QURAN 33:72 and QURAN 2:30 - Successive Authority and The Offer
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Peace Sisters and Brothers
Take a look at these verses from the Quran, please.
QURAN 3372 - Sahih International Indeed, we offered the Trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, and they declined to bear it and feared it; but man bear it. Indeed, he was unjust and ignorant.
QURAN 230 - Sahih International And , when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."
So Im confused here. As I understand In 230 God tells us that he creates man as a Succesive Authority on Earth. So the main purpose of man being here is to be a Succesive Authority of God.
And yet in 3372 God says that man took the authority because he was unjust and ignorant.But how could man refuse to God? There is only one right option and it is to OBEY The God. Especially when YOU were created for this mission.
Or is this offer not related to the condition of men being here on earth ? Than another question arises. What was THAT offer, which man accepted and done wrong by accepting it ?
Of course GOD knows the Best
Peace
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i think 2 30 happen after 33 72...
then everything you will understand clearly... 33 72 happen when God offer a trust to humankind... the just took it becoz they were ignorant(less knowledgeable)
so God decided to give humankind a trust.. and perfected them in stages... the starting process of everthing... again angels get confuse coz they know this creation will wrong themselves up due to the authority...but God tell angels you dnt know what i know... that how events begins
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Peace Sisters and Brothers
Take a look at these verses from the Quran, please.
QURAN 3372 - Sahih International Indeed, we offered the Trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, and they declined to bear it and feared it;
but man bear it. Indeed, he was unjust and ignorant.QURAN 230 - Sahih International And , when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority."
They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?"
Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."So Im confused here. As I understand In 230 God tells us that he creates man as a Succesive Authority on Earth.
So the main purpose of man being here is to be a Succesive Authority of God.
And yet in 3372 God says that man took the authority because he was unjust and ignorant.But how could man refuse to God? There is only one right option and it is to OBEY The God. Especially when YOU were created for this mission.
Or is this offer not related to the condition of men being here on earth ? Than another question arises.
What was THAT offer, which man accepted and done wrong by accepting it ?Salaam/Peace Hansolo,
This is how I understand those most essential and important Verses above
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72- We have offered "the trust" (="al-Amanat"
unto the heavens and the earth, and the mountains, but they refused to bear it, and were fearful of it.
And human (rightfully) accepted it --(because human was granted by AL-LAH the sufficient understanding and capacity to rightfully accept it);
(but then by betraying it, as we witness it here in the Story of our ancestor Adam & Eve here =2/35-36)--
he became unjust, ignorant --(therein =2/35).27- O you who believe, so do not betray AL-LAH and the Messenger (=i.e. Quran),
and do not betray "your trust" (="Amanatikum" while you know (it,
as it has clearly been pointed out to us by our Lord AL-LAH in the above Verse).(QURAN TESTAMENT 33/72 = 8/27)
Therefore, I believe this Offer of "Trust" (="Amanat" unto Human
as clearly pointed out and explained to us by our Lord AL-LAH (=75/18-19)
in the above Verses, (8/27 = 33/72)
may have actually occurred just before the first Human becoming a Successor (=Khaleefa) by the Blessing of AL-LAH unto them therein. (=2/30-39)
(*So I totally agree with brother Imran in this respect above handshake)and then our ancestor Adam & Eve became unjust, ignorant (=thalimeen, jahileen)
by betraying it, as we witness it therein =2/35-36,
but then our Lord AL-LAH most Benevolently & most Mercifully forgave them therein, and gave all of us (=Humans) another chance,
by recommending unto all of us abovenever to betray it again, on this Earth, as we clearly witness it above
=QURAN TESTAMENT (33/72 = 8/27) = (2/35-36-37-38-39)!
But always and only our Lord AL-LAH Knows-Best. (34/49-50)
Remain in peace/salaam.
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(*So I totally agree with brother Imran in this respect above handshake
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sometimes i also think, the first of human betray the trust.. in the shape of eating from tree.. due to reason that there was no need of stealing, robbing murdering. raping... their test was just not to eat from that specific tree...
but with the passage of time the current trust of human being is far difficult if we analyse... we are sorrounded with lot of restrictions allover the world throughout the life...
our ansestor really give us a hard time by breaking the trust...lol just kidding may b it all was the plan of God ... becoz he already know it will happen like this...
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If I remember correctly RK had a very different point of view about this matter, but hey he called Satan "a temporary god" in 230 so that pretty much messed everything up. Apart from that, He said that it's not trust it's freedom of choice, and humans are ignorant because they chose to live on earth and decide on how they will live by worshiping God alone or doing whatever else and that everything else feared that.
This is not my opinion, but I'm just sharing some additional info that might help.
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there is only one permanent God . the lord of universe , rest is creation...
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after prophet muhammad there is no possibilty of any prophet, regarding messenger no one yet qualified as messenger rk is just a one in lot of them who claimed messengership but their reasoning become their own neck trap...lol
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Peace everyone,
Please see the following article by Dr. Ayman about what the "trust" in 3372 is according to his understanding
http//www.free-minds.org/Old/articles/gods_system/thetrust.htm
Peace