Please Help! Don't no what to do - I believe Suicede is my best option in mycase
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Hello,
So many questions and I am hammering on a smartphone during my vacation. I will answer a few.We are basically devils through our bodies which contain the instinctive drive. These are primates, i.e. animals and to them is our attached spirit seed (our persons).
Depends on how you define hell, but yes we are in hell (jehennom). It is a testing ground or development ground depending on which words to use.
Heaven is detachment from this world. It is a condition where one is, in tradition, called angel or maleikat in Arabic. It means one is a manager of affairs and dictates the future (the real meaning of prophet as they do not read the future since the the future does not exist yet but we create it together). The willpower and influence affects the "timeline". This force one is all a share of is called God in English or Rabb in Arabic.
Be well
Amenuel -
Peace to you Man of faith
I understand you are on a vacation so answer when You can.So if earth is just an illusion and play for a temporary time than where do we end up when we become Maleiket?
If earth is an evil Prison Illusion. Than where is or What is the "Real" world? And is it only for eternal enjoyment? Would that sound boring? As to just enjoy and...that's it?
What would be the fun of it? In a sense of "Challenge" ?
And what is the most True translation of the Quran? Basically the one that just states what it said in the text itself and not cleric and sectant interpretation of it?
Peace to everyone
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Peace WhatToDo (and welcome to the forum!),
Peace to you brothers,
I'm a sister, not a brother, but I hope you don't mind me still responding.
My English is not so good so I say sorry before I try to speak
Something happened to me that I would never wish for any human.
I'm 15 years old boy from Europe. And I go to a Football Academy, where I get education and train with a football team, but I also live there. Only sometimes I go to my family, like once in 3-4 months. It was my dream since my early childhood to be a football player. And I was always thankful to God for letting me know what do I want to do in my life from an early age. I'm from a respectful family and honor means a lot for my family and for me. I always tried to be nice to everyone regardless of race or religion in my entire life. Becuz I always believed that God is one, and he does not need a religion.
bravo
However something so crazy happened that Made my life hell. I'm really embarrassed to even speak about this to you.
most of my friends have sex but because I know that it is a big sin I sometimes masturbate to not think about sexual things. And 2 months ago I was masturbating in the bathroom.and apparently someone recorded it. I have no idea how, because I chose to masturbate in the bathroom because I knew that is the place of privacy. Maybe there secret camera Idk. But someone recorded it and posted on Facebook. I could understand that soothing was wrong the next day because everyone was looking at me and someone was smiling and someone was laughing when they see me.I am so sorry brother. That is truly awful and mean. You didn't deserve that.
I did not understand first when this was happening. I understood when I saw it on Facebook. When I understood the hole situation, my whole world breaker apart. I immediately thought about my family and my future in general. I never felt so much pain that feel right now. The police found the guys who recorded it but they only got 3 months of social work as punishment. However my whole life is broken now. The police deleted the video from Facebook. However it's like a virus someone still uploads it.
On other websites and then posts the link on FacebookThat's pathetic. I'm so sorry. group
Can you talk to the police again? Maybe they can remove the video from all sites completely, and/or file a complaint with Facebook/the other sites about it?
Also, have you ever told them off when they post the link? Does anyone? If they're not being told off, maybe they need to be. Everyone has masturbated at one time in their life at least. It's normal and natural. Just because you got caught on camera doesn't mean no one else in the world has done what you've done. (You're not the first one to get caught on camera for this, either, and you won't be the last. You're not alone in this situation and these feelings you are having.) Even babies, toddlers, and infants in the womb can discover "masturbating." I highly doubt that the people who are saying such against you are all "high and mighty" themselves. If they are finding this something new and entertaining to laugh at, they need to get over themselves. Someone needs to tell them that. I believe that you have the power to stand up for yourself. If you truly feel that you don't, you need a support system that will. I'm sorry your family and your friends are not sticking up for you. That's a shame on their part.
Even when I walk the streets people recognize me. I feel so betrayed. I do t think it is me who is bad for masturabting, I think it is the adult people I see on the streets that laugh and point finger at me as if I don't understand what they are gossiping about. It is them who are pedophilic for watching this.
I would agree with you, honestly. Some people just never grow up. We all make mistakes and all do things we regret. The people who are pointing fingers at you should think about what THEY have done that they regret, that they wouldn't want anyone to see, the next time they want to laugh at you. They should have sympathy, not smirks.
If they have to make fun of you, they must not think very highly of themselves. Bullying is much more a reflection of the bully (or bullies) than the victim.
Why do people say and think that I'm bad and deserve to die and gay ?
What kind of religious/cultural community do you live in? Is masturbation and homosexuality looked down upon? That would affect how they perceive the situation.
Don't listen to their opinions. You do not deserve to die.
But the worst things is that my family knows about this and I just want to die. It is feels like the video has gone viral because a lot of people react weirdly when see me.
How do you react when they react weirdly to you? I ask because how you represent yourself and react to situations and other people says a lot about yourself. If you're acting as if you're confident, you don't care, like you don't see that they're acting weirdly towards you, saying hello to people like nothing's happened - Maybe they'll leave you alone. Bullies can get bored if their victim doesn't react in the negative way that they want. If you show you've moved on and don't care about the video, they might stop caring about it as well. It will eventually become history.
I know that my dream of becoming a pro football player is out of question because in my case I will need to live a life of a low profile. But it is so hard to, because it is my passion. Those guys took my honor and my passion.
Your dream is not over! You can still become a pro-football player, I'm sure. Perhaps you might just want to relocate somewhere else to live out your dream once you're done with this academy. Or perhaps you can transfer to another academy and gain a fresh start in another area if the persecution from others is really that bad? You can continue your training elsewhere. Whatever you do, don't give up!
Why do I must be alive ? Why do J must my family feel ashamed about me?
Will God forgive me if I end this life?
Is it God punched me because I did not pray Namaz?
Thank you in advanceI hope you don't think I'm a bad person
No, no, I don't think you are a bad person at all.
As others have said, suicide is not the answer. I've been there. It's not. Remember that we are not burdened with more than we can bear. The illusion is that you cannot bear it, because you are facing so much mental pain. In reality, I believe you can bear it until the community gets past this. This incident, although terrible, will eventually come to pass. And I think what you choose to do going forward will largely affect how soon people forget what's happened here.
You sound like a young man with a bright future ahead of you. Don't let this one mistake cost you the rest of your life. You still have a lot left to live.
Peace and good luck my friend.
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I understand that I will die one day.
However was I someone even before being brought up into this world? Where were we?
Why are we here? In a place that is cruel and evil in its core?
Scientists say that even the oxygen which we need to survive is playing in a role in our aging process. One of our body's life force is killing us?
Is this world some sort of a punishment?Salaam/Peace be upon you, dear Brother,
Yes, every one of us will have to die one day. (=QURAN TESTAMENT, Chapter 21, Verse 35)
Yes, probably all of us were someone even before being brought up into this world,
(=QURAN TESTAMENT, Chapter 7, Verse 172)
and yes, we were in Heaven, living happily therein, serving our Lord AL-LAH as our One and Only GOD (=i.e. AUTHORITY to Whom belongs
all Praise/Glory and all Judment/Ruling =28/70).We are here, because Satan deceived our ancestors (=i.e. Adam and Eve, and all Humans who were with them therein at that time)
by promising them that Humans will be immortal and will be Gods (=i.e. Authorities to Whom belong
all Praise/Glory and all Judment/Ruling =28/70) if they question and reject AL-LAH as our One and Only GOD (=i.e. AUTHORITY
to Whom belongs all Praise/Glory and all Judment/Ruling =28/70) therein.
(=QURAN TESTAMENT, Chapter 20, Verse 117-121)And yes, each and every one of us were thus lured and deceived by Satan, by this false Promise above (=being immortal and being Gods (=i.e. Authorities
to Whom belong all Praise/Glory and all Judment/Ruling =28/70),
and consequently, we were banished from Heaven,
and AL-LAH thus teaches us what happens when HE is rejected as One and Only GOD (=i.e. AUTHORITY to Whom belongs
all Praise/Glory and all Judment/Ruling =28/70) and Humans are accepted as Gods (=i.e. Authorities to Whom belong
all Praise/Glory and all Judment/Ruling =28/70).=Welcome to Hell (=Social Injustice all over the World, Killing each other, Bullying each other, Murdering, Raping, Humiliating, Exploiting,
Stealing, Deceiving, etc. etc. all of us know human nature here; selfishness, arrogance, greed, show-off, jealousy, hatred, .........
the most cunning ones have always been committing all these crimes under politically correct manners as/if they are "civilized" patrons of the World
and the less cunning ones have always been committing all these crimes "plainly" even without any need to present themselves as "civilized,"
from the beginning of this World).So, indeed, there are thousands of reasons that would make us seriously consider Suicide every day and get rid of this Hell.
But because that AL-LAH is our One and Only Hope, we shall live each and every Day in HIS Name and HE will save us
and will welcome us into HIS Heaven again, for eternity,
when we wholeheartedly repent and return to HIM as our One and Only GOD (=i.e. AUTHORITY to Whom belongs
all Praise/Glory and all Judment/Ruling =28/70), here and in the hereafter (=QURAN TESTAMENT, Chapter 10, Verses 62-64),
always and forever, inshaAL-LAH.The Whole MESSAGE of HOPE & HAPPINESS is here
QURAN TESTAMENT
http//www.19covenant19.com/mucize_detay_id165.htmlRemain in peace/salaam.
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Peace to you Man of faith
I understand you are on a vacation so answer when You can.So if earth is just an illusion and play for a temporary time than where do we end up when we become Maleiket?
The condition has no physical form but one is ethereal. You could see it as that you are omnipresent (like you probably perceive God) and hence no fixed location.
What I know and rely upon is far from mainstream Islam (the sectarian religion/sect) though and more towards what they call Sufi. Some may probably call it heresy, but I suggest you evaluate all sources.
If earth is an evil Prison Illusion. Than where is or What is the "Real" world? And is it only for eternal enjoyment? Would that sound boring? As to just enjoy and...that's it?
Earth is not a prison that way. The word prison connotes punishment and it is not a punishment. Bluntly said I would say it is a "breeding ground" of the development of angels, in a harsh and deceptive environment (that some schools of thoughts called evil). True is though that the environment is designed to be corrupting (i.e. intentionally). We are like a seed of Rabb, like a share, but which is not separate but an integral part of, but to our person (which is the seed) was imposed a contradiction (or illusion) which is this world including the very body we are within. This seed can grow and this expands the consciousness of Rabb as well. This is the use Rabb has for us and Rabb did not create the world for Rabb's amusement obviously.
Everything in the world has a logical explanation including the purpose of creation.
The seed could also be seen as our mind and our soul and how we feel the world. What you experience in the world is part of your sensory perception whereof you have more than the physical one. In fact, the physical one is not your real one but belongs to a mammal in which you reside from which your mind receives signals; the strongest being hunger, thirst, fatigue and sex drive. It is hard to repel those and obviously the body will die without food and drink within a brief time as was "programmed". These drives can also be a huge distraction in life. We are driven to indulgence by the body and this we must prevent in order not to forsake our true identity.
Being/becoming an manager or maleikat is obviously an enjoyment, but not on a primitive level with ramping hormone fluids. Like your Rabb you will lack needs. You will not be limited by the lowly impulses of a primitive primate.
This world belongs to the reality, but one being attached rather than freed from it is not in charge of its affairs, or at least not in an optimal condition. A very powerful mind can still influence the "timeline" while yet alive in a body in this world. No one would wish for reattachment to this world being in their right mind, it is a huge handicap, and the release occurs when one can separate the soul from the flesh as Mr. Jesus once said and allow the development of the mind to take place. Release (salvation) occurs when a seed is developed and ripe, so to say. The unity of being (Allah ahad) will make certain you will join the realm (the Creator's Kingdom).
What would be the fun of it? In a sense of "Challenge" ?
Well, when you eventually figure out the truth of your pathetic condition this can be quite amusing to think about even if it is very serious business and your future depends on it. Knowing more than others is a huge confidence (iman) boost as well.
So far I have not considered the challenge to be fun in any way. In fact it is really hard. I have stopped to need constant entertainment though after I realized the truth. I try to get rid of needs altogether even if obviously as long as I am stuck in one of these things (the human body) I have to live with certain needs. We can instead talk about getting rid of vain needs. It is easy to get involved in vanity which has no practical affection on the outcome of your test. Entertainment as per primitive animalistic ways is vanity, your spirit does not need it. Look at the need for entertainment as a weakness.
It does not mean you have to become a robot though. Rabb (including those who designed the world) do not lack humor and you can see great humor in the design of many animals in the world, funny looking dinosaurs and even animals alive today, e.g. the giraffe, ostrich, many birds, etc. You need to distinguish between what kind of person your body drives you to be and your true person of the soul.
And what is the most True translation of the Quran? Basically the one that just states what it said in the text itself and not cleric and sectant interpretation of it?
Peace to everyone
None of them, bluntly said. Quran lacks a proper interpretation in its entirety today 2016, although I have started a massive project of research on its linguistics and have a rendition in its infancy available which involves only a small fragment of that scripture. And the case of how it is, was also already determined over thousand years ago and it was thus prophesied that Quran would be taken by people and interpreted as according to themselves which interpretation is no help so that they manage the test. I would say Quran's fabricated interpretation is clearly misleading and helps no one pass through. It teaches vain worship that no deity has any need for and its tone is aggressive which is not befit anyone of caliber. It needs serious revision to the extent that anyone trying must relearn the whole language by trial and error since there is no one alive today 2016 that can teach him/her. Fortunately there is a huge variety of corpus discourse available in order to help the one trying, but they can not look at any (modern) Arabic definitions given in order to explain the ancient (Classical) Arabic. It takes much due thought.
A hint and a clear tip is that the Semitic letters used in all Semitic languages have innate meanings in themselves and through this way a witted and wise person can be guided towards the knowledge of the particular language being tried to learn. Quran tries to hint towads this by the 14 so-called initialed chapters that the letters should be regarded as very primitive words individually. That they are 14 in number is another hint simultaneously. The 14 is because there are 14 groups of letters in the Arabic language and one should place all letters within those 14 groups.
The letters introducing the chapters convey an enormous amount of hidden data (riddle-like). For example, in chapter 36 ( Ye Seen) they also hint towards the prophet Isaiah (phonologically Yese'aye) who prophesied the fate of Quran and that it would require to be put in order, amongst other things.
Be well
Amenuel -
Salaam/Peace Man of Faith,
I always hear lots of speculations, promises, teachings (in some aspects similar to yours, also in some aspects quite different ones as well),
but I have never seen any "manifest/tangible/distinct Evidence" that could prove that those kind of speculations, promises, teachings
are truly of Heavenly Origin.
But because that this may not be the right place now to discuss it, so please, if you start a new Topic and present your
"manifest/tangible/distinct Evidence" first that could undoubtedly prove to me that the Text/s you are following are truly of Heavenly Origin,
I may have a serious look at it and discuss it thoroughly with you, in another thread, inshaAL-LAH, another time. handshakeRemain in peace/salaam.
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For example;
Prophet David (Peace be upon Him) committed adultery and was utterly sorry for what he did,
then when he immediately repented and returned to AL-LAH,
our LORD totally erased his sin, and made him wholly clean and innocent,
and made him stand up again perfectly as a whole new Person (=as one of HIS most honorable Servants and Messenger)
in such a wonderful manner.
(=QURAN TESTAMENT, Chapter 25, Verses 68-71)
(Chapter 38, Verses 24-25) = (TORAH, Samuel 2, Chapter 11-12)this is not true for sure nope
spend some more time my brother..
Salaam/Peace Imran,
even some of the most honorable Prophets may have committed such dire Sins (for example
also Prophet Moses (Peace be upon Him) committed murder and was utterly sorry for what he did,
then when he immediately repented and returned to AL-LAH,
our LORD totally erased his sin, and made him wholly clean and innocent,
and made him stand up again perfectly as a whole new Person (=as one of HIS most honorable Servants and Messenger)
in such a wonderful manner.
(=QURAN TESTAMENT, Chapter 25, Verses 68-71)
(Chapter 28, Verses 15-16) = (TORAH, Exodus, Chapter 2)I see these Examples above as the Manifestation of Infinite MERCY and Immense GRACE of AL-LAH unto each and every one of us,
and thus also True and Great HOPE for all of us, brother, in this respect here
(=QURAN TESTAMENT, Chapter 39, Verse 53)Whether we may totally agree on this first Issue above, or not (=i.e. that dire Sin committed by Prophet David --Peace be upon Him-- above),
but we may amicably and truthfuly discuss it, in detail, in another thread, soon, inshaAL-LAH.
handshakeRemain in peace/salaam.
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LastDay3,
There is tons of indications to its truthfulness.
You can always reflect on why the word for maleikat basically means managers and why there are such.
Your can always reflect on why the word Rabb means developer. The word "Rabbi" has often been seen as meaning something like teacher, using the root Ra-Be-Be's lexical meaning.
The word "Allah" is a grammatical construct of what we could call a "full root", i.e. Alef-Lam-Lam plus the attached Heh third person singular. Often its third person plural Hem is Aldo used. Frequently I have made manifest that if Allah was a kind of " name" or noun then its plural form would be Alleh - hem which means double Heh in the word. Now people claim that you say "their God" like which is grammatically wrong. The truth is of the word is its own word and the a pronoun. means "is being like" and the gives the "who/which", i.e. a pronoun that is used to talk about it, third person. Allah hence means "Who is" or "Who is being" + possible attribute even if Allah alone as a word means "to be being".
The problem is that you got to have faith in that this is true. Evidence is always a difficult parameter and particularly when a group of people in the past have systematically corrupted something. The evidence is in the soundness of the arguments and of course I am attenting to relate it in the best way of coherence. You can confirm it in past lore, but a problem is Quran is so damned misrepresenting in its current shape that one can be fooled the truth is that way.
We could make a thread or you can inquire me in private messaging.
Be well
Amenuel -
Alhamdulillah
All praise to the one , to Allah.
Brothers, this will be a long post. So I ask for your patience.
I asked my friend to write to you Brothers, in proper English, so that the language wouldn't limit my words and of course because you deserve the best treatment.
My brother showed me a video of a boy in Syria, getting interviewed by a Western Tv Channel right after bombarded. He looked around 10, he was saying that he was unconscious and that he woke up next to his grandmother or what was left of her ( May God forgive her and accept her ), he than said that all of his family and most of his relatives died. Yet, he did not even shed a tear on camera. He looked so strong. He just kept asking why? Why they do this to us? Why can't they love us alone? He also said that his brothers were praying to Allah when this happened.
When I saw it I felt so ashamed of myself for even thinking about killing myself. I apologize in front of you all for spreading negativity in this forum.
I don't know but when I was sitting and analyzing my life. I found a pattern so to say. I remember that since I was a kid I never found joy in things my peers enjoyed. I would never accept money when my relatives came in to our house. I always disliked when someone buyers me presents, sometimes even angry for why they did spend money on things that I can live without. Once I remember our relatives from US visited us and we're showing us videos from Them their hometown. While watching them I felt so sad. I went into my room and cried for them. I just felt really sad for them, I can't remember now as to why? What was the reason?
Oh, you are so blessed my dear brother. You observe the world like a mature person. I was way too immature to get lessons from other people's lives when I was 15. One of my cousins once told us that there are two kinds of sorrows in this world. The first one can be controlled and the second one is uncontrollable. He lost his father that time. So the second kind of sorrow was a reflection of that. Now I know what this means. That said, sometimes some controllable sorrows do overwhelm us. Patience and praying to God for strength are the two cures for it. You didn't spread negativity. Probably, many among us had that suicide thought when we were of your age. Some adults around me still talk about it when the pressure is too much to take.But one pattern I'm sure of. That whenever I saw someone do something Illogical/Useless or Sinfull as religious people might say. Got me into big troubles. Even though people around me do them all the time. It is as if when I try to do something to feel as other act Angry/Arrogant/Unlogical/Young/Using emotion rather reason, I got a big punch from the Universe as to not do it again.
I remember when I was a kid I constantly got bullied and I never gave aggression back. Always avoided conflicts wanted to be friends with everyone. However once I decided to imitate my other classmates and I punched my bully back however he fell into a bookshelf which had glass doors. And by trying to copy others my Mom ended up paying 50 Turkish Liras. Which was a lot of money at that point of our life's because we were illegal immigrants running from a Military Conflict in my native country.
And there are q lot of examples of this phenomenon in my life.I only felt an attachment to this world when I started playing Football. And now it looks like as if maybe God/Allah/TheOne is telling me something.
Oh, you are so blessed my dear brother. You observe the world like a mature person. I was way too immature to get lessons from other people's lives when I was 15. One of my cousins once told us that there are two kinds of sorrows in this world. The first one can be controlled and the second one is uncontrollable. He lost his father that time. So the second kind of sorrow was a reflection of that. Now I know what this means. That said, sometimes some controllable sorrows do overwhelm us. Patience and praying to God for strength are the two cures for it. You didn't spread negativity. Probably, many among us had that suicide thought when we were of your age. Some adults around me still talk about it when the pressure is too much to take. But yeah, teen years are sensitive. This is when we tend to be hurt by what others do or say about us. Perhaps, it has something to do with hormonal change, but, it tends to be challenging. Lol, after hitting 20s and traveling a bit, I learned it is universal. So hang on. There is a high possibility that there is a lesson in what happened. Passion is one step closer to achievement and in sports, brutality seems to rule the day. I loved playing tennis, but my heart was stolen by archery. I decided to not go into any of them simply because I found our coaches hotheaded. One of them kept encouraging me to join his team. I refused out of fear. As per my observation, life in sports is rough. So maybe this is one way Allah is preparing you for what is coming? One needs a lot of strength to face the brutal bullies and ongoing unnecessary criticisms of public.
Don't worry about frowning upon those who have a need to show off or not wanting anything from anyone. You are just an independent person with the urge to do your own thing in your own way. In short, you lean towards being original, but by keeping your head in check. You won't do well if you try to go with the flow. It will make you just feel like you are losing yourself.
I understand that I will die one day. However was I someone even before being brought up into this world? Where were we? Why are we here? In a place that is cruel and evil in its core? Scientists say that even the oxygen which we need to survive is playing in a role in our aging process. One of our body's life force is killing us? Is this world some sort of a punishment?
In the book of Revelations it says that number of beast is the number of man, and that its 666.
As I know the Hydrogen atom consists of 6 Protons x 6 Electrons x 6 Neutrons. And it is one of the biggest life blocks of this existence we call the world. So the work around us and we ourselves are the Beasts? Are we the Devils ? Are we already in Hell? Because I know that no human being would agree that this place is Heaven. Can we make it a Heaven? Or something close to it? Are we selfish by just waiting and hoping to go to Heaven? Why don't we try to bring heaven on earth?
Didn't God say that he put Adam as his Representatives?Because as I understand when God says that all the things prostates to him, it means that everything around us is working by laws of God. Laws of Physics, Chemistry, Bilogy, Never would a vertically falling rock stop in mid air and say " Oh, I don't really want to Obey the creator today, so let me fly to the left instea". Because as I understand it always obeys the Creator and his laws. As God created everything, Logically we too have laws that we must obey and submit too right? And by doing that doesn't God tells us that He will give the submitters to his law, growth and security? So the world is like a playground for us for us to manifest gods will? All this would make sense if it wasn't for a thing called Death. Because of this phenomenon, I cannot decipher the reality In living in.
And brothers as I don't know Arabic I tried to read the Quran in different translations but as one can see already there are so many interpretations of this One Same book, that sometimes it sounds like a whole different book to read. And the hell Heaven interpretations I'm getting today just don't make sense to me. I'm sorry. Of course God knows the Best. However he gave me a Mind right? Doesn't an ayat Say that one shouldn't believe something without comprehending it first? I cannot find the exact ayat, Let Allah forgive me if I say something that is not true.
Let's even say that the official lore is true, what if My mother will end up in Heaven and I will end up in Hell, would my Mother be at peace in Heaven?
Is there concrete answers? Why are there so many uncertenties/interpretations around One book? Which says that it is written so that it easily understandble?
Hope you are all well
I'm eager to know more about the Reality/The Truth
Adam's ancestors were ferocious. So originally we were like animals. The traits still remain in us like parasites. God tells us to have control over them because they take us back to where we came from (the wild). If you notice all the laws in Quran you will find that they are leaned towards making us civilized and organized. When men forget these laws they turn into beasts as well as preys destroying one another. As for the multiple interpretations, almost all holybooks of the world suffer from this and it is merely part of the test and time.
However, if you approach the Quran by keeping in the mind that God wants us to move forward instead of backward then you will start to get the laws better. You are already mindful of signs you see in your environment. This is what works as one of the tools to knowing what God tells us to do.
Welcome to the forum.
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For example;
Prophet David (Peace be upon Him) committed adultery and was utterly sorry for what he did,
then when he immediately repented and returned to AL-LAH,
our LORD totally erased his sin, and made him wholly clean and innocent,
and made him stand up again perfectly as a whole new Person (=as one of HIS most honorable Servants and Messenger)
in such a wonderful manner.
(=QURAN TESTAMENT, Chapter 25, Verses 68-71)
(Chapter 38, Verses 24-25) = (TORAH, Samuel 2, Chapter 11-12)peace last day
quran 25/ 68-71 , sorry to say david is not there in the verses... these verses are for every beleiver in advise mode.. david is absent there
and now come on other reference
3824 He said "He has wronged you by asking to combine your lamb with his lambs. And many who mix their properties take advantage of one another, except those who believe and do good works, and these are very few." And David guessed that We had tested him, so he sought forgiveness from his Lord, and fell down kneeling, and repented.
3825 So We forgave him in this matter. And for him with Us is a near position, and a beautiful abode.
3826 O David, We have made you a successor on the earth. Therefore, you shall judge among the people with the truth, and do not follow desire, lest it diverts you from the path of God. Indeed, those who stray off the path of God will have a severe retribution for forgetting the Day of Reckoning.
clearly the quran is telling us it was a wrong judgement based on desire of apparent findings.. thats what we usually do in our daily life if someone comes up with his sorrow and tell us things against the family at the first we think its wrong .. but after a while we get to know the fammily is doing right becoz he is druggee , gambler wasted all the money there so no more favors to him becoz they know he will waste..
my brother be careful about your words ...
rest of the messengers we will discuss in other threads...
moses killed a person accidently but it was a mistake not a sin.. there is a difference between mistake and sin..
at first he should not hit someone becoz God advising us to be humble , he breaks the rule but he was not about to kill that person accidently he get killed and moses suffered a lot due to this ..
and open a new threads the sins of prophets and we will discuss it there..
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as far i know apart from younas , nobody did something which make God angry but again he repented and God forgive him.. even it was not a sin it was disobedience , he was not about to leave the town but he left it wothout the permisiion of God.. and soon he realsied he did something wrong... he did not harm annybody just he wronged himself...
even the event most of the people describe here address prophet muhammed regarding fawned , its not address to him its address to the person who was in the same gathering and i m opening a new thread you guys have a look into it we will discuss there in detail...
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LastDay3,
There is tons of indications to its truthfulness.
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................Salaam/Peace Man of Faith,
"indication" is a very weak/subjective/blurry/shaky/deceptive term to me, especially when it is used without presenting any "manifest/tangible/distinct Evidence"
that would clearly and unmistakably show the Heavenly Origin of an Instruction/Text/Teaching, first of all, dear friend Man of Faith.
handshakeSo, due to the Fact that exclusively and only QURAN can give me that "manifest/tangible/distinct Evidence"
I have been searching for in my whole life,http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608585.0
that is why it is the One and Only Instruction/Text/Teaching, I take it so seriously and I believe in it wholeheartedly.
I have seen and heard (and continue to see and hear) many other (old or new) Religious Instructions/Texts/Teachings, all of them always claim
to be full of "indications" to their truthfulness, without presenting any "manifest/tangible/distinct Evidence," first of all.In this Age of Science and Technology and "Mathematics" that is clearly and unmistakably witnessed in both
as a deeply embedded Fundamental Property of our whole Universe & Nature, even from the very beginning,NOVA The Great Math Mystery PBS
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocq8OR4OydQand so, (old or new) any Religious Doctrine/Instruction/Teaching that does not even bother itself presenting any such "manifest/tangible/distinct (Scientific/Mathematic) Evidences"
--(as QURAN unmistakably and clearly presents it above)-- that could absolutely show that they are truly of Heavenly Origin, first of all,
are absolutely Not worthy of a serious consideration, for me, even in the first place, and not at all.will continue later on, inshaAL-LAH.
handshakeRemain in peace/salaam.
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Peace,
God gave you a taste of the results of your sin, He exposed your shame, now, you are much better to have that shame exposed in this life, and to repent to God and purify yourself from such things, that prehaps you might be saved.
I would not recomend suicide, and you will certainly go to hell if you intentionaly kill yourself, as that is the ultimate act of ingratitude, and a horrendous sin.
Peace be upon you, and may God show mercy to you and heal you.
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Peace,
God gave you a taste of the results of your sin, He exposed your shame, now, you are much better to have that shame exposed in this life,
peace brother,
two things.. first you need to talk with somebody in appropriate manner.. he is already in a situation so politeness is the key..
second thing why are you blaming God for this... the guy who recorded video do you think its the God plan to wrong people..or its God who let people go astray... if it the case prove me a single person who did not do mastarbution... ?
and why did not all get recorded ?
contradiction vs contradiction...
peace
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peace brother,
two things.. first you need to talk with somebody in appropriate manner.. he is already in a situation so politeness is the key..
second thing why are you blaming God for this... the guy who recorded video do you think its the God plan to wrong people..or its God who let people go astray... if it the case prove me a single person who did not do mastarbution... ?
and why did not all get recorded ?
contradiction vs contradiction...
peace
Peace,
I speak things how they are, im not going to sugarcoat the truth, if someone is put in a situation like that, they feel ashamed..God does not wrong people, it is them who wrong themselves.
God is in control of everything, nothing happens except by his permission... etc
God tests us all in individual ways, and he lets us taste some of the evil of our deeds so that we may return.
I do realy not desire to argue with you in any matter, because in my experience it seems like you just wish to critisise me, and yet i ask you to produce proof, and you cant. all my views are based on the quran alone, and i can produce the evidence to back them up, God willing, to the best of my ability.
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Peace,
I speak things how they are, im not going to sugarcoat the truth, if someone is put in a situation like that, they feel ashamed..God does not wrong people, it is them who wrong themselves.
God is in control of everything, nothing happens except by his permission... etc
God tests us all in individual ways, and he lets us taste some of the evil of our deeds so that we may return.
I do realy not desire to argue with you in any matter, because in my experience it seems like you just wish to critisise me, and yet i ask you to produce proof, and you cant. all my views are based on the quran alone, and i can produce the evidence to back them up, God willing, to the best of my ability.
i dnt like talking personal things, and i never did it.... i can understand when people sometimes get answeless they show their inner feelings what you just show... but it dosent matter.. i will not mind it.. coming back to topic
what you are saying = contradiction again....
in the light of God alone law..
now equation is like this contradiction vs contradiction vs contradiction... !
i have a question from you can you provide a reference from quran doing masturbution consider as a sin ? if no then its mean multiply contradiction by 4
peace and stay happy...
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i dnt like talking personal things, and i never did it.... i can understand when people sometimes get answeless they show their inner feelings what you just show... but it dosent matter.. i will not mind it.. coming back to topic
what you are saying = contradiction again....
in the light of God alone law..
now equation is like this contradiction vs contradiction vs contradiction... !
i have a question from you can you provide a reference from quran doing masturbution consider as a sin ? if no then its mean multiply contradiction by 4
peace and stay happy...
peace.
if all you see are contradictions prehaps the contradiction is your own.
'do not follow the footsteps of satan'
'if i were to follow desires after the truth i would be misguided'
'you shall serve god alone'realy do you think masturbation in a toilet is following gods path?
peace, for you are your deeds and for me are mine, i no longer wish to discuss this, if you are justifying such, then i will not, and god will judge between us on the day of account.
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Tell MY servants to talk (to each other) in the best possible manner,
for the devil will always try to drive a wedge among them.
Surely, the devil is man's most ardent enemy.QURAN TESTAMENT 17/53
alhamdullilah, good reminder
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peace.
if all you see are contradictions prehaps the contradiction is your own.
'do not follow the footsteps of satan'
'if i were to follow desires after the truth i would be misguided'
'you shall serve god alone'realy do you think masturbation in a toilet is following gods path?
peace, for you are your deeds and for me are mine, i no longer wish to discuss this, if you are justifying such, then i will not, and god will judge between us on the day of account.
i will make long story short...
who authorised you to say masturbution is a sin?
then you said God gave you a taste of the results of your sin, He exposed your shame
blaming God instead of that boy who recorded his video...discussion here is about making video of a person privacy... its between God and masturbutor?
who gave you a license to claim a personal act as a sin ?
who gave you license of spreading lie against God, or blame a god in the act of video maker?now if you revise all this here is a contradiction..
and then i told you to provide a proof whether masturbution is sin you failed again?instead of focusing on masturbution subject for pondering is on video making and sharing on social media...
and there is a matter of somebody life in it, so you need to be polite thats what i told you but you did not focus on that point. how rude and dangerous is it.. what if he get hurt and take his life who is responsible you , your words, or God, or wrong approach of understanding..
anyway..
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Salaam/Peace,
I think it cannot be called a "Sin" because it is not specifically forbidden in QURAN TESTAMENT.
But perhaps, it may certainly be called a "Reckless Behavior," because every believer must absolutely take all precautions to protect his/her privacy
everywhere and also and especially in all public areas, restrooms, etc. in this Age.But to invade someone's privacy (whether in a home or in anywhere else) in order to humiliate him/her is absolutely a Dire Sin. (=49/11-12)
What-To-Do,
you should never bother yourself with it, after this, dear Brother, just trust in AL-LAH, with all your heart,
wholeheartedly repent and return to HIM,
and you are already totally Clean and Innocent, in HIS Eyes, and in the eyes of all HIS believing Servants,
always and forever, inshaAL-LAH.May AL-LAH forgive all of our transgressions and sins and mistakes in our past and may admit us into HIS Heaven,
as eternal friends, brothers and sisters,
in such a Most GRACIOUS & Most BENEVOLENT Manner here(=Quran Testament 25/70-71)
always and forever, inshaAL-LAH.
Remain in peace/salaam.