How to spread the message of Al-Quran
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Peace everyone,
Thanks for your replies.
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problem with public debate is so crucial,,
quranist by them is a sector who reject hadith, rejecting hadith mean,, rejecting messenger and rejecting messenger mean rejecting Allah, rejecting Allah mean they have a lisence to kill that person. in their first chance whoever get lucky to hunt down the apostate..?
but what i need to tell them , is rejecting hadith mean rejecting history, and history have nothing to do with prophet or God,
rejecting hadith mean rejectinf a persion scholar bukhari.
reason of rejecting him becoz lot of his statement are not in the line with quran and these statement are presenting a negetive view of prophet..
but problem in our society its very difficult to make them understand becoz 98% of them nither read quran nor hadith they dnt know the motif of quranist. they are brain washed about quranist that they are kafirs.. what else you will gona do ..?
now tell me is it wise to hug a possible death by telling them or debate with them openly... its like a suicide..
first everybody who want to debate they need to do their home work and understand what is the imporatance of quran infront of God and his messenger.
then provide a protection ,, but problem with us the very perosnal body gaurd kill the owner who speak against them or law.. a person who was responsible for protecting salman taseer killed him five years ago... lol and moreover he was big goverment offical,
we are not afraid of death .. to talk with them open debate but we know after that our lifes will b on risk.. thats what the problem with quranists..
its best to talk on forum and as far i see , there are always more than ten people agaisnt me including reletives and alhamdulliah ,, i never tatse the defeat on any matter they arrise.. and i find all of them quiet and when somebody really get pissed they start getting emotional and i can feel their deafeat from inside out.. which is a sign that they accept they have no logical answer...its a safe way to talk on forum and social media..
a Gift of God for the people who want to live in peace and also want to spread message of quran without fearing of gettiing killed..
if i debate them in forums i m sure if somebody come open air with me i have faith on my lord that if God wills no body can even harm a single hair of my head...but God is also suggesting me to debate them in possible and safe manner..and self defence first... and wasting my time on baseless debate and putting my life on risk is not a good choice,, and i have lot of things to do before i meet my lord .. the things which will help the society .. so the forums and social media is best advise to spread message..
there is no need of going open air try to make pages from unknown identies and spreads the message from the very best understandings you have...
peace
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but the most important thing i want to tell you guys..
after telling them every verse from quran and every logical reason , and every information regarding false history of hadith.. they still not get convinced , they accpet their defeat . when they have no answers but they never accpet quran as a single source and divinve law...
so my advise to all of my quranist brother instead of wasting time on debates we should start a charity system of some scholings where we can spread the message of islam not in secterian , but the way just to make sure the basic ruling of quran is there ..the age of schooling is the only age where mind is in a process of learning so on other words only a test of fire make fine steel only iron is able to cut iron..like a poison in cancer treatment is used to kill poision .. they injected negetive posion we will inject positive poison.. to treat the brainwashed and blind faith what is keep injecting in the generation from last 1000 years.. and purpose of making this trust is to help needy and help them truly by spreading the message of God , the same message which is being spread by all the prophets..
this idea i have in my mind from so long but i dnt have any support from anybody.. i dnt have any reletive or friend who is agree with my quranic views all are upholding traditionla islam..
we forum members can do it if we will help eachother... this is very best time we have.. lot of things get done online and internat and media is like another form of life.. we should take advantage of it.. if internet was not there we were not haivng this forum and always we think we are alone in this planet... now its time to shake hand and do something for religion.. gettiing died spending a random life is not atleast what i think.. we must find a purpose of our life why we are here..
great powers(wisdom) bring great responsibilites..
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I think it is a very good idea. Qur'an school on line.
I think also that we should shun running headlong into disparaging hadith. It is negative always when one is not the stronger to waste time attacking the oposite. It is better to push for what one proposes. That is instead of wasting time stating how bad hadith are, no, spend time waying how good the Qur'an is andhow extraordinary and how it solves questions and how it has been twisted to give it meanings far rom its text.
When people fall in love with the Qur'an automatically they will let fall anything else. Like trying to convince an inatuated person, he or she will beocme even more fixed ot he infatuation, best to pput i front of them a much better prospect.
Salaam
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I think it is a very good idea. Qur'an school on line.
I think also that we should shun running headlong into disparaging hadith. It is negative always when one is not the stronger to waste time attacking the oposite. It is better to push for what one proposes. That is instead of wasting time stating how bad hadith are, no, spend time waying how good the Qur'an is andhow extraordinary and how it solves questions and how it has been twisted to give it meanings far rom its text.
When people fall in love with the Qur'an automatically they will let fall anything else. Like trying to convince an inatuated person, he or she will beocme even more fixed ot he infatuation, best to pput i front of them a much better prospect.
Salaam
salaam huruf..
yeh actually huruf get what i wanted to say... jazakAllah sister..
infact what we missed in our childhood we will let them know,,
the way in which student will learn and ask by his own
let say we will explain him the same way the traditionl muslim teach us .. but with honesty not with dishonesty..
let say as an example,,,
students .. there are two sources of islam one is divine source from one single source ..called quran which is till date uptodate and it challanges the everyone regarding its calims and challange still standing on..
other source called hadith which is in the light of history came into market after 230 years of prophet death ,, and according to this history prophet himslef and allah himself never ask beleiver to accept it.. but early scholars make it as another law besides quran.. this source is compiled by this way.. by these people and these events are in it..
when we tell them like this which is true as well the intelligent student will automatically reject the source ... and will ask questions and every question he will ask he will get unfavorable answer...
on the other hand when we will tell them regarding quran with the perceptive of science literature.. and even dialouge.. they will get amazed about this book that revealed ages ago. they took interest in ti and inshallah future generation will also find out something from this treasure..
in the end i have a very interesting thing to share.. corupus . quran help me understanding this thing...
482 Do they not reflect on the Quran? If it were from any other than God they would have found many contradictions in it...
guys all of you as well just look at the beauty of quran.. according to this verse a language expert or philosphy expert can easily claim see there are many contradictions in it,, if the world iktilafan kaseera used else where in quran... even God know how to represent words .. i wonder this verse is the sense of contradiction only occured once in full quran.. for example if the same verse repeted some where else there would b two contractions(by word count) in quran...
i was amazed actually... however The root xlf ( ف occurs 127 times in Quran, in 18 derived forms and nowhere quran use it as contradiction apart from 4 82.
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The bans can usually be circumvented by using free proxies, e.g.
https//hide.me/en/proxyAs has already been mentioned, here is some really simple things to do
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602369.msg388589#msg388589Thanks for the info. One problem we have is that people who know the site will visit it through proxy. The keyword is not known to many others in the Middle East and of course, mullahs have been doing a great job of equating following of Quran alone with horror show.
I think Quranist need to do lot of home work before announcing their faith .i honestly believe that no Quranist can ever win the public debate .Here ,either they don't answer or they divert from the topic .It is possible only here .in public debates ,they don't have these choices .they can be cornered very easily
Provide proof of that please...a link will be useful.
after telling them every verse from quran and every logical reason , and every information regarding false history of hadith.. they still not get convinced , they accpet their defeat . when they have no answers but they never accpet quran as a single source and divinve law...
Some Quran followers don't either. It is very hard for some people to break away from the sheeple mentality.
I do not consider the debates waste of time though. When I first came to this site (unregistered) my eyes were opened by those debates. They made me see the lies and evil of hadiths. But I do agree with the idea of Quran school.
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Salamun alaikum i am new here and alhamdulillah! I am also thinking about that since months to connect and spread the truth. I don't think we should make it like a new religion or the true religion I don't like the term '' qurannist ''. We are just muslims and this website free minds is enough for people who seek the truth. We should maybe continue with the great topics and work at this side and spread the website. God is the One who guides people. And everybody of us should be careful what to teach and how to teach and start with friends, family, community etc. We could put that then at this website. So we can connect and spread the word and call and teach others to the right way. For example that's what I think, then it's really time for it . what do you think about it?
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What about
Youtube Channel
Fb page
Twiitter account
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There are already multiple facebook groups following a Quran based islam.
There is also the free-minds.org Facebook page already
https//ar-ar.facebook.com/freemindsorg/In my view, it is very simple to spread the message, only question is can a person be bothered to do it, see
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602369.msg388589#msg388589 -
There are already multiple facebook groups following a Quran based islam.
There is also the free-minds.org Facebook page already
https//ar-ar.facebook.com/freemindsorg/In my view, it is very simple to spread the message, only question is can a person be bothered to do it, see
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602369.msg388589#msg388589yeh its very simple but , in my case whenever i tell anybody about the real message of God from quran they look at me with strange eyes, like i tell them something wrong ..lol..
