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None will carry the burden of another

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    Abdul-Hadi
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    Greetings and Peace, all group

    Can people earn the sins of others, or do they only carry their own sins?

    6164 Say "Shall I seek other than God as a Lord when He is the Lord of everything?" And every soul earns what is for it, and none will carry the burden of another. Then to your Lord is your return and He will inform you of what you disputed in.

    528 "If you stretch your hand to kill me, I will not stretch my hand to kill you, for I fear God, Lord of the worlds."
    529 "I want you to have both my sin and your own sin, and you will then be among the dwellers of the Fire. Such is the recompense of the wicked."

    May ALLAH see fit to Guide all seekers.

    peace

    ~Abdul-Hadi

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      Peace Abdul-Hadi (and welcome back to the forum!),

      Greetings and Peace, all group

      Can people earn the sins of others, or do they only carry their own sins?

      6164 Say "Shall I seek other than God as a Lord when He is the Lord of everything?" And every soul earns what is for it, and none will carry the burden of another. Then to your Lord is your return and He will inform you of what you disputed in.

      528 "If you stretch your hand to kill me, I will not stretch my hand to kill you, for I fear God, Lord of the worlds."
      529 "I want you to have both my sin and your own sin, and you will then be among the dwellers of the Fire. Such is the recompense of the wicked."

      May ALLAH see fit to Guide all seekers.

      peace

      ~Abdul-Hadi

      Yes, we only carry our own sins.

      If you look at 527, this narration is about two sons of Adam. One of them said what was written in 528, and the other said what was written in 529. One brother was peaceful; the other wanted to kill. The one who said the words in 529 is the one who ended up killing his brother, and we're told in the verses following that he went to Hell.

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        Peace.

        There is another verse though that people will carry some of the burden of those whom they mislead without knowledge, on the day of ressurection, in my understanding

        1625

        just some observations..

        the root word a k r from which the word translated as ....bears the burdens of another.... is derived from means...

        go backwards, retreat/recede/retire, hold back/delay/postpone/defer, last/back part of a thing.
        Another, other, 2nd.

        (from prl online, check the lexicons if you will, and inshaAllah)

        it can possibly mean something different. in this case though, with the context it seems unlikely, from my understanding it seems to be refering to peoples concepts of a saviour (like jesus for example) who will take away all their sins.. no innocent person is going to bear someone elses sin. as God says that noone will be wronged in the least

        the context of the other verse i mentioned though, seems almost the opposite, in which a guilty person, causes someone else to sin because they mislead them without knowledge..

        God always mentions 'they will not be wronged' but if you mislead someone, you are the one doing wrong, by misleading someone, i would see that as just, if the one who made it up in the first place gets extra sin for everyone who followed them, but that is only my view

        God knows best though. please dont follow me, lest i mislead you without knowledge.

        Peace

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          yes no doubt, everybody will pay what they earn.. nobody will carry the burden of somebody else.. even in this world if you say somebody to do your work they will look at you with strange eyes..lol

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            Peace Abdul-Hadi (and welcome back to the forum!),

            Yes, we only carry our own sins.

            If you look at 527, this narration is about two sons of Adam. One of them said what was written in 528, and the other said what was written in 529. One brother was peaceful; the other wanted to kill. The one who said the words in 529 is the one who ended up killing his brother, and we're told in the verses following that he went to Hell.

            Salam,

            528-29 is the same person.

            527 And recite to them the news of the two sons of Adam with truth. They had both made an offering, and it was accepted from one of them, and not accepted from the other. He said ?I will kill you!? He said ?God only accepts from the righteous.?
            528 ?If you stretch your hand to kill me, I will not stretch my hand to kill you, for I fear God, Lord of the worlds.?
            529 ?I want you to have both my sin and your own sin, and you will then be among the dwellers of the Fire. Such is the recompense of the wicked.?

            If we remake to a conversation

            Son 1 ?I will kill you!?

            Son 2?God only accepts from the righteous. If you stretch your hand to kill me, I will not stretch my hand to kill you, for I fear God, Lord of the worlds. I want you to have both my sin and your own sin, and you will then be among the dwellers of the Fire. Such is the recompense of the wicked."

            Though the topic is interesting-If one kills a believer (or was the murdered son only a submitter?) will the murderer take the sins of the murdered with him? Meaning the murdered is guaranteed a home in Paradise?!

            God tells us the examples and narrations given in the Book are a lesson (right?), is this one of them?

            Salam

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