How to find the Qibla direction?
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Refreshing the proper posture to pray towards Mecca from that point
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What is shown on these images is that we're not living on a globe, the Earth is flat. If we think about ayats we'll come to the same knowledge with Allah's Help.
There were many tools to find Kibla (Mecca), but they're distroyed or we were told that they are useless. There were real scientists who were talking about 1000+ different usages of astrolabe. We have to know that NASA is still using astrolabe for measurements and they're doing thousands of measurements with it yearly. We can see astrolabe only on a picture or in some museum. This is why all the data we're getting from "scientists" are not correct. Take any and use any model/formula... you won't get the expected result.Btw, kawkab, the Moon and the Sun are not kibla, but you're right Ibrahim as wasn't pointing at them when he was saying "haza Rabbi" and, you're right again, it's about salat.
Allah's bless and salam.
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What is shown on these images is that we're not living on a globe, the Earth is flat.
yeh earth is flat ... but i have a gift for you mr scientist...
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGPuEDyAsU8
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about qibla... God dnt require your directions. God require the niyaat(innerself) and loyalty ,
and one more thing , wherever you are God is with you, wherever you face , easts and wests belong to God..
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about qibla... God dnt require your directions. God require the niyaat(innerself) and loyalty ,
and one more thing , wherever you are God is with you, wherever you face , easts and wests belong to God..
Where have you found "easts and wests"? Is video you shared from the movie "Gravity"?
Yes, Allah is the light of the Heavens and the Earth and He's everywhere, but He is not contained in anything.
The Qibla is the direction to(wards) Masjid-ul-haram and we have to turn (point) our faces to it. For those who're standing in kiyam for salat the question is are your faces turned towards Masjid-ul-haram or the skies if you're on the globe, at the distance more then 50km from Mecca? And if you're on some 20.000 km from Mecca to which direction you'll turn your face?Allah's is Ash-Shaheed and His Words are the proof that the Earth is flat. If somebody believes in science besides Allah, then I call all Muslim astronomers for the proof that the Earth is flat. If anybody has other beliefs, please let me know...
I hope the humanity will be free soon and they'll know who enslaved them. I hope it'll be during this life, because both groups will get "double punishment".
Speaking about the punishment, there's "severest (biggest) punishment" mentioned in 88th surah (al-adhab-ul-akbar). For whom is this punishment?
Do they not then ponder how the clouds were formed;
And the heavens, how it was raised high;
And the mountains, how they were fixed;
And the earth, how it was spread out?
Remind them; you are surely a reminder.
You are not a warden over them,
Other than him who turns his back and denies,
In which case he will be punished by God with the severest punishment.
(8817-24, tr. Ahmed Ali)For whom? For those who turn their back and deny?
What? What they're warned and reminded about?
What is that? That the Earth is spreaded out and the mountains are fixed and the Skies are raised high and how clouds were formed.Who's creating clouds? Allah or something from the false science?
Are the Skies high ABOVE us or they're around us?
Are the mountains FIXED or they flow on some gigantic blocks?
Is the Earth spreaded flat or it's some magic ball?Nobody can say we're not warned and reminded about all of these, and for those who turn their backs and reject al-adhab-ul-akbar. May Allah swt protects us from this punishment and falsehood.
Allah's bless and salam.
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brother i dnt wish to argue on flat earth becoz lot of highly intelligent and scientists within last two years i enncounter in this forum who failed terribly in their claims... regarding flat earth.. if you are one of them with new id or a new believer of flat earth either ways i suggest you to read the old threads... and see how helpless they are in the end...
yeh its from movie gravity but gravity dnt exist isnt it? according to flat earthers... rotfl
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Where have you found "easts and wests"?
its a part of checking your intelligence , instead of writting both east and both west i write easts and wests , due to a reason... and i think i m successful in my experiment,,, i was already thinking something and i was thinking right... i was dead sure you will start from this statement while replying me... an old flat earther from new id ... lol
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No, my dear brother I'm a new user on this forum, since a few days ago. My name is Aladin, which comes from Arabic 'Ala'u-d-deeni, and I was born and I live in Serbian city Novi Pazar, with population about 125k and about 80% of Muslims. My father's last name is Deli, but since I've found that I should be named after a tribe and I don't know my origins, I've chosen Azra for my tribe name. So, this "nickname" I'm using here is also my real name. I'm 41yrs old btw by solar calendar.
I was lost even I thought I am a Muslim, till I got near 40 yr age by lunar calendar. I had a very difficult period of my life a few years before that and I stated to the people I thought I love that I can lie all, including myself, but I can't lie God. I see that moment as the last hope I had at that time and after that I realized that I created all the problems I've had. I prayed for forgivenesss and for protection and I was getting protection which I could measure. First, all bad persons from my life disappeared, then all for which I was connected disappeared also. When I was just a few days near 40 yr age by lunar calendar I've found, or better said I saw, for the first time (even I read it many times) a dua about 40 yrs. I wasn't able to memorize it whole, even it's short, but I momorized "Innee tubtu ilayke wa innee min-al-Muslimeen". I started to read these words often, with last 3 chapters of the Qur'an. Allah Knows best, but maybe these duas/ayats caused Allah's protection against bad situation I made to myself.
From that moment(s) I realized that all I followed was a falsehood, including "Islam" I was following, and I decided to give the rest of my days for learning (about) the truth.
Since my early age I was good in all sciences and my professions were a computer programmer (I wrote my first program in 1989) and a writer.I told you all of this to tell you that you don't know me and if you have anything to ask about me personally I'll answer. No need for any assumptions.
This topic, if you see its first post, is about the shape of the Earth and about Qibla, so talking about the shape of the Earth and the Qibla is expected here. When I saw images in the first post here for the first time I thought that somebody is talking against Islam. And it was against the "Islam" I knew at that time, but it's not against Islam at all.
I don't mind if anybody is following anything, I know how hard it is to discover that we're following falsehood. But, if we're following falsehood we can see that in this life or in the Hearafter. If we see it in Hereafter it'll be too late.
I wasn't joking about the movie "Gravity" at all. You probably know that Bani Israel were thinking they're looking at snakes, even Moosa a.s. was scared, and he had the knowledge about what he was looking at. What you can see in that video are "snakes", sihr much worse then ones from pharaoh's magicians. It's the part of Hollywood & Co. sihr, as the movie "Gravity".
I don't expect anybody to take my words, but I expect from the persons with mind to think about ayats which are about the Earth and the Qibla. If we reject (k-f-r) to think without adding anything in it (sh-r-k) or we lie (k-dh-b) we can't get the knowledge ('ilm), Allah swt won't help us. When we get the knowledge ('ilm) with His Help, we have to accepted it and be believers (mu'minoon) in it, with His 'izn.
I don't mind you or anybody else to believe in NASA or anything else, it's your choice, just if you're talking with me, please provide the source of your informations and informations you have as a proof, otherwise you'll be one of jokers. These are not topics for jokes (none is), but we all are chosing how to behave.
Btw, I really love you and all the believers (amongs any ummah), you're my brothers, but I love Allah swt and His Messenger more then us.
Allah's bless and salam.
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I wasn't joking about the movie "Gravity" at all. You probably know that Bani Israel were thinking they're looking at snakes, even Moosa a.s. was scared, and he had the knowledge about what he was looking at. What you can see in that video are "snakes", sihr much worse then ones from pharaoh's magicians. It's the part of Hollywood & Co. sihr, as the movie "Gravity".
yes brother you are right , magicians (flat earthers) spread a conspricy without any proof... and moses (round earther) show evidence of the lies of all magicians with proofs...
I don't mind you or anybody else to believe in NASA or anything else, it's your choice, just if you're talking with me, please provide the source of your informations and informations you have as a proof, otherwise you'll be one of jokers. These are not topics for jokes (none is), but we all are chosing how to behave.
jokes are part of life... its better to live life in jokes... here is another joke... hope you will like it...
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGP6Y0Pnhe4
by the way, if you are a scientist as you told me you better know its really dnt need to go to space for proving earth is flat or round... !
and if you need more jokes from my sides i already suggest you to look at previous threads of mine regarding flat earth.. some of your fellow flat earthers even become my enemy , i dnt know why... and shall i also tell u my story a little bit i never participate in forum before , i just start replying on the issue of flat earth... from two years i m asking some questions from them and all the time the represent basesless illogical theories without any evidence in hand.. thats why i called them conspricy theories otherwise the theory of darwin i did not call it consprisy coz its just a theory...
the questions i asked from them same i ask from you ... if you read my that post
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608757.msg393695#msg393695
Btw, I really love you and all the believers (amongs any ummah), you're my brothers, but I love Allah swt and His Messenger more then us.
Allah's bless and salam.
i love you too
God bless you too..you may have a look into it. its quite informative thread... in the end that person who start this thread run away and clearly blame me for leaving that forum... ..
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608640.0
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Yes, jokes are part of life, but there cannot be lies in jokes, or it'll be a lie as all others.
OK, I'll read these threads later cuz I have to get my kid from the school, in sha Allah. I hope there'll be something else then jokes, ie. some proof, which I haven't saw in this post from your side. Otherwise, I'll have to ignore you, because I'm sick of jokes with lies.I hope that we'll all know where's the Qibla later, with Allah's Help.
I'm not a scientist, I don't like names, except ones Allah swt called us. I said I was good in all sciences.Allah's bless and salam.
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lies or truth= theories
lies+ no proof = conspricy theories
jokes + truth+ proof+ scientific evidences= fact or proven fact...very simple defination...
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There's no truth after jokes, but you can continue as you like, it's your behaviour. Unless you change it, I'll take you as a jahil, so, if I forget to tell you "salam" sometimes I hope Allah swt will give me something better and you accept it as I told "salam" to you.
Allah's bless and salam.
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