Wish you all the day of Eid be full of blessings that stay perpetually.
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Salam
We shouldn't celebrate eid. The verse isn't about Ramadan, but about the disciples wanting a sign from God in the form of a feast.
The rituals of Eid fitr and eid adha are derived from the hadiths (Sahih Bukhari book 15 "The Two Festivals (eids)"
Perhaps even the two eids are derived from hadith only.
Anyway, Ramadan is not the same as what the majority follow., It's somewhere in December. There is an article by Mr Layth on FM, but I can't find it anymore...Maybe someone else have read it too can link it?
Salam
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Salam
We shouldn't celebrate eid. The verse isn't about Ramadan, but about the disciples wanting a sign from God in the form of a feast.
The rituals of Eid fitr and eid adha are derived from the hadiths (Sahih Bukhari book 15 "The Two Festivals (eids)"
Perhaps even the two eids are derived from hadith only.
Anyway, Ramadan is not the same as what the majority follow., It's somewhere in December. There is an article by Mr Layth on FM, but I can't find it anymore...Maybe someone else have read it too can link it?
Salam
I personally didn't "celebrate" anything today, holiday-wise. It was pretty much an ordinary day for me. We don't need to follow any specific festivities, I agree.
I believe the article you're looking for is here http//www.free-minds.org/Old/articles/science/calendars.htm
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Fasting is about detaching oneself from this world and then people return from it by having a huge feast. How contradictory.
The feast is also a display of pride over finishing the fast. Better not look like you had fasted.
Be well
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Fasting is about detaching oneself from this world and then people return from it by having a huge feast. How contradictory.
I agree. I don't understand the point of making a huge deal out of the day. Same thing as hearing about those who binge at night during Ramadan and end up gaining more weight than at any other time during the year. It makes no sense.
The feast is also a display of pride over finishing the fast. Better not look like you had fasted.
Be well
AmenuelEspecially since supposedly abstinence is better for us, so why should we be prideful of doing something we should be doing anyway?
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It is one's discretion to accept and follow the injunctions or violate it.
It is a known fact that the tradition of fasting as a religious obligation as well as therapeutic fasting is in practice for thousands upon thousands of years of human history. But in Islam it is described by the word It is a Verbal Noun of verbs -. A verbal noun signifies an act and a state without time reference. Its Root is " ". Ibn Faris , renowned lexicographer stated
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The act and state of abstinence of activity relating to food intake and genitalia
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Fasting is about detaching oneself from this world and then people return from it by having a huge feast. How contradictory.
The feast is also a display of pride over finishing the fast. Better not look like you had fasted.
Be well
AmenuelWhat is wrong with a huge feast?
And no the feast is not a display of pride over finishing the fast, at least not from where I came from.How come you see in a lot of things negativity?
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What is wrong is that you kind of contradict the whole purpose of fasting. But obviously most do it because they believe it is a worship practice, so they do it for other reasons.
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What is wrong is that you kind of contradict the whole purpose of fasting. But obviously most do it because they believe it is a worship practice, so they do it for other reasons.
Most do it because they think Allah ordered them to do it, including the feast. Abstaining from food and drink has nothing to do with worship.
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Salam
We shouldn't celebrate eid. The verse isn't about Ramadan, but about the disciples wanting a sign from God in the form of a feast.
The rituals of Eid fitr and eid adha are derived from the hadiths (Sahih Bukhari book 15 "The Two Festivals (eids)"
Perhaps even the two eids are derived from hadith only.
Anyway, Ramadan is not the same as what the majority follow., It's somewhere in December. There is an article by Mr Layth on FM, but I can't find it anymore...Maybe someone else have read it too can link it?
Salam
Could it be that the two Eid's that we are celebrating has pagan origins, just like christmas got pagan origins?
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I don't really know much about paganism and their rituals, unfortunately. However, eid has it's own book in hadith collections called "The Two Festivals".
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I personally didn't "celebrate" anything today, holiday-wise. It was pretty much an ordinary day for me. We don't need to follow any specific festivities, I agree.
I believe the article you're looking for is here http//www.free-minds.org/Old/articles/science/calendars.htm
Yes that's the article. Very good article. Everyone should read it.
I didn't celebrate eid either D
Salam
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Wish you all the day of Eid be full of blessings that stay perpetually.
Thank you Mazhar, may you and your family and friends have a
wonderful Eid as well.https//encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbnANd9GcR9FCQWNxvioDSIOjBDI3xPZIlj3hfTkQg4DnSGJ77vRS_jUpqAmA
Let's eat!
eat
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Bender,
Then why do they do it? What reason does "Allah" have?
I said it is contradictory to gluttonously eat a lot of food over multiple days and it forsakes the reason they fasted in the first place.
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Bender,
Then why do they do it? What reason does "Allah" have?
I said it is contradictory to gluttonously eat a lot of food over multiple days and it forsakes the reason they fasted in the first place.
RED Like I said they do it because they think Allah ordered them to do it. There are also some who do it because they are afraid of being harassed by their family/society and some do it just to be part of a group and maybe some other reasons but the biiiiiiig majority do it because they think Allah ordered them to do that.
BLUE If they think Allah ordered them to eat 10 bananas then they will eat 10 bananas. It is not you or me who is ordering them to eat 10 bananas so that they can question us for the reason behind it but it's Allah Himself. Not doing it is equal to disobeying Allah.
GREEN They fast from food and drink BUT the reason why they fast is not food related. Why some waste food or overeat after fasting may be caused by hunger, they overestimate how much they can eat OR because they want to prepare for the next day so eat more than normal OR just because eating a lot has never been a sin or some other reasons. But the point is that the whole idea behind the fasting from food and drink was never food/drink related.
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nope The Eid is not part of the deen however, I appreciate you thinking for me. handshake
Especially for you I had this part "There are also some who do it because they are afraid of being harassed by their family/society and some do it just to be part of a group and maybe some other reasons but the biiiiiiig majority do it because they think Allah ordered them to do that."
I guess you missed that part.I am 100% sure you belong to one of those groups yes
Eid is not part of YOUR deen for billion others it is.
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Allah has never prohibited to have a feast. Allah forbids evil.
Celebrating eid is only forbidden when evil is involved.But those who celebrate eid will automatically do the rituals, and the rituals are found in the hadiths, hence it is sinful...
Also, the whole idea of eid al Fitr and eid al Adha are from hadiths...You won't find their name in Quran, but hadiths mention them alot. ALOT.
The evil in this is upholding the hadiths! (Unless you find proof in Quran about celebrating both eids and doing the rituals)
http//ahadith.co.uk/chapter.php?cid=54Read how many times they are mentioned.
Salam