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Why everyone wants to go to Heaven, But no one really wants to die?

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    LastDay3
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    Peace to everyone
    ...............

    Shouldn't we try to move on onto our destination and leave this temporary station as fast as possible?
    If our ultimate reason for being here is to return to God, why than we even care about Earthly gains
    ( Riches, Fame, Children, Power, ) ?

    If God tells us straight up, that Your world is an illusion and vanity. Shouldn't we all crave for Death?
    As I know it's the only way out of here to God. Is there any other way out?

    Peace

    Salaam-Peace dear brother/friend Hansolo,

    I strongly believe,
    essentially for this Reason, we should absolutely long for/wish/desire to live here

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    37- And it is not your "properties/money" and your "children" that will bring you closer to Us,
    except those who believe and do Good Work
    --(with their "properties/money" here =2/261-262, 274 and their "children" here =52/21-23

    they will receive Multiple Recompense for their such (Good) Work (above),
    and they will reside in the High-Dwellings in total Security/Serenity.

    (=QURAN TESTAMENT 34/37)

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    62- For the Allies of AL-LAH, there is no fear over them and they will not grieve.

    63- Those who have believed and are Conscious (of HIM).

    64- For them are "Glad-Tidings" in the Worldly Life and in the Hereafter.
    There is no changing the Words of AL-LAH.
    Such is the Great Triumph.

    (=QURAN TESTAMENT 10/62-64)

    So we can thus absolutely receive this "Glad-Tidings" and absolutely attain this Great Triumph above
    and can start to live in such a Happy and Joyful state of mind, (=10/62-63-64)

    before we die, here in this Worldly Life, and also after we die, in the Hereafter, forever, inshaAL-LAH.

    welcome sun sun welcome

    Remain in peace/salaam.

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      Man_of_Faith
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      Peace to everyone

      Brothers and Sisters. These days I have this question in my mind that I cannot really find an answer to. Decided to ask here for your opinions. Why is, if the life in the hereafter is better and infinite, why do most of humans try to prolong their temporary Earthly life's with any means necessary?

      Shouldn't we try to move on onto our destination and leave this temporary station as fast as possible?
      If our ultimate reason for being here is to return to God, why than we even care about Earthly gains
      ( Riches, Fame, Children, Power, ) ?

      If God tells us straight up, that Your world is an illusion and vanity. Shouldn't we all crave for Death? As I know it's the only way out of here to God. Is there any other way out?

      Peace

      You could crave to leave this Earth, but better make sure you are ready for it and have developed sufficiently. Personally I do await my passover, but I also do know I got things to do before I do so. We are here on Earth as a trial and in order to succeed we also need to pass it.

      If you are successful you could even become a manager (angel) while still alive in this world except that you have to live with the attachment to a body for a time.

      If you are ready; wealth, fame and fame is not of your concern. Children is however part of the instruction since it is what keeps more spirit seeds to get a new body for the test or it is unfair to all of those subjects that still not fund a way out. However, biological children is not a dire necessity and if you foster a generation of people to aid them help themselves out then you did a greater service than merely reproducing children.

      Be well,
      Amenuel

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        hansolo
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        Peace Amenuel

        What did you mean by "If you are ready; wealth and fame is not of your concern."
        ?

        Peace

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          imrankhawaja
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          i still dnt understand this wealth science honestly sometimes i take it very harashly, ... s0metimes i think its a good reminder for me to open a new thread what wealth is all about there i will share my experience... and thinking about this particular subject that confuse us all inside out..

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            Man_of_Faith
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            It means what I wrote, i.e. it should not be of any focus in your life or you have an improper attitude.

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              hansolo
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              What about Salomon, Amenuel?
              Didn't he ask God for riches so big that no one will ever have ?

              Peace

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                imrankhawaja
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                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608795.0

                i created this thread about money and wealth we can discuss it there if somebody interested in it..

                peace

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                  What about Salomon, Amenuel?
                  Didn't he ask God for riches so big that no one will ever have ?

                  Peace

                  He did not ask for riches explicitly. He was a king and a successful one. While he might have been making his empire rich he was also lifting his entire nation. What he had in his possession as an emperor was his nation's. He was not a typical dictator. And serving the cause of Allah was more important to him than hoarding wealth. While other nations' kings looted and devastated all around them Solomon urged everyone to stop.

                  Solomon's empire's wealth was built around production and commerce as well as gifts because other nations were impressed by his success and he had many allies. Solomon dealt primarily in diplomacy and the sword was only a solution to establish order and justice in oppressive states.

                  Be well
                  Amenuel

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                    Comrox
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                    Peace all,

                    Peace to everyone

                    Brothers and Sisters. These days I have this question in my mind that I cannot really find an answer to. Decided to ask here for your opinions. Why is, if the life in the hereafter is better and infinite, why do most of humans try to prolong their temporary Earthly life's with any means necessary?

                    Shouldn't we try to move on onto our destination and leave this temporary station as fast as possible?

                    Naturally people seem to have a fear of the unknown. Death is an unknown for many. Even with belief, I still consider death to be an unknown, because I lack the experience. There are certain truths and tasks which we can be told, and others we must discover for ourselves. No matter how much we know (or think we know), all our knowledge - or lack thereof - may still not help us or prepare us for the experience.

                    If our ultimate reason for being here is to return to God, why than we even care about Earthly gains
                    ( Riches, Fame, Children, Power, ) ?

                    Because this is what we know. This world, and all that is pleasurable in it, is all that we are familiar with.

                    If God tells us straight up, that Your world is an illusion and vanity. Shouldn't we all crave for Death? As I know it's the only way out of here to God. Is there any other way out?

                    I don't crave death. I actually am fearful of it, because once again unknown. But I am still more tolerant of death than I once was. If am supposed to die tomorrow, then I will have no choice but to embrace it like an old friend.

                    "Craving for death" sounds suicidal. I like this life. I don't want to leave here. I am not ready yet as I do believe we all have a purpose here still. Surely there is something for us to learn here as He has put us on this planet.

                    Death will have a lot to offer I'm sure. But life does too.

                    I don't mind being dead. I don't want to suffer. I live to help.

                    My question to you is, what believer would not want to go to heaven?

                    peace

                    Frankly, through my limited perception (which of course relies heavily on the concept of time), the idea of an eternal anything makes me pretty uneasy. I have no desire to exist forever while maintaining conscious awareness of my existence throughout.

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      death is a dish best serve chilled...lol

                      nobody including me is ready for sudden death... it same like a human mind always want to wind up things before he finish or start something... from our innerself we feel that when we go in the presence of higher being.. we must b ready to face him... with deeds what we required for us to please GOD..

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