wealth, money importance and thoughtful provoking..
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i was thinking to write a thread about this particular issue that is now a days very much injected in ourselves in the form of every day life cycle... what is called money
from our childhood , we get this thing face to face , in different forms.. a kid need money to buy sweets from shop, traditionally money plays an vital role in our lives.. from very start to the very end.. lets have a brief look in it...by summarising some key points here which are already known by all of you...
1 traditionally if you want to please a kid give him money ,
2 buying food cloth, or anything requred money
3 studing , cost a lot of money in the shape of fee,transport,material
4 getting married required lot of money
5 after married money required for spending life
6 the most of the fights in dometic household happen due to shortage of money
7 even when we died for doing funeral it cost moneywhen this factor is very important why every body leave it behind in the religious or moral discussion that money is fitna, do not chase money , do not get trap in material based things... do not greed etc etc..
people who are struggling for money knows the value of money very well.. nobody will get married with a boy who is honest nice but just have lack of money or low income, on the other hand a drinker gambler adulterer get married with anybody whoever he wishes if he got a handsome bank account , even he look like a crap in the personality.. its like a qualification to be a rich ..
after all my original question is.. what policy should we apply for sorting out this thing..called money.. why its become so much important and on other hand its continiously critised by moral and religious teaching.. we are doing double standard here.. every body poor rich, black white, student teacher, religious scholar or don of street they need it and they have a greed for this thing from their starting to ending..
on one hand we are advised to not get trap of money on other hand we advised to b successful and successful is the one who have money.. is it not confusing at all...
from last 32 years i got lot of chances to earn money illegally ,, my first job was the verifcation of securing loans if i wished i could banged the bank up with millions in a year but i controled myself .. question is the hardworking money i hear from everybody its hard to even survive in it.. but the rich people who are around us they do a fraud or dodgy money... lot of times people push me for quick money i refused all the times.. seems to me the only way of becoming rich or qualified to earn money whatever means...
as far i concern i rather die poor instead of becoming rich by annoying God and rules of God... but 90 % people just earn it without thinking it right or wrong.. i m just confused about all this..
is it our society that push a person in to this trap or we wrong ourself up.. or we tired of this test.. although God said it already we will definately test you through money...
Although its my story is just to represent the questions in easy mode i hope lot of the people have same thinking about this money issue so this thread is not to tell my story but for having a views from different members as i know people have similar stories like me..
peace
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Imran I believe money is not EVIL
Just like milk is not bad for you, unless you drink it more than your body needs. If all the humanity were sincere all the money in the world would be enough for everyone to have good means of living.
It's a constant war between Mind vs Matter
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It's a constant war between Mind vs Matter
my brother its not a war, if the money earn by mind there you will see no poor who is intelligent... and all dumb people get died due to lack of money...
but what we see the intelligent people like professor of schools, engineers, doctors , are less rich than exporters who dnt even know abcd ,
this thing is really very strange understanding the cysle of money is not really easy...how hard you try to earn money if God dnt will you cannot be rich...
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Peace Imran,
In the beginning there was no concept of money. People used to live in harmony and shared equally with others. Everything belonging to one person belonged to everybody equally and everyone performed their services for everyone else in a community for free and everyone benefitted equally. Then some negative higher density extraterrestrial entities (you can call them shayateen if you like) came to Earth and introduced humans to the concept of money, and the concept of selfishness (my things, your things) in order to make them walk the negative path of service to self, and to control and manipulate them and enslave them by using money as one of their tools. Since then the human race has been enslaved, controlled and manipulated by the secret hidden "powers to be" who themselves are enslaved by the negative 5th density reptilian entities. Everyone is asleep and content in their slavery and the masses are making no effort to break the chains. This inevitably causes an overwhelming majority to suffer.
Must watch videos about money
https//m.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvKjsIxT_8 (Money as Debt)
https//m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vl73e850JY (The Money Masters)Peace
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peace brother truthseeker...
my brother i also watch ancient aliens a lot about continously two years it was on my tivo recording box... still i see it.. but all of the things are not really true... still there are some mysteries ...
but i think in the very early history of people the money was one of the test... what i actually wanted to ask is what should be the solution for this... do we accept money as necessity or we will ignore its importance and put ourself miserable infront of world...?
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Peace Imran,
I think the solution is to accept the fiat system while slowly working towards a self sustained community in which everyone in the community offers their service free to other members and all resources are available and accessible for free to everyone, and then slowly break free of the fiat system. There are vast areas of uninhabited land which can be purchased for cheap and then a group of people can build such a self sustained community. If everyone starts doing this and forming such communities, we will easily be able to break the chains of slavery by the elite "powers to be".
Please watch those videos to understand the corrupt fiat system and how the elite have enslaved us through this corrupt system. Those videos have nothing to do with ancient aliens.
Peace
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peace truthseeker,
thats what we call gravity of money... the one who controls it never let you do it , they always wanted you to struggle , and in the end the only solution come out in the shape of wars... where they encounter eachother by killing stealing ,,, and capturing.. throughout the history the wars solved lot of problems, what i see is the solution for this is war but again we should not go into wars.. or participate in it... as per book of guidence apart from self defence... again we feel ourself in the same lock .. its really a big test what we call money...
yeh i look these trype of videos about how these greedy captalist generates the money one of the system is the modern banking system that make us slaves of paper currency ... infact our hardworking service is so cheap that we are selling it in worth of some papers...
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after all my original question is..
what policy should we apply for sorting out this thing..called money..
why its become so much important and on other hand its continiously critised by moral and religious teaching.. we are doing double standard here..
every body poor rich, black white, student teacher, religious scholar or don of street they need it and they have a greed for this thing from their starting to ending..on one hand we are advised to not get trap of money on other hand we advised to b successful and successful is the one who have money..
is it not confusing at all...
.............peace
Salaam/Peace Imran,
in my Understanding, to eagerly work for (legitimately/lawfully) acquiring "money/properties"
is absolutely a Good/Best Deed, in the Sight of AL-LAH,
when/if we do This with it,
if we can (legitimately/lawfully) acquire it==============================
261- The example of those who spend their money/goods in the Cause of AL-LAH --(in the form of Zakat-Charity here 8/41
or/and in the form of Sadaqa-Charity here 9/60 & 2/271-274)--
is like a Seed that sprouts forth seven pods, in each pod there is a hundred Seeds;
and AL-LAH may multiply (the Rewards even much more than this, even into such a limitless measure therein =40/40) for whoever wishes (it);
for AL-LAH is Encompassing, Knowledgeable.QURAN TESTAMENT 2/261
274- Those who spend their money/goods in the night and in the day, secretly and openly,
--(in the form of Zakat-Charity here 8/41 or/and in the form of Sadaqa-Charity here 9/60 & 2/271-274)--
they will have their (Abundant & Limitless) Reward with their LORD (=2/261 & 40/40), there is no fear over them and they will never grieve!QURAN TESTAMENT 2/274
26- And give the close relative-friend his/her due, and the poor, and the wayfarer; but do not squander (your money/goods)
with (utter) squandering --(by exceeding the limits way beyond that which is Most Equitably and Most Adequately setfor that Zakat-Charity here 8/41
or/and
for that Sadaqa-Charity here 9/60 = 2/219)--27- (Because) those squanderers (may ultimately) become brothers/sisters to the satans, and the Satan (=i.e. the Leader of all of those
human and jinn satans here =6/112-113) (thus) became ungrateful to his LORD.28- Even if you have to turn away from them (=i.e. that close relative-friend, and the poor, and the wayfarer above) because you are (in a situation
in which yourself) are seeking a Mercy from your LORD which you hope/wait (receiving) it, then say to them a considerate/gentle saying.29- And do not make your hand stingy by holding it to your neck, nor shall you lay it fully open (scattering away) --(by exceeding the limits
way beyond that which is Most Equitably and Most Adequately setfor that Zakat-Charity here 8/41
or/and
for that Sadaqa-Charity here 9/60 = 2/219)--lest you end up --(for being such an extravagant scatterer)-- utterly-blamed and deeply-sorry.
QURAN TESTAMENT 17/26-27-28-29
77- And seek with all (money/goods) bestowed upon you by AL-LAH the abode of the Hereafter,
--(by rightfully and wholeheartedly giving our Zakat-Charity here 8/41 or/and our Sadaqa-Charity
here 9/60 = 2/219 first of all)--and do not forget your Share in this World (=i.e. we may spend the rest of our money/goods for every legitimate and lawful blessings
of this World, for ourselves and our family, as we please =7/32 & ........),and be nice and compassionate (to all people) as AL-LAH has been Nice and Compassionate to you.
And do not seek corruption in the land (by destroying the crops and the human-lives therein =2/205).
For AL-LAH does Never love (such) corrupters.QURAN TESTAMENT 28/77
Remain in peace/salaam.