The Problem of Evil
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Peace imrankhawaja
We agree to an extent, the key word is balance, the creation at this level is
composed of opposites or complimentary aspects which in turn produces the
reality that we experience. Outside of this life there is Jannah which is positive
or all good/bliss and jahanam which is negative and the absent of good.
In this life the two co-exist. To answer the question "why does evil exist?"
It exists because we live in a in a reality composed of the two extremes! -
Evil is what we do in ignorance and delusion. It is quite interesting actually that the most commonly used word for evil basically means darkness, i.e. zalam and it is because this is what you do when you actually stumble around not knowing what you are doing, no light; in ignorance.
Evilness is ignorance and it is anything which is not constructive and beneficial. It is mere imperception.
I can steal and hoard money, but for what use is it? Will my person grow?
I can murder a man because he murdered my brother, but what does it change? My brother will still be dead and the man cannot be more dead who was already dead (spiritually).
I can have sex with many women, but what benefit does it have for me? It pleases the flesh, but will I grow as a person?
I can worship a god, but what benefit is it to the god? Why will the god like it, does the god have primitive desires (like humanly kings)?
I can brag about my possessions and personal skill, but will that make me or anyone a better person? Will it not feed the instinctive call?
I can long for and be envious of my neighbor's possessions, social status and ability, but is any of it necessary for my personal development?
If you reflect everything highlighted above is zalam , i.e. "evil" or "is of darkness" (unenlightened). And many things may lead to another, if I am jealous of my neighbor perhaps I begin to employ dubious methods to acquire the same. Greed usually comes at the expense of another. And anything ignorant may be detrimental to yourself such as wasting hours in vain worship while you could have done something productive. Your Rabb knows what you need and how you fare without you even opening your mouth to tell, and Rabb knows how you feel about Rabb without your words
Be well
Amenuel -
Well, why would we receive more through worship? That is a question. Logically Rabb would not be emotionally weak and be better to us if we are admirers. It would only be through our works we are judged. And obviously Rabb knows how much we "worship" without saying a word.
I hoped you would realize such behavior of seeking confirmation of power is primitive.
Be well
Amenuel -
Well, why would we receive more through worship? That is a question. Logically Rabb would not be emotionally weak and be better to us if we are admirers. It would only be through our works we are judged. And obviously Rabb knows how much we "worship" without saying a word.
I hoped you would realize such behavior of seeking confirmation of power is primitive.
Human of the past could not exactly figured out the cause and effect of some phenomenon, thus they take an assumption / belief that everything is controlled / managed by a God and that God is angry with us.
No rain for few months, the rain God must be angry with us because we forgot to worship Him..
Prepare the ceremony to sacrifice the best among our virgins.. (as apparently the Rain God Imam saith the Rain God demands virgins to be sacrificed)..The next time you have problems with your computer, and you just couldn't figure out why.
Remember that it's very possible that the Computer God is angry with you.. because you forgot to worship Him.https//erikbuys.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/idol-worship-social-media.jpg
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Anger is an instinct, Jafar. If God is angry then God is not more advanced than a child learning to control behavior seeing how often God is angry in traditional fashion. Anger also leads to proportionally weak judgement and hence probably why you can see humans are perceived to receive the punishment of burning in Hellfire forever because they missed to "acknowledge the higher power" and worship.
Anger results in the wish of harming another if not handled spiritually by the person. It is as primitive as it can get.
Be well
Amenuel -
logically there is no need of physical actions done by any human to make God happy ... what we call our worship... to God .
people continously worship five time but infront of them they are selling drugs and and traffciking kids and women in some part of north west of pakistan where there is no law of law applied to humans called area under tribal control, this is just one example,, dn want to be rascit its just a example...
what i am trying to say a act oof worship really need human gymnastic to make God happy if we continue to do the action oon other hand which God really get angry at..
God did not require anything from human beings apart fromm the deeds which make this planet a peacful place thatts it...
its people who change the words of rituals or worship to physical worshipthe worship is to listen God and obey his commands like not to steal, not to rob, not to murder, and help eachother by wealth , sources,
dnt block the provision to someone which is bestowed to you by God... these things infact play a part to make you more close to nature and universal lord... -
Evil exists bro Zulf because Allah created it!
Allah is the creator of all things. I think your are referring to
characteristics of evil39/62 Allah is the Creator of all things, and He is, over all things, Disposer of affairs.
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Then what's next?
God created our weaknesses and sins, and rebellion and negativity?
So God forces people into Hell because he created them so that they had no option but to sin? God must have created the failure to do good also then.?
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Peace Zulf.
The question I will ask is why ?
If one answers because we are being tested!!! And a test must have 2 opposites( good and evil),Then the next question will be What is the reason behind us being tested?Why should we forgo a test? Is this fair?
Then comes what went on before the test? And what next?
Qoran has all these answers.
GOD bless you.
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Then what's next?
God created our weaknesses and sins, and rebellion and negativity?
So God forces people into Hell because he created them so that they had no option but to sin? God must have created the failure to do good also then.?
Peace bro Zulf, please re-read post #12. Allah created the parameters in which
we live. You forgot to mention positive in your post -
peace,
'we point out the paths, including the wrong ones'
how else would we see the results of wrong actions and take heed if they wete not apart of our life? god teaches us by way of examples, pairs, polarity.
evil is the result of us failing to uphold gods absolute authority, and here we have an oppurtunity to reform and return to our lord.
god created life to test us who would be best in thier deeds, by his will
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We tend to be "evil" in our nature, the Homo sapiens body and it is what Rabb created, hence Rabb created an evil character. Rabb could have created a character that does not have the instincts to act evilly, but the body is a test. It is merely an envelope for you.
It is the conjunction of powerful spirit and body that makes us truly dangerous though, if one lets the body rule over spirit.
Evilness can be more subtle too, for example striving for social status is too as the pack instinct causes the striving to have a detrimental effect on the society. All of these negative features are supercharged by the Satan.
Be well
Amenuel -
we can understand evil or negetive side very easily,,
somebody , rob me, cheat with me, do bad with me,
nw power changed and the game is in my hand, what should i suppose to do. i got option , to do same with him what he do with me or to forgive him,
the difficult way is to forgive him but the favorable way to forgive him and dnt b same like him otherwise there will be no difference between him and me, i got power but i still beleive supreme powers belogn to God , in my first prefrence i need to take actions which make my God happy instead of my self /character get satisfied by taking revenge,
infact revenge is a favourite thing of human ego and powerful tool for evil.. so i must take the option of forgive him not do cheat or do bad in return, not to rob even i get robbed hundred times...this is a difficult way but a strait way.
these two options are our decision which totally based on two sides of our self one is evil one is good..
everything is in pair... its up to us who we understand all this science of life...
peace
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We tend to be "evil" in our nature, the Homo sapiens body and it is what Rabb created, hence Rabb created an evil character. Rabb could have created a character that does not have the instincts to act evilly, but the body is a test. It is merely an envelope for you.
It is the conjunction of powerful spirit and body that makes us truly dangerous though, if one lets the body rule over spirit.
Evilness can be more subtle too, for example striving for social status is too as the pack instinct causes the striving to have a detrimental effect on the society. All of these negative features are supercharged by the Satan.
Be well
AmenuelPeace,
God did not create us with an evil nature, we choose to be evil by ignoring him/choosing not to follow him.3030
so set/establish your face to the upright obligation/system. the nature/instict/inclination of god, upon which he fashioned the human beings, upon it there is no change to gods creation. that is the established obligation/system. however, most of the human beings are not aware.
gods natural instict is not evil! it is upright.
animals are also not evil, or wrong (i cant quite explain what i mean easily) as many consider them. how can they be when they submit fully to god? they know their means of contact, and glorification.
EDIT prehaps primative, as if this is a negative. or as if we are somehow better than them when in fact they are doing what god instructs them.
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even the very first chapter is indicating two ways of spending life.... one is for righteous and favorable another one is selected by wicked and its for misguided ones
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That is wrong, Timotheus. The body has the design to be evil, corrupting. If we listen exclusively to it we will be like it.
It is the body that likes to imitate others.
It is the body that has wants that easily turn detrimental.
It is the body that enjoys social status and strives to have something others have not.
It is the body that likes hoarding.
It is the body that has an intense drive to copulate, sometimes irresistible so one is like a slave.
It is the body that likes to be proud over what one has, e.g. drive around with a flashy new car in search for recognition. It is almost subconscious.
It is the body that is the cause to become jealous.
It is the body that drives to get violent and enjoy violence and accept violence as a solution.
Rabb calls the world corrupting and designed to consume intentionally. One has to make a clear distinction between body and spirit or otherwise they will not develop. Even without that particular information it is quite easy to make it out using modern science. The human (Homo sapiens) instinct is the cause and that is what Rabb defines as Satan. And we should avoid Satan. Satan is more involved in our lives than people care to think and thus they fall to Satan unknowingly.
And scientists agree the human is basically a primate, an animal. We function like an animal fundamentally with needs and desires. Those desires can be dangerous in combination with a (deluded) spiritually potent being.
Be well
Amenuel