped,
        they will dig their eyes out.

        Yes, billions of Christians, Buddhists and others who don't believe in "one God" will rape and kill people, Muslims won't... rotfl

        Again, we are talking about belief and religion.

        u need to understand the logic.

        Yes, very logical ;D

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          imrankhawaja
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          Lie number 1 .. How do you know what I've read or not, are we married? ;D

          ok i m adding more,if you read it, probably u did not understand it, if you understand it , you did not understand it fully.

          about marriage you cant afford to have a marrige with me becoz i will change the logics and maps of your body ,and you will finally run away, i hope in this way you willl have a trial of hell, rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

          Lie number 2 .. never said such a thing )

          What I'm saying is this; if God is going to throw people in an eternal Hell for not "believing" in Him, then God is NOT merciful.
          Why? Because if you were Thai or Japanese, you wouldn't have believed in "one God" either, you wouldn't be Muslim now. Do you understand? Secondly, eternal Hell is an extremely unjust and disproportional punishment regardless of how many bad things one might have done...

          seee you making me laugh know, what do you mean and understand by beleiving in God.

          It's getting funnier.

          its better you will increase your blood amount and laugh as much as you can , this worldy life is full of laugh,

          Sounds funny, but again, it's irrelevant...

          for you its irrelevent , for people of reason and logic its quite understanding.

          And what do they have to do to "submit their will to their God" ? According to the "Merciful God", people who are not Muslim but do good deeds will still burn in an eternal Hell. Is it me or is it you who has never reflected on the Qur'an?

          muslim is a title , good japanese can be a muslim , if he beleives in the system of God. and the system of God he have to check through books not through bluetooth tecnology. rotfl elektro

          Congratulations, you have now proven my point.. you must believe in "one God", if you want to avoid eternal Hell by the "Merciful God". Do you know what this means? This means that BILLIONS of Japanese, Chinese, Christians and others will burn in eternal Hell.... They don't believe in "one God"

          may be trillions, hundred trillions , ans so on, including muslims as well, being a muslim is not a gurantee to enter paradise untill they will not submit their will to God.
          .

          Yes, billions of Christians, Buddhists and others who don't believe in "one God" will rape and kill people, Muslims won't... rotfl

          Again, we are talking about belief and religion.

          refer to post above

          Yes, very logical ;D

          yay yay i know, truth is always logical.

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            good_logic
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            Peace Recluse.

            GOD has sent the same message to all humans. Yes all humans.

            We divided ourselves into religions/sects/races/tribes/...etc.
            Islam is a state of a "clean mind". A mind that follows GOD s message and accepts "GOD Alone" as authority .regardless of religion,race or nation
            http//www.total-loyalty-to-god-alone.co.uk/simple-and-universal-message/

            What you have now is a "mish-mash" of systems followed by "deluded generations" of rebels.
            It has always been "Abnormal" to follow GOD s system. Each generation thinks they know better, they follow their leaders and scholars blindly and ignore GOD s message.
            Now, GOD Alone is the judge of His servants( all humans). I do not know who GOD will save or not save. GOD is the only judge. If GOD wants to punish anyone,they are His servants and if GOD wants to forgive them ,they are His servants.
            So ,to clarify for you again

            1- Islam is not a religion.

            2- Do you expect GOD to treat the peacfuls the same as the wicked?

            3-Each one of us should worry about his own neck and try his best to redeem himself and "submit" to the creator.

            4-GOD judges with justice and fairness. He( no gender intended) knows the innermost of everyone.

            5-Those who do good and have a sound heart( Love everyone,are just,treat others in fairness and respect,are peaceful,do not hate...) are following GOD s message according to Qoran.

            Thanks brother, hope this helps.
            GOD bless you.
            Peace.

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              fye
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              Peace good logic,

              I must have missed that, can you briefly repeat what a Muslim has to 'believe" to avoid being cast in an eternal Hell?

              Let's be more specific; I don't think most people in East Asia / Far East believe in God; will they all be burned in Hell for eternity, according to the Qur'an? Yes or no?

              And what about billions of Christian "mushriks" or "polytheists"?

              Obviously, according to the Qur'an they are doomed, right?

              Peace

              Note certian deeds are hell worthy.

              The Quran is like a checklist.

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                imrankhawaja
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                Note certian deeds are hell worthy.

                The Quran is like a checklist.

                these deeds are murder, false oath of allah, disrespecting to parents, cruelty, and obviously assosiate annything with Allah, it will not only hell worthy but also their life turned to hell,

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                  fye
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                  Yep ALLAH has punished them beforehand and they were deserving the lost of their ways.

                  So when it how do you think these people end up in polytheism?
                  Prophet abraham thought deeply about life and creation he used to sell idols and collect offerings for them.
                  He knew they did not eat the offers he has probably eaten them himself.

                  Thinking deeply about life is a sign of intelligence, he told people the truth until they felt the world being altered but it was just their beliefs about it like introducing science to religion one explains the other those who deny science deny knowledge.

                  I think they earned it by rejecting knowledge in slow stages.

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                    JavaLatte
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                    Taroism?

                    That might be an awesome religion. Or it might be a scary religion. P

                    Anyway, let's hope that no one ever starts such a religion. ;D

                    Mr. Hiroshi,

                    Taroism is a tasty religion, P because it is a religion where its followers should eat Taro snack at least one time a day. P

                    Salam.

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                      janet
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                      Peace everyone,

                      According to "traditional islam" malaika means angels (female creatures with wings). But does the Quranic evidence suggests that the word Malaika means angels (female creatures with wings)?

                      Quran 37150 Or did We create the Malaika as females while they witnessed?

                      Quran 4319 And they have claimed the angels who are with the Almighty are females! Have they been made witness to their creation? We will record their testimony, and they will be asked.

                      Quran 69 And (even] if We had appointed an angel as Our message-bearer, We would certainly have made him a man - and thus We would only have confused them in the same way as they are now confusing themselves.

                      Also see the two different translations of the word Malaika in verse 351 below.

                      Shabbir Ahmed 351 All praise is due to God, the Originator of all Highs and Lows. He appoints His universal forces, having multiple functions e.g. message-bearers. He increases in creation as He wills. Certainly, God has appointed due measure for all things and events.

                      Monotheist translation 351 Praise be to God, Initiator of the heavens and the earth; maker of the angels as messengers with wings of two, and three, and four. He increases in the creation as He wishes. God is able to do all things.

                      Are Malaika angels? And do Malaika have wings? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts and opinions regarding this topic.

                      Salaam Taro,

                      351 Praise be to Allah, Who created (out of nothing) the heavens and the earth, Who made the angels, messengers with wings,- two, or three, or four (pairs) He adds to Creation as He pleases for Allah has power over all things.

                      The word "malaikatiy" is from the root word "m-l-k"

                      Miim-Lam-Kaf = to rule/command/reign, be capable, to control, power/authority, king, kingdom.

                      The word "ooli" can be translated as primary.

                      awwal prime, primary, primordial
                      original, initial, first; elemental, fundamental, basic, principal, chief, main; elementary; primitive, pristine, primeval

                      The word "ajnihatin" means sides

                      ajnu ,ajnia .jan pl
                      wing (of a bird. of an airplane, of a
                      building, of an army); side; flank

                      "mathna"

                      matny folded; plaited, pleated, doubled

                      "thulatha"

                      talta (f. talt) three;

                      "rubaaa"

                      Four and four; four and
                      four together; or four at a time and four at a time

                      These words put together create a different image than angels with wings. The laws/controllers (malaikatiy) are primary messengers created from the double (mathna) sided (ajnihatin) helix using three codons (thulatha) out of four base nucleotides (rubaaa).

                      Messenger RNA Carries Information from DNA in a Three-Letter Genetic Code

                      RNA contains ribonucleotides of adenine, cytidine, guanine, and uracil; DNA contains deoxyribonucleotides of adenine, cytidine, guanine, and thymine. Because 4 nucleotides, taken individually, could represent only 4 of the 20 possible amino acids in coding the linear arrangement in proteins, a group of nucleotides is required to represent each amino acid. The code employed must be capable of specifying at least 20 words (i.e., amino acids).

                      If two nucleotides were used to code for one amino acid, then only 16 (or 42) different code words could be formed, which would be an insufficient number. However, if a group of three nucleotides is used for each code word, then 64 (or 43) code words can be formed. Any code using groups of three or more nucleotides will have more than enough units to encode 20 amino acids. Many such coding systems are mathematically possible. However, the actual genetic code used by cells is a triplet code, with every three nucleotides being ?read? from a specified starting point in the mRNA. Each triplet is called a codon. Of the 64 possible codons in the genetic code, 61 specify individual amino acids and three are stop codons.

                      http//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21603/

                      And this is how Allah adds to his creation as He pleases. In fact, all living beings are created using the same principle.

                      Evidence for Evolution
                      For almost all organisms tested, including humans, flies, yeast, and bacteria, the same codons are used to code for the same amino acids. Therefore, the genetic code is said to be universal.
                      The universality of the genetic code strongly implies a common evolutionary origin to all organisms, even those in which the small differences have evolved. These include a few bacteria and protozoa that have a few variations, usually involving stop codons.

                      http//www.biologyreference.com/Fo-Gr/Genetic-Code.html

                      Regards,
                      Janet.

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