Gods signs made evident. share your experience.
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Peace be with you all,
i thought i would ask, what are some profound signs from the quran that God has made manifest to you? I can think of so many, but today, this one was fulfilled so clearly..
Then what is with them, they are turning away from the reminder
like that they were stampeding donkeys
fleeing from a lion7449-51
today i was talking to a lovely older lady, and we were having some great chats about the grace of God, and His glory, and by Gods will, i shared some Quran with her about jesus, that God had guided me to this morning, after seeing her the first time, and im sure she trusted in God, We seemed in agreement about everything, she said she recently found a seventh day adventist church, anyway after a long conversation, we parted ways, and then she called me back, and waved me down, she had found a group of christians preaching on the street corner, and she said 'listen to him, he is a follower of the LORD, he will share with you some truth' or something, and excused herself, so i greeted the christians, and asked what they were doing, they said they had taken a break from work to preach the gospel, so i enquired which gospel to acertain if they were believers, and they replied with the great falsehood about jesus, so i asked them what is the first commandment, which sadly, many of the christians i talk to dont even know! he didnt, so i explained it, and the second commandment of the 'ten commandments', and that only God could save us, and asked if i could share some truth, at which point they literaly fled! literaly theese preachers ran off down the road. i was shocked realy, i called out after them a warning, but they hastened even faster...
i must admit, i have hardly experienced such a profound example of the quran becoming self evident.. and shocking.. literaly it was as if they were running away from a lion, just because i was reminding them..
what are your experience, of Gods will, in making evident His signs from the Quran or the previous books? i would love to hear them, i know there are so many, but maybe if you have had a similar experience when something has manifested in such an exact and perfect way like i felt this had?
peace be with you all, and the mercy of God
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Salaam/Peace be upon you, Timotheus,
when talking to the People of the Scripture (=Jews and Christians)
we should always bear in mind and wholeheartedly follow the Commandments of AL-LAH unto us,
that we may succeed and --(whether they accept Islam, or not, at the end of our conversation)--
ultimately have a good and amicable relationship with them here,
by the Commandment of AL-LAH unto us here=======================
46- Do not argue with the People of the Scripture (=Jews, Christians) except in the nicest (possible manner) - except those
who have acted-unjustly (=i.e. in total hostile and physically-attacking mode against you),
and say"We believe in what was revealed to us and (what was) revealed to you,
and our God and your God is ONE; and to HIM we have surrendered."QURAN TESTAMENT 29/46
64- Say "O people of the Scripture (=Jews and Christians), let us come to a common Understanding/Word
between us and youThat we serve none except AL-LAH, and that we do not set up any partners with HIM, at all,
and that none of us takes each other as Lords besides AL-LAH."
If they turn away, then say "Bear witness that we have surrendered (to HIM Alone, as our One and Only LORD).QURAN TESTAMENT 3/64
8- AL-LAH does not prohibit you from those who do not physically-fight you because of your Religion,
nor drive you out of your homes,
that --(whether they accept Islam, or not, at the end of our conversation)-- you always deal kindly and equitably
with them. For AL-LAH loves the equitable.QURAN TESTAMENT 60/8
May AL-LAH bless you, and all of us, Greatly. (=25/73-76)
Remain in peace/salaam. -
Salaam/Peace be upon you, Timotheus,
when talking to the People of the Scripture (=Jews and Christians)
we should always bear in mind and wholeheartedly follow the Commandments of AL-LAH unto us,
that we may succeed and --(whether they accept Islam, or not, at the end of our conversation)--
ultimately have a good and amicable relationship with them here,
by the Commandment of AL-LAH unto us here=======================
46- Do not argue with the People of the Scripture (=Jews, Christians) except in the nicest (possible manner) - except those
who have acted-unjustly (=i.e. in total hostile and physically-attacking mode against you),
and say"We believe in what was revealed to us and (what was) revealed to you,
and our God and your God is ONE; and to HIM we have surrendered."QURAN TESTAMENT 29/46
64- Say "O people of the Scripture (=Jews and Christians), let us come to a common Understanding/Word
between us and youThat we serve none except AL-LAH, and that we do not set up any partners with HIM, at all,
and that none of us takes each other as Lords besides AL-LAH."
If they turn away, then say "Bear witness that we have surrendered (to HIM Alone, as our One and Only LORD).QURAN TESTAMENT 3/64
8- AL-LAH does not prohibit you from those who do not physically-fight you because of your Religion,
nor drive you out of your homes,
that --(whether they accept Islam, or not, at the end of our conversation)-- you always deal kindly and equitably
with them. For AL-LAH loves the equitable.QURAN TESTAMENT 60/8
May AL-LAH bless you, and all of us, Greatly. (=25/73-76)
Remain in peace/salaam.Peace be with you brother, and may God bless you abundantly, and to all those who trust in Him
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that is literaly what the quran says, which i interpret, to the best of my ability as
and do not argue with the people of the book except with that which is best, except those who have wronged from them, and say 'we have trusted with what has been sent down to us and has been sent down to you, and our god and your god is one, and to Him we are ones who are in acceptace.
there is no "(=i.e. in total hostile and physically-attacking mode against you)" if you want a definition of what DHalamuu is, then get it from the Quran. the greatest wrongdoing is to preach a great blasphemy and not even be open to hearing the truth, I did indeed 'argue' with what is best, The Quran, well, in practise, the words i acctualy reminded them of are in their own book they were holding in their hands! however they barely gave me a chance as they ran away when i started to tell them their own commandments..
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Say O people of the book, come to a equitable word between us and between you, that we not serve except GOD, and we not assosciate partners with Him anything, and that we not take one another of us as lords of others to GOD, then if they have turned away, then say we witness in that we are ones who are in acceptance.608
GOD does not forbid you from those who do not fight you in the Bond, and do not send you forth from your dwellings that you are good with them, and you are just to them. indeed GOD loves the just onesagain there is no--(whether they accept Islam, or not, at the end of our conversation)-- in this verse, it is what it is, so please stop adding your own desires into the quran!
an interpretation is an interpretation, but brackets have no place in the quran.
and this verse is actualy talking about physicaly fighting, or attacking, killing, in my understanding, and again, i was more than equitable, in fact i spoke to them justly, even while they were mocking me and calling me a liar, and being arrogant to me.
and in all of those verses, i believe i obeyed them to the best of my ability, and all that i know from the quran. indeed the quran is my guidance, and thank GOD, that He has revealed such wonderful guidance, because before that i was far astray.
indeed i did not even have the chance to share any of the Quran with them, as i reminded them of the first and second commandment, and i asked them if i could share some truth with them, at which point they ran away!!
is there something i have transgressed with? is it my fault that people are adverse the the reminders of their Lord? indeed it is not me that is transgressing, rather theese false preachers who are out there actively seeking to corrupt the earth and the people of it, they are the transgressors!
is there something wrong with striving for our LORD? for striving for truth and justice? indeed it is our duty to not sit back and let the earth be corrupted but to strive in the cause of GOD, many of the people of the book enjoy the oppurtunity to discuss, some of them arrogantly revel in it, some like the lady i met, GOD bless her, were more then willing to hear the message, and to remember her LORD.
I am not one to sit around and watch, i wish to strive in the cause of my LORD, because, it is for my own good, i do not wish to turn away from my LORDs command to do so, as when i do, it greives my soul for some time, so i have learnt, that when GOD instructs us to remind the people of the book, that we are to do so, then, prehaps I have earned something good for my soul, and if God has willed, they may take heed, otherwise, then the retribution of GOD is justified upon them, because they were warned, they heard the truth, and denied it.
as GOD informs us in the quran, they are not all the same, as are those here, our works are various.
I will not stand by and watch. GOD commands us to strive in His cause, and if we do not we face the consequences, you should be going out and preaching theese verses to those who kill innocents, and oppress people and preach falsehood in the name of God, not the one who keeps them dear in his heart, and tries at least, albiet ineviatable with fault, to humbly share the truth, and to strive for my LORD with all due striving, i do my best brother, let us all do our best.
Peace be with you, and the mercy of GOD.
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Your experience is so familiar to me. But that is not all. What actually alerted me that my Sunni religion was wrong was because of things like this
"And can you tell me, why wasn't Quran revealed to prophet muhammad (pbuh) in single day when u say that the duty of the messenger (pbuh) was ONLY to give us the the Quran and nothing else. But it was reveled in a period of 22 years , in stages so that prophet would teach how and when to implement the verses." from http//ahmadoaisfordummies.blogspot.com/2010/03/debate-with-quranist.html
That is what a sectarian said. Now watch
And those who disbelieve say, "Why was the Qur'an not revealed to him all at once?" Thus that We may strengthen thereby your heart. And We have spaced it distinctly. 2532
Of course, free-minds also has some sect v Muslim debates in which same kind of signs are seen.
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today i was talking to a lovely older lady, and we were having some great chats about the grace of God, and His glory, and by Gods will, i shared some Quran with her about jesus, that God had guided me to this morning, after seeing her the first time, and im sure she trusted in God, We seemed in agreement about everything, she said she recently found a seventh day adventist church, anyway after a long conversation, we parted ways, and then she called me back, and waved me down, she had found a group of christians preaching on the street corner, and she said 'listen to him, he is a follower of the LORD, he will share with you some truth' or something, and excused herself, so i greeted the christians, and asked what they were doing, they said they had taken a break from work to preach the gospel, so i enquired which gospel to acertain if they were believers, and they replied with the great falsehood about jesus, so i asked them what is the first commandment, which sadly, many of the christians i talk to dont even know! he didnt, so i explained it, and the second commandment of the 'ten commandments', and that only God could save us, and asked if i could share some truth, at which point they literaly fled! literaly theese preachers ran off down the road. i was shocked realy, i called out after them a warning, but they hastened even faster...
Try to asked these to Sunni...
- What is the #1 requirement to become a Muslim? (They will answer with Shahada)
- Is our beloved prophet Muhammad Sallalaahu Allaihi Wassalam a Muslim? (They will answer yes, and might add he's the best among Muslim)
- What do you think his Shahada sounds like? (La illaha illa Allah Muhamadd... hmmm......)
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there is no "(=i.e. in total hostile and physically-attacking mode against you)"
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again there is no--(whether they accept Islam, or not, at the end of our conversation)-- in this verse, it is what it is,
so please stop adding your own desires into the quran!an interpretation is an interpretation, but brackets have no place in the quran.
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Salaam/Peace be upon you, Timotheus,
I do not add my own desires into those brackets, dear Brother,
they are only referral to other related Verses in the whole QURAN TESTAMENT,
because I strongly believewe can understand all Issues, clearly and perfectly, in QURAN TESTAMENT
when/if we reflect upon them in the whole Context of QURAN TESTAMENT.But yes, I have made a big mistake by not clearly indicating to which Verses I was referring
when I put those critical Information into those brackets, above,
may AL-LAH bless you, Greatly, for letting me clearly see my big mistake.So now, I want to correct it, immediately, by properly stating them,
with the clear referrals (to other closely related Verses in the whole QURAN TESTAMENT)
therein, now clearly thus=======================
46- Do not argue with the People of the Scripture (=Jews, Christians) except in the nicest (possible manner) - except those
who have acted-unjustly (=i.e. in total hostile and physically-attacking mode against you =60/9 & 22/72),
and say"We believe in what was revealed to us and (what was) revealed to you,
and our God and your God is ONE; and to HIM we have surrendered."QURAN TESTAMENT 29/46
64- Say "O people of the Scripture (=Jews and Christians), let us come to a common Understanding/Word
between us and youThat we serve none except AL-LAH, and that we do not set up any partners with HIM, at all,
and that none of us takes each other as Lords besides AL-LAH."
If they turn away, then say "Bear witness that we have surrendered (to HIM Alone, as our One and Only LORD).QURAN TESTAMENT 3/64
8- AL-LAH does not prohibit you from those who do not physically-fight you because of your Religion,
and do not drive you out of your homes,
that --(whether they accept Islam, or not, at the end of our conversation =2/256 & 10/99)--
you shall always deal kindly and equitably with them. For AL-LAH loves the equitable.QURAN TESTAMENT 60/8
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is there something i have transgressed with?
is it my fault that people are adverse to the reminders of their Lord?............
No, brother, you have actually done a Great Service to our Lord AL-LAH
by reminding them with all of those most Essential and important Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT above,
may AL-LAH bless you, Abundantly, for this (=50/45);and thereafter, if you also remember and absolutely do this (=10/99 & 2/256 & 60/8),
your Great Service to our Lord AL-LAH may thus be accomplished in Perfect manner, inshaAL-LAH.Remain in peace/salaam.
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@ timotheos
same happened to me when i ask questions from secterians,, they run away some time backk in 10 years i give some explainations to one of my frds they was literally about to kill me lol,,, thanx God i get saved becoz they were my frds... sometimes its dangerous , be careful ,
the sects agenda is just to copy cat sect rules...
the real muslim will look all over even if he doubt about the verses of quran i mean interpretation he/she will have a careful look and untill not investigate he will not beleive in it... and when somebody do that a hidden help from God approaches and lead a beleiver to proper understanding...